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ShatteredElysium 05/20/19 9:20:03 PM #101:	Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this. Like he could have intervened at several points but none of it would result in him being King so he just passively let shit happen. Or in the instance of Jon/Dany he actively caused it to happen by the Aegon revelation. Like I'm sure that isn't the case but it's so much better of a narrative to think that Bran was playing the game all along and won. He even told Littlefinger Chaos is a ladder (which I know was just to mimic his own words). But if you look at it as Bran eliminating all his potential rivals by being extremely manipulative. He had Littlefinger taken out, he had the Night King taken out, he got Varys to turn on Dany and get killed, he got Dany taken out by Jon and then he got Jon's right to the throne stripped from him in the process. <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922159841] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this. Like he could have intervened at several points but none of it would result in him being King so he just passively let shit happen. Or in the instance of Jon/Dany he actively caused it to happen by the Aegon revelation. Like I'm sure that isn't the case but it's so much better of a narrative to think that Bran was playing the game all along and won. He even told Littlefinger Chaos is a ladder (which I know was just to mimic his own words). But if you look at it as Bran eliminating all his potential rivals by being extremely manipulative. He had Littlefinger taken out, he had the Night King taken out, he got Varys to turn on Dany and get killed, he got Dany taken out by Jon and then he got Jon's right to the throne stripped from him in the process.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 05/20/19 9:20:35 PM #102:	Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Jaime the Kingslayer? --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:922159864] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Jaime the Kingslayer?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 05/20/19 9:21:38 PM #103:	Bran orchestrating is so out of character but so is half the stuff this season --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:922159902] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Bran orchestrating is so out of character but so is half the stuff this season</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 05/20/19 9:29:39 PM #104:	ShatteredElysium posted... Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this. Like he could have intervened at several points but none of it would result in him being King so he just passively let shit happen. Or in the instance of Jon/Dany he actively caused it to happen by the Aegon revelation In this case, Bran let Jon make the call if he told Sansa and Arya or not. Is there a secret ending if Jon goes down the other dialogue tree? --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:922160234] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this. Like he could have intervened at several points but none of it would result in him being King so he just passively let shit happen. Or in the instance of Jon/Dany he actively caused it to happen by the Aegon revelation</quote> In this case, Bran let Jon make the call if he told Sansa and Arya or not. Is there a secret ending if Jon goes down the other dialogue tree?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 05/20/19 9:39:49 PM #105:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... ShatteredElysium posted... Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this. Like he could have intervened at several points but none of it would result in him being King so he just passively let shit happen. Or in the instance of Jon/Dany he actively caused it to happen by the Aegon revelation In this case, Bran let Jon make the call if he told Sansa and Arya or not. Is there a secret ending if Jon goes down the other dialogue tree? Jon: ... 1. Well, actually, I'm not a Stark... [Honest] 2. [Bluff] Oh, nevermind, it's nothing... [Deceptive] >2 [Bluff Failed] Arya: That's a lie. I know a lie when I see one. Sansa: Jon, we're not leaving until you tell us, we're family. Bran: ... Arya: Don't you trust us? Jon:... 1. Well, actually, I'm not a Stark... [Honest] --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:922160678] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this. Like he could have intervened at several points but none of it would result in him being King so he just passively let shit happen. Or in the instance of Jon/Dany he actively caused it to happen by the Aegon revelation</quote> In this case, Bran let Jon make the call if he told Sansa and Arya or not. Is there a secret ending if Jon goes down the other dialogue tree?</quote> Jon: ... 1. Well, actually, I'm not a Stark... [Honest] 2. [Bluff] Oh, nevermind, it's nothing... [Deceptive] >2 [Bluff Failed] Arya: That's a lie. I know a lie when I see one. Sansa: Jon, we're not leaving until you tell us, we're family. Bran: ... Arya: Don't you trust us? Jon:... 1. Well, actually, I'm not a Stark... [Honest]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 05/20/19 9:45:10 PM #106:	Oh yeah I know it's so unlikely but if we wanted to be extremely cynical about his motives (which is easier to do given his severe detachment from everything) then down the final stretch he orchestrated: * Littlefinger being killed when he had proven to be pretty masterful at the game and would have been hard to take out. May have proven meddlesome in the future if left alive (would he have gotten caught without Bran? Probably not) * He had the Night King taken out when virtually nobody else would have been able to * If we are being cynical we can then view him as getting Varys taken out who was always looking for the best interests of the realm and we are assuming less than good Bran here * He got Daenerys to turn mad and got her eliminated as a consequence of this. Like he could have not revealed the Aegon stuff so Varys/Tyrion/Jon never start doubting her. He could have prevented Missandei being captured and Rhaegal dying. * He had Jon's right to the throne stripped from him as a result of the above Now obviously taking out the Night King was in everyones interest but still worth noting the Night King wanted Bran more than anyone else seemingly and was his main (only?) threat to being killed. Nobody else was going to kill the cripple boy (I guess technically we don't know for sure the NK would have killed him or just taken him) The other stuff though, he could have prevented a lot of the shit that happened to Daenerys and likely prevented her crazy turn. Maybe she would have eventually turned mad anyway or maybe she would have been a shitty ruler and that's why he just let things happen. But we're being cynical of Bran here so we're assuming that rather than let things run naturally, he actively intervened with the Jon/Aegon revelation as it would lead to the elimination of the main 2 threats to the throne in Jon and Dany. <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922160897] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah I know it's so unlikely but if we wanted to be extremely cynical about his motives (which is easier to do given his severe detachment from everything) then down the final stretch he orchestrated: * Littlefinger being killed when he had proven to be pretty masterful at the game and would have been hard to take out. May have proven meddlesome in the future if left alive (would he have gotten caught without Bran? Probably not) * He had the Night King taken out when virtually nobody else would have been able to * If we are being cynical we can then view him as getting Varys taken out who was always looking for the best interests of the realm and we are assuming less than good Bran here * He got Daenerys to turn mad and got her eliminated as a consequence of this. Like he could have not revealed the Aegon stuff so Varys/Tyrion/Jon never start doubting her. He could have prevented Missandei being captured and Rhaegal dying. * He had Jon's right to the throne stripped from him as a result of the above Now obviously taking out the Night King was in everyones interest but still worth noting the Night King wanted Bran more than anyone else seemingly and was his main (only?) threat to being killed. Nobody else was going to kill the cripple boy (I guess technically we don't know for sure the NK would have killed him or just taken him) The other stuff though, he could have prevented a lot of the shit that happened to Daenerys and likely prevented her crazy turn. Maybe she would have eventually turned mad anyway or maybe she would have been a shitty ruler and that's why he just let things happen. But we're being cynical of Bran here so we're assuming that rather than let things run naturally, he actively intervened with the Jon/Aegon revelation as it would lead to the elimination of the main 2 threats to the throne in Jon and Dany.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 05/20/19 9:49:22 PM #107:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... ShatteredElysium posted... Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this. Like he could have intervened at several points but none of it would result in him being King so he just passively let shit happen. Or in the instance of Jon/Dany he actively caused it to happen by the Aegon revelation In this case, Bran let Jon make the call if he told Sansa and Arya or not. Is there a secret ending if Jon goes down the other dialogue tree? Well even still in that case Bran said out lout in front of them that it's Jon's choice. Meaning that even if Jon didn't say anything, they'd still know there was SOMETHING he could have said but didn't. So it was almost like a fake choice..... almost like Bran force the issues.... --- https://imgur.com/G17qCv1 <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:922161063] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this. Like he could have intervened at several points but none of it would result in him being King so he just passively let shit happen. Or in the instance of Jon/Dany he actively caused it to happen by the Aegon revelation</quote> In this case, Bran let Jon make the call if he told Sansa and Arya or not. Is there a secret ending if Jon goes down the other dialogue tree?</quote> Well even still in that case Bran said out lout in front of them that it's Jon's choice. Meaning that even if Jon didn't say anything, they'd still know there was SOMETHING he could have said but didn't. So it was almost like a fake choice..... almost like Bran force the issues....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 05/20/19 9:53:15 PM #108:	Oh added cherry on the top and if we want to assume ultimate dickhead Bran. If Daenerys doesn't go down the mad path and Rhaegal doesn't get killed / Missandei doesn't get captured then Cersei seems more likely to surrender in that scenario as she wasn't able to kill a dragon. If Cersei surrenders, Jaime doesn't go to Kings Landing to die with her. So if we are going with evil Bran, we could even add in the narrative that he went with the route that ensured Cersei and Jaime died too as revenge for crippling him. <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922161247] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Oh added cherry on the top and if we want to assume ultimate dickhead Bran. If Daenerys doesn't go down the mad path and Rhaegal doesn't get killed / Missandei doesn't get captured then Cersei seems more likely to surrender in that scenario as she wasn't able to kill a dragon. If Cersei surrenders, Jaime doesn't go to Kings Landing to die with her. So if we are going with evil Bran, we could even add in the narrative that he went with the route that ensured Cersei and Jaime died too as revenge for crippling him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 05/20/19 10:31:55 PM #109:	I like the evil Bran route, I wish there was a short "just as planned" montage to expand on it. I saw a comic where they picked him because just off-screen Bran had Drogon under his control, which explains why they all immediately voted for him, and even Grey Worm dropped the issue. He did say he was looking for Drogon, when by all rights they should just leave it alone. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:922163017] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>I like the evil Bran route, I wish there was a short "just as planned" montage to expand on it. I saw a comic where they picked him because just off-screen Bran had Drogon under his control, which explains why they all immediately voted for him, and even Grey Worm dropped the issue. He did say he was looking for Drogon, when by all rights they should just leave it alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calintares 05/20/19 11:42:41 PM #110:	My pet part of the "Evil Bran"-theory is that he was the one that caused Mad king Aerys to go mad. However, one thing I take exception to is that they introduce elective monarchy to Westeros and this is seen as a good thing that will appeal to the democratic sensibilities of modern-day viewers. It's the perfect system for the nobility to use to preserve the status quo where they hold all the power. They'll have a vested interest in electing weak kings who can't do anything about the nobility. If a king has children (which is very likely to happen with anyone after Bran) then that king will try to place his children on the throne, upsetting the nobles who if they have to chose one of the dead king's children will often deliberately go for the least competent of them in order to preserve their own power. Thus the system incentivises bad kings. historically realms with Elective monarchy had more internal strife and were weaker against external threats than kingdoms with primogeniture. A huge reason for Poland being invaded so many times is this exact system, same with Hungary. so after eight seasons of politicking, the grand finale is that they implement a worse succession system. --- ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. <cite>Calintares posted [p:922165737] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>My pet part of the "Evil Bran"-theory is that he was the one that caused Mad king Aerys to go mad. However, one thing I take exception to is that they introduce elective monarchy to Westeros and this is seen as a good thing that will appeal to the democratic sensibilities of modern-day viewers. It's the perfect system for the nobility to use to preserve the status quo where they hold all the power. They'll have a vested interest in electing weak kings who can't do anything about the nobility. If a king has children (which is very likely to happen with anyone after Bran) then that king will try to place his children on the throne, upsetting the nobles who if they have to chose one of the dead king's children will often deliberately go for the least competent of them in order to preserve their own power. Thus the system incentivises bad kings. historically realms with Elective monarchy had more internal strife and were weaker against external threats than kingdoms with primogeniture. A huge reason for Poland being invaded so many times is this exact system, same with Hungary. so after eight seasons of politicking, the grand finale is that they implement a worse succession system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 05/20/19 11:46:24 PM #111:	ShatteredElysium posted... Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this Why does it have to be headcanon? He said so in the show. Or at least, he knew what needed to happen and what roles everyone had, and he played his role and helped everything along. Maybe you could say that the fates engineered it, but he made MANY choices along the way to get to this point. The good way to look at it is that he wanted to get rid of all the conflicts in the world that were leading to war. It's basically Dany's plan to kill a bunch of people for the sake of the future, but actually stopping once he achieved his victory. His statement at the end - "seems we're missing a master of whisperers and a master of war" - was said so smugly/happily, implying he has no intention of filling those war-based roles, thus further solidifying peace. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:922165905] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, my head canon is absolutely that Bran engineered all of this</quote> Why does it have to be headcanon? He said so in the show. Or at least, he knew what needed to happen and what roles everyone had, and he played his role and helped everything along. Maybe you could say that the fates engineered it, but he made MANY choices along the way to get to this point. The good way to look at it is that he wanted to get rid of all the conflicts in the world that were leading to war. It's basically Dany's plan to kill a bunch of people for the sake of the future, but actually stopping once he achieved his victory. His statement at the end - "seems we're missing a master of whisperers and a master of war" - was said so smugly/happily, implying he has no intention of filling those war-based roles, thus further solidifying peace.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 05/20/19 11:53:11 PM #112:	Calintares posted... However, one thing I take exception to is that they introduce elective monarchy to Westeros and this is seen as a good thing that will appeal to the democratic sensibilities of modern-day viewers. This is a fanbase who wanted this group of 9 lords to decide to switch to democracy. As if kings have the ability to implement democracy. The politics in this show has always been a superficial flavor text that they keep trying to make relevant to real world politics and it just never works at all. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:922166177] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>Calintares posted...</cite> <quote>However, one thing I take exception to is that they introduce elective monarchy to Westeros and this is seen as a good thing that will appeal to the democratic sensibilities of modern-day viewers.</quote> This is a fanbase who wanted this group of 9 lords to decide to switch to democracy. As if kings have the ability to implement democracy. The politics in this show has always been a superficial flavor text that they keep trying to make relevant to real world politics and it just never works at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 05/21/19 12:21:26 AM #113:	Calintares posted... It's the perfect system for the nobility to use to preserve the status quo where they hold all the power. They'll have a vested interest in electing weak kings who can't do anything about the nobility. If a king has children (which is very likely to happen with anyone after Bran) then that king will try to place his children on the throne, upsetting the nobles who if they have to chose one of the dead king's children will often deliberately go for the least competent of them in order to preserve their own power. Thus the system incentivises bad kings. The Westerosi political system has been shown to already be run by the nobles (The Hand + council) who have to play damage control to the inane whims of whatever monarch is on the throne. Even if it's a worse political system, we're supposed to be rooting for the nobles so it's at the very least thematically consistent to present as a win. --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:922167038] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>Calintares posted...</cite> <quote>It's the perfect system for the nobility to use to preserve the status quo where they hold all the power. They'll have a vested interest in electing weak kings who can't do anything about the nobility. If a king has children (which is very likely to happen with anyone after Bran) then that king will try to place his children on the throne, upsetting the nobles who if they have to chose one of the dead king's children will often deliberately go for the least competent of them in order to preserve their own power. Thus the system incentivises bad kings.</quote> The Westerosi political system has been shown to already be run by the nobles (The Hand + council) who have to play damage control to the inane whims of whatever monarch is on the throne. Even if it's a worse political system, we're supposed to be rooting for the nobles so it's at the very least thematically consistent to present as a win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 05/21/19 1:45:03 AM #114:	I kinda wish if they were going for a troll pick for King that they had let Edmure do it and be a weak King easily manipulated by the true power behind the throne; Tyrion, Davos and the other most sensible characters alive. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:922169271] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>I kinda wish if they were going for a troll pick for King that they had let Edmure do it and be a weak King easily manipulated by the true power behind the throne; Tyrion, Davos and the other most sensible characters alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 05/21/19 2:02:27 AM #115:	It should also be noted that a theme of the series as a whole is that the general populace outside the north and the iron islands just dont give a shit. They have no interest in democracy they just want to be left the fuck alone. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:922169622] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>It should also be noted that a theme of the series as a whole is that the general populace outside the north and the iron islands just dont give a shit. They have no interest in democracy they just want to be left the fuck alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 05/21/19 2:10:08 AM #116:	Yara should have smugly been like All the lords meeting somewhere to vote on a new King? So this is a Kingsmoot? Like the Ironborn have done for thousands of years? <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:922169759] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Yara should have smugly been like All the lords meeting somewhere to vote on a new King? So this is a Kingsmoot? Like the Ironborn have done for thousands of years?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 05/21/19 4:23:35 AM #117:	This is pretty cool: https://twitter.com/ultrabrilliant/status/1130529632061710336 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:922171861] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>This is pretty cool: https://twitter.com/ultrabrilliant/status/1130529632061710336</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 05/21/19 4:30:13 AM #118:	Man i just know GRMM is gonna give people a happy Dany ending somehow when in fact his story is even more likely to end with mad queen Dany --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:922171942] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Man i just know GRMM is gonna give people a happy Dany ending somehow when in fact his story is even more likely to end with mad queen Dany</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Safer_777 05/21/19 11:47:43 AM #119:	I didn't thought this about the Dothraki. Thanks for answering that. So they settle in the Reach I guess. Also I liked the council idea to elect the King. Jon=Ended where he started but he is free to do whatever he wants. Who is going to keep tabs on him? Bran=Ultimate winner just by sitting in a chair! Now that is awesome. Gray Worm=I like that he decides to heat to that island with the rest of the army and just relax there. Maybe a spin off where they explore the other continents? Sansa=Queen and independant too. Now that is cool. Ayra=Explorer. Would be nice to see what it becomes of her. Tyrion=Hand so that means he will rule instead of Bran because well he doesn't care much. The others end nice too. The alive ones of course! --- So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing? <cite>Safer_777 posted [p:922181458] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>I didn't thought this about the Dothraki. Thanks for answering that. So they settle in the Reach I guess. Also I liked the council idea to elect the King. Jon=Ended where he started but he is free to do whatever he wants. Who is going to keep tabs on him? Bran=Ultimate winner just by sitting in a chair! Now that is awesome. Gray Worm=I like that he decides to heat to that island with the rest of the army and just relax there. Maybe a spin off where they explore the other continents? Sansa=Queen and independant too. Now that is cool. Ayra=Explorer. Would be nice to see what it becomes of her. Tyrion=Hand so that means he will rule instead of Bran because well he doesn't care much. The others end nice too. The alive ones of course!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 05/21/19 11:51:40 AM #120:	Safer_777 posted... Also I liked the council idea to elect the King. This system is basically "let's have a civil war every few decades" If there's one thing Westeros doesn't lack, it's nobles willing to pick fights at the drop of a hat --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:922181578] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>Safer_777 posted...</cite> <quote>Also I liked the council idea to elect the King.</quote> This system is basically "let's have a civil war every few decades" If there's one thing Westeros doesn't lack, it's nobles willing to pick fights at the drop of a hat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calintares 05/21/19 12:09:28 PM #121:	Safer_777 posted... Gray Worm=I like that he decides to heat to that island with the rest of the army and just relax there. Maybe a spin off where they explore the other continents? Going to Naath is possibly one of the stupidest things a person could ever do. Naath is home to a species of butterfly that carry a horrible lethal disease. the locals are immune, but outsiders (like Grey Worm) die quickly. No outsiders have ever managed to maintain a presence there for more than a single year. the slavers who raid the island only stay there a few hours and have to be extremely carefull. --- ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. <cite>Calintares posted [p:922182244] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>Safer_777 posted...</cite> <quote>Gray Worm=I like that he decides to heat to that island with the rest of the army and just relax there. Maybe a spin off where they explore the other continents? </quote> Going to Naath is possibly one of the stupidest things a person could ever do. Naath is home to a species of butterfly that carry a horrible lethal disease. the locals are immune, but outsiders (like Grey Worm) die quickly. No outsiders have ever managed to maintain a presence there for more than a single year. the slavers who raid the island only stay there a few hours and have to be extremely carefull.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 05/21/19 12:12:17 PM #122:	Calintares posted... Going to Naath is possibly one of the stupidest things a person could ever do. Naath is home to a species of butterfly that carry a horrible lethal disease. the locals are immune, but outsiders (like Grey Worm) die quickly. No outsiders have ever managed to maintain a presence there for more than a single year. the slavers who raid the island only stay there a few hours and have to be extremely carefull. I was so glad when I found out about this Fuck Grey Worm --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:922182359] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>Calintares posted...</cite> <quote>Going to Naath is possibly one of the stupidest things a person could ever do. Naath is home to a species of butterfly that carry a horrible lethal disease. the locals are immune, but outsiders (like Grey Worm) die quickly. No outsiders have ever managed to maintain a presence there for more than a single year. the slavers who raid the island only stay there a few hours and have to be extremely carefull.</quote> I was so glad when I found out about this Fuck Grey Worm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 05/21/19 12:35:35 PM #123:	I wanted Grey Worm and Jon to fight because that was the last possible cool sword fight to be had. Arya probably would have beaten him too fast. I guess they wanted the last sword fight to be Cleganebowl. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:922183267] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>I wanted Grey Worm and Jon to fight because that was the last possible cool sword fight to be had. Arya probably would have beaten him too fast. I guess they wanted the last sword fight to be Cleganebowl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnkboy907 05/21/19 1:01:24 PM #124:	The Dothraki Jon passes by at the end are all down at the docks. It's possible they were all boarding ships back to Essos too. Also re: Cleganebowl. I'm not sure it really ever could've been wholly satisfying. The Mountain hasn't actually been a character since he turned into a zombie (not that he was ever really much of a character), so there just wasn't really a chance for emotional connection/resolution between him and the Hound facing off. Sandor may as well have been fighting a stone golem. I mean yeah, Gregor obviously still recognized his brother and wanted to fight, as evidenced by him killing Qyburn, but there just wasn't enough human left in him to be all that satisfying. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnkboy907 posted [p:922184282] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>The Dothraki Jon passes by at the end are all down at the docks. It's possible they were all boarding ships back to Essos too. Also re: Cleganebowl. I'm not sure it really ever could've been wholly satisfying. The Mountain hasn't actually been a character since he turned into a zombie (not that he was ever really much of a character), so there just wasn't really a chance for emotional connection/resolution between him and the Hound facing off. Sandor may as well have been fighting a stone golem. I mean yeah, Gregor obviously still recognized his brother and wanted to fight, as evidenced by him killing Qyburn, but there just wasn't enough human left in him to be all that satisfying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 05/21/19 1:09:03 PM #125:	I just realized, didn't the previous three eyed raven say he was thousands of years old? So there's a fatal flaw in the system they set up because although Bran won't have kids he will outlive them all by ridiculous amounts So basically war or him opting to step down (perhaps a poor choice of words!) Is like the only way he stops being King <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922184591] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>I just realized, didn't the previous three eyed raven say he was thousands of years old? So there's a fatal flaw in the system they set up because although Bran won't have kids he will outlive them all by ridiculous amounts So basically war or him opting to step down (perhaps a poor choice of words!) Is like the only way he stops being King</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnkboy907 05/21/19 1:12:15 PM #126:	Yeah but he was also entangled into the roots of a Weirwood or something and hardly even human by the time Bran got to him. Based on that, you can't really be sure what'll happen to Bran or how long he can live. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnkboy907 posted [p:922184703] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Yeah but he was also entangled into the roots of a Weirwood or something and hardly even human by the time Bran got to him. Based on that, you can't really be sure what'll happen to Bran or how long he can live.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 05/21/19 1:38:53 PM #127:	ShatteredElysium posted... didn't the previous three eyed raven say he was thousands of years old? So there's a fatal flaw in the system But what if it's a collective? Like Bran as the three eyed raven is now thousands of years old. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:922185724] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>didn't the previous three eyed raven say he was thousands of years old? So there's a fatal flaw in the system </quote> But what if it's a collective? Like Bran as the three eyed raven is now thousands of years old.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 05/21/19 1:48:01 PM #128:	Maybe but that dude also looked old as fuck and said he had just been chilling in that cave waiting for Bran <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922186103] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Maybe but that dude also looked old as fuck and said he had just been chilling in that cave waiting for Bran</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 05/21/19 1:49:57 PM #129:	Implying Bran doesn't know he's totally undermining the spirit of the new system by being the eternal emperor! --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:922186176] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Implying Bran doesn't know he's totally undermining the spirit of the new system by being the eternal emperor!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 05/21/19 2:07:57 PM #130:	Waiting on people like they do explicitly means they can see the future, whoever said they didn't get visions of the future. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:922186885] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Waiting on people like they do explicitly means they can see the future, whoever said they didn't get visions of the future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 05/21/19 2:11:08 PM #131:	Did people want the Cleganes to like quip at each other in between sword swings, or have some big flashback to their childhood or something? And these are the same people who complain that the show is TOO anime already. They literally fought to the death in a crumbling tower surrounded by a dragon, what more could you want? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:922187029] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Did people want the Cleganes to like quip at each other in between sword swings, or have some big flashback to their childhood or something? And these are the same people who complain that the show is TOO anime already. They literally fought to the death in a crumbling tower surrounded by a dragon, what more could you want?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neonreaper 05/21/19 2:14:04 PM #132:	They want to complain --- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. <cite>neonreaper posted [p:922187166] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>They want to complain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 05/21/19 2:20:27 PM #133:	I guess that makes sense since there's very few things to complain about in this season --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:922187406] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>I guess that makes sense since there's very few things to complain about in this season</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calintares 05/21/19 2:41:46 PM #134:	foolm0r0n posted... I guess that makes sense since there's very few things to complain about in this season sarcasm? --- ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. <cite>Calintares posted [p:922188268] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>I guess that makes sense since there's very few things to complain about in this season</quote> sarcasm?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnkboy907 05/21/19 2:42:14 PM #135:	foolm0r0n posted... Did people want the Cleganes to like quip at each other in between sword swings, or have some big flashback to their childhood or something? And these are the same people who complain that the show is TOO anime already. They literally fought to the death in a crumbling tower surrounded by a dragon, what more could you want? It's about as good as it possibly could've been, which is I guess my point. Actually I think I will complain a little. My impression of Season 7 Hound is that he'd found a new lease on life and didn't necessarily want to throw it away anymore, so him going and climbing up that crumbling tower to his probable death didn't fully click with me. Like he only did it because the writers wanted Cleganebowl and couldn't fit it into the episode any other way. I mean yeah, he chose to go beyond the wall to his probable death, but honestly that whole expedition team was also entirely fan service, lol. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnkboy907 posted [p:922188290] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Did people want the Cleganes to like quip at each other in between sword swings, or have some big flashback to their childhood or something? And these are the same people who complain that the show is TOO anime already. They literally fought to the death in a crumbling tower surrounded by a dragon, what more could you want?</quote> It's about as good as it possibly could've been, which is I guess my point. Actually I think I will complain a little. My impression of Season 7 Hound is that he'd found a new lease on life and didn't necessarily want to throw it away anymore, so him going and climbing up that crumbling tower to his probable death didn't fully click with me. Like he only did it because the writers wanted Cleganebowl and couldn't fit it into the episode any other way. I mean yeah, he chose to go beyond the wall to his probable death, but honestly that whole expedition team was also entirely fan service, lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 05/21/19 2:57:56 PM #136:	I interpreted the Dothraki as all returning to Essos. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:922188914] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>I interpreted the Dothraki as all returning to Essos.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 05/21/19 3:07:07 PM #137:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p79GqP9Tl-0" data-time=" I would hope everyone can agree the soundtrack was outstanding anyway --- Not to be confused with XIII_Stones. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:922189269] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p79GqP9Tl-0" data-time=" I would hope everyone can agree the soundtrack was outstanding anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokewars 05/21/19 7:12:49 PM #138:	The "kind of forgot" memes are top tier at least. --- https://imgur.com/Lu19FQt <cite>Pokewars posted [p:922199185] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>The "kind of forgot" memes are top tier at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 05/21/19 7:40:06 PM #139:	XIII_rocks posted... I would hope everyone can agree the soundtrack was outstanding anyway absolutely Djawadi always kills it --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:922200283] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>XIII_rocks posted...</cite> <quote>I would hope everyone can agree the soundtrack was outstanding anyway</quote> absolutely Djawadi always kills it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 05/21/19 7:46:44 PM #140:	The score and sound design is by far the best on television (maybe besides twin peaks). Those guys should be proud. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:922200531] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>The score and sound design is by far the best on television (maybe besides twin peaks). Those guys should be proud.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 05/21/19 9:20:43 PM #141:	Hey so lets talk about how lazy it was to end the show without a full small council. They could have put someone in those positions, didnt have to be great. I think Arya or Sansa should have ended their arc as Master of Whsipers. Davos was the Master of Laws, right? So maybe Gendry or Edmure as Master of War just to try to represent as many of the kingdoms as possible to keep the subjects happy. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:922204150] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Hey so lets talk about how lazy it was to end the show without a full small council. They could have put someone in those positions, didnt have to be great. I think Arya or Sansa should have ended their arc as Master of Whsipers. Davos was the Master of Laws, right? So maybe Gendry or Edmure as Master of War just to try to represent as many of the kingdoms as possible to keep the subjects happy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 05/21/19 9:23:57 PM #142:	XIII_rocks posted... I would hope everyone can agree the soundtrack was outstanding anyway Worst part of the season tbh. Haven't they heard of lyrics?? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:922204274] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>XIII_rocks posted...</cite> <quote>I would hope everyone can agree the soundtrack was outstanding anyway</quote> Worst part of the season tbh. Haven't they heard of lyrics??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 05/21/19 9:26:05 PM #143:	PerfectChaosZ posted... Hey so lets talk about how lazy it was to end the show without a full small council. They could have put someone in those positions, didnt have to be great. I think Arya or Sansa should have ended their arc as Master of Whsipers. Davos was the Master of Laws, right? So maybe Gendry or Edmure as Master of War just to try to represent as many of the kingdoms as possible to keep the subjects happy. telling you it was likely a demand to leave them empty due to book spoilers or something. Probably characters alive in the books or that only exist in the books. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:922204364] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>PerfectChaosZ posted...</cite> <quote>Hey so lets talk about how lazy it was to end the show without a full small council. They could have put someone in those positions, didnt have to be great. I think Arya or Sansa should have ended their arc as Master of Whsipers. Davos was the Master of Laws, right? So maybe Gendry or Edmure as Master of War just to try to represent as many of the kingdoms as possible to keep the subjects happy.</quote> telling you it was likely a demand to leave them empty due to book spoilers or something. Probably characters alive in the books or that only exist in the books.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnkboy907 05/21/19 9:31:55 PM #144:	Why would the Three-Eyed Raven even need a Master of Whispers? --- Change is weird. <cite>mnkboy907 posted [p:922204594] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Why would the Three-Eyed Raven even need a Master of Whispers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 05/21/19 9:42:33 PM #145:	You think he can be bothered to actually look into any of the everything ever that he knows? --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:922205077] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>You think he can be bothered to actually look into any of the everything ever that he knows?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 05/21/19 9:51:41 PM #146:	foolm0r0n posted... His statement at the end - "seems we're missing a master of whisperers and a master of war" - was said so smugly/happily, implying he has no intention of filling those war-based roles, thus further solidifying peace. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:922205407] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>His statement at the end - "seems we're missing a master of whisperers and a master of war" - was said so smugly/happily, implying he has no intention of filling those war-based roles, thus further solidifying peace. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokewars 05/21/19 10:17:58 PM #147:	https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bqp67k/when_you_do_nothing_in_the_group_project_but/ --- https://imgur.com/Lu19FQt <cite>Pokewars posted [p:922206489] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bqp67k/when_you_do_nothing_in_the_group_project_but/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnkboy907 05/21/19 11:52:17 PM #148:	There's a joke in there somewhere about Dany wanting to break the wheel and the new king being in a wheelchair. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnkboy907 posted [p:922210131] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>There's a joke in there somewhere about Dany wanting to break the wheel and the new king being in a wheelchair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 05/22/19 12:09:48 AM #149:	LMAO just watched the full clip of Aaron Rodgers on the finale. that's why he's the best qb in the league --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:922210608] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>LMAO just watched the full clip of Aaron Rodgers on the finale. that's why he's the best qb in the league</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 05/22/19 10:45:24 AM #150:	Im tentatively coming to accept the ending with Bran as King. Its not amazing but its a compromise like Tyrion said. What makes it easier is the Evil Bran memes which make so much sense. How much did Bran have to set up to end up where he was at the end? I wish wed got to see a glimpse of it but it pretty much completely stopped telling us what Bran was thinking and stopped showing us any of his dream walking visions anymore which just feeds into the Bran is evil theory that he was up to no good. If we make Bran is evil cannon, can we speculate on the true motivation of the Night King? Maybe he was only trying to help, to stop Bran before it was too late, in his own way and considered anyone who died collateral damage to saving the realm as a whole. The only clue we get is from Bran and the other raven- he wants to kill them. But after he succeeded what if he had just stopped? <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:922222797] in Game of Th... [t:77728042]...</cite> <quote>Im tentatively coming to accept the ending with Bran as King. Its not amazing but its a compromise like Tyrion said. What makes it easier is the Evil Bran memes which make so much sense. How much did Bran have to set up to end up where he was at the end? I wish wed got to see a glimpse of it but it pretty much completely stopped telling us what Bran was thinking and stopped showing us any of his dream walking visions anymore which just feeds into the Bran is evil theory that he was up to no good. If we make Bran is evil cannon, can we speculate on the true motivation of the Night King? Maybe he was only trying to help, to stop Bran before it was too late, in his own way and considered anyone who died collateral damage to saving the realm as a whole. The only clue we get is from Bran and the other raven- he wants to kill them. But after he succeeded what if he had just stopped?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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