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GenesisSaga 04/27/19 12:44:07 AM #1: |
At a final score of 33-32, your SMDC X champion is...
~Nick Wilde [ 33 ] Nick Wilde: Bane_Of_Despair hombad46 Janus5k MetalmindStats Wicklebee MC_XD Xuxon TexWolf_1729 Shaduln MZero11 Raka_Putra mnkboy907 Hardcore_Adult/TheHardcoreKid Natwaf_akidna Maniac64 PrinceKaro scarletspeed7 Gatarix/Drakeryn LiquidOshawott/VeryInsane red13n kateee/blindhobo yellowwolley Cody11533 Vishje3000 handsomeboy2012 Lolo_Guru cyan1001 TheCodeisBosco kenrmcha Eddv Wizardsfan1000 Pokewars Inviso [ 32 ] Simba: v_charon guffguy89 Lopen hylianknight3 KommunistKoala GenesisSaga CommodoreTN MartinFF7 UnderUrMattress/masterofmarth StifledSilence Shonen_Bat pjbasis Johnbobb junk_funk Snake5555555555 5tarscream FBike1 starfox2245 xx521xx TotallyNotMI/My Immortal Dragon66116 DoomTheGyarados/Sir Chris BlackDra90n JONALEON1 illuminatusbubu Underleveled/darkx hagankefs DoctorBlind PButterAndJelly Pokalicious TomNook tennisboy213 --- "You're stronger than you believe. Don't let your fear own you. Own yourself." - Michelle Hodkin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenesisSaga 04/27/19 12:44:11 AM #2: |
Thank you all for participating in the tenth installment of Save My Disney Character. We've had ten contests, and despite some of the fanbase's best efforts we've had ten different winners. Clearly you guys as a community must see some inherent value in change. That's why instead of the usual post-contest Q&A I wanted to propose something entirely new. SMDC at its core will remain unchanged: trading will still be allowed, alliances encouraged, etc, so the contest you know and love will still be intact. What I'm proposing is a complete overhaul of what is and what is not allowed in, and a potential expansion of the roster to accommodate the inclusion of non-traditional "Disney" characters.
Please don't grab your torches and pitchforks or your noisemakers and pompoms just yet. I am not changing anything myself. SMDC is about community. We even have a community rule that has led to a lifetime ban for disruptive posters like slycooper69, and led to me, the host, being suspended for 3 rounds because no one should be above the law. That is why I am not giving myself the power to make these potential changes. I am giving that power to you- all of you. All of us as a community should come to a consensus as to what qualifies as "Disney enough" for SMDC, as it's only a matter of time before Disney merges with the entire world. If you think we should only include Star Wars characters who had cinematic debuts after Disney bought Lucasfilms like Rey and Poe Dameron, but not Darth Vader and Jar Jar Binks I want to hear it. If you think we should retroactively allow Wolverine and Neytiri Te Tskaha Mo'at'ite into SMDC XI because Disney owns Fox properties now I want to hear it. If Rocket Raccoon, Roger Rabbit, Rizzo the Rat, and Reed Richards are "not mah Disney" I want to hear it (and yes I'm aware one of these has already been in a contest). I want to hear arguments both for and against the inclusion and expansion of characters because if you don't speak now, come SMDC XI you will forever hold your peace. Again, I am not deciding anything. I am merely proposing it. It's not me you need to convince; it's the remainder of the community that you're appealing to, and it's on you all to decide how we proceed from here. Guys, I know change can be scary, but I'd like to remind you of a time when live action Disney was not allowed in SMDC. A character that went on to become one of our ten champions was not allowed into the first two contests. For those of you worried this will completely change the face of the contest... it will, but in a way it might not. When MI allowed Kingdom Hearts characters to enter the fray the immediate fear was that they would over-perform and push out the classic Disney characters. Well it's been three contests now, and you can see what kind of a splash they made. The fact is even if characters you don't view as Disney enough make it in, if the rest of the community is of a like mind those characters won't do well anyway, and if any traditional Disney characters are ousted it's going to be the ones no one cares about getting back in anyway. The official polls for these potential changes will go up before the next installment of SMDC, but I'd like to hear arguments now. There will also be an official poll to determine whether future contest trading will be allowed, and polls for what should happen in the event of unscheduled site maintenance and what the community rule should encompass. --- "You're stronger than you believe. Don't let your fear own you. Own yourself." - Michelle Hodkin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StifledSilence 04/27/19 12:49:56 AM #3: |
As much as I love Star Wars and Marvel, I would rather see them get their own contest. Kingdom Hearts can only bleed in a small group of new characters, but the others definitely could saturate it.
Also lmao that result is amazing. Congrats @Bane_Of_Despair! --- Bear Bro The Empire of Silence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inviso 04/27/19 12:50:50 AM #4: |
I wasn't expecting my vote to be the decider.
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scarletspeed7 04/27/19 12:50:57 AM #5: |
Marvel yes, Star Wars no.
Only because Big Hero 6 is already in. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inviso 04/27/19 12:53:08 AM #6: |
Yeah, definitely not Star Wars since we already have a Star Wars contest (which I'll run again eventually.)
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Bane_Of_Despair 04/27/19 12:55:29 AM #7: |
Wait what
I checked out of the topic early today, holy shit What the fuck, that's amazing, you guys rock --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be ...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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v_charon 04/27/19 12:56:06 AM #8: |
Marvel and Star Wars aren't Kingdom Hearts. KH is a pretty contained group of characters, while Star Wars is a massive universe (if you allow everything created that predates Disney's acquisition of it) and Marvel is as well, though obviously on a smaller scale. The thing about Disney's live action films is that they are branded as Disney. It's what you think of as the company behind them. But Marvel? You still think of Marvel, not Disney. The big issue is that when you say the names of these big Marvel characters, I don't feel the majority of people say "Oh yeah, he's my favorite Disney character". Since this is "Save My Disney Character", I really feel like if the majority of people aren't associating it with Disney, then it really isn't.
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pjbasis 04/27/19 12:58:48 AM #9: |
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TomNook 04/27/19 12:59:17 AM #10: |
Well, I didn't get my wish of the first 2 time winner, but we got our first 2 time 2nd place! That's kind of cool!
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v_charon 04/27/19 1:00:14 AM #11: |
TomNook posted...
Well, I didn't get my wish of the first 2 time winner, but we got our first 2 time 2nd place! That's kind of cool! Yeah, nothing says cool like being known as "the loser" and probably never reaching the finals again. --- :> Truly smilin' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook 04/27/19 1:04:27 AM #12: |
v_charon posted...
TomNook posted...Well, I didn't get my wish of the first 2 time winner, but we got our first 2 time 2nd place! That's kind of cool! Don't put a negative spin on it! He did something no one has done before. Just look at the brightside. --- Belles, belles, belles! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MartinFF7 04/27/19 1:06:27 AM #13: |
Yikes
That's what I get for not voting Pooh in the final 3, I guess poor Simba... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 04/27/19 1:07:53 AM #14: |
Martin you haven't even seen Zootopia how can you say yikes
Whatever I'm so happy right now seriously thanks guys --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be ...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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v_charon 04/27/19 1:09:39 AM #15: |
TomNook posted...
Hard pass. --- :> Truly smilin' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inviso 04/27/19 1:11:10 AM #16: |
Also, it took Kuja and Zidane both two finals losses before they each got their big championships. So Simba's not dead on arrival.
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TomNook 04/27/19 1:11:52 AM #17: |
Anyway, Nick is a fine enough winner. He was the star of that movie. There were a lot of people I liked more in the Top 10 so I never got many chances to vote him, but given a different Top 10 I'd definitely have.
Good job Genesis and Charon. Hosting this thing can't be easy. It was fun! --- Belles, belles, belles! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pokewars 04/27/19 1:13:07 AM #18: |
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Martin you haven't even seen Zootopia how can you say yikes Well I'm glad someone got joy out of this contest. Congrats, Nick fans. You stuck with the underdog ...underfox? all the way. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook 04/27/19 1:19:27 AM #19: |
I dug up my Predictions right before the Top 5:
TomNook posted... Predictions: I was way off and pretty good! --- Belles, belles, belles! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MartinFF7 04/27/19 1:19:53 AM #20: |
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Martin you haven't even seen Zootopia how can you say yikes Probably the fact Simba completely fucking curbstomped Pooh and Nick in the F3 which made his victory seem assured. So I don't know what happened here but I consider it disappointing? I will be watching Zootopia this weekend in his honour, though! I'll report back on my findings. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pokewars 04/27/19 1:25:50 AM #21: |
It is rather astounding this was the closest final ever when....let's face it...these two characters have a lot of the same fanbase.
Thought one would get SFF'd. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KommunistKoala 04/27/19 1:34:36 AM #22: |
simba too much of an actual animal, doesn't really get the furry vote
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DoctorBIind 04/27/19 1:40:36 AM #23: |
Okay this result might make this final the worst all time. I take back my earlier rankings.
And on the topic of negativity, boo Marvel/Star Wars entrees. Hell, boo live action in general but I recognize Im in the vast minority on that one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 04/27/19 1:49:10 AM #24: |
KommunistKoala posted...
simba too much of an actual animal, doesn't really get the furry vote Whoa hold on a sec. He literally drew the one character with finals potential i would vote over him. I will get Simba his win. I swear it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hylianknight3 04/27/19 1:49:47 AM #25: |
I am as opposed as can be to the inclusion of Marvel and Star Wars characters in SMDC. For now, Ill just say ditto to what Stifled and charon said.
--- Kampfmaschine Advokaiser punched my lights out in the 2018 Guru. My bracket was soft... just like my heart! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 04/27/19 1:54:49 AM #26: |
I love Rocket but I'm not necessarily on board with marvel or star wars inclusion.
Though there are star wars characters unique to Disney Parks that are already eligible. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WickIebee 04/27/19 1:56:15 AM #27: |
Some gauntlet people will remember that I hate Simba, so I'm glad this result happened. Dunno what to say about Marvel/Star Wars entrees, in a sense I agree with only Disney entrees to it, but Marvel's weird since every character has non-Disney appearances, and then Star Wars as Inviso said, has its own contest.
So maybe just no to both. --- I'll just go back to gifs. Not like the winner was gonna click my topic. https://imgur.com/SXyi7uX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 04/27/19 1:58:05 AM #28: |
That said, having now played through all of kingdom hearts that was released up to their inclusion in the contest, i am less against their inclusion than i was before.
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v_charon 04/27/19 2:00:00 AM #29: |
Leafeon13N posted...
Yeah good luck with that after this happening. I'm sure the people who like him definitely want to see him lose 3 times. --- :> Truly smilin' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 04/27/19 2:02:11 AM #30: |
Oops was busy with KH BBS and forgot to vote before midnight.
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MartinFF7 04/27/19 2:04:42 AM #31: |
swordz9 posted...
Oops was busy with KH BBS and forgot to vote before midnight. Do you have a KH playthrough topic going on I gotta have more KH playthrough topics to follow! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 04/27/19 2:10:18 AM #32: |
v_charon posted...
Leafeon13N posted... He will not lose again. Simba is too popular casually and i guess this was a bad case of drawing a character that splits his base. I've said it for a long time that i will help get Simba his win. Its going to happen. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KommunistKoala 04/27/19 2:15:05 AM #33: |
also thanks to charon/gen for hosting
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TomNook 04/27/19 2:36:59 AM #34: |
DoctorBIind posted...
And on the topic of negativity, boo Marvel/Star Wars entrees. Hell, boo live action in general but I recognize Im in the vast minority on that one. I think we are twins. But yeah, that is my stance as well. I don't like live action in this, so I sure don't want Marvel or Star Wars in. I like the characters from those franchises, but not in a Disney contest. --- Belles, belles, belles! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MetalmindStats 04/27/19 3:50:10 AM #35: |
Woo Nick! I figured he had met his match in Simba, that he could maybe get close but certainly not go all the way. Thank you to everyone who supported him here, especially those of you who consistently kept his round-by-round progress going.
Now onto my stance about the big question at hand here: I'm not necessarily opposed to allowing Marvel and even Star Wars characters, but to me, a character being a Disney character implies something more specific about them than just that they originated from Disney-owned content. My preferred definition would be to restrict eligibility to Disney-brand properties, without Touchstone or Hollywood Pictures characters (which, yes, would bar Who Framed Roger Rabbit's characters). If we are to continue allowing Who Framed Roger Rabbit, though, I would want to see all characters from Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures properties allowed for consistency; I don't feel that WFRR having Disney characters is sufficient for it to be considered Disney even when all other movies from those two companies are not. KommunistKoala posted... also thanks to charon/gen for hosting Finally, most of all, I want to echo this. Thank you to both of you for keeping this contest running smoothly day in and day out, as tall an order as it is sometimes. --- Hail the reigning Guru champ, Advokaiser! You proved yourself more statistically metal-minded than I ever have been - well done! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pokewars 04/27/19 4:23:28 AM #36: |
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stafoc 04/27/19 8:28:56 AM #37: |
Simba
SMDC I: 28/265 (Percentile: 90) SMDC II: 3/130 (Percentile: 98) SMDC III: 2/563 (Percentile: 99) SMDC IV: 23/200 (Percentile: 89) SMDC V: 41/200 (Percentile: 80) SMDC VI: 26/200 (Percentile: 87) SMDC VII: 45/200 (Percentile: 78) SMDC VIII: 55/200 (Percentile: 73) SMDC IX: 15/200 (Percentile: 93) SMDC X: 2/200 (Percentile: 99) Modern Era Average Placement: 28.60 All-Time Average Placement: 24.00 All-Time Average Percentile: 88.75 Modern Era Rank: 10/183 All-Time Placement Rank:6/289 All-Time Percentile Rank:7/289 Simba was a character that started out in SMDC as one of the most dominant participants around, then gradually fell off into slightly more mediocre territory. He debuted in 28th, which is fine, then made back to back top threes fantastic. He, Mulan, and now Nick are the only ones to have done that. He's also now the only character to appear in the top 3 three times. This was enough to land him in third for the SMDC III stats, though it'd be short lived. After his finals loss, he fell back a bit, spending the next five contests oscillating between being just outside the top 20, and hovering around 50, with SMDC VIII marking his low point in being his first sub-50 finish. A bit of a resurgence hit in IX though, when he finished 15, making it his first top 20 finish since his finals appearance, and actually his only top twenty appearance that wasn't also a top 3 run. And that culminated here with a finals appearance, ultimately coming up just short of a win. This makes him the first repeat finalist to lose, as both Mulan and Rapunzel won their second attempts. Simba has been hovering just outside the overall top ten for some time now, with even his worst finishes still being good enough to keep him in the game. That wound up paying off, where IX and X combined to get him back into the top 10 for the first time since SMDC VI, capitalizing on subpar finishes from some of the top ten staples. He finishes 6th in the all-time stats by placement, making it a three way tie with Donald and Mickey. His percentile ranking rises to 7th, and he manages to get in under the wire to make it to 10th in the modern ranking metric, leaving him in the top 10 for all three stats. --- --starfox2245 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stafoc 04/27/19 8:29:04 AM #38: |
Nick Wilde
SMDC I: - /265 (Percentile: -) SMDC II: - /130 (Percentile: -) SMDC III: - /563 (Percentile: -) SMDC IV: - /200 (Percentile: -) SMDC V: - /200 (Percentile: -) SMDC VI: - /200 (Percentile: -) SMDC VII: - /200 (Percentile: -) SMDC VIII: - /200 (Percentile: -) SMDC IX: 3/200 (Percentile: 99) SMDC X: 1/200 (Percentile: 100) Modern Era Average Placement: 2.00 All-Time Average Placement: 2.00 All-Time Average Percentile: 99.50 Modern Era Rank: -/183 All-Time Placement Rank:-/289 All-Time Percentile Rank:-/289 Oh hey, a non-stat eligible character with a lot to talk about! Nick officially has the best two-contest debut of any character to ever participate. Not just excluding the first two contests, but period. Donald with 5th then 1st, Mulan went 6th then 2nd, even the fabled Rapunzel didn't make the top 5 in her first two contests. Nick is one of only three characters to make back to back top threes, and one of only five characters to make multiple top threes at all. I'd also like to point out, just for fun, that Nick's final appearance was pretty close to Simba's first one -- facing a character that had previously lost a final having finished third the year prior. Except this obviously panned out differently. This average finish of 2.0 is the best we've seen, and absolutely puts him in a great position to debut atop the stats next year. His worst-case scenario to not make that happen would be for Judy Hopps to win, putting her average finish at 7.0. Should that happen, Nick would need to finish 16th to guarantee himself a debut atop the stats ladder. There's a lot of new blood ready to enter the stats next year, and it'll be interesting to see the impact that they'll have. But congrats to Nick and his supporters, getting a win for a non-stats eligible character has never happened before. And for him to be this dominant through his first two contests is absolutely no small feat either. Great job to all! --- --starfox2245 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeryInsane 04/27/19 8:35:13 AM #40: |
I feel like the contest is bloated enough that Star Wars/Marvel would make it overboard, plus would take away from some of the more fun entrees this thing gets
anyway, cool winner, but I think I was generally ok with anyone in the top 10 winning, guess I'm just easy to please --- Warning: I'm literally VeryInsane. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stafoc 04/27/19 8:35:13 AM #39: |
Also, finally, with the contest over, here are the official SMDC stats through over a decade of running these. Hopefully this should give you an idea of where everyone stands, and may help you decide who you want to back in future contests. It's just a pdf, not a spreadsheet, but it should be searchable and should give you enough information. I meant to clean it up, make it look better, thoroughly check for errors, but unfortunately time got away from me. So if you see something definitely wrong (like I caught that Stromboli wasn't last like I told you guys because Horace Badun had been name-split across contests and my sheet didn't realize he was stat-eligible), let me know and I'll try to fix it. Still, hope you enjoy, and thanks to listening to my ramblings for the past 50 or so rounds.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FdlwvR9GapjLbmbs_6Fn9IYpZiFGG7AU --- --starfox2245 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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guffguy89 04/27/19 9:11:34 AM #41: |
Congrats to the Nick supporters, this comment isn't a reflection of any of you at all...
For some reason, Nick is just one of those characters I don't like. So the only bright side to this win is that Nick should get the winner's slump next season and we wont have to see him in the top 10 again for a while. I'm also not a huge fan of stats eligibility at only 3 contests. Look at smffc. I believe like half the top 10 in stats there are new characters who havent had to go through the longevity of a lot of contests. Just a few good rounds to kick things off, and boom, your ahead of everyone in stats who've had to endure many more contests of success to get there. I'm not just saying this because Nick has a great chance of debuting number 1 next season, I've had this complaint even during last season's smffc. I think 4 or maybe even 5 contests should be the inclusion line. As for Simba, to be honest I only mildly like him, so his defeat here isnt that disappointing. TLK is not my favorite movie, and Rafiki is probably my favorite character in it. The fact that Simba got to the finals though with limited dedicated support says a lot though about his overall likeability. As far as expanding the roster....there's something to be said about not allowing characters in who debuted pre-acquisition, speaking specifically to marvel and star wars. I love the idea of only including characters who debuted post-disney acquisition. That should have a more Kingdom Hearts-like effect on the contest rather than an overpowering effect on it if you let all Marvel and Star Wars characters in. --- Don't mind me. I'm just here for the contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KommunistKoala 04/27/19 9:37:43 AM #42: |
oh yeah thanks starfox for stats as well. I love me some stats
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hombad46 04/27/19 10:40:44 AM #43: |
KommunistKoala posted...
oh yeah thanks starfox for stats as well. I love me some stats --- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenesisSaga 04/27/19 10:44:31 AM #44: |
Sorry to disappoint, guffguy but something tells me Nick's fans aren't going to miss their opportunity for him to top the STATS just because he's the X champion.
And it truly sucks for Simba, but I don't particularly like maining the same character back to back, but if he somehow manages to outlast both Tigger and Frollo I'm totally on board with trying to get him the championship again. That's a longshot though methinks. --- "You're stronger than you believe. Don't let your fear own you. Own yourself." - Michelle Hodkin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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guffguy89 04/27/19 10:51:06 AM #45: |
GenesisSaga posted...
Sorry to disappoint, guffguy but something tells me Nick's fans aren't going to miss their opportunity for him to top the STATS just because he's the X champion. That's what I'm afraid of, lol. I'd almost want a fully expanded roster just to try and avoid that from happening! Also, if we are doing any kind of expanded roster, I wouldn't be opposed to upping the contestants to 250 or 300. I know that will mess with stats percentage a bit though. If we are just including post-disney acquisition characters though, then it could realistically stay at 200. --- Don't mind me. I'm just here for the contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hombad46 04/27/19 10:55:51 AM #46: |
Include MCU characters, as that would mean including Thanos, who would then snap away half of the competition. The roster would be left in perfect balance
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PrinceKaro 04/27/19 12:21:23 PM #47: |
Yay, the best Disney movie gets its first win!
For the rule changes, as you might guess I am vehemently against any Star Wars, Marvel, Muppet, Avatar, Family Guy or whatever the fuck characters in this contest. At least with KH you could say that they hang out with Mickey and shit and that makes them sorta Disney, but you cant say a huge clusterfuck with every damn thing under the sun would be in the spirit of what SMDC is about, and I have no interest in participating in such a contest. This is 'Save My Disney Character', not 'Save My Disney Corporate Asset'. BrettEagles, the founder of SMDC, was very opposed to even Kingdom Hearts being in the contest, and he would likely be aghast at what you are proposing. Even with the company's systematic eldritch assimilation of the entertainment industry, what is and isn't a 'Disney character' should be very self-evident. I'm sorry if you are some fanboy who is like 'ZOMG i want iron man an darth vader in smdc that be rad!!' but you know what, maybe you should make a Save my Marvel or Save my Star Wars contest and people can save those characters to their hearts content. I remain in solidarity with Brett's original vision of the contest, just because something is under new management doesn't meant you should be riding unhousebroken elephants around the living room. Have a little bit of respect for history. --- https://i.imgtc.com/a6iBg1Y.jpg Congrats to Advokaiser on being really good at predicting stuff ... Copied to Clipboard!
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guffguy89 04/27/19 12:27:22 PM #48: |
I mean, if we are allowing live action disney characters into this, I'm not sure how you could rightfully exclude any live action character debuting in a movie made by disney. Just because it's from a franchise that existed before disney acquired it? With that being said, I'm kinda playing devils advocate, as I would probably side with the purists in a formal vote.
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Raka_Putra 04/27/19 12:27:55 PM #49: |
Awesome, I'm glad he won. Not that Simba would've been an undeserving winner either...pretty good Final 2.
Is Nick the quickest character to earn a win after his show/film's debut? --- I don't wanna show off no more. Play the saucy Swiss miss no more. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero11 04/27/19 12:36:13 PM #50: |
I actually typed out a Simba vote and just before hitting post message I decided to vote for Nick instead
Who knew it would actually change the result! --- MZero, to the extreme Listen to Advokaiser's bracket, this may be our last chance ... Copied to Clipboard!
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