Board 8 > i recently watched frozen for the first time and feel like talking about it

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SeabassDebeste
11/22/18 7:35:31 PM
#1:


(spoilers, of course)

was i the only one surprised that anna was the main character instead of elsa?

also how dope was that duet between anna and hans. i didn't expect that and it was awesome.
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Anagram
11/22/18 7:43:57 PM
#2:


It's a pretty good movie. I don't quite understand how it made so much, though.
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Nanis23
11/22/18 7:45:05 PM
#3:


SeabassDebeste posted...
was i the only one surprised that anna was the main character instead of elsa?

Nope
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LOLIAmAnAlt
11/22/18 8:06:33 PM
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The snowman was the best part of the movie.
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MZero11
11/22/18 8:39:06 PM
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...
The snowman was the best part of the movie.

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Leafeon13N
11/22/18 8:44:47 PM
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Anagram posted...
It's a pretty good movie. I don't quite understand how it made so much, though.


An excellent release window and good word of mouth.

Also nostalgia for the days Disney used to regularly put out animated musicals of that quality.
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KommunistKoala
11/22/18 8:46:01 PM
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wasn't elsa originally the villain
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SeabassDebeste
11/22/18 9:01:44 PM
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fuck the snowman, man!
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kateee
11/22/18 9:08:36 PM
#9:


elsa > everyone else > snowman
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Waluigi1
11/22/18 9:49:33 PM
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I quite enjoyed it.
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JonThePenguin
11/22/18 10:04:11 PM
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KommunistKoala posted...
wasn't elsa originally the villain

That was the plan.

Then the songwriters turned in Let It Go and the plan changed.
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Ashethan
11/22/18 11:05:22 PM
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My kids have seen that movie only about a thousand times.

I usually don't like musicals, myself, but I found it enjoyable.
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MenuWars
11/22/18 11:26:28 PM
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Ashethan posted...
My kids have seen that movie only about a thousand times.

I usually don't like musicals, myself, but I found it enjoyable.

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Grand Kirby
11/22/18 11:33:37 PM
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Tangled is better tho
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swirIdude
11/22/18 11:37:10 PM
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Moana has better music, don't @ me.
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StealThisSheen
11/22/18 11:57:24 PM
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You're Welcome best song
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Underleveled
11/23/18 12:04:49 AM
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Tangled is better. Still a very enjoyable flick.

I have found myself very much loving the soundtrack to the Broadway version though
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Snrkiko
11/23/18 1:00:37 AM
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i like it, but wtf was with the rock creatures

and i hate new Disney music where random lines are thrown in that come out of nowhere

like the line about chocolate in anna's song, what purpose did that serve?
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Xiahou Shake
11/23/18 1:06:56 AM
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Frozen's first half is amazing IMO. Then immediately after Let It Go it suddenly becomes the single worst thing Disney has put out since the Revival.
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foolm0r0n
11/23/18 2:51:10 AM
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I liked it but it couldn't decide whether to be a character drama or an action movie

Anna is the best so all those parts are great though
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ChichiriMuyo
11/23/18 2:55:45 AM
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KommunistKoala posted...
wasn't elsa originally the villain


Originally? She was a villain, in spite of her redemption. Having another villain doesn't mean a redeemed character wasn't a villain at the start.
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The_Ctes
11/23/18 4:01:20 AM
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IIRC the reason why a movie about the Snow Queen took literally forever for Disney to finally complete was mostly because they couldn't figure out how to properly incorporate the Snow Queen character, which Elsa was based on, so they changed what they wanted to with her a lot. The Snow Queen wasn't truly a villain originally though. Elsa's much less of a villain

And yeah, it is a really good movie, among Disney's best.
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Vlado
11/23/18 4:33:28 AM
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Anna is great.
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Forceful_Dragon
11/23/18 5:50:28 AM
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I also preferred Tangled and Moana.

But Frozen is okay.
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The_Ctes
11/23/18 5:51:40 AM
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Yeah, Anna is the best character easily.
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Waluigi1
11/23/18 7:09:52 AM
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ChichiriMuyo posted...
KommunistKoala posted...
wasn't elsa originally the villain


Originally? She was a villain, in spite of her redemption. Having another villain doesn't mean a redeemed character wasn't a villain at the start.

How was she the villain??
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Raka_Putra
11/23/18 7:44:51 AM
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Anna is so good.
I also prefer Tangled and Moana as well.
I'd say I'm pretty pissed by Frozen starting the tired recent Disney tropes regarding the identity of their villains though.
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The_Ctes
11/23/18 9:04:48 AM
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Also, Anna being the main character is a lot more obvious if you know The Snow Queen.
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SeabassDebeste
11/24/18 6:17:36 PM
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Waluigi1 posted...
ChichiriMuyo posted...
KommunistKoala posted...
wasn't elsa originally the villain


Originally? She was a villain, in spite of her redemption. Having another villain doesn't mean a redeemed character wasn't a villain at the start.

How was she the villain??

This interpretation makes a lot of sense. She's the character who causes the conflict throughout the movie.
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swordz9
11/24/18 6:21:49 PM
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Great movie with lots of great songs. Elsa da best
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tcaz2
11/24/18 6:38:26 PM
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SeabassDebeste posted...

This interpretation makes a lot of sense. She's the character who causes the conflict throughout the movie.


That... isn't the definition of a villain.

Antagonist MAYBE but even that's pushing it pretty hard.
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pjbasis
11/24/18 6:40:58 PM
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Maniac64
11/24/18 6:57:42 PM
#33:


Moana > Tangled > Frozen

I enjoyed all of them though.
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CoolCly
11/24/18 7:52:40 PM
#34:


This is a seriously top tier movie

SeabassDebeste quality write up plz
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PerfectChaosZ
11/24/18 8:32:47 PM
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I dont understand why people like Tangled. Its just.. so mediocre.

Moana and Frozen are good movies tho. Moana is better.
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Waluigi1
11/24/18 8:44:26 PM
#36:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
I dont understand why people like Tangled. Its just.. so mediocre.

Moana and Frozen are good movies tho. Moana is better.

Cause Rapunzel is adorable and charming. It's just a super cute movie.

What doesn't get enough love is poor Princess and the Frog.
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HanOfTheNekos
11/25/18 1:45:15 AM
#37:


Wreck-It Ralph > Tangled > Zootopia > Frozen >= Moana > Big Hero 6
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PerfectChaosZ
11/25/18 4:39:31 AM
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Love love love princess and the frog. Everything about it, the villain, the setting, Mama Odie even the redneck fly. Best among the new Disney movies. Still hate Tangled. No emotional connection. Its like a knockoff of a Disney movie. I had to check when I saw it.

Zootopia wasnt very good either.
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Waluigi1
11/25/18 5:27:07 AM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
Wreck-It Ralph > Tangled > Zootopia > Frozen >= Moana > Big Hero 6

How dare you. Big Hero 6 is fucking awesome.

PerfectChaosZ posted...
Zootopia wasnt very good eith

Also wtf??

You people all crazy!
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BlackMageJawa
11/25/18 9:46:34 AM
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I see Frozen as an averted villain origin story. It's about how Elsa almost became an evil sorceress who would eventually have tried to freeze the planet, but her trip down the (very) slippery slope of morality was halted by Hans' attack on Anna, which served both to bring Elsa back and realise the consequences of her actions, and see what evil looked like and realise she didn't want to end up like that.

So yeah, Elsa is an unwitting, sympathetic villain for most of Frozen. IMO.

Incidentally, there's an arc in Once Upon a Time that's basically a live-action sequel to Frozen, and ties it back to the original Snow Queen tale by having her be Anna and Elsa's aunt. She's also much more of an outright villain (if still somewhat sympathetic) than Elsa.
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foolm0r0n
11/25/18 10:34:40 AM
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Pretty sure the rapist character was the villain
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HanOfTheNekos
11/25/18 11:07:11 AM
#42:


Waluigi1 posted...
How dare you. Big Hero 6 is fucking awesome.


nah
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Waluigi1
11/25/18 2:55:55 PM
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I listened to the Broadway Forzen soundtrack yesterday. Pretty good. The new songs were nice and the troll song had a very different arrangement which is whatever since it's the worst song anyway.
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The_Ctes
11/25/18 3:44:47 PM
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BlackMageJawa posted...
and ties it back to the original Snow Queen tale by having her be Anna and Elsa's aunt.


Uhh what
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Waluigi1
11/25/18 4:42:01 PM
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The_Ctes posted...
BlackMageJawa posted...
and ties it back to the original Snow Queen tale by having her be Anna and Elsa's aunt.


Uhh what

The snow queen turns out to be their aunt.
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