Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 193: Confirmation Bias

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Obellisk
09/19/18 9:01:51 PM
#51:


Is it possible to be none of those labels? Does that make me a Politcal Atheist?
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ChaosTonyV4
09/19/18 9:52:31 PM
#52:


https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/407358-hilltv-interview-exclusive-trump-eviscerates-sessions-i-have-no-attorney

President Trump in an Oval Office interview launched one of his most ferocious broadsides to date against Jeff Sessions, suggesting the attorney general was essentially AWOL and performing badly on a variety of issues.

I wonder how long it will take Republicans to realize their leader will throw them under the bus the second hes displeased?
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Jakyl25
09/19/18 9:54:57 PM
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I think they already know that, which is why most dont try to displease him
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LordoftheMorons
09/19/18 9:56:07 PM
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Jakyl25
09/19/18 9:56:15 PM
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Also I firmly believe that the only thing giving Sessions job security at the moment is the midterms

After those are done, no matter how they shake out, hes toast
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Jakyl25
09/19/18 10:00:23 PM
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red sox 777
09/19/18 10:28:21 PM
#59:


Sessions has a poison pill set up where firing him would lead to more scrutiny for Trump. Imagine the hearings to confirm the next AG. Poison pills is language Trump understands very well - and he's got the whole GOP trapped with one.
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Suprak the Stud
09/19/18 10:30:34 PM
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I dunno wheres the outrage towards Jim Jordan.

That one still surprises me as to him having a career.
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Suprak the Stud
09/19/18 10:34:59 PM
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Eh I really shouldnt have been so flippant.

Ellison is gross and you probably only dont hear so much about him because he lowered his national profile by not seeking re-election in the house.
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HaRRicH
09/19/18 11:21:25 PM
#62:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/19/some-interpersonal-verbs-conjugated-by-gender/


This article has thoroughly confused me and for a moment I thought I was reading the webpage's code. What am I missing here?
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Corrik
09/19/18 11:47:13 PM
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Oh and as far as the neocon talk last topic. I stated this before, but I prefer isolationist and drawing all our military forces home and just worrying about ourselves and defending ourselves.

I see the merits of neocons in that you need to unilaterally stop threats abroad before they can become major problems which can eventually cause harm to citizens.

So I get torn on a back on forth of what I support. I support doing what you can to protect your citizens even if pre-emptively. However, I'd much rather mind our own business and not worry about the rest of the world's problems also.

I don't have a finite and concrete view regarding it.
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HaRRicH
09/19/18 11:48:36 PM
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9/19/2018
NEW YORK MAGAZINE - Trump Ordered the Release of Sensitive Intelligence at Sean Hannitys Request

In an interview with the Hill Tuesday, the president clarified that he would, indeed:

Buck Sexton: Have you reviewed the memos yourself? What do you expect them to show, if so?

President Trump: I have not reviewed them. I have been asked by many people in Congress as you know to release them. I have watched commentators that I respect begging the president of the United States to release them.I have been asked by so many people that I respect, please the great Lou Dobbs, the great Sean Hannity, the wonderful great Jeanie Pirro.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/trump-released-sensitive-intel-at-sean-hannitys-request.html


Between this, having Donald's lawyers Sekulow and Giuliani host Hannity's own show recently, and Cohen's attempt not to name Hannity as a client...I mean, it feels like Hannity's playing a dangerous game here.
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Eddv
09/20/18 12:01:38 AM
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Corrik posted...
Oh and as far as the neocon talk last topic. I stated this before, but I prefer isolationist and drawing all our military forces home and just worrying about ourselves and defending ourselves.

I see the merits of neocons in that you need to unilaterally stop threats abroad before they can become major problems which can eventually cause harm to citizens.

So I get torn on a back on forth of what I support. I support doing what you can to protect your citizens even if pre-emptively. However, I'd much rather mind our own business and not worry about the rest of the world's problems also.

I don't have a finite and concrete view regarding it.


I will say this is an area where I sharply diverge from many liberals.

I dont think the Bush Doctrine is necessarily incorrect. I think it was in the case of Iraq badly misapplied for a few reasons (namely that they badly miscalculated the threat posed by Saddam Hussein and vastly underestimated the value of having a check like him on Iran's primacy over the Shia sphere and did not exhaust non-military options before committing to A fairly long term foreign policy engagement) .

But I don't think its wrong. Global threats do need managed, democracy/liberalism does need a global advocate and that should be us. We should push for free and fair trade everywhere as that is the way you drag places into the modern world.
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Mr Lasastryke
09/20/18 7:26:05 AM
#67:


global threats do need to be managed. the way GWB went about doing this was just an unmitigated disaster.
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Jakyl25
09/20/18 10:18:11 AM
#68:


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/20/ron-desantis-florida-racial-issues-830726

DeSantis campaign stumbles into racism controversy AGAIN

Its almost comical at this point

MIAMI A Republican activist who donated more than $20,000 to Ron DeSantis and lined up a speech for him at President Trumps Mar-a-Lago club called President Obama a F---- MUSLIM N---- on Twitter recently, in addition to other inflammatory remarks.

Steven M. Alembik told POLITICO Wednesday he wrote the Obama tweet in anger, that hes absolutely not a racist

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xp1337
09/20/18 10:24:26 AM
#69:


Have there been any updates regarding Ellison since when I brought it up last time? (Which was the day of his primary IIRC) Because if not, I think my feelings of "Think he should have stepped aside" still hold.
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Jakyl25
09/20/18 10:25:38 AM
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So somebody like Chris Rock can get up onstage and use the word and theres no problem? But some white guy says it and hes a racist? Really? the 67-year-old Alembik said, noting that whats considered racially charged language now wasnt racist when he was a kid. I grew up in New York in the 50s. We were the k----. They were the n------. They were the goyim. And those were the s----.


Not a politician, but damn I knew it was coming soon

...also I dont even know what s-word slur hes referring to.
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Mr Lasastryke
09/20/18 10:28:47 AM
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Jakyl25
09/20/18 10:30:32 AM
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xp1337 posted...
Have there been any updates regarding Ellison since when I brought it up last time? (Which was the day of his primary IIRC) Because if not, I think my feelings of "Think he should have stepped aside" still hold.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/keith-ellison-domestic-violence-accuser-posts-2017-medical-document-identifying-democrat-as-abuser.html
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TheRock1525
09/20/18 10:31:22 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...

So somebody like Chris Rock can get up onstage and use the word and theres no problem? But some white guy says it and hes a racist? Really? the 67-year-old Alembik said, noting that whats considered racially charged language now wasnt racist when he was a kid. I grew up in New York in the 50s. We were the k----. They were the n------. They were the goyim. And those were the s----.


Not a politician, but damn I knew it was coming soon

...also I dont even know what s-word slur hes referring to.

Ends in "pics".
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Jakyl25
09/20/18 10:32:27 AM
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OH okay thanks
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xp1337
09/20/18 10:46:47 AM
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Yeaaaaah, that's not good for Ellison. I know the primary defense for Ellison was that there was some weirdness going on with that accuser's story about her evidence (had a tape, lost it; got hacked) but if she's now provided evidence like that he should absolutely go. Even before, the fact that someone found a police report about a separate incident years back added credibility to the more recent and public allegation by helping to establish a pattern and I felt he should go based on that.

I said it when I first raised the topic back then, but given I liked and supported Ellison, most recently in the DNC chair election, I felt it was particularly important for me to call for him to step down in light of the allegations.
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scarletspeed7
09/20/18 11:07:52 AM
#76:


Jakyl25 posted...

So somebody like Chris Rock can get up onstage and use the word and theres no problem? But some white guy says it and hes a racist? Really? the 67-year-old Alembik said, noting that whats considered racially charged language now wasnt racist when he was a kid. I grew up in New York in the 50s. We were the k----. They were the n------. They were the goyim. And those were the s----.


Not a politician, but damn I knew it was coming soon

...also I dont even know what s-word slur hes referring to.

Cue Michael Scott quotes from "Diversity Day".
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Kenri
09/20/18 11:14:21 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
So somebody like Chris Rock can get up onstage and use the word and theres no problem? But some white guy says it and hes a racist? Really?

love questions that can be answered with a simple yes
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SupremeZero
09/20/18 11:48:41 AM
#78:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/20/brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court-yale-amy-chua

Cool.
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TheRock1525
09/20/18 11:52:58 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/19/a-steel-worker-strike-has-potential-to-derail-trumps-steel-resurgence.html

I'm slightly tempted to unblock corrik for his thoughts on this.
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GuessMyUserName
09/20/18 11:54:13 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...

So somebody like Chris Rock can get up onstage and use the word and theres no problem? But some white guy says it and hes a racist? Really? the 67-year-old Alembik said, noting that whats considered racially charged language now wasnt racist when he was a kid. I grew up in New York in the 50s. We were the k----. They were the n------. They were the goyim. And those were the s----.


Not a politician, but damn I knew it was coming soon

...also I dont even know what s-word slur hes referring to.

*googles*

called President Obama a F---- MUSLIM N---- on Twitter recently

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Steven M. Alembik told POLITICO Wednesday he wrote the Obama tweet in anger, that hes absolutely not a racist


... I just don't get it. When you're just belting out the most blatantly hateful language, what's the big deal to just say "yeah I'm racist so what"?

like "f*** muslim n*****" is quite clearly nothing positive, Alembik quite clearly hates this "muslim n*****", and now he chickens up and says nah he ain't racist?

Just a friendly reminder to a certain someone: Racists aren't going to tell you they're racists.
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Peace___Frog
09/20/18 11:56:38 AM
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"I don't agree with your definition of nationalism, even though your definition of nationalism is the historically accurate one and is widely accepted in academic literature" has to be among my favorite defenses of nationalism that I've ever witnessed.
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LordoftheMorons
09/20/18 12:28:53 PM
#82:


This isnt actually related to anything, but this picture is fantastic:

https://twitter.com/estwebber/status/1042738757697458178?s=21
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Obellisk
09/20/18 12:59:58 PM
#83:


Do you want to see my house? Its over there, another resident said, pointing to a badly damaged yellow house across the street.

Behind the house, a large yacht had washed ashore and was shipwrecked against the wooden deck.

He gazed at the yacht, saying, Is this your boat? The owner said no. Trump turned and replied with smile, At least you got a nice boat out of the deal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M" data-time="

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CelesMyUserName
09/20/18 1:12:13 PM
#84:


http://trumptoadextension.com/
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LordoftheMorons
09/20/18 8:22:34 PM
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Im an effort to defend Kavanaugh, National Review writer Ed Whelan has invented a conspiracy theory in which one of Kavanaughs friends (who he named) who happens to sort of look like Kavanaugh was the real attempted rapist
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TotallyNotMI
09/20/18 8:58:46 PM
#86:


So let's see if I'm getting this all right.

It went:

1) It didn't happen, she's just being political.
2) If it did happen, it was just horseplay.
3) It it was more than horseplay, he was young and shouldn't be held accountable.
4) It's really all Senator Feinstein's fault (I'm not sure how this one happened)
5) If it did happen and he should be held accountable it wasn't him it was this other person.

Did I miss a step in there anywhere?
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LordoftheMorons
09/20/18 9:02:09 PM
#87:


I havent seen a serious suggestion for what Feinstein should have done differently, either (Should she have not respected Fords wishes and made it public earlier? Should she have lied to the reporters who asked about it? Those seem to be the only other options).
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Jakyl25
09/20/18 9:12:39 PM
#88:


Feel good catharsis for the night

https://twitter.com/boyboiiat/status/1041760817484627969?s=21

Proud Boy wants to take a shouting match physical, proceeds to get whupped and dragged away. Winner kept his shirt collar as a trophy as top reply shows
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Corrik
09/20/18 9:15:35 PM
#89:


Jakyl25 posted...
Feel good catharsis for the night

https://twitter.com/boyboiiat/status/1041760817484627969?s=21

Proud Boy wants to take a shouting match physical, proceeds to get whupped and dragged away. Winner kept his shirt collar as a trophy as top reply shows

Thought we were gonna see something like that other fight. He ripped his shirt. Basically it.
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Eddv
09/20/18 9:23:59 PM
#90:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Im an effort to defend Kavanaugh, National Review writer Ed Whelan has invented a conspiracy theory in which one of Kavanaughs friends (who he named) who happens to sort of look like Kavanaugh was the real attempted rapist


Yeah Nat Review has really backed away from never-trump
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Jakyl25
09/20/18 9:25:00 PM
#91:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Feel good catharsis for the night

https://twitter.com/boyboiiat/status/1041760817484627969?s=21

Proud Boy wants to take a shouting match physical, proceeds to get whupped and dragged away. Winner kept his shirt collar as a trophy as top reply shows

Thought we were gonna see something like that other fight. He ripped his shirt. Basically it.


If someone gets literally dragged away from a fight they started, they lost man
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Jakyl25
09/20/18 9:26:21 PM
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Corrik
09/20/18 9:34:52 PM
#93:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Feel good catharsis for the night

https://twitter.com/boyboiiat/status/1041760817484627969?s=21

Proud Boy wants to take a shouting match physical, proceeds to get whupped and dragged away. Winner kept his shirt collar as a trophy as top reply shows

Thought we were gonna see something like that other fight. He ripped his shirt. Basically it.


If someone gets literally dragged away from a fight they started, they lost man

He fell down a step going after the guy he was fighting and another dude he wasn't fighting dragged him like 4 steps. If that is how you definitely losing a fight then that makes literally zero sense.

I mean, that dude definitely shouldn't be fighting in the state he was in though. He was so fucking slow and I guess clearly drunk that he looked like he was moving at 25% speed.

Moral of story. No one lands a single punch. Dude rips guys shirt and goes away behind people. Guy trying to get at him falls down a step and guy behind him pulls him away a few steps.

Basically wasn't even a fight.

Upon further viewing, the guy who rips his shirt does land a single punch when he was on his knees.
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Jakyl25
09/20/18 9:36:16 PM
#94:


Corrik posted...

He fell down a step going after the guy he was fighting and another dude he wasn't fighting dragged him like 4 steps. If that is how you definitely losing a fight then that makes literally zero sense.


So what, you call it a no contest?
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Jakyl25
09/20/18 9:38:25 PM
#95:


Corrik posted...
No one lands a single punch


Uhhhh
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Corrik
09/20/18 9:39:17 PM
#96:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

He fell down a step going after the guy he was fighting and another dude he wasn't fighting dragged him like 4 steps. If that is how you definitely losing a fight then that makes literally zero sense.


So what, you call it a no contest?

I dunno what to even call that. Looks like a little spat that basically got broken up basically. I dunno. But, that proud boy looked like shit during it and he shouldn't be so proud anymore lol
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Peace___Frog
09/20/18 11:31:28 PM
#97:


Proud boys should never fucking be proud, for any reason, ever.
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kevwaffles
09/21/18 12:05:59 AM
#98:


Everyone knows it's not really a fight if you don't hear loud sound effects on every hit.
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StealThisSheen
09/21/18 12:25:55 AM
#99:


Bam! Smack! Doof! Splat! Crack! Biff!

Add where appropriate
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HaRRicH
09/21/18 12:36:19 AM
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That fight was painfully slow-moving.
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