Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 193: Confirmation Bias

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pxlated
09/22/18 8:35:01 AM
#151:


ah yes, i forgot the ol' figure of speech of "i can't listen to a woman who i don't find attractive"
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pxlated
09/22/18 8:37:32 AM
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that explains your crippling lack of self awareness!
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Corrik
09/22/18 8:46:21 AM
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Ulti you make zero sense
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HarrietTubgirl
09/22/18 10:56:30 AM
#156:


So now Ford is claiming she moved 3000 miles away because she was traumatized by the alleged groping when she was 15. And she says she'll have to leave the country if The Hitman is confirmed.

Based on nothing but gut instinct, I'm starting to realize that this lady is totally delusional. It's exactly how fringe leftists react to things these days.
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Corrik
09/22/18 11:07:37 AM
#157:


HarrietTubgirl posted...
So now Ford is claiming she moved 3000 miles away because she was traumatized by the alleged groping when she was 15. And she says she'll have to leave the country if The Hitman is confirmed.

Based on nothing but gut instinct, I'm starting to realize that this lady is totally delusional. It's exactly how fringe leftists react to things these days.

The only person who has come out to corroborate her story has recanted when the story didn't make sense to Ford's.

The therapist notes also did not line up properly, and they said the therapist made mistakes.

Not saying she is lying, but there is an extreme lack of evidence.
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Peace___Frog
09/22/18 11:56:02 AM
#158:


Corrik posted...
Not saying she is lying, but there is an extreme lack of evidence.

That is, in effect, exactly what you are saying.

It's like if I said the following:
Not saying Corrik is always arguing in bad faith, but there is an extreme amount of evidence.
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Corrik
09/22/18 12:00:38 PM
#159:


Peace___Frog posted...
Corrik posted...
Not saying she is lying, but there is an extreme lack of evidence.

That is, in effect, exactly what you are saying.

It's like if I said the following:
Not saying Corrik is always arguing in bad faith, but there is an extreme amount of evidence.

A lack of evidence does not mean someone is lying. I wiped my ass after shitting today.

I have no evidence to corrobate my story. Does it mean I am lying?

Can you ever stop trying to tell people what they are saying so you can say some stupid nonsense about the imaginary made up thing you said people said was.
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xp1337
09/22/18 12:06:34 PM
#160:


Corrik posted...
but there is an extreme lack of evidence.

This sounds similar to what you characterized as "potential evidence" when it was in relation to Clinton tbqh. What's the difference?
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Corrik
09/22/18 12:21:39 PM
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xp1337 posted...
Corrik posted...
but there is an extreme lack of evidence.

This sounds similar to what you characterized as "potential evidence" when it was in relation to Clinton tbqh. What's the difference?

Possibly destroying evidence is potential evidence of corrupt behavior yes.
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Corrik
09/22/18 12:22:32 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
https://www.infowars.com/bombshell-kavanaugh-accusers-salacious-high-school-yearbooks-scrubbed/

They (not infowars, but regular people digging this stuff up) found her yearbook, but Infowars is the only place that uploaded it as far as I can tell. No chance in hell she testifies given how she actually is as a person. She's an elitist white racist who put these parties together with the specific goal of getting blackout drunk and fucking as many dudes as possible. Her students of today have also come out and admitted she's a POS human being that hates all men.

I'm predicting they try to find another girl to accuse him at this point. This one is a lying tramp. And as I predicted, the accusation was fake. Which anyone could have figured out in seconds with even a child's grasp of pattern recognition. Anyone denying it is either ignorant beyond help or too partisan to bother talking to.

Called it. Told you so. Vindicated. Yet another thing I was ahead of the curve on. As usual, Ulti Was Right. How does one man fly all these Ws?

When in doubt, just blame Russia! :D

Man, this post besides being insane is probably even moddable.
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xp1337
09/22/18 12:23:05 PM
#164:


Not what I'm asking. I'm asking why you're not characterizing the evidence in this case as "potential evidence" and instead dismissing it as "extreme lack of evidence."
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Corrik
09/22/18 12:26:52 PM
#165:


Most reputable sources aren't going to waste their time with this unless is is actually factual. Maybe you should stop using fucking infowars. It just makes you continually look very silly.

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/christine-blasey-ford-yearbook/
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Corrik
09/22/18 12:28:11 PM
#166:


xp1337 posted...
Not what I'm asking. I'm asking why you're not characterizing the evidence in this case as "potential evidence" and instead dismissing it as "extreme lack of evidence."

Which part would you specifically liked to be referred to as potential evidence in this case?

The person who recanted the story I would have considered potential evidence before the recanting.

The lie detector is potential evidence.
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xp1337
09/22/18 12:31:31 PM
#167:


Corrik posted...
Which part would you specifically liked to be referred to as potential evidence in this case?

Nothing in particular because I don't think of things in that way. I just felt like based on our discussion about the Clinton investigation that this would be an instance too where you would say there is "potential evidence" and so I was wondering why you didn't say that and instead chose to say there was an "extreme lack of evidence."

I was trying to figure out how you look at these things, that's all.

FWIW, the lie detector isn't much IMO. There's a reason they're not admissible in court. I mean, obviously it's better to pass one than fail, but it's not something I put stock in personally. I believe the accusation is credible both because my default position is to believe the victim and the therapist notes help support that position IMO.
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HarrietTubgirl
09/22/18 12:38:49 PM
#168:


xp1337 posted...
the therapist notes help support that position

The therapist notes are not even aligned with her story. You're just seeing what you want to believe.

Also it's pretty disturbing to see this philosophy of "automatically believing the victim." Hope you're proud of sharing the same sentiment as the people who killed Emmit Till and hundreds of other black men wrongly accused of sexually accosting white women.
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Suprak the Stud
09/22/18 12:38:53 PM
#169:


Corrik posted...
Most reputable sources aren't going to waste their time with this unless is is actually factual. Maybe you should stop using fucking infowars. It just makes you continually look very silly.

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/christine-blasey-ford-yearbook/


In a broadcast on Thursday, Jones focused on one image of a girl wearing a miniskirt. The students face is censored from the image but Jones repeatedly suggests that this is Ford, describing the skirt made the teenage girl a hussy and captain of the sluts.

We need Judge Kavanaugh to still testify next week and to have big blown-up poster boards with Christine Blasey Ford spreading her legs in the high school yearbooks, Jones rants, in stockings up to her knees and miniskirts, provocatively putting her hand behind her head and showing everything but her panties.

Jones goes on to claim that Ford would pass out at parties to suggest that this gave her plausible deniability.


Holy shit what an incredibly disgusting human being. And of course the article points out none of these photos are her except one and all that shows is her sitting down at a Halloween party.

Hes literally calling her a lying whore, to a huge audience, who are all fine with this, and people have the gall to act surprised as to why people who were sexually assaulted might not want to bring it up right away.

Like going we need a fair hearing so lets have her testify first or whatever is one thing. This is literally shame this woman because she was in the same yearbook as other women who were partying one time in their lives and therefore she is a liar and a slut and she deserved whatever happened to her. It is unconsciousably gross.

Yo Corrik check out whos on your side on the right. Plenty of room over here still, man.
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Inviso
09/22/18 12:42:18 PM
#170:


HarrietTubgirl posted...
xp1337 posted...
the therapist notes help support that position

The therapist notes are not even aligned with her story. You're just seeing what you want to believe.

Also it's pretty disturbing to see this philosophy of "automatically believing the victim." Hope you're proud of sharing the same sentiment as the people who killed Emmit Till and hundreds of other black men wrongly accused of sexually accosting white women.


Good to see the age-old conservative strategy of "you care about minorities, right? Let me bring them up to shame you over something I don't give a shit about, all so I can distract from an uncomfortable subject for me". Where's Ulti to bring up how shitty women's rights are in the Middle East and how much better women have it in America?
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xp1337
09/22/18 12:43:22 PM
#171:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Like going we need a fair hearing so lets have her testify first or whatever is one thing.

Man, no one on the GOP side is trying to get a fair hearing. They're refusing to call witnesses! Or let the FBI investigate. They're grudgingly - and still trying to sabotage - a hearing so they can say it's "he-said-she-said" because they don't want to find the truth.

If they actually believed he was innocent there shouldn't be a problem with allowing those things.
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HarrietTubgirl
09/22/18 12:44:38 PM
#172:


Inviso posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...
xp1337 posted...
the therapist notes help support that position

The therapist notes are not even aligned with her story. You're just seeing what you want to believe.

Also it's pretty disturbing to see this philosophy of "automatically believing the victim." Hope you're proud of sharing the same sentiment as the people who killed Emmit Till and hundreds of other black men wrongly accused of sexually accosting white women.


Good to see the age-old conservative strategy of "you care about minorities, right? Let me bring them up to shame you over something I don't give a shit about, all so I can distract from an uncomfortable subject for me". Where's Ulti to bring up how shitty women's rights are in the Middle East and how much better women have it in America?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/au2Wp3bNL38/hqdefault.jpg

BELIEVE ALL WOMEN
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Suprak the Stud
09/22/18 12:45:09 PM
#173:


Seph is in trolling mode so you can safely ignore him if you want because hes just trying to get you guys angry.
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Inviso
09/22/18 12:45:47 PM
#175:


HarrietTubgirl posted...
Inviso posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...
xp1337 posted...
the therapist notes help support that position

The therapist notes are not even aligned with her story. You're just seeing what you want to believe.

Also it's pretty disturbing to see this philosophy of "automatically believing the victim." Hope you're proud of sharing the same sentiment as the people who killed Emmit Till and hundreds of other black men wrongly accused of sexually accosting white women.


Good to see the age-old conservative strategy of "you care about minorities, right? Let me bring them up to shame you over something I don't give a shit about, all so I can distract from an uncomfortable subject for me". Where's Ulti to bring up how shitty women's rights are in the Middle East and how much better women have it in America?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/au2Wp3bNL38/hqdefault.jpg

BELIEVE ALL WOMEN


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZakGtYooyPY/maxresdefault.jpg

ALL MEN ARE VICTIMS
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xp1337
09/22/18 12:46:16 PM
#176:


I don't even understand the point trying to be made.

Institutional racism has existed in our justice system forever. It needs to be exposed and expunged. Or did Seph decide to support Black Lives Matter while I wasn't looking?
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Inviso
09/22/18 12:48:05 PM
#177:


xp1337 posted...
I don't even understand the point trying to be made.

Institutional racism has existed in our justice system forever. It needs to be exposed and expunged. Or did Seph decide to support Black Lives Matter while I wasn't looking?


Conservatives have such homogenized support that they can easily just say "support white men above all else." They realize that liberals support women, minorities, and the LGBTQ+ community...so whenever two of those groups conflict with each other, they like to bring that up to try and make liberals look like the bad guys for supporting one side over the other (while the conservatives don't support ANYONE involved, so they don't give a shit.)
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Kenri
09/22/18 12:49:54 PM
#178:


HarrietTubgirl posted...
Hope you're proud of sharing the same sentiment as the people who killed Emmit Till and hundreds of other black men wrongly accused of sexually accosting white women.

It's Emmett Till and he was a child, not a man.

You clearly care a lot; hope it's extended to the hundreds of black men and children falsely accused of waving guns in front of cops after being murdered.
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HarrietTubgirl
09/22/18 12:49:58 PM
#179:


xp1337 posted...
I don't even understand the point trying to be made.

Institutional racism has existed in our justice system forever. It needs to be exposed and expunged. Or did Seph decide to support Black Lives Matter while I wasn't looking?

You don't understand that there is an inherent issue with defaulting to the victim's accusation that has historically led to the brutal deaths of innocent people? Cf Emmet Till
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Corrik
09/22/18 12:50:16 PM
#180:


xp1337 posted...
Corrik posted...
Which part would you specifically liked to be referred to as potential evidence in this case?

Nothing in particular because I don't think of things in that way. I just felt like based on our discussion about the Clinton investigation that this would be an instance too where you would say there is "potential evidence" and so I was wondering why you didn't say that and instead chose to say there was an "extreme lack of evidence."

I was trying to figure out how you look at these things, that's all.

FWIW, the lie detector isn't much IMO. There's a reason they're not admissible in court. I mean, obviously it's better to pass one than fail, but it's not something I put stock in personally. I believe the accusation is credible both because my default position is to believe the victim and the therapist notes help support that position IMO.

That is why the lie detector is only potential evidence. You are comparing evidence of a crime to a behavior though.
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Forceful_Dragon
09/22/18 12:50:26 PM
#181:


Ulti just linked fucking Infowars?

Unironically?

Less than 24 hours after shitting on a post he thought was a WaPo article but was actually Time?
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Corrik
09/22/18 12:52:00 PM
#182:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Corrik posted...
Most reputable sources aren't going to waste their time with this unless is is actually factual. Maybe you should stop using fucking infowars. It just makes you continually look very silly.

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/christine-blasey-ford-yearbook/


In a broadcast on Thursday, Jones focused on one image of a girl wearing a miniskirt. The students face is censored from the image but Jones repeatedly suggests that this is Ford, describing the skirt made the teenage girl a hussy and captain of the sluts.

We need Judge Kavanaugh to still testify next week and to have big blown-up poster boards with Christine Blasey Ford spreading her legs in the high school yearbooks, Jones rants, in stockings up to her knees and miniskirts, provocatively putting her hand behind her head and showing everything but her panties.

Jones goes on to claim that Ford would pass out at parties to suggest that this gave her plausible deniability.


Holy shit what an incredibly disgusting human being. And of course the article points out none of these photos are her except one and all that shows is her sitting down at a Halloween party.

Hes literally calling her a lying whore, to a huge audience, who are all fine with this, and people have the gall to act surprised as to why people who were sexually assaulted might not want to bring it up right away.

Like going we need a fair hearing so lets have her testify first or whatever is one thing. This is literally shame this woman because she was in the same yearbook as other women who were partying one time in their lives and therefore she is a liar and a slut and she deserved whatever happened to her. It is unconsciousably gross.

Yo Corrik check out whos on your side on the right. Plenty of room over here still, man.

Alex Jones or Infowars or whatever just happens to be someone who votes the way I do at times. It does not speak to my position, beliefs, or actions. They are extreme filth. Which the left equally has as well.
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xp1337
09/22/18 12:52:13 PM
#183:


I know what he was trying to do. I'm saying it just doesn't make sense.

Like Suprak mentioned he's trying to make us angry but I'm just like "Really?" It's so transparent and seems to assume that everything is so one dimensional and that you can't have systemic misogyny and systemic racism at the same time and they're both problems and yes they can overlap.

Like I saw that post and my first thought was, "Yeah, systemic racism is still a huge problem. Weird segue to make in this discussion though."
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pxlated
09/22/18 12:52:20 PM
#184:


TIL believing victims is the same as advocating for the death penalty
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Corrik
09/22/18 12:53:59 PM
#186:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Forceful_Dragon posted...
Ulti just linked fucking Infowars?

Unironically?

Less than 24 hours after shitting on a post he thought was a WaPo article but was actually Time?

The yearbook is the source, genius.

A literal child could figure this out.

I think a literal child has more intellect than you.
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Suprak the Stud
09/22/18 12:55:21 PM
#187:


Seph 0/2 for the spelling is pretty great though.
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Forceful_Dragon
09/22/18 12:57:32 PM
#188:


UltimaterializerX posted...
The yearbook is the source, genius.

A literal child could figure this out.


The yearbook that proved that some kids went to parties and drank alcohol while in highschool?

A lot of kids at my school did that shit but I didn't. Not sure what that is but supposed to prove except "she went to highschool".
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LapisLazuli
09/22/18 12:58:21 PM
#189:


Gotta love when Corrik calls out Ulti being a fucking shitstain idiot even when they're on the same side.
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Mr Lasastryke
09/22/18 1:00:08 PM
#190:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Seph is in trolling mode


he's not "in trolling mode." he almost always posts like this here, as i've been saying forever.
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Kenri
09/22/18 1:01:09 PM
#191:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Seph 0/2 for the spelling is pretty great though.

I care about the falsely accused, such as *looks at smudged writing on hand* Kermit Hill
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Corrik
09/22/18 1:08:47 PM
#193:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Forceful_Dragon posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
The yearbook is the source, genius.

A literal child could figure this out.


The yearbook that proved that some kids went to parties and drank alcohol while in highschool?

A lot of kids at my school did that shit but I didn't. Not sure what that is but supposed to prove except "she went to highschool".

You clearly didn't actually read the article. The redacted parts are getting dug up, too.

The point here is her claim is 100% impossible to prove at best.

That wasn't your point, Ulti.
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Obellisk
09/22/18 1:17:39 PM
#194:


So ulti hates women and blames them for all the problems.
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Jakyl25
09/22/18 1:20:56 PM
#195:


LapisLazuli posted...
Gotta love when Corrik calls out Ulti being a fucking shitstain idiot even when they're on the same side.


I applaud him for this. Its one of the reasons I do still occasionally interact with him in good faith.

Police your own is very important to me in these topics.
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Mr Lasastryke
09/22/18 1:25:11 PM
#196:


i mean, calling out ulti is hardly worth applauding. what's he going to do next, call out lamejokealt for being an idiot?

i wouldn't even say corrik is necessarily on ulti's side tbqh. if anything, his beliefs are probably the closest to sephy's (who corrik - not so coincidentally - is not calling out at all).
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red sox 777
09/22/18 1:29:49 PM
#198:


Ulti posts are like Trump tweets. It's intentional trolling. But Ulti is important, because he's a pretty good bellwether for the American swing voter.
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LinkMarioSamus
09/22/18 1:30:05 PM
#199:


How hard can it be to find a candidate who doesn't have some gross sexual misconduct incident in their past?

Then again as a fan of Arnold Schwarzenegger maybe I shouldn't talk.
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Not_an_Owl
09/22/18 1:31:46 PM
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In today's edition of "Absolutely Brutal Political Ads":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZuayQFD51w" data-time="

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