Poll of the Day > What class would Adolph Hitler be summoned for the Holy Grail War?

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Viking_Mudcrap
09/19/18 12:50:23 PM
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Which class? - Results (3 votes)
Saber
0% (0 votes)
0
Archer
0% (0 votes)
0
Lancer
0% (0 votes)
0
Rider
0% (0 votes)
0
Caster
0% (0 votes)
0
Assassin
33.33% (1 vote)
1
Ruler
33.33% (1 vote)
1
Avenger
33.33% (1 vote)
1
Skipping Berserker as that one is more of a "chosen" class by the master.

My money would be on Rider, his noble phantasm -

Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte
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Zeus
09/19/18 12:52:22 PM
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Given that he had no combat ability at all, I'm not sure why he'd be summoned in the first place. You might as well summon Bob from Accounting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T1NV7-Pbsg" data-time="

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Kyuubi4269
09/19/18 1:00:11 PM
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Zeus posted...
Given that he had no combat ability at all, I'm not sure why he'd be summoned in the first place. You might as well summon Bob from Accounting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T1NV7-Pbsg" data-time="

He successfully killed one person himself.
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Viking_Mudcrap
09/19/18 1:00:32 PM
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Well, taking the following servants exist -

Charles Babbage -
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Caster_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Babbage)

Hans Christian Anderson -
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Caster_(Fate/Extra_CCC)

THE FUCKING NURSERY RHYME BOOK -
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Caster_(Fate/Extra)

I think Hitler will be ok in fighting abilities.
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ParanoidObsessive
09/19/18 1:22:08 PM
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He was "Der Fhrer", which basically means "ruler". So Ruler would be the obvious choice.

Though if you want to go in the context of what the roles actually imply in that universe, he's probably more of an Avenger.



Zeus posted...
Given that he had no combat ability at all

He WAS a soldier in the first World War. We can argue just how skilled or able he was, but at the end of the day he DID fight in multiple battles, and was awarded medals for bravery in combat. Which suggests he had at least SOME combat ability.

If anything, part of his problem was that he DID have combat ability and experience, which gave him an overinflated sense of his own ability when it came to discussing tactics and strategy, which in turn left him less willing to listen when other, more experienced commanders attempted to contradict him. If he was COMPLETELY militarily inept, he might actually have been more inclined to listen to them.


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Blighboy
09/19/18 1:31:37 PM
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Viking_Mudcrap posted...
Well, taking the following servants exist -

Charles Babbage -
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Caster_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Babbage)

Hans Christian Anderson -
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Caster_(Fate/Extra_CCC)

THE FUCKING NURSERY RHYME BOOK -
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Caster_(Fate/Extra)

I think Hitler will be ok in fighting abilities.

I'm generally not a fan of modern servants tbh. The original story is much more focused on servants being superpowered heroes.

But regardless modern or non combat servants have a gimmick explaining how they have their super powers. Or otherwise are shit like Shakespeare or Mata Hari. So before you decide what class Hitler should be you need to decide his gimmick and powers.

The class is the least important aspect of the servant anyway tbh. Most servants can be weaseled into numerous classes.
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Blighboy
09/19/18 1:33:17 PM
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Thinking about it some more i suggest a tentacle loli foreigner classed Hitler deriving from his fondness for the supernatural.
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joemodda
09/19/18 1:39:50 PM
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Zeus posted...
Given that he had no combat ability at all, I'm not sure why he'd be summoned in the first place. You might as well summon Bob from Accounting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T1NV7-Pbsg" data-time="


Pretty sure Hitler served on the frontline in WW1
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Zeus
09/19/18 1:44:38 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
He was "Der Fhrer", which basically means "ruler". So Ruler would be the obvious choice.


Many of the other servants were *also* rulers, though. Alexander the Great -- one of history's most famous rulers -- wound up being Rider-class servant.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
He WAS a soldier in the first World War. We can argue just how skilled or able he was, but at the end of the day he DID fight in multiple battles, and was awarded medals for bravery in combat. Which suggests he had at least SOME combat ability.


Although not the legendary level of skill associated with the other servants (minus those weird ones Viking posted), which is the whole reason they were picked during the Grail Wars.

Blighboy posted...
The class is the least important aspect of the servant anyway tbh. Most servants can be weaseled into numerous classes.


This. Pretty sure it's outright stated as such in at least F/SN
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Blighboy
09/19/18 2:01:19 PM
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The Ruler class is more of a judge than a Ruler.
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Mead
09/19/18 2:02:22 PM
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Sandwich Artist named Hilter
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ParanoidObsessive
09/19/18 2:17:51 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Thinking about it some more i suggest a tentacle loli foreigner classed Hitler deriving from his fondness for the supernatural.

He didn't really give a shit about the supernatural, and didn't believe in most of it. Himmler was the one who was obsessed with that sort of thing, and Hitler actually used to kind of look down on him for it (but didn't really call him out on it, because he considered Himmler's skills as head of the secret police to be far more important).

Modern fiction tends to portray the Nazis as a whole as obsessed with that sort of thing, but that was mostly just the SS under Himmler.



Zeus posted...
Many of the other servants were *also* rulers, though. Alexander the Great -- one of history's most famous rulers -- wound up being Rider-class servant.

Yes, but the point is that even Alexander the Great was never literally referred to as "ruler", even when he was basically ruling over a large chunk of the "known world".

Arguably, the sort of figures most likely to be referred to as "Leader" or "Ruler" tend to be the most autocratic tyrants. Whether we're talking about the "Great Leader" of North Korea or the "Leader" (Duce) of facist Italy, or the connotations of supreme rulership that tend to be tied to the "Emperor" title in Asian cultures like China or Japan, there's sort of a line to be drawn by someone who simply leads men into battle or in peace time, and someone who holds a position that essentially represents the incarnation of divine rulership (and whose title literally means "ruler" in their language).


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Viking_Mudcrap
09/19/18 2:58:58 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Yes, but the point is that even Alexander the Great was never literally referred to as "ruler", even when he was basically ruling over a large chunk of the "known world".

Arguably, the sort of figures most likely to be referred to as "Leader" or "Ruler" tend to be the most autocratic tyrants. Whether we're talking about the "Great Leader" of North Korea or the "Leader" (Duce) of facist Italy, or the connotations of supreme rulership that tend to be tied to the "Emperor" title in Asian cultures like China or Japan, there's sort of a line to be drawn by someone who simply leads men into battle or in peace time, and someone who holds a position that essentially represents the incarnation of divine rulership (and whose title literally means "ruler" in their language).


I would imagine being a "Leader" would be the same as a "King" in which they have skills associated with the title.

Imagine, otherwise everyone would be Ruler.
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ParanoidObsessive
09/19/18 7:10:48 PM
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Viking_Mudcrap posted...
I would imagine being a "Leader" would be the same as a "King" in which they have skills associated with the title.

Imagine, otherwise everyone would be Ruler.

Technically, no - king mostly just means "person of noble birth" (later connotations aside).

"Rex" in Latin arguably means ruler, and we tend to translate that forward into English as "king", and there are other rulership titles in other languages that we tend to treat the same way, but etymology is kind of important.

Basically, I'm differentiating between people with titles derived from "power" or "nobility" or "divinity" or "patron" or whathaveyou, as opposed to a literal meaning of "ruler" or "leader" or "commander".


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Viking_Mudcrap
09/20/18 9:58:36 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Viking_Mudcrap posted...
I would imagine being a "Leader" would be the same as a "King" in which they have skills associated with the title.

Imagine, otherwise everyone would be Ruler.

Technically, no - king mostly just means "person of noble birth" (later connotations aside).

"Rex" in Latin arguably means ruler, and we tend to translate that forward into English as "king", and there are other rulership titles in other languages that we tend to treat the same way, but etymology is kind of important.

Basically, I'm differentiating between people with titles derived from "power" or "nobility" or "divinity" or "patron" or whathaveyou, as opposed to a literal meaning of "ruler" or "leader" or "commander".



I get you, but I feel you are going too deep into it. The Ruler class so far has -

Jeanne d'Arc
Shiro Amakusa
Saint Martha
Sherlock Holmes

None of those really fit any of those categories you mention there - plus - the whole Ruler thing is meant as to bring balance to the Holy Grail war if I remember correctly.

Kinda wish I hadn't skipped the summer event - wonder why Martha's class is Ruler.
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Blorfenburger
09/20/18 10:04:04 AM
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Not positive bit I think you guys are talking about magic the gathering. I voted for caster because I think he'd have some kind of fire powers, something to burn his enemies. That something casters can do?
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Viking_Mudcrap
09/20/18 10:05:48 AM
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Blorfenburger posted...
Not positive bit I think you guys are talking about magic the gathering. I voted for caster because I think he'd have some kind of fire powers, something to burn his enemies. That something casters can do?


The Fate Series -

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Fate_series

Essentially historical figures (or whatever lol) are summoned into those classes.

Also, Magic is just a rip-off from Yugioh.
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Blorfenburger
09/20/18 10:09:37 AM
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That link made me even more confused
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Blighboy
09/20/18 10:21:39 AM
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Viking_Mudcrap posted...
Kinda wish I hadn't skipped the summer event - wonder why Martha's class is Ruler.

Saints in general are all supposed to be potential Rulers due to their impartiality.
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Blighboy
09/20/18 10:23:19 AM
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Also Shirou is less a proper Ruler and more of an Einzbern grail war leet hack because that's what they do and the whole point of Fate is to establish rules and then break them.
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ParanoidObsessive
09/20/18 11:35:38 AM
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Viking_Mudcrap posted...
I get you, but I feel you are going too deep into it. The Ruler class so far has -

Yes, but that's why I said:

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Though if you want to go in the context of what the roles actually imply in that universe, he's probably more of an Avenger.


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ReggieTheReckless
09/20/18 1:00:02 PM
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I got really confused why I was seeing all these potd names until I realized I wasn't on the fate: go board...

weird
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Viking_Mudcrap
09/20/18 1:00:37 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
I got really confused why I was seeing all these potd names until I realized I wasn't on the fate: go board...

weird


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Blighboy
09/20/18 1:03:03 PM
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ReggieTheReckless
09/20/18 1:07:17 PM
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Viking_Mudcrap posted...
ReggieTheReckless posted...
I got really confused why I was seeing all these potd names until I realized I wasn't on the fate: go board...

weird


Baby, lets be besties on FGO.

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Viking_Mudcrap
09/20/18 1:12:10 PM
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Blighboy posted...
https://imgur.com/ylk5Gem

come at me bros

check out my sexy gil


Dude that's a nice Gil.

I stupidly used my grails on Karna - but I never intended to Grail Gil. Read somewhere Archers are not a good candidates due to modifiers.

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ReggieTheReckless
09/20/18 1:25:06 PM
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Request accepted. Thanks! I can always use people with better dudes than mine to get past content I'm not ready for, ha
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