Poll of the Day > useless doctors office, i swear

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helIy
09/09/18 4:54:07 PM
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YitSiAX

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rogerskg1979
09/09/18 5:11:49 PM
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It's not uncommon at all for an office to be closed on Sunday.

Like the notice said, call 911 or the ER in case of emergency. (If it's that much of an emergency, you should have done that in the first place.) Non-emergencies can wait until Monday.

I see nothing wrong with this at all. Doctors need days off too. They shouldn't have to work 24/7.
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GanglyKhan
09/09/18 5:12:51 PM
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You can always call your insurance company and go to urgent care.
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helIy
09/09/18 5:24:45 PM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
I see nothing wrong with this at all. Doctors need days off too. They shouldn't have to work 24/7.

yes they should

what else do they have to do
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dedbus
09/09/18 8:31:54 PM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
It's not uncommon at all for an office to be closed on Sunday.

Like the notice said, call 911 or the ER in case of emergency. (If it's that much of an emergency, you should have done that in the first place.) Non-emergencies can wait until Monday.

I see nothing wrong with this at all. Doctors need days off too. They shouldn't have to work 24/7.


You can get a friggin hamburger 24/7 for slave wages. It isn't too much to ask a glorified webmd expert to help you not die in exchange for financial ruination.
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Super_Thug44
09/09/18 8:37:18 PM
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dedbus posted...
rogerskg1979 posted...
It's not uncommon at all for an office to be closed on Sunday.

Like the notice said, call 911 or the ER in case of emergency. (If it's that much of an emergency, you should have done that in the first place.) Non-emergencies can wait until Monday.

I see nothing wrong with this at all. Doctors need days off too. They shouldn't have to work 24/7.


You can get a friggin hamburger 24/7 for slave wages. It isn't too much to ask a glorified webmd expert to help you not die in exchange for financial ruination.


The point is if you think you're in an emergency situation you're not going to be helped by contacting someone online. Even if you were helped, the first piece of advice they'd give you is "go to an urgent care or an emergency room bc I can't help you through a chat window".
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rogerskg1979
09/09/18 8:46:53 PM
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dedbus posted...
You can get a friggin hamburger 24/7 for slave wages. It isn't too much to ask a glorified webmd expert to help you not die in exchange for financial ruination.


Hopefully this is just a troll post, and you don't seriously believe that. There is so much wrong with it.

1) The burger flipper comparison is idiotic. People tend to have one primary care doctor. That person isn't going to be working 24/7. Nobody does that. Yes, you can get a burger 24/7, but it's not the same burger flipper working 24/7. So comparing multiple burger flippers to one doctor is idiotic.

2) Doctors are not glorified webmd experts at all. They go much further beyond that and can give you a proper diagnosis that nobody can actually do themselves. So many people self-diagnosis themselves incorrectly.

3) You're not going to die unless it's an emergency, and if it is an emergency, then you shouldn't be going to a primary care doctor. You should go straight to the ER. Non-emergencies can wait. You're not going to die in a non-emergency.
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Revelation34
09/09/18 8:57:42 PM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
3) You're not going to die unless it's an emergency, and if it is an emergency, then you shouldn't be going to a primary care doctor. You should go straight to the ER. Non-emergencies can wait. You're not going to die in a non-emergency.


You clearly know nothing. Lots of times people think something isn't an emergency but wind up dying.
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dedbus
09/09/18 9:06:13 PM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
people

Are you the NRA of Doctors?
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Greenfox111
09/09/18 9:09:22 PM
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dedbus posted...
rogerskg1979 posted...
It's not uncommon at all for an office to be closed on Sunday.

Like the notice said, call 911 or the ER in case of emergency. (If it's that much of an emergency, you should have done that in the first place.) Non-emergencies can wait until Monday.

I see nothing wrong with this at all. Doctors need days off too. They shouldn't have to work 24/7.


You can get a friggin hamburger 24/7 for slave wages. It isn't too much to ask a glorified webmd expert to help you not die in exchange for financial ruination.

If you think theyre just glorified webmd experts, just use webmd bro
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dedbus
09/09/18 9:17:57 PM
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Have to otherwise they'll just load you up with whatever the drug saleperson hocks to them.
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rogerskg1979
09/09/18 9:19:59 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
rogerskg1979 posted...
3) You're not going to die unless it's an emergency, and if it is an emergency, then you shouldn't be going to a primary care doctor. You should go straight to the ER. Non-emergencies can wait. You're not going to die in a non-emergency.


You clearly know nothing. Lots of times people think something isn't an emergency but wind up dying.


If you think you're going to die within the next 24 hours, then go to the freaking ER. This isn't rocket science. Heck, if you think you're going to die within the next 24 hours, you shouldn't even bother with the primary care doctor at all and just straight to the ER.
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Revelation34
09/09/18 9:20:55 PM
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rogerskg1979 posted...

If you think you're going to die within the next 24 hours, then go to the freaking ER. This isn't rocket science. Heck, if you think you're going to die within the next 24 hours, you shouldn't even bother with the primary care doctor at all and just straight to the ER.


Yet you think my example means the people thought they were going to die.
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Mead
09/09/18 9:27:16 PM
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Are your balls ok
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rogerskg1979
09/09/18 10:15:32 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
rogerskg1979 posted...

If you think you're going to die within the next 24 hours, then go to the freaking ER. This isn't rocket science. Heck, if you think you're going to die within the next 24 hours, you shouldn't even bother with the primary care doctor at all and just straight to the ER.


Yet you think my example means the people thought they were going to die.


If you're so bad off that you're going to die within 24 hours, then you would know it. You would be extremely sick, not just sick.

The things that kill you instantly with no warning are things like heart attacks and strokes. Those aren't thing you make appointments for.

Yes, you can die from non-emergencies, but it's not going to happen overnight. Those are more gradual deaths. That's my entire point.
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SkynyrdRocker
09/09/18 10:17:45 PM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
Revelation34 posted...
rogerskg1979 posted...

If you think you're going to die within the next 24 hours, then go to the freaking ER. This isn't rocket science. Heck, if you think you're going to die within the next 24 hours, you shouldn't even bother with the primary care doctor at all and just straight to the ER.


Yet you think my example means the people thought they were going to die.


If you're so bad off that you're going to die within 24 hours, then you would know it. You would be extremely sick, not just sick.

The things that kill you instantly with no warning are things like heart attacks and strokes. Those aren't thing you make appointments for.

Yes, you can die from non-emergencies, but it's not going to happen overnight. Those are more gradual deaths. That's my entire point.

You are wrong, mkay
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Smarkil
09/09/18 10:24:41 PM
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I have a teledoc service with my insurance so I can skype a doc and show them my balls whenever.
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Revelation34
09/10/18 12:15:00 AM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
If you're so bad off that you're going to die within 24 hours, then you would know it. You would be extremely sick, not just sick.

The things that kill you instantly with no warning are things like heart attacks and strokes. Those aren't thing you make appointments for.

Yes, you can die from non-emergencies, but it's not going to happen overnight. Those are more gradual deaths. That's my entire point.


Great. Now I have to go to the doctor since your ignorance just gave me ass cancer.
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helIy
09/10/18 12:37:14 AM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
If you're so bad off that you're going to die within 24 hours, then you would know it. You would be extremely sick, not just sick.

The things that kill you instantly with no warning are things like heart attacks and strokes. Those aren't thing you make appointments for.

Yes, you can die from non-emergencies, but it's not going to happen overnight. Those are more gradual deaths. That's my entire point.

this whole everything is wrong

you should feel bad

like super bad, i'm talking like crazy terrible
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brandunh11
09/10/18 12:51:45 AM
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helIy
09/10/18 2:02:38 AM
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brandunh11 posted...
Dumb topic

more like your username

mirite
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rogerskg1979
09/10/18 3:06:56 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
rogerskg1979 posted...
If you're so bad off that you're going to die within 24 hours, then you would know it. You would be extremely sick, not just sick.

The things that kill you instantly with no warning are things like heart attacks and strokes. Those aren't thing you make appointments for.

Yes, you can die from non-emergencies, but it's not going to happen overnight. Those are more gradual deaths. That's my entire point.


Great. Now I have to go to the doctor since your ignorance just gave me ass cancer.


Whatever. Anyway, your whole point is moot because the doctor isn't at fault for taking a day off, and that's what this whole topic is really about. You can't expect him to work 24/7 just in the slight chance that you might be dying. Go to the freaking ER if you want help today.

Another thing is that primary care doctors will rarely see you the same day anyway. Usually your appointment is going to be the next day at the earliest.

You make it sound like people are dying from non-emergencies all the time, but it doesn't happen that way in reality.

It's more likely that you would have been sick for days beforehand and are just now going to the doctor. That's your own damn fault for putting it off. You should have called on Friday, not Sunday.

By the way, are you still alive TC or did you die from your non-emergency?
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_AdjI_
09/10/18 3:15:26 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
rogerskg1979 posted...
3) You're not going to die unless it's an emergency, and if it is an emergency, then you shouldn't be going to a primary care doctor. You should go straight to the ER. Non-emergencies can wait. You're not going to die in a non-emergency.


You clearly know nothing. Lots of times people think something isn't an emergency but wind up dying.


In which case scheduling an appointment some time in the next few days isn't likely to make much of a difference. The vast majority of issues that people schedule a doctor visit for are not life-threatening; expecting an immediate appointment on the off chance your particular issue might be is ridiculous.
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likehelly
09/10/18 5:13:18 PM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
By the way, are you still alive TC or did you die from your non-emergency?


i died

and it legitimately was an emergency, thanks
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rogerskg1979
09/10/18 7:38:22 PM
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likehelly posted...
rogerskg1979 posted...
By the way, are you still alive TC or did you die from your non-emergency?


i died

and it legitimately was an emergency, thanks


Then why didn't you go to the emergency room instead of your doctor? Your primary care doctor isn't really suited to handle emergencies. The ER is.
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helIy
09/10/18 10:53:40 PM
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because it's not the kind of emergency the emergency room could do anything about

i broke my vial of insulin, and my pharmacy wasn't letting me pay out of pocket for a new one because i was out of refills and had to have my doctors approval.

i tried going to the emergency room to see if the attending would be able to help me out. they couldn't.
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Greenfox111
09/10/18 11:14:23 PM
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The deepweb probably has some insulin for sale somewhere
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SkynyrdRocker
09/10/18 11:15:34 PM
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Wait so what did you do without insulin? Just hope you didn't need it?
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AC_Dragonfire
09/10/18 11:44:45 PM
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I love how medical places think you're dumb as fuck not to call 911 in case of an emergency. I wonder which political party had to put that shit into law.

OR JUST DRIVE TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE STUPID FUCKING AMBULANCE FUCKERS. Ambulances are usually for older people. Other than that they're good for accidents/violent acts.
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helIy
09/11/18 12:00:32 AM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
Wait so what did you do without insulin? Just hope you didn't need it?

i got some more today since i could actually talk to my doctor, yesterday i just had to watch what i ate moreso than usual.

still, my sugar fucking skyrocketed into the mid 200's and i felt like shit
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SkynyrdRocker
09/11/18 1:14:58 AM
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helIy posted...
SkynyrdRocker posted...
Wait so what did you do without insulin? Just hope you didn't need it?

i got some more today since i could actually talk to my doctor, yesterday i just had to watch what i ate moreso than usual.

still, my sugar fucking skyrocketed into the mid 200's and i felt like shit

That's ridiculous that there's no safety net for if this happens
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helIy
09/11/18 1:41:09 AM
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i could have gone to the er to get an insulin shot if i needed, but i would have ended up paying about 20x the cost of just a full vial of insulin.
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SkynyrdRocker
09/11/18 2:12:52 AM
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Yeah it's fucked up
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rogerskg1979
09/11/18 8:10:38 AM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
helIy posted...
SkynyrdRocker posted...
Wait so what did you do without insulin? Just hope you didn't need it?

i got some more today since i could actually talk to my doctor, yesterday i just had to watch what i ate moreso than usual.

still, my sugar fucking skyrocketed into the mid 200's and i felt like shit

That's ridiculous that there's no safety net for if this happens


There most likely is a safety net. I can't imagine that breaking a vial would be so uncommon that there wouldn't be a procedure for getting it replaced. The TC likely just didn't follow it.

TC, why would you just have one vial? Why wouldn't you have a backup precisely in case something like this happens? Why wouldn't you have refills? Do you literally wait until the last minute to get a refill? A lot of that sounds like it was preventable, and you just didn't do it.

I am on blood pressure medicine, and as soon as my refill counter hits zero, I call up my doctor to get more refills. I don't wait until I have one pill left to get it refilled.
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rogerskg1979
09/11/18 8:12:00 AM
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Greenfox111 posted...
The deepweb probably has some insulin for sale somewhere


I hear ISIS has some "insulin" for you.
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SmokeMassTree
09/11/18 8:18:29 AM
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Anyone surprised heliy is diabetic?
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Dikitain
09/11/18 9:54:48 AM
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Greenfox111 posted...
If you think theyre just glorified webmd experts, just use webmd bro


Truth be told every time I have gone to the doctor in the last 20 years was because webmd said I had something that required a prescription or some kind of procedure to take care of and they were always right. The secret to Webmd is to pay attention to the symptoms and not jump on the first thing it tells you you have.

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wwinterj25
09/11/18 10:12:35 AM
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helIy posted...
because it's not the kind of emergency the emergency room could do anything about


helIy posted...
i could have gone to the er to get an insulin shot if i needed, but i would have ended up paying about 20x the cost of just a full vial of insulin.


So basically you wanted to save cash. Fair, next.
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rogerskg1979
09/11/18 2:32:29 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
helIy posted...
because it's not the kind of emergency the emergency room could do anything about


helIy posted...
i could have gone to the er to get an insulin shot if i needed, but i would have ended up paying about 20x the cost of just a full vial of insulin.


So basically you wanted to save cash. Fair, next.


Plus wouldn't insurance cover insulin anyway? Unless the TC doesn't have insurance, but that is very dumb to have a chronic health condition like diabetes and not have insurance.
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likehelly
09/12/18 10:39:03 AM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
SkynyrdRocker posted...
helIy posted...
SkynyrdRocker posted...
Wait so what did you do without insulin? Just hope you didn't need it?

i got some more today since i could actually talk to my doctor, yesterday i just had to watch what i ate moreso than usual.

still, my sugar fucking skyrocketed into the mid 200's and i felt like shit

That's ridiculous that there's no safety net for if this happens


There most likely is a safety net. I can't imagine that breaking a vial would be so uncommon that there wouldn't be a procedure for getting it replaced. The TC likely just didn't follow it.

TC, why would you just have one vial? Why wouldn't you have a backup precisely in case something like this happens? Why wouldn't you have refills? Do you literally wait until the last minute to get a refill? A lot of that sounds like it was preventable, and you just didn't do it.

I am on blood pressure medicine, and as soon as my refill counter hits zero, I call up my doctor to get more refills. I don't wait until I have one pill left to get it refilled.

why are you fucking annoying

because insurance only covers a month's supply at a time, that means one vial.

because, again, one vial.

because refills run out.

my pharmacy automatically contacts my doctors office when I need a refill and don't have any, and they send over a new prescription. it's not something I need to worry about.

and there is a procedure in place for getting a new one. it's called paying out of pocket, which I've done. and the safety net for if you can't pay out of pocket? the emergency room, where you will pay around $1200 for a shot of insulin. now realize that you have to take it multiple times a day, and emergency room trips often aren't covered under your insurance. and it's stupid paying several. thousand dollars for a few shots when a vial costs about $250.

chill out dude.
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SunWuKung420
09/12/18 11:52:17 AM
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TC

likehelly posted...
chill out dude.

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adjl
09/12/18 12:26:17 PM
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likehelly posted...
because insurance only covers a month's supply at a time, that means one vial.


So why not pay out of pocket for a spare vial to keep around in case of something like this? If the solution to breaking a vial is going to be paying out of pocket anyway, wouldn't that not end up costing you any more? Or does it spoil too quickly for that to be viable?
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likehelly
09/12/18 12:59:10 PM
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adjl posted...
likehelly posted...
because insurance only covers a month's supply at a time, that means one vial.


So why not pay out of pocket for a spare vial to keep around in case of something like this? If the solution to breaking a vial is going to be paying out of pocket anyway, wouldn't that not end up costing you any more? Or does it spoil too quickly for that to be viable?


i have no idea when they go bad

i know that once you open the box, you don't want to use it after some weird number, I think 28 days, but I've had a bottle last longer than that just fine

but it's more that I've been doing this for years now, and this is the first time anything like this happened so there wasn't really a need to have a back up plan in place for something that I never even thought about happening
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rogerskg1979
09/12/18 2:32:25 PM
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You should always have a back up plan. Failing to plan is planning to fail.
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SkynyrdRocker
09/12/18 2:39:57 PM
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Why are you so annoying @rogerskg1979

You don't know what you're talking about and helly has already explained why you're wrong. Sit down son.
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Revelation34
09/12/18 2:56:00 PM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
Failing to plan is planning to fail.


That's an oxymoron since you can't plan something you never planned in the first place.
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SunWuKung420
09/12/18 2:58:20 PM
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likehelly posted...
i have no idea when they go bad


This is something you should know.
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rogerskg1979
09/12/18 3:02:50 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
Why are you so annoying

You don't know what you're talking about and helly has already explained why you're wrong. Sit down son.


Why are you so gullible as to believe everything the TC says. He admitted he doesn't have a back up plan and never considered one, and he doesn't even know if the insulin has an expiration date.

Those are some pretty important things that you should know and discuss with your doctor. A chronic condition that can be very detrimental to your health and can in fact kill you should not be taken lightly. You should discuss every possible thing with your doctor about it.

Diabetes is so common that situations like the TC's situation are almost certainly very common with someone not having an insulin shot on a weekend and can't get it replaced since the doctor's office is closed. I very much doubt however that the only solution is getting a $1,200 shot from the ER. It's probably the only solution the TC is aware of because he has never discussed it with his doctor.

Like I said before, failing to plan is planning to fail, and it doesn't seem like the TC has really thought much about this very serious health condition. That's on him, not on the doctor. You absolutely cannot fault the doctor for taking a Sunday off work. The TC should have planned ahead for crap like this and known what to do about it. Again that's what this whole topic is really about is the TC being pissed that his doctor was closed on Sunday. He should be pissed at himself instead.
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