Board 8 > Fate/Grand Order Topic 12: Chaldea Island Simulator

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Mac Arrowny
08/19/18 10:04:31 PM
#152:


What you want is a Stheno Euryale Euryale stall team
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Tom Bombadil
08/20/18 10:52:50 PM
#153:


"want" is such a strong word although I imagine that would work
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Tom Bombadil
08/21/18 10:55:09 PM
#154:


or I could just go back and do all those extra fights I've never done
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Xuxon
08/23/18 12:13:21 AM
#155:


so i just started playing this. i managed to re-roll for swimsuit Saber (Archuria, as she seems to be called), and also got the featured 5* craft essence (500 atk, start with 50% NP and some other stuff). was doing dailies when maintenance started; i did all the level 5-10 dailies plus the level 25 exp one. nothing past the tutorial in terms of story.

unfortunately my free 4* was Archer, so with all these lances i have to face i've been using Kiyohime as my second character. i got her to level 13 and Archuria to level 20.

any chance i'll be able to max out Chloe from the upcoming event? though i guess she wouldn't really be needed, having Archuria.
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KommunistKoala
08/23/18 12:15:30 AM
#156:


they fill the same niche, yeah, so she's relatively unnecessary for you. It'll be pretty rough clearing enough to unlock her I think because you also have to raise her to her third ascension. If you use good friends characters and a lot of determination maybe, but it won't be easy
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greengravy294
08/23/18 12:18:15 AM
#157:


The good news is you got archer artoria who is cooler than Loli Pink Girl
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Mac Arrowny
08/23/18 12:20:28 AM
#158:


I don't think you have to get her to third ascension to max her out, that's just for some other rewards. Looks like the most difficult one might be "Clear 90 Missions" (there are 100 I think). It'll depend on if you get some good Supports and figure out how to use them effectively.

There's a document in the first post that has our friend codes. I especially recommend friending Lopen since he'll probably get Ilya, and Saphir since he has Medb, and those'll be the two most useful Servants this event (though lots of others will be useful too. Different Servants are useful on every node!).
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Lopen
08/23/18 12:29:08 AM
#159:


Thanks for the plug Mac

I should have a legit whale looking loadout for this event if I have any luck at all.
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Xuxon
08/23/18 12:33:25 AM
#160:


how much quartz do you have saved? or are you spending money?
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Lopen
08/23/18 12:35:12 AM
#161:


I have 822(ish?) Quartz and 40 (41?) Tickets to spend.

I don't spend on this game aside from the guaranteed 5* draws cause the gacha is garbage

Also because there aren't many 5*s I actually give a crap about (hence part of the reason I have so much saved)
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Xuxon
08/23/18 12:38:53 AM
#162:


oh nice. how long saving did it take you to get that much? i was thinking of trying for Tamamo in a couple months but i'm worried that isn't even long enough to have a great shot it.
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Lopen
08/23/18 12:42:32 AM
#163:


I haven't done a quartz draw since like December I think (when Scathach came out). So about that long to get that much quartz (note I didn't quite zero on Scathach think I had 30-60 quartz left). Tickets I save less of because my religion requires me to use 6 Tickets on any banner I don't completely hate so no real idea on how quickly tickets are saved.
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Mac Arrowny
08/23/18 12:49:22 AM
#164:


Xuxon posted...
oh nice. how long saving did it take you to get that much? i was thinking of trying for Tamamo in a couple months but i'm worried that isn't even long enough to have a great shot it.


You'll probably be able to save enough for a 50/50 shot or so, I think. Depending on how much of the story you do. There might be a 1/2 AP story quests coming up soonish, which would help you finish that.
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greengravy294
08/23/18 1:14:29 AM
#165:


I'll be your friend xuxon if you want a bunch of good servants that arent skilled to max but still are good

Dunno if I'm on the doc though
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greengravy294
08/23/18 1:17:39 AM
#166:


Seems I am

Also I nominate Arti as a good friend for the event for his NP2 Sanzang.
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captaincanadian
08/23/18 1:43:43 AM
#167:


don't know if I have anyone here on my friends list but I'm wondering what would generally be a more useful support setup for people

I got Fran recently, and I'm figuring having a Kaleidoscope with her in the berserker support slot would be useful for grinding once she's leveled. I also have a NP2 Vlad and a NP3 Herc that's close-ish to his bond CE (100k or so away). Which would be better to have in the all support slot usually?
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Xuxon
08/23/18 2:55:39 AM
#168:


i'm actually thinking about buying an account so i don't have to wait 9 months for Raikou <_<

though i want to get a better idea if i like the game enough first. and i guess it isn't really necessary when i basically just want two more 5*s and some 4*s. the one account i was looking at did come with a bunch of quartz, though, which would help get Tamamo as i don't see any more rate-ups for her ever after the upcoming one.
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GANON1025
08/23/18 7:50:16 AM
#169:


I like Mini Cu
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Shadow Dino
08/23/18 10:47:03 AM
#170:


My Medb is only lvl 60ish, so might not be as useful. Might pump some off class embers to get her to 70.
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Tom Bombadil
08/23/18 11:26:10 AM
#171:


I just pulled angry mango
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OracleGunner
08/23/18 12:11:58 PM
#172:


I feel like the 4th wall died rather quickly.
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Lopen
08/23/18 2:42:57 PM
#173:


So I've been playing around with the gamepress summon simulator. When I simulate summons with Quartz I seem to get way more of each of the 3 4* focuses compared to Ilya despite their rates actually being identical (due to there being 3 4*s). If I change it over to tickets it's closer to what I expect.

Is this a window into how multisummon guaranteed 4*s work? Is the simulator just broken? Is that actually known or is the simulator speculating?
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Mac Arrowny
08/23/18 2:48:37 PM
#174:


AFAIK they've done tests and the summon rate for 4/5* Servants is basically identical whether you do multis or singles.
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greengravy294
08/23/18 2:48:54 PM
#175:


the game's a scam so i assume the 4* guaranteed is as rigged as it can get
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Lopen
08/23/18 2:51:19 PM
#176:


Okay so basically if you want to use the simulator do your summons in the form of 10x Tickets cause they seem to be rigging that guaranteed draw in a weird way.
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greengravy294
08/23/18 2:53:01 PM
#177:


how about you just spend your damn quartz you coward !!!!!!!!
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Lopen
08/23/18 2:56:02 PM
#178:


Newbie wanted me to stream the draws so I'm going to stream the draws but I can't very well do that at work so I must be a patient man for my adoring fanbase (or hatebase, given said stream is only likely to contain suffering)
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Sceptilesolar
08/23/18 3:33:00 PM
#179:


Lopen posted...
So I've been playing around with the gamepress summon simulator. When I simulate summons with Quartz I seem to get way more of each of the 3 4* focuses compared to Ilya despite their rates actually being identical (due to there being 3 4*s). If I change it over to tickets it's closer to what I expect.

Is this a window into how multisummon guaranteed 4*s work? Is the simulator just broken? Is that actually known or is the simulator speculating?


The data apparently suggests that if you do a 10x Quartz roll, the game determines each result randomly, and then if you don't get any 4*s, it will try to change a 3* CE to a 4* CE. I don't know if gamepress's simulator is based on that assumption though.
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Lopen
08/23/18 3:36:07 PM
#180:


Sceptilesolar posted...
The data apparently suggests that if you do a 10x Quartz roll, the game determines each result randomly, and then if you don't get any 4*s, it will try to change a 3* CE to a 4* CE


Lmao

Literally the least beneficial implementation for the player. Gravy was right.
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Xiahou Shake
08/23/18 6:28:50 PM
#181:


Haha, man, so few people on my friends list have event CEs compared to all the recent events. Guess summer really cleared everyone out! Speaking of which, I made one last desperate attempt at Archuria and did single pulls to zero out my quartz... didn't get her, but I did get NP2 Punch Saint! Actually pretty happy about that, I like her a lot.

Now time to be frugal and start saving for Merlin, him and Gramps back to back is going to be painful. X_X
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GANON1025
08/23/18 8:35:14 PM
#182:


Is there a good guide for this event?
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Tom Bombadil
08/23/18 8:36:14 PM
#183:


My wife did her second(?) ten pull ever and got Ilya

then threatened to feed her to Babbage
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Xuxon
08/23/18 10:19:09 PM
#184:


Lopen posted...
Newbie wanted me to stream the draws so I'm going to stream the draws but I can't very well do that at work so I must be a patient man for my adoring fanbase (or hatebase, given said stream is only likely to contain suffering)

is this happening tonight?
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OracleGunner
08/23/18 10:26:36 PM
#185:


GANON1025 posted...
Is there a good guide for this event?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YCu88VlAfQ6r297LX9XPffNA4ej2R16HtEVM7JVvcqI/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
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Lopen
08/23/18 10:56:55 PM
#186:


Xuxon posted...
Lopen posted...
Newbie wanted me to stream the draws so I'm going to stream the draws but I can't very well do that at work so I must be a patient man for my adoring fanbase (or hatebase, given said stream is only likely to contain suffering)

is this happening tonight?


Tonight. Likely in around 2 hours. I'll post again when it starts.

https://www.twitch.tv/fiveambushers

I'll be taking screenshots of my draws too though so you can get non-live suffering as well.

I'm not really a habitual streamer so don't expect much beyond watching bad draws go at the slowest rate possible (I took so long to save this quartz I'm watching every goddamn animation) and maybe some shouting at Orion when I get her somehow, particularly since it's a work night so I can't get drunk.
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GANON1025
08/23/18 11:38:07 PM
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Lopen
08/24/18 1:07:37 AM
#188:


Okay it's up

https://www.twitch.tv/fiveambushers
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Lopen
08/24/18 4:25:02 AM
#189:


Oh yeah Xuxon I may have accidentally declined your friend request since I deleted a few low levels at once. Send me another one if I did (also tell me what your name is)
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Lopen
08/24/18 2:33:13 PM
#190:


By the way

https://imgur.com/a/b3P524q

There's every draw I made. Minus the tickets and I may have failed to screenshot a draw.

tl;dr


3x Nursery Rhyme
4x Medea Lily
5x Helena Blavatsky (all burned with RAGE for the pleasure of the viewing audience)

6x Miyu CE
1x Limited Zero Over
1x Imaginary Around
2x 500 YEAR OBSESSION (possibly the worst 5* CE)

1x Altria Pendragon (dammit)

And 2x Ilya


Overall I wasn't wowed or disappointed with it. I really wanted 3 though. Ilya is unlikely to get grails without NP3 at least (or until I've gotten all the 3*/4*s I wanna get to 90 to 90). I'll probably dump all the resources I get into the banner until it rotates out (I wouldn't mind NP5 Medea Lily either), then back to saving.
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voltch
08/24/18 2:41:04 PM
#191:


Back to saving for what though
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Tom Bombadil
08/24/18 2:44:05 PM
#192:


man so much there that I want :\
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Xuxon
08/24/18 2:46:58 PM
#193:


i haven't attempted to add anyone yet. i probably won't keep playing and if i do i'll buy that other account.
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Lopen
08/24/18 2:51:16 PM
#194:


Let's see. Draw interest topography is...

Rin + Gorgon banner
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Atalante Alter (NP5 would be slick-- she's only 4* and is the only one on her banner so this isn't an unreasonable goal)
->
Skadi

I could see making a stop at Hijikata "manly as hell" Toshiz if I get too restless since there's a really long space between Rin and Atalante

Also if I fail to get Ilya NP3 before she leaves I may sink some draws into her reappearances when they come. I think I've given up on Tamamo and Gilgamesh. They can come to the elder god tributes if they want to be on my team.
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voltch
08/24/18 2:53:26 PM
#195:


Whoa someone who isn't going after one of the Merlin/Musashi/Hassan trio.
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Lopen
08/24/18 2:56:16 PM
#196:


Hassan and Musashi aren't bad. Hassan I would actually draw for if he were rerun after the more important goals at some point.

To hell with Merlin though.

I might actually put some draws into a Kaleidoscope banner too if one exists and doesn't have total garbo servants on it. Kinda upset I didn't get one of those or a Formalcraft.
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Tom Bombadil
08/25/18 12:20:08 AM
#197:


So do Mash/Medb/etc give bonii to ALL your female servants or just themselves?
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Mac Arrowny
08/25/18 12:27:01 AM
#198:


Just themselves. The 4* Kaleido CEs give bonuses to your female Servants.
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WhiteLens
08/25/18 12:28:08 AM
#199:


Lopen posted...
5x Helena Blavatsky (all burned with RAGE for the pleasure of the viewing audience)

1x Altria Pendragon (dammit)

These two things happening one after the other was easily the highlight of the stream, much to your dismay.
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Tom Bombadil
08/26/18 12:34:09 AM
#200:


sittin on all these exp cards
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Tom Bombadil
08/27/18 7:24:05 AM
#201:


grinding lawful servants
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