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LusterSoldier
08/06/18 9:45:53 PM
#351:


Leonhart4 posted...
Well, there were no other League characters to choose from since the only other one lost in round one.


Draven also had the advantage of getting his first match before Teemo, which may have influence their decision to rally for Draven. It might have been the other way around if Teemo's match happened first.
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XIII_rocks
08/06/18 9:47:35 PM
#352:


Underleveled posted...
Yeah not THAT many Reddit people made accounts and started posting on this board during Draven. It's just that the ones that did were the most insufferable people on earth.


I mean, can you imagine if all or even most of the 75000 of them started posting here? It'd probably crash

Has this board even had 75000 posts this week? This month?
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Team Rocket Elite
08/06/18 9:48:12 PM
#353:


WhiteLens posted...
More like they'd just ignore this site altogether.

"Oh, I have to have an account to vote? Well, whatever I'll just go back to looking at memes."


Most people won't and that's expected. The idea is to create more regular visitors which have much higher value even if it comes at the expense of the one and done voter who never comes back.
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LusterSoldier
08/06/18 9:57:44 PM
#354:


UltimaterializerX posted...
The main net gain in caring about one's own site is increasing traffic. The only real fix is no vote updates or requiring an account to vote. I actually don't mind the latter, since it's the best of both worlds.


No vote updates (not even percentages or Geolocation results) beyond the first 5 minutes would be a good idea to limit rallying, since other sites are less likely to rally if they can't directly observe the impact of their rallying attempts.

Once the match has ended, the final results (including Geolocation results) should be made public.
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WhiteLens
08/06/18 9:57:57 PM
#355:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
WhiteLens posted...
More like they'd just ignore this site altogether.

"Oh, I have to have an account to vote? Well, whatever I'll just go back to looking at memes."


Most people won't and that's expected. The idea is to create more regular visitors which have much higher value even if it comes at the expense of the one and done voter who never comes back.

I don't know, I just feel like the average person can't be bothered to create an account just to vote.

Maybe the 'hardcore' people who really want to get a vote out will, and maybe those people will stick around, which I'm sure is what Allen is hoping for, but I can't imagine that being too many.
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xp1337
08/06/18 10:05:30 PM
#356:


WhiteLens posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
WhiteLens posted...
More like they'd just ignore this site altogether.

"Oh, I have to have an account to vote? Well, whatever I'll just go back to looking at memes."


Most people won't and that's expected. The idea is to create more regular visitors which have much higher value even if it comes at the expense of the one and done voter who never comes back.

I don't know, I just feel like the average person can't be bothered to create an account just to vote.

Maybe the 'hardcore' people who really want to get a vote out will, and maybe those people will stick around, which I'm sure is what Allen is hoping for, but I can't imagine that being too many.

IDK, from Allen's PoV wouldn't that be the best of both worlds?

A rally attempt still likely brings the one-time traffic in. Sure, if the rally post states that you need an account to vote maybe some people don't even follow the link to here, but they might just be curious at how the match is going and still come just to look at that.

Meanwhile, most people can't be bothered to go through the effort to make an account to vote so the actual rally doesn't do much so rally strength is crippled. Meanwhile, those who do care enough to vote anyway create an account and are thus more likely to stay and give sustained traffic.

The votals will be lower than they would have been, but outside this board who would care? I sincerely doubt the site's health is judged by the PotD numbers as opposed to something like unique visitors and they're probably still coming just to check the results
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ZenOfThunder
08/06/18 10:12:46 PM
#357:


we're lucky we're even getting a contest tbqh, i imagine it doesn't drum up that much extra traffic for the site, even with the rallies

the bread and butter of GameFAQs is people googling FAQs and cheats and answers and going to that one page and leaving
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swirIdude
08/06/18 10:38:21 PM
#358:


ZenOfThunder posted...
we're lucky we're even getting a contest tbqh, i imagine it doesn't drum up that much extra traffic for the site, even with the rallies

the bread and butter of GameFAQs is people googling FAQs and cheats and answers and going to that one page and leaving


For sure. If contests were a big traffic driver, we'd still be getting one every year.
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Averia
08/07/18 1:32:38 AM
#359:


I wonder if making the matches order random would prevent efficient organization of rallies.
You could even put random waiting time between matches so that you would never know when the new match would start.

Or if you wanna get ridiculous, matches cut in several 2-3 hours segments that keep getting switched each round until they have done their 24h but that would be really weird.
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spikethedevil
08/07/18 3:56:44 AM
#360:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
I pushed the Draven one from my mind lol. Don't know why nothing was done after that one.


because there were no rules against rallying

what did you expect him to do


Um maybe change the rules after Draven >_> @MoogleKupo141
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The_Ctes
08/07/18 7:45:08 AM
#361:


LusterSoldier posted...
Leonhart4 posted...
Well, there were no other League characters to choose from since the only other one lost in round one.


Draven also had the advantage of getting his first match before Teemo, which may have influence their decision to rally for Draven. It might have been the other way around if Teemo's match happened first.


No, almost everyone hates Teemo.
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tennisboy213
08/07/18 8:17:06 AM
#362:


as much as I hate rallies deciding contests I'd hate much more not being able to see poll updates

random match order doesn't seem like a bad idea though
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NFUN
08/07/18 8:56:44 AM
#363:


captain teemo captain teemo
hup two yes sir
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-hotdogturtle--
08/07/18 11:43:57 AM
#364:


Every match occurs on 2 separate days and the overall results are combined between both of them to determine winners for the next round.
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FlyingForever
08/07/18 12:12:21 PM
#365:


-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Every match occurs on 2 separate days and the overall results are combined between both of them to determine winners for the next round.


But if people could see a close result from day 1 it would sway the day 2 vote?
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LeonhartFour
08/07/18 1:00:15 PM
#366:


every match of each round is running simultaneously but which match you get shows up at random

so we have the first round running for a month but there are 32 matches running at the same time
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Underleveled
08/07/18 1:04:38 PM
#367:


Any matches within 55-45 OR any matches with confirmed rallying/stuffing are decided by a baby crawling to a plushie of each character and picking one.
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FlyingForever
08/07/18 1:05:58 PM
#368:


LeonhartFour posted...
every match of each round is running simultaneously but which match you get shows up at random

so we have the first round running for a month but there are 32 matches running at the same time


That's actually genius
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NFUN
08/07/18 1:27:30 PM
#369:


Underleveled posted...
Any matches within 55-45 OR any matches with confirmed rallying/stuffing are decided by a baby crawling to a plushie of each character and picking one.

That's actually genius
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ZenOfThunder
08/07/18 2:29:55 PM
#370:


Underleveled posted...
Any matches within 55-45 OR any matches with confirmed rallying/stuffing are decided by a baby crawling to a plushie of each character and picking one.


I love this, I want a plushie of Draven
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WhiteLens
08/07/18 2:33:13 PM
#371:


Every match is determined by SBAllen's kids picking who wins.
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AxemRedRanger
08/07/18 2:35:54 PM
#372:


Every match is determined by SBAllen's wi-oh wait.
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-hotdogturtle--
08/07/18 3:49:50 PM
#373:


LeonhartFour posted...
every match of each round is running simultaneously but which match you get shows up at random

Only if they have different rarity levels like trading cards/blind collectable packs. Mario vs. generic 2018 newcomer is a common, but you gotta roll to find the close midcarder matches.
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NFUN
08/07/18 4:05:33 PM
#374:


-hotdogturtle-- posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
every match of each round is running simultaneously but which match you get shows up at random

Only if they have different rarity levels like trading cards/blind collectable packs. Mario vs. generic 2018 newcomer is a common, but you gotta roll to find the close midcarder matches.

Add in a trading economy so that you can trade votes in one match for another. Maybe with some dedicated people you could ruin the economy and get a noble niner defeated early.
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Underleveled
08/07/18 4:19:56 PM
#375:


-hotdogturtle-- posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
every match of each round is running simultaneously but which match you get shows up at random

Only if they have different rarity levels like trading cards/blind collectable packs. Mario vs. generic 2018 newcomer is a common, but you gotta roll to find the close midcarder matches.

This sounds fun but compromises the results.
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ZenOfThunder
08/09/18 11:58:41 AM
#376:


If anyone is in the contest-discussing mood, I am doing an Analysis of the Summer 2013 (the last time we had a character battle!) and I am very underqualified to do so. I'll mostly be making personal anecdotes about what it was like to be on the Board during the Draven Buttdevestation.

Join me here: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76880099
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CelesMyUserName
08/09/18 5:02:11 PM
#377:


@swordz9 posted...
Hikage is my favorite, but Asuka or Yumi would have the best chance probably

whoops forgot to come back but yeah Hikage might be my #2 so I'm game
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swordz9
08/09/18 5:03:00 PM
#378:


Oh ya go Hikage
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ZeldaTPLink
08/10/18 9:35:07 AM
#380:


XIII_rocks posted...
ZenOfThunder posted...
i think a lot of people will just think we're huge weenies

like if you visit a rally discussion thread there's like 99% of the people making fun of us for having a weird hobby


In a huge rally like that, the amount of people posting here or even in the reddit thread about it are a miniscule minority of the overall picture

Draven showed us the absolute dregs of that community, some of its lowest and worst people, not the actual average LoL player who genuinely wouldn't care beyond just clicking the link, voting and moving on. There were like 75000 of them, remember - the people that cared enough to be shitheads about it are a tiny fraction.

So to go back to what Nick said, only revealing results after a match doesn't stop that horde of apathetic "two-clicks-and-gone" voters, but it does stop people on the other side who may see what is happening and attempt to mount a counter-rally.


Your theory is not wrong but I've played LoL and I'm sure there is no gaming comunity more toxic than that one.

Matches are played with teams of 5 players and it's almost impossible to play one without at least one troll in your team.
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INTERWEBUSER
08/11/18 6:50:27 AM
#381:


Can we please not include flagship Nintendo & Square/FF7 characters? If outside web sites cannot participate, it's always Link or Cloud, boring as hell.
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INTERWEBUSER
08/11/18 6:59:20 AM
#382:


Can we please limit characters to ones that debutted after 2000. Tired of Link and Cloud every time.
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LeonhartFour
08/11/18 8:13:56 AM
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ZeldaTPLink
08/11/18 9:00:25 AM
#384:


INTERWEBUSER posted...
Can we please not include flagship Nintendo & Square/FF7 characters? If outside web sites cannot participate, it's always Link or Cloud, boring as hell.


Just because you know the ultimate winner doesn't mean the road isn't fun.
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Xeybozn
08/11/18 10:58:17 AM
#386:


metaIslug posted...
Who would win if it really was limited to 2000 or later?

Without an outside rally, probably Auron.
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ZenOfThunder
08/11/18 11:03:59 AM
#387:


INTERWEBUSER posted...
Can we please limit characters to ones that debutted after 2000. Tired of Link and Cloud every time.


"most popular video game character" is a lot less entertaining with a ton of asterisks

after we find out the best post-2000 character, do we get frustrated that Auron always wins and then make it post-2010? after that do we make it post-2015 and just give it to Shovel Knight or something?
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bwburke94
08/11/18 2:30:13 PM
#388:


ZenOfThunder posted...
after that do we make it post-2015 and just give it to Shovel Knight or something?

Did Shovel Knight predate Undertale?
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_SecretSquirrel
08/11/18 2:49:06 PM
#389:


bwburke94 posted...
ZenOfThunder posted...
after that do we make it post-2015 and just give it to Shovel Knight or something?

Did Shovel Knight predate Undertale?

Yes. Shovel Knight came out the year prior, and Undertale was the newest game in the 2015 contest.
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Tekashi69
08/12/18 9:08:16 AM
#390:


Xeybozn posted...
metaIslug posted...
Who would win if it really was limited to 2000 or later?

Without an outside rally, probably Auron.


Would still be an interesting contest imo
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The_Ctes
08/12/18 9:18:34 AM
#391:


I suppose FF always wins will still be a thing next contest even if it hasn't been true for so long.
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ZeldaTPLink
08/12/18 9:33:05 AM
#392:


Why are people voting this weeb looking swordsman over my mature looking FPS protagonist? What is up with those nerds who spend all their parental basement time playing RPGs instead of shooters? This site is disgusting.
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GTM
08/12/18 2:33:26 PM
#393:


more votes
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MoogleKupo141
08/12/18 2:39:20 PM
#394:


@SBAllen would a fusion of two characters like Vegito (obviously he wouldn't be allowed because he didn't originate in a game count as a separate character for contest purposes

and if yes, would a fusion of two characters who didn't originate in a game, but the fusion did originate in a game be allowed?

reallly I just want to know if Monster Ock, the fusion of Carnage and Doctor Octopus from a PS1 Spider-Man game, is tournament legal
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Nanis23
08/12/18 2:46:57 PM
#395:


Nominiations when
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ZenOfThunder
08/12/18 3:51:02 PM
#397:


absolutely not
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swordz9
08/12/18 5:01:38 PM
#398:


That Moogle post made me realize we could possibly nominate the GREATEST fusion of all time because it originated from a video game. Im taking about Tiencha aka the fusion of Tien and Yamcha. Who wouldnt want Yamcha to win a contest?
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ZeldaTPLink
08/12/18 5:07:44 PM
#399:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
reallly I just want to know if Monster Ock, the fusion of Carnage and Doctor Octopus from a PS1 Spider-Man game, is tournament legal


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why
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MoogleKupo141
08/12/18 6:36:11 PM
#400:


I dunno, seems like a funny weird thing to get into the contest
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