Poll of the Day > When celebrities do heroin...they go to rehab. When normal people do heroin....

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GreenKnight127 07/26/18 9:25:03 PM #1:	...THEY GO TO PRISON!!! Why isn't the media talking about THAT? You know, the bigger and more important issue around the Demi Lovato story? It's always bothered me how we just overlook this kinda stuff. If we are supposed to feel sorry for Demi Lovato....is she going to cooperate with authorities and tell us where she was getting her heroin from? Has anyone even asked her that yet? Who was her dealer? Has that dealer been arrested? Where is the source of the heroin making its way into California? Are the authorities actively taking action to shut it down? Because I don't think they are. I just see headlines saying that she is addicted and how we all need to feel sorry for drug addicts. How even famous, wealthy, attractive celebrities can suffer from "depression". How we never know the true struggle in someone's heart and mind. All this romanticism. But completely overlooking the real issue. Why isn't she in jail? Who was her dealer? Has there even been a criminal investigation of any kind? And, more importantly, why are you triggered by this topic? Because I'm sure some of you are now. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:905780871] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>...THEY GO TO PRISON!!! Why isn't the media talking about THAT? You know, the bigger and more important issue around the Demi Lovato story? It's always bothered me how we just overlook this kinda stuff. If we are supposed to feel sorry for Demi Lovato....is she going to cooperate with authorities and tell us where she was getting her heroin from? Has anyone even asked her that yet? Who was her dealer? Has that dealer been arrested? Where is the source of the heroin making its way into California? Are the authorities actively taking action to shut it down? Because I don't think they are. I just see headlines saying that she is addicted and how we all need to feel sorry for drug addicts. How even famous, wealthy, attractive celebrities can suffer from "depression". How we never know the true struggle in someone's heart and mind. All this romanticism. But completely overlooking the real issue. Why isn't she in jail? Who was her dealer? Has there even been a criminal investigation of any kind? And, more importantly, why are you triggered by this topic? Because I'm sure some of you are now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quol 07/26/18 9:25:48 PM #2:	Lawyers and Money <cite>Quol posted [p:905780917] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>Lawyers and Money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/26/18 9:26:00 PM #3:	Legalize all the drugs. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:905780927] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>Legalize all the drugs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 07/26/18 9:26:32 PM #4:	Quol posted... Lawyers and Money Correct. In other words: the system is flawed and we can't fix it unless we talk about it. The media should be jumping all over this aspect of the story. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:905780961] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Quol posted...</cite> <quote>Lawyers and Money</quote> Correct. In other words: the system is flawed and we can't fix it unless we talk about it. The media should be jumping all over this aspect of the story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 07/26/18 9:27:05 PM #5:	I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage. <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:905780980] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil69Leo 07/26/18 9:29:28 PM #6:	CacciatoPart3 posted... I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage. You have to posses it to use it. It's not like it magically appears in their veins. <cite>Lil69Leo posted [p:905781104] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote>I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage.</quote> You have to posses it to use it. It's not like it magically appears in their veins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 07/26/18 9:32:42 PM #7:	Lil69Leo posted... CacciatoPart3 posted... I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage. You have to posses it to use it. It's not like it magically appears in their veins. Let's put it this way: You use heroin, you OD, the people with you get rid of all the heroin and paraphernalia before the authorities show up, what happens? What's the legal charge? <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:905781267] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil69Leo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote>I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage.</quote> You have to posses it to use it. It's not like it magically appears in their veins.</quote> Let's put it this way: You use heroin, you OD, the people with you get rid of all the heroin and paraphernalia before the authorities show up, what happens? What's the legal charge?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrimCyclone 07/26/18 9:34:16 PM #8:	I already did a setup poll about this to catch selective outrage. Look for the hypocrisy to ensue. --- "When he raises himself up, the mighty fear; Because of the crashing they are bewildered." https://imgur.com/EmR62Z5 <cite>GrimCyclone posted [p:905781348] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>I already did a setup poll about this to catch selective outrage. Look for the hypocrisy to ensue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 07/26/18 9:47:01 PM #9:	CacciatoPart3 posted... Lil69Leo posted... CacciatoPart3 posted... I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage. You have to posses it to use it. It's not like it magically appears in their veins. Let's put it this way: You use heroin, you OD, the people with you get rid of all the heroin and paraphernalia before the authorities show up, what happens? What's the legal charge? Well, what I'm wondering is.....Demi Lovato admitted to being addicted to heroin. And she has even gone to rehab. Now, I'm not a wealthy celebrity....I actually live in the real world.....so I'm not sure exactly how this works. Upon admitting her problem, were the authorities involved in any way? Can you just walk into a rehab clinic with no questions asked? Can the police walk into rehab clinics and ask people questions about the drugs they took, where they got them? What is the name and address of their dealers, etc? Because, the way I see it, being a rational human being.........if cops did that, and people REFUSED to cooperate, they'd be aiding and abetting. Has anyone even asked where Demi Lovato was getting her heroin from? Because I don't think anyone has asked that. And I find that pretty strange. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:905781967] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil69Leo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote>I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage.</quote> You have to posses it to use it. It's not like it magically appears in their veins.</quote> Let's put it this way: You use heroin, you OD, the people with you get rid of all the heroin and paraphernalia before the authorities show up, what happens? What's the legal charge?</quote> Well, what I'm wondering is.....Demi Lovato admitted to being addicted to heroin. And she has even gone to rehab. Now, I'm not a wealthy celebrity....I actually live in the real world.....so I'm not sure exactly how this works. Upon admitting her problem, were the authorities involved in any way? Can you just walk into a rehab clinic with no questions asked? Can the police walk into rehab clinics and ask people questions about the drugs they took, where they got them? What is the name and address of their dealers, etc? Because, the way I see it, being a rational human being.........if cops did that, and people REFUSED to cooperate, they'd be aiding and abetting. Has anyone even asked where Demi Lovato was getting her heroin from? Because I don't think anyone has asked that. And I find that pretty strange.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 07/26/18 9:48:38 PM #10:	cocaine and crack have different punishments. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:905782047] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>cocaine and crack have different punishments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/26/18 10:52:41 PM #11:	lolwut? Literally anybody can go to rehab for drug abuse, assuming they can afford it. With celeb ODs, the cops usually aren't involved at all because somebody else finds the person. The people who get arrested for possession are the guys cops bust buying the stuff or find passed out in a park. Otherwise, there are countless programs now that offer rehab instead of prison (especially for heroin) and it's a growing trend (thanks to propaganda pieces blaming doctors and drug companies for the heroin crisis), so this topic is even stupider. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:905785170] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>lolwut? Literally anybody can go to rehab for drug abuse, assuming they can afford it. With celeb ODs, the cops usually aren't involved at all because somebody else finds the person. The people who get arrested for possession are the guys cops bust buying the stuff or find passed out in a park. Otherwise, there are countless programs now that offer rehab instead of prison (especially for heroin) and it's a growing trend (thanks to propaganda pieces blaming doctors and drug companies for the heroin crisis), so this topic is even stupider.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 07/26/18 10:57:03 PM #12:	If they don't find any drugs or paraphernalia they have nothing to charge you with. And yes, you can just walk into a treatment center with no questions asked. GreenKnight127 posted... Can the police walk into rehab clinics and ask people questions about the drugs they took, where they got them? What is the name and address of their dealers, etc? No, this is completely illegal. Treatment centers are considered medical facilities. You can even evade the police or your parole officer there because they can't come inside and ask if you're a patient there because you have HIPAA rights. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:905785373] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>If they don't find any drugs or paraphernalia they have nothing to charge you with. And yes, you can just walk into a treatment center with no questions asked. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Can the police walk into rehab clinics and ask people questions about the drugs they took, where they got them? What is the name and address of their dealers, etc?</quote> No, this is completely illegal. Treatment centers are considered medical facilities. You can even evade the police or your parole officer there because they can't come inside and ask if you're a patient there because you have HIPAA rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/27/18 12:52:20 AM #13:	no one should go to jail it's a health issue stop buying heroin people gosh <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905790088] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>no one should go to jail it's a health issue stop buying heroin people gosh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/27/18 12:54:37 AM #14:	People get charged when theyre on possession of the drug, not for having it in their system Ive worked in a metro area hospital, there were regularly patients who were addicts and tested positive for pretty much every hard drug --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:905790172] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>People get charged when theyre on possession of the drug, not for having it in their system Ive worked in a metro area hospital, there were regularly patients who were addicts and tested positive for pretty much every hard drug</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatalAccident 07/27/18 12:56:28 AM #15:	Lil69Leo posted... CacciatoPart3 posted... I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage. You have to posses it to use it. It's not like it magically appears in their veins. You only go to prison if they get caught with the shit and all the articles associated with it You dont go to jail just for being a known user, which is what celebrities are. They never really get caught with anything, we just know its one of their habits. And we often find out after theyve checked into rehab voluntarily or been convinced to. Youre getting irate about an injustice that doesnt quite exist really --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:905790230] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil69Leo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote>I thought they went to prison for possession, not usage.</quote> You have to posses it to use it. It's not like it magically appears in their veins.</quote> You only go to prison if they get caught with the shit and all the articles associated with it You dont go to jail just for being a known user, which is what celebrities are. They never really get caught with anything, we just know its one of their habits. And we often find out after theyve checked into rehab voluntarily or been convinced to. Youre getting irate about an injustice that doesnt quite exist really</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/27/18 12:58:56 AM #16:	RoboXgp89 posted... no one should go to jail it's a health issue ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. RoboXgp89 posted... stop buying heroin people gosh Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail! --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:905790312] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>no one should go to jail it's a health issue</quote> ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. <cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>stop buying heroin people gosh </quote> Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Miroku_of_Nite1 07/27/18 12:59:08 AM #17:	GreenKnight127 posted... Where is the source of the heroin making its way into California? Mexico. A lot of it is grown in Mexico these days. Meanwhile Europeans get heroin from Afghanistan. --- https://imgur.com/w3fcH <cite>Miroku_of_Nite1 posted [p:905790317] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the source of the heroin making its way into California?</quote> Mexico. A lot of it is grown in Mexico these days. Meanwhile Europeans get heroin from Afghanistan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keebs05 07/27/18 1:08:28 AM #18:	I've worked in EMS for over a decade and have never seen someone OD and get arrested. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:905790622] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>I've worked in EMS for over a decade and have never seen someone OD and get arrested.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/27/18 1:25:52 AM #19:	Zeus posted... RoboXgp89 posted... no one should go to jail it's a health issue ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. RoboXgp89 posted... stop buying heroin people gosh Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail! what they do with their own body is their own decision i say let them do what they want as long as their drugs are locked up somewhere junkies can hold down jobs it's what they live for does removing them from work and their home help anyone? no <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905791161] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>no one should go to jail it's a health issue</quote> ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. <cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>stop buying heroin people gosh </quote> Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail!</quote> what they do with their own body is their own decision i say let them do what they want as long as their drugs are locked up somewhere junkies can hold down jobs it's what they live for does removing them from work and their home help anyone? no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 07/27/18 1:28:58 AM #20:	RoboXgp89 posted... Zeus posted... RoboXgp89 posted... no one should go to jail it's a health issue ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. RoboXgp89 posted... stop buying heroin people gosh Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail! what they do with their own body is their own decision i say let them do what they want as long as their drugs are locked up somewhere junkies can hold down jobs it's what they live for does removing them from work and their home help anyone? no Please stop posting. <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:905791260] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>no one should go to jail it's a health issue</quote> ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. <cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>stop buying heroin people gosh </quote> Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail!</quote> what they do with their own body is their own decision i say let them do what they want as long as their drugs are locked up somewhere junkies can hold down jobs it's what they live for does removing them from work and their home help anyone? no</quote> Please stop posting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/27/18 1:31:35 AM #21:	Zeus posted... RoboXgp89 posted... no one should go to jail it's a health issue ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. RoboXgp89 posted... stop buying heroin people gosh Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail! Give them education about rehabilitation programs. A lot of addicts want to get clean but they feel helpless or dont know what they can do or who can help them. Its worked in some countries and its worth a shot here considering imprisoning people for drug use hasnt proven to help the matter. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:905791333] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>no one should go to jail it's a health issue</quote> ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. <cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>stop buying heroin people gosh </quote> Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail!</quote> Give them education about rehabilitation programs. A lot of addicts want to get clean but they feel helpless or dont know what they can do or who can help them. Its worked in some countries and its worth a shot here considering imprisoning people for drug use hasnt proven to help the matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 07/27/18 1:32:21 AM #22:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTx-9X3Kr34" data-time=" --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:905791365] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTx-9X3Kr34" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/27/18 1:41:55 AM #23:	CacciatoPart3 posted... RoboXgp89 posted... Zeus posted... RoboXgp89 posted... no one should go to jail it's a health issue ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. RoboXgp89 posted... stop buying heroin people gosh Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail! what they do with their own body is their own decision i say let them do what they want as long as their drugs are locked up somewhere junkies can hold down jobs it's what they live for does removing them from work and their home help anyone? no Please stop posting. I need to go to rehab, I get flu like symptoms when I don't post here and start robbing people <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905791655] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>no one should go to jail it's a health issue</quote> ...well, for starters, you might consider jailing the dealers. Second, you kinda need a jail component for repeat offenders who recognize that there's no tangible punishment for using and are therefore more likely to just pay lipservice to the steps before going back to it. <cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>stop buying heroin people gosh </quote> Oh yeah? How are you going to stop them? Jail them? Good luck, you just said nobody should go to jail!</quote> what they do with their own body is their own decision i say let them do what they want as long as their drugs are locked up somewhere junkies can hold down jobs it's what they live for does removing them from work and their home help anyone? no</quote> Please stop posting.</quote> I need to go to rehab, I get flu like symptoms when I don't post here and start robbing people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunslingerGunsl 07/27/18 1:52:02 AM #24:	Drug addiction is a medical condition. People who seek treatment shouldn't be refused the help they need. They also probably shouldn't have to fear repercussions for asking for help. <cite>GunslingerGunsl posted [p:905791958] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>Drug addiction is a medical condition. People who seek treatment shouldn't be refused the help they need. They also probably shouldn't have to fear repercussions for asking for help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/27/18 1:56:05 AM #25:	Miroku_of_Nite1 posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Where is the source of the heroin making its way into California? Mexico. A lot of it is grown in Mexico these days. Meanwhile Europeans get heroin from Afghanistan. https://imgur.com/LA4rFvl Wait, you mean to say Mexico is bringing drugs and crime? >_> RoboXgp89 posted... what they do with their own body is their own decision i say let them do what they want as long as their drugs are locked up somewhere junkies can hold down jobs it's what they live for does removing them from work and their home help anyone? no Who hurt you? Mead posted... Give them education about rehabilitation programs. A lot of addicts want to get clean but they feel helpless or dont know what they can do or who can help them. Its worked in some countries and its worth a shot here considering imprisoning people for drug use hasnt proven to help the matter. But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better through just rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:905792089] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the source of the heroin making its way into California?</quote> Mexico. A lot of it is grown in Mexico these days. Meanwhile Europeans get heroin from Afghanistan. https://imgur.com/LA4rFvl</quote> Wait, you mean to say Mexico is bringing drugs and crime? >_> <cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>what they do with their own body is their own decision i say let them do what they want as long as their drugs are locked up somewhere junkies can hold down jobs it's what they live for does removing them from work and their home help anyone? no</quote> Who hurt you? <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Give them education about rehabilitation programs. A lot of addicts want to get clean but they feel helpless or dont know what they can do or who can help them. Its worked in some countries and its worth a shot here considering imprisoning people for drug use hasnt proven to help the matter.</quote> But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better through just rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 07/27/18 2:22:38 AM #26:	Can't speak for everywhere, but the DOJ in Oregon more or less doesn't send anyone to prison just for possession of drugs. Also, money and lawyers, as people have said. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:905792839] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>Can't speak for everywhere, but the DOJ in Oregon more or less doesn't send anyone to prison just for possession of drugs. Also, money and lawyers, as people have said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keebs05 07/27/18 2:33:45 AM #27:	Zeus posted... But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better just through rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing. If possible death doesn't discourage usage, I doubt three hots and a cot will. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:905793127] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better just through rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing.</quote> If possible death doesn't discourage usage, I doubt three hots and a cot will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 07/27/18 2:45:01 AM #28:	So let me get this straight: Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place? Demand the identity and location of their dealers. Go to the source. Arrest the bastard. Because while the "victim" might be seeking rehab and can't be arrested.....the DEALER is the one breaking the law. Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings. And if the addicts refuse to give up their dealers........then they are aiding and abetting criminals, which IS an arrestable offense. These pathetic addicts don't get to walk free unless the dealers go down. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:905793446] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>So let me get this straight: Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place? Demand the identity and location of their dealers. Go to the source. Arrest the bastard. Because while the "victim" might be seeking rehab and can't be arrested.....the DEALER is the one breaking the law. Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings. And if the addicts refuse to give up their dealers........then they are aiding and abetting criminals, which IS an arrestable offense. These pathetic addicts don't get to walk free unless the dealers go down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/27/18 2:46:40 AM #29:	GreenKnight127 posted... So let me get this straight: Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place? Demand the identity and location of their dealers. Go to the source. Arrest the bastard. Because while the "victim" might be seeking rehab and can't be arrested.....the DEALER is the one breaking the law. Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings. And if the addicts refuse to give up their dealers........then they are aiding and abetting criminals, which IS an arrestable offense. These pathetic addicts don't get to walk free unless the dealers go down. this kind of thinking is why we have so much fent nowadays, you guys lock up all the H dealers oh yeah and then they go on to re-offend because now they don't have a job or home <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905793499] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>So let me get this straight: Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place? Demand the identity and location of their dealers. Go to the source. Arrest the bastard. Because while the "victim" might be seeking rehab and can't be arrested.....the DEALER is the one breaking the law. Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings. And if the addicts refuse to give up their dealers........then they are aiding and abetting criminals, which IS an arrestable offense. These pathetic addicts don't get to walk free unless the dealers go down.</quote> this kind of thinking is why we have so much fent nowadays, you guys lock up all the H dealers oh yeah and then they go on to re-offend because now they don't have a job or home</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/27/18 2:52:52 AM #30:	Keebs05 posted... Zeus posted... But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better just through rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing. If possible death doesn't discourage usage, I doubt three hots and a cot will. Given that people generally don't believe that an OD will happen to them but worry about prison, I'd say that the latter is probably the more effective threat. GreenKnight127 posted... Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place? ...because the police can't fucking hold them? They aren't being charged with a crime so they don't have to say shit. And do you think they're going to sell out their dealer? GreenKnight127 posted... Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings. No, they obviously can't. That violates all kinds of ethical standards and discourages people from seeking treatment. I mean, wtf, dude? Plus it's not like they don't know who most of the street-level dealers are anyway, especially given how many have priors for dealing. RoboXgp89 posted... this kind of thinking is why we have so much fent nowadays, you guys lock up all the H dealers oh yeah and then they go on to re-offend because now they don't have a job or home ...what? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:905793697] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Keebs05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better just through rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing.</quote> If possible death doesn't discourage usage, I doubt three hots and a cot will.</quote> Given that people generally don't believe that an OD will happen to them but worry about prison, I'd say that the latter is probably the more effective threat. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place?</quote> ...because the police can't fucking hold them? They aren't being charged with a crime so they don't have to say shit. And do you think they're going to sell out their dealer? <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings.</quote> No, they obviously can't. That violates all kinds of ethical standards and discourages people from seeking treatment. I mean, wtf, dude? Plus it's not like they don't know who most of the street-level dealers are anyway, especially given how many have priors for dealing. <cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote> this kind of thinking is why we have so much fent nowadays, you guys lock up all the H dealers oh yeah and then they go on to re-offend because now they don't have a job or home</quote> ...what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 07/27/18 2:55:09 AM #31:	GreenKnight127 posted... why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place? Good chance that they don't know who the dealer is, where to find them, if they're an actual source or just a lone wolf selling stuff they bought from someone else. Not to mention threats of violence. Drug dealers hurt and kill people. People who just possess drugs have enough run-ins with the law to know that just possession isn't going to keep them locked up for very long, whereas they know drug dealers will literally kill people for stealing paltry amounts of money or even intangible things like disrespect. And where do you propose we get the resources to hold all these addicts indefinitely while waiting for them to rat out their dealers? Jails and prisons are already booked to the limit with murderers, rapists, child molesters, batterers, money launderers, identity thieves, dealers who have gotten caught. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:905793772] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place?</quote> Good chance that they don't know who the dealer is, where to find them, if they're an actual source or just a lone wolf selling stuff they bought from someone else. Not to mention threats of violence. Drug dealers hurt and kill people. People who just possess drugs have enough run-ins with the law to know that just possession isn't going to keep them locked up for very long, whereas they know drug dealers will literally kill people for stealing paltry amounts of money or even intangible things like disrespect. And where do you propose we get the resources to hold all these addicts indefinitely while waiting for them to rat out their dealers? Jails and prisons are already booked to the limit with murderers, rapists, child molesters, batterers, money launderers, identity thieves, dealers who have gotten caught.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 07/27/18 3:00:37 AM #32:	Choosing to do illegal drugs leads to a messy and dangerous road. Comes with the territory of deciding to break the law. Cops should have every right to ask these addicts where they got their drugs from. Their name, physical description, contact numbers, etc. If the addict doesn't want to "rat out" their dealer.....then they are aiding and abetting. It's really as simple as that. I'm tired of druggies getting sympathy instead of justice. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:905793909] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>Choosing to do illegal drugs leads to a messy and dangerous road. Comes with the territory of deciding to break the law. Cops should have every right to ask these addicts where they got their drugs from. Their name, physical description, contact numbers, etc. If the addict doesn't want to "rat out" their dealer.....then they are aiding and abetting. It's really as simple as that. I'm tired of druggies getting sympathy instead of justice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 07/27/18 3:06:52 AM #33:	GreenKnight127 posted... Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings. Again, that's illegal. GreenKnight127 posted... I'm tired of druggies getting sympathy instead of justice. No one cares what you think. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:905794144] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings.</quote> Again, that's illegal. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm tired of druggies getting sympathy instead of justice.</quote> No one cares what you think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keebs05 07/27/18 3:07:46 AM #34:	Zeus posted... Keebs05 posted... Zeus posted... But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better just through rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing. If possible death doesn't discourage usage, I doubt three hots and a cot will. Given that people generally don't believe that an OD will happen to them but worry about prison, I'd say that the latter is probably the more effective threat. I can tell you from personal experience that the opposite is true. Almost every OD that I respond to has their own narcan kit now. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:905794177] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Keebs05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better just through rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing.</quote> If possible death doesn't discourage usage, I doubt three hots and a cot will.</quote> Given that people generally don't believe that an OD will happen to them but worry about prison, I'd say that the latter is probably the more effective threat. </quote> I can tell you from personal experience that the opposite is true. Almost every OD that I respond to has their own narcan kit now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keebs05 07/27/18 3:12:54 AM #35:	GreenKnight127 posted... Cops should have every right to ask these addicts where they got their drugs from. Their name, physical description, contact numbers, etc. If the addict doesn't want to "rat out" their dealer.....then they are aiding and abetting. It's really as simple as that. It's no where near as simple as that. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:905794333] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Cops should have every right to ask these addicts where they got their drugs from. Their name, physical description, contact numbers, etc. If the addict doesn't want to "rat out" their dealer.....then they are aiding and abetting. It's really as simple as that.</quote> It's no where near as simple as that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 07/27/18 3:15:55 AM #36:	RoboXgp89 posted... GreenKnight127 posted... So let me get this straight: Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place? Demand the identity and location of their dealers. Go to the source. Arrest the bastard. Because while the "victim" might be seeking rehab and can't be arrested.....the DEALER is the one breaking the law. Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings. And if the addicts refuse to give up their dealers........then they are aiding and abetting criminals, which IS an arrestable offense. These pathetic addicts don't get to walk free unless the dealers go down. this kind of thinking is why we have so much fent nowadays, you guys lock up all the H dealers oh yeah and then they go on to re-offend because now they don't have a job or home Hey, genius, people arent ODing from fentanyl because theyre looking for fentanyl. Theyre ODing from fentanyl because fentanyl is becoming a more common cutting agent. So shut the fuck up and stop saying stupid shit like you have for the last year. And as far as the TCs question is concerned, they can ask where the drugs are coming from, theyre just not necessarily going to get an answer. But based off your previous topics Im concerned on what your hypothetical use for drugs or pheromones might be. <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:905794418] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>So let me get this straight: Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place? Demand the identity and location of their dealers. Go to the source. Arrest the bastard. Because while the "victim" might be seeking rehab and can't be arrested.....the DEALER is the one breaking the law. Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings. And if the addicts refuse to give up their dealers........then they are aiding and abetting criminals, which IS an arrestable offense. These pathetic addicts don't get to walk free unless the dealers go down.</quote> this kind of thinking is why we have so much fent nowadays, you guys lock up all the H dealers oh yeah and then they go on to re-offend because now they don't have a job or home</quote> Hey, genius, people arent ODing from fentanyl because theyre looking for fentanyl. Theyre ODing from fentanyl because fentanyl is becoming a more common cutting agent. So shut the fuck up and stop saying stupid shit like you have for the last year. And as far as the TCs question is concerned, they can ask where the drugs are coming from, theyre just not necessarily going to get an answer. But based off your previous topics Im concerned on what your hypothetical use for drugs or pheromones might be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/27/18 3:18:11 AM #37:	people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta you made up to feel important try posting on gamefaqs more I'm sure someone in their mothers basement will agree <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905794482] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta you made up to feel important try posting on gamefaqs more I'm sure someone in their mothers basement will agree</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 07/27/18 3:19:16 AM #38:	RoboXgp89 posted... butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post. <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:905794509] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes</quote> I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/27/18 3:21:42 AM #39:	CacciatoPart3 posted... RoboXgp89 posted... butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post. try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905794569] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes</quote> I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post.</quote> try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/27/18 3:22:18 AM #40:	RoboXgp89 posted... CacciatoPart3 posted... RoboXgp89 posted... butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post. try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail "Celebrity" is not a race. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:905794589] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes</quote> I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post.</quote> try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail</quote> "Celebrity" is not a race.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/27/18 3:23:41 AM #41:	Kyuubi4269 posted... RoboXgp89 posted... CacciatoPart3 posted... RoboXgp89 posted... butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post. try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail "Celebrity" is not a race. the point still stands it's a health issue and if I was a cop I'd throw away their drugs and send them to rehab or something jail is for people who commit non-consensual crimes litterally every topic being upvoted on reddit says that we need more health services to keep people from commiting crimes <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905794616] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes</quote> I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post.</quote> try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail</quote> "Celebrity" is not a race.</quote> the point still stands it's a health issue and if I was a cop I'd throw away their drugs and send them to rehab or something jail is for people who commit non-consensual crimes litterally every topic being upvoted on reddit says that we need more health services to keep people from commiting crimes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 07/27/18 3:24:59 AM #42:	RoboXgp89 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... RoboXgp89 posted... CacciatoPart3 posted... RoboXgp89 posted... butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post. try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail "Celebrity" is not a race. the point still stands it's a health issue and if I was a cop I'd throw away their drugs and send them to rehab or something jail is for people who commit non-consensual crimes Man you really had to re-edit that lmao <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:905794659] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes</quote> I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post.</quote> try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail</quote> "Celebrity" is not a race.</quote> the point still stands it's a health issue and if I was a cop I'd throw away their drugs and send them to rehab or something jail is for people who commit non-consensual crimes</quote> Man you really had to re-edit that lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keebs05 07/27/18 3:26:25 AM #43:	RoboXgp89 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... RoboXgp89 posted... CacciatoPart3 posted... RoboXgp89 posted... butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post. try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail "Celebrity" is not a race. the point still stands it's a health issue and if I was a cop I'd throw away their drugs and send them to rehab or something jail is for people who commit non-consensual crimes Police can't force somebody into rehab. They can be forced to go to the hospital but not an actual rehab program. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:905794702] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>butthurt that people are using painkillers when doctors make them so hard to access or make them addicted in the first place nothing you say has anything to do with reality it's just a personal vendetta because you can't own up to your own stupid mistakes</quote> I literally have no fucking clue what youre trying to say with that ridiculous, incoherent post.</quote> try reading the topic title more we're talking about how when people abuse painkillers they're more likely to get treatment if they fall into a certain economic class/race rather than go to jail</quote> "Celebrity" is not a race.</quote> the point still stands it's a health issue and if I was a cop I'd throw away their drugs and send them to rehab or something jail is for people who commit non-consensual crimes</quote> Police can't force somebody into rehab. They can be forced to go to the hospital but not an actual rehab program.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/27/18 3:27:26 AM #44:	RoboXgp89 posted... the point still stands it's a health issue and if I was a cop I'd throw away their drugs and send them to rehab or something I wasn't arguing with that, just don't appreciate the reference to intersectional oppression Olympics. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:905794725] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>the point still stands it's a health issue and if I was a cop I'd throw away their drugs and send them to rehab or something</quote> I wasn't arguing with that, just don't appreciate the reference to intersectional oppression Olympics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/27/18 3:31:11 AM #45:	I mean yeah If I caught a celebrity doing drugs id' probably see if they wanted to hang out and do drugs later <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905794816] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>I mean yeah If I caught a celebrity doing drugs id' probably see if they wanted to hang out and do drugs later</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 07/27/18 3:35:13 AM #46:	Keebs05 posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Cops should have every right to ask these addicts where they got their drugs from. Their name, physical description, contact numbers, etc. If the addict doesn't want to "rat out" their dealer.....then they are aiding and abetting. It's really as simple as that. It's no where near as simple as that. Of course it is. It's only "complicated" when the media focuses on the emotional aspect of it all. And Hollywood's romanticism of drug-use doesn't help. Hunt the dealers down. Make them pay. If the buyers don't want to give up their dealers, then they are aiding and abetting. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:905794922] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Keebs05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Cops should have every right to ask these addicts where they got their drugs from. Their name, physical description, contact numbers, etc. If the addict doesn't want to "rat out" their dealer.....then they are aiding and abetting. It's really as simple as that.</quote> It's no where near as simple as that.</quote> Of course it is. It's only "complicated" when the media focuses on the emotional aspect of it all. And Hollywood's romanticism of drug-use doesn't help. Hunt the dealers down. Make them pay. If the buyers don't want to give up their dealers, then they are aiding and abetting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 07/27/18 3:44:51 AM #47:	GreenKnight127 posted... Of course it is. It isn't. Fucking read. Rasmoh posted... Good chance that they don't know who the dealer is, where to find them, if they're an actual source or just a lone wolf selling stuff they bought from someone else. Not to mention threats of violence. Drug dealers hurt and kill people. People who just possess drugs have enough run-ins with the law to know that just possession isn't going to keep them locked up for very long, whereas they know drug dealers will literally kill people for stealing paltry amounts of money or even intangible things like disrespect. And where do you propose we get the resources to hold all these addicts indefinitely while waiting for them to rat out their dealers? Jails and prisons are already booked to the limit with murderers, rapists, child molesters, batterers, money launderers, identity thieves, dealers who have gotten caught. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:905795177] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Of course it is.</quote> It isn't. Fucking read. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Good chance that they don't know who the dealer is, where to find them, if they're an actual source or just a lone wolf selling stuff they bought from someone else. Not to mention threats of violence. Drug dealers hurt and kill people. People who just possess drugs have enough run-ins with the law to know that just possession isn't going to keep them locked up for very long, whereas they know drug dealers will literally kill people for stealing paltry amounts of money or even intangible things like disrespect. And where do you propose we get the resources to hold all these addicts indefinitely while waiting for them to rat out their dealers? Jails and prisons are already booked to the limit with murderers, rapists, child molesters, batterers, money launderers, identity thieves, dealers who have gotten caught.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keebs05 07/27/18 3:50:21 AM #49:	GreenKnight127 posted... If the buyers don't want to give up their dealers, then they are aiding and abetting. Who did they "aid and abet?" How do you know that the drugs were purchased by a user? How do you know that the drugs were purchased at all? The first element for a charge of aiding and abetting is the commission of a crime. You don't even know that a drug deal went down. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:905795326] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>If the buyers don't want to give up their dealers, then they are aiding and abetting.</quote> Who did they "aid and abet?" How do you know that the drugs were purchased by a user? How do you know that the drugs were purchased at all? The first element for a charge of aiding and abetting is the commission of a crime. You don't even know that a drug deal went down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/27/18 3:51:08 AM #50:	"dangerous people" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ZFzEW7_Q4" data-time=" <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905795347] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote>"dangerous people" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ZFzEW7_Q4" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/27/18 4:51:41 AM #51:	Keebs05 posted... Who did they "aid and abet?" How do you know that the drugs were purchased by a user? How do you know that the drugs were purchased at all? This is pretty simple, if they did not get it elsewhere then they're a producer and so can be arrested for a loooong time. If they don't reveal their supplier then they helped the dealer commit a crime (supplying them). --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:905796640] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Keebs05 posted...</cite> <quote>Who did they "aid and abet?" How do you know that the drugs were purchased by a user? How do you know that the drugs were purchased at all?</quote> This is pretty simple, if they did not get it elsewhere then they're a producer and so can be arrested for a loooong time. If they don't reveal their supplier then they helped the dealer commit a crime (supplying them).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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