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Topic	When celebrities do heroin...they go to rehab. When normal people do heroin....
Zeus 07/27/18 2:52:52 AM #30:	Keebs05 posted... Zeus posted... But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better just through rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing. If possible death doesn't discourage usage, I doubt three hots and a cot will. Given that people generally don't believe that an OD will happen to them but worry about prison, I'd say that the latter is probably the more effective threat. GreenKnight127 posted... Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place? ...because the police can't fucking hold them? They aren't being charged with a crime so they don't have to say shit. And do you think they're going to sell out their dealer? GreenKnight127 posted... Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings. No, they obviously can't. That violates all kinds of ethical standards and discourages people from seeking treatment. I mean, wtf, dude? Plus it's not like they don't know who most of the street-level dealers are anyway, especially given how many have priors for dealing. RoboXgp89 posted... this kind of thinking is why we have so much fent nowadays, you guys lock up all the H dealers oh yeah and then they go on to re-offend because now they don't have a job or home ...what? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:905793697] in When celeb... [t:76844877]...</cite> <quote><cite>Keebs05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>But I'm not talking about the guys who can get better just through rehab, I'm talking about repeat offenders who, in the absence of any punitive enforcement mechanism, go through the motions, get clean, and then just re-offend (possibly even killing themselves because their immunity has been reset). Obviously rehab needs to be on the table -- after all, the whole point of the prison system should be to rehab criminals for general society -- but it seems like you need at least some punitive measure to discourage usage as well. It's not really an either/or thing.</quote> If possible death doesn't discourage usage, I doubt three hots and a cot will.</quote> Given that people generally don't believe that an OD will happen to them but worry about prison, I'd say that the latter is probably the more effective threat. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Selling, purchasing, and possessing hard drugs like cocaine and heroin is illegal, yes? But just having them in your system and being addicted is perfectly legal and you can seek treatment and not have to fear legal repercussions, yes? So if a person who has drugs in their system can't be arrested.............why in the hell can't the police interrogate these people and demand to know where they got their drugs from in the first place?</quote> ...because the police can't fucking hold them? They aren't being charged with a crime so they don't have to say shit. And do you think they're going to sell out their dealer? <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Can't cops do that? There should be cops at every rehab clinic, interviewing everyone. Doing investigations. Setting up stings.</quote> No, they obviously can't. That violates all kinds of ethical standards and discourages people from seeking treatment. I mean, wtf, dude? Plus it's not like they don't know who most of the street-level dealers are anyway, especially given how many have priors for dealing. <cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote> this kind of thinking is why we have so much fent nowadays, you guys lock up all the H dealers oh yeah and then they go on to re-offend because now they don't have a job or home</quote> ...what? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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