Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 185: Doubly Negative

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ProkhorZakharov
07/27/18 9:21:30 AM
#302:


Alpha Centauri is not an instruction manual

"In the great commons at Gaia's Landing we have a tall and particularly beautiful stand of white pine, planted at the time of the first colonies. It represents our promise to the people, and to Planet itself, never to repeat the tragedy of Earth."

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Peace___Frog
07/27/18 9:30:06 AM
#303:


Yeah, Republican congressmen do need to fuck off and die
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metroid composite
07/27/18 9:56:34 AM
#304:


Maniac64 posted...
Rural towns don't have the same struggles as cities. If someone needs welfare they are more likely to get help from neighbors and family living nearby. They have a stronger belief in taking care of each other/their own.

In addition rural areas are struggling because people are moving to the cities which can cause increased resentment towards cities and policies that favor cities. Which includes a lot of government spending.

I have family that lives in rural Canada, and...that's kind of half-right, but also kind-of not.

It's more like people who fall on hard times go to the city where there are things like homeless shelters and they won't freeze to death. If you can't pull your own weight you get kicked off the rural island.

But there is definitely a culture against getting help from the government. Like...my grandpa did not want my mom getting a scholarship (but she did in secret and did not tell him). Kind of "do it yourself" taken to extremes.
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HashtagSEP
07/27/18 9:59:53 AM
#305:


Where I live in middle of nowhere Kentucky, people abuse government programs but then get really pissed off when anybody else is also on government programs

Person 1: On disability
Person 2: Starts on disability
Person 1: "That's such bullshit. They don't need it. These government handouts are ruining the country. I hope they get rid of it. Don't worry, they won't take mine away, just everybody else."
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Kenri
07/27/18 11:13:37 AM
#306:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
I feel like I still don't fundamentally understand why rural/farming america skews so heavily republican.

It doesn't, really. Not directly, at least. Rural/farming America skews heavily white and white people skew heavily Republican.
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Peace___Frog
07/27/18 11:21:23 AM
#307:


HashtagSEP posted...
Where I live in middle of nowhere Kentucky, people abuse government programs but then get really pissed off when anybody else is also on government programs

Person 1: On disability
Person 2: Starts on disability
Person 1: "That's such bullshit. They don't need it. These government handouts are ruining the country. I hope they get rid of it. Don't worry, they won't take mine away, just everybody else."

Yeah, this is my experience with rural America, too. Government assistance is bad only when it helps people who don't need it - which is everyone except me.
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KamikazePotato
07/27/18 11:25:42 AM
#308:


HashtagSEP posted...
Where I live in middle of nowhere Kentucky, people abuse government programs but then get really pissed off when anybody else is also on government programs

Person 1: On disability
Person 2: Starts on disability
Person 1: "That's such bullshit. They don't need it. These government handouts are ruining the country. I hope they get rid of it. Don't worry, they won't take mine away, just everybody else."

Painfully accurate
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LapisLazuli
07/27/18 11:32:50 AM
#309:


"I didn't think they would deport MY mexican gardener!"
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KamikazePotato
07/27/18 11:39:32 AM
#310:


HaRRicH posted...
Good and all that, but man, how much more obvious does it have to be?

If this were somehow a 'normal' court case, you could probably already indict Trump. This isn't a normal case though. At this point it's more about swaying the public opinion than anything else, because that's the only way an impeachment can happen. To do that you either need to create an EXTREMELY ironclad case...or just rile up the populace with something that sounds scandalous in a 'fun' way (like a Hollywood scandal, essentially).
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XIII_rocks
07/27/18 12:15:37 PM
#311:


KamikazePotato posted...
To do that you either need to create an EXTREMELY ironclad case


This wouldn't matter
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HanOfTheNekos
07/27/18 12:16:07 PM
#312:


Reg posted...
Republicans are trying to gut the Endangered Species Act

Why?

(Source, since I posted initially as a stunned reaction to CBS anchors talking about it

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/endangered-species-act-republicans-pushing-overhaul-before-midterm-elections/

The Endangered Species Act is credited with bringing grey wolves, Florida manatees and the humpback whale back from the brink of extinction. Still, Utah Republican Rob Bishop says the act is broken.

"All we are doing is making lists of species. We are not really rehabilitating them," Bishop told CBS News' Nancy Cordes.

One of his bills would require the government to consider not just science but the cost to business before adding a new animal to the list.


Is it inappropriate to say "fuck off and die"? Because I really, really wanna say that to this piece of shit.


AND THE BALD EAGLE

Just point out the eagles would die without it, and get those fuckers to shut up

I have something to offer about rural areas, but later.
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KamikazePotato
07/27/18 1:37:12 PM
#313:


XIII_rocks posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
To do that you either need to create an EXTREMELY ironclad case


This wouldn't matter

I'm talking like, voice recordings level of ironclad. Doubt we'll be that fortunate though.
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HashtagSEP
07/27/18 1:44:24 PM
#314:


KamikazePotato posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
To do that you either need to create an EXTREMELY ironclad case


This wouldn't matter

I'm talking like, voice recordings level of ironclad. Doubt we'll be that fortunate though.


Trump could shoot a guy in front of Congress and they still wouldn't do anything unless public outcry was loud enough

Trump can get away with anything he wants as long as Republican voters still shout MAGA
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SupremeZero
07/27/18 2:32:01 PM
#315:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Reg posted...
Republicans are trying to gut the Endangered Species Act

Why?

(Source, since I posted initially as a stunned reaction to CBS anchors talking about it

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/endangered-species-act-republicans-pushing-overhaul-before-midterm-elections/

The Endangered Species Act is credited with bringing grey wolves, Florida manatees and the humpback whale back from the brink of extinction. Still, Utah Republican Rob Bishop says the act is broken.

"All we are doing is making lists of species. We are not really rehabilitating them," Bishop told CBS News' Nancy Cordes.

One of his bills would require the government to consider not just science but the cost to business before adding a new animal to the list.


Is it inappropriate to say "fuck off and die"? Because I really, really wanna say that to this piece of shit.


AND THE BALD EAGLE

Just point out the eagles would die without it, and get those fuckers to shut up

I have something to offer about rural areas, but later.

Bald Eagles haven't been endangered in over 10 years.
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LordoftheMorons
07/27/18 6:05:38 PM
#316:


New from Ronan Farrow:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/08/06/les-moonves-and-cbs-face-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct
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HanOfTheNekos
07/27/18 6:11:58 PM
#317:


SupremeZero posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Reg posted...
Republicans are trying to gut the Endangered Species Act

Why?

(Source, since I posted initially as a stunned reaction to CBS anchors talking about it

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/endangered-species-act-republicans-pushing-overhaul-before-midterm-elections/

The Endangered Species Act is credited with bringing grey wolves, Florida manatees and the humpback whale back from the brink of extinction. Still, Utah Republican Rob Bishop says the act is broken.

"All we are doing is making lists of species. We are not really rehabilitating them," Bishop told CBS News' Nancy Cordes.

One of his bills would require the government to consider not just science but the cost to business before adding a new animal to the list.


Is it inappropriate to say "fuck off and die"? Because I really, really wanna say that to this piece of shit.


AND THE BALD EAGLE

Just point out the eagles would die without it, and get those fuckers to shut up

I have something to offer about rural areas, but later.

Bald Eagles haven't been endangered in over 10 years.


I know! We're talking about species that were saved.
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xp1337
07/27/18 9:18:39 PM
#318:


This is horrible beyond words.

https://twitter.com/ZoeSCarpenter/status/1022966162949169152
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TheRock1525
07/27/18 11:42:06 PM
#319:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/business-tax-payments-plunge-workers-pay-185504363.html

I'm sure Corrik will be able to explain this.
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trdl23
07/27/18 11:42:52 PM
#320:


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/michigan-gerrymandering.html

Gerrymandering? In MY state?! Well, yeah, it was obvious to everyone, but now we actually caught the fuckers without any plausible deniability. I really hope the independent commission ballot question goes through and cuts this shit out.
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Kenri
07/27/18 11:47:18 PM
#321:


TheRock1525 posted...
I'm sure Corrik will be able to explain this.

just read the yahoo comments if you want corrik-level analysis
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TheRock1525
07/28/18 1:53:25 AM
#322:


It's been over a year since John McCain was diagnosed with brain cancer.

What a tough motherfucker.
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LordoftheMorons
07/28/18 2:13:50 AM
#323:


And Trump still mocks the thumbs down to this day!
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LordoftheMorons
07/28/18 4:54:28 PM
#324:


This is pretty clever:
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/07/27/us/indianapolis-church-immigration-mirror-trnd/index.html
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pxlated
07/29/18 8:41:10 AM
#325:


What do you all think about Jimmy dore/his perspective
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Suprak the Stud
07/29/18 12:48:11 PM
#326:


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/29/politics/donald-trump-shutdown-wall/index.html

If you dont buy me this samurai sword I want I will punch myself in the face!
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Not_an_Owl
07/29/18 1:01:48 PM
#327:


Suprak the Stud posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/29/politics/donald-trump-shutdown-wall/index.html

If you dont buy me this samurai sword I want I will punch myself in the face!

Oh my god, he wants to shut down the government in September? With his own party in control of both houses? It's like he's actively campaigning for Democrats at this point.
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LapisLazuli
07/29/18 1:09:10 PM
#328:


Trump is doing everything in his power to create a miracle where the Dems take both houses so that he can claim whatever happens over the next 2 years isn't his fault.
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Suprak the Stud
07/29/18 1:36:34 PM
#329:


There is zero percent chance he follows through with it because the people around him aren't that dumb. I've been wrong about Trump going Leroy Jenkins before, but this would be too far even for him. I think.

But that's what makes it such a dumb threat. Like...do it. Go ahead. It literally makes you and your party look worse to everyone but your most rabid base.
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Corrik
07/29/18 3:33:16 PM
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Suprak the Stud
07/29/18 4:38:30 PM
#331:


Corrik posted...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-is-losing-the-trade-war-with-trump-1532729725


I am opposed to tariffs on general principle.

BUT if he can partner with the EU and stop engaging our allies in antagonistic trade practices, I think singling out China could go very well. It was the same sort of idea Obama had with TPP although the methods were obviously much different.

Also just a reminder to myself to read the full article when Im at work since Ill have access.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/29/18 4:50:56 PM
#332:


New rule: Lets not engage posts with links to opinion articles with zero analysis or attempt for a good faith discussion.
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Suprak the Stud
07/29/18 5:02:33 PM
#333:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
New rule: Lets not engage posts with links to opinion articles with zero analysis or attempt for a good faith discussion.


I actually think its worth discussing though.

Except its behind a paywall and I doubt most people here can read it.
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LapisLazuli
07/29/18 5:03:26 PM
#334:


But if he can't post empty opinion articles then he doesn't have anything left to post.
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Suprak the Stud
07/29/18 5:03:37 PM
#335:


Also

New rule: Bill Maher is an untalented humorless hack and any suggestion that references him or his bits in any way should also not be engaged.
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Reg
07/29/18 5:03:42 PM
#336:


Suprak the Stud posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
New rule: Lets not engage posts with links to opinion articles with zero analysis or attempt for a good faith discussion.


I actually think its worth discussing though.

Except its behind a paywall and I doubt most people here can read it.

Honestly the subtitle of the article is all the evidence I need to know that it's garbage.

Its like a drinking contest: You harm yourself and hope your opponent isnt able to withstand as much.

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TheRock1525
07/29/18 5:04:01 PM
#337:


Suprak the Stud posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
New rule: Lets not engage posts with links to opinion articles with zero analysis or attempt for a good faith discussion.


I actually think its worth discussing though.

Except its behind a paywall and I doubt most people here can read it.


Hey, not all of us are illiterate.
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Suprak the Stud
07/29/18 5:05:16 PM
#338:


TheRock1525 posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
New rule: Lets not engage posts with links to opinion articles with zero analysis or attempt for a good faith discussion.


I actually think its worth discussing though.

Except its behind a paywall and I doubt most people here can read it.


Hey, not all of us are illiterate.


Speak for yourself, NERD
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ChaosTonyV4
07/29/18 5:15:32 PM
#339:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Also

New rule: Bill Maher is an untalented humorless hack and any suggestion that references him or his bits in any way should also not be engaged.


Lol I 100% didnt even consider Maher when I said that, I just unconsciously took his schtick.

Edit: Deleted second post because I found what I was looking for, lol
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Suprak the Stud
07/29/18 5:32:50 PM
#341:


Sorry I just have an irrational hatred of Bill Maher.
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Jakyl25
07/29/18 5:37:48 PM
#342:


No hatred of Mahar is irrational
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Corrik
07/29/18 5:46:49 PM
#343:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Corrik posted...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-is-losing-the-trade-war-with-trump-1532729725


I am opposed to tariffs on general principle.

BUT if he can partner with the EU and stop engaging our allies in antagonistic trade practices, I think singling out China could go very well. It was the same sort of idea Obama had with TPP although the methods were obviously much different.

Also just a reminder to myself to read the full article when Im at work since Ill have access.

I just wonder if this always needed to be done to change the status quo and too many times presidents were more worried about pissing people off to do it.

If they are only happy when they are benefitting off of you, are they really your friends?

Do you like being friends with someone who only calls you when they need something and never else?
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UltiXX
07/29/18 5:55:45 PM
#344:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Also

New rule: Bill Maher is an untalented humorless hack and any suggestion that references him or his bits in any way should also not be engaged.

Whats wrong with Bill Mahr? Dude is hilarious.

Does the left hate him because he hates Islam? Real question.
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Jakyl25
07/29/18 6:05:12 PM
#345:


His Islamophobia is a very big reason why I dislike him, yes. Also the transphobia and history of homophobia.
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Jakyl25
07/29/18 6:09:04 PM
#346:


Wait WTF are you doing in here? Out
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UltiXX
07/29/18 6:14:38 PM
#347:


Jakyl25 posted...
His Islamophobia is a very big reason why I dislike him, yes. Also the transphobia and history of homophobia.

Oh so its because hes an actual democrat and not a radicalized crazy person, as I suspected.

This is why you leftists are losing so bad and will continue to get shit on until youre once again the party of the people.
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LapisLazuli
07/29/18 6:22:44 PM
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Corrik
07/29/18 6:26:59 PM
#349:


Suprak unfortunately becoming one of them with the do not engage crap. Was bound to rub off on you eventually. = /
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Suprak the Stud
07/29/18 6:36:02 PM
#350:


Corrik posted...
Suprak unfortunately becoming one of them with the do not engage crap. Was bound to rub off on you eventually. = /


Where did I ever say that?

I was the one that said it was worth discussing!

@Corrik is literally fake news. SAD!
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Metal_DK
07/29/18 6:37:12 PM
#351:


I would love to see divorce rates matched up with that precinct map posted a few pages ago. I was looking at marriage and divorce records at my job for a recent project, and 14 of the 15 states with the highest divorce rates per capita went to Trump, and the 1 state that didn't was Nevada....aka Vegas.
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Corrik
07/29/18 7:11:57 PM
#352:


UltiXX posted...
@Suprak_the_Stud posted...
Also

New rule: Bill Maher is an untalented humorless hack and any suggestion that references him or his bits in any way should also not be engaged.

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