Poll of the Day > So when Trump brings in New Judges and repeal Legal Abortions...

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Will all Women in the USA take refuge in Canada?
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we need to build a wall to keep the americans out
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American woman: stay away from me.
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I find it hilarious that people think that abortion is actually going to be made illegal
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XlaxJynx007 posted...

I find it hilarious that people think that abortion is actually going to be made illegal

LOL yeah

Also the USA will never put children in cages.


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Yes all women love killing babies

ThickDaddy posted...

Yes all women love killing babies

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States

Only 45 million babies
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Canada will warmly welcome all of these women. Except if they're white.

They need to check their privilege and give all the minority women their safe spaces.
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Delicinq4 posted...

that exists as a consequence of their ill-thought out promiscuity.

[Citation needed]
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Delicinq4 posted...

The important thing is that women must always have the right to choose to kill the living baby inside of them that exists as a consequence of their ill-thought out promiscuity.

Found the incel
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adjl posted...

Delicinq4 posted...

that exists as a consequence of their ill-thought out promiscuity.

[Citation needed]

You don't need to cite horrible opinions

I'm not against abortion, but it sure does highlight the sad state of affairs when the far and away #1 most important issue among female voters is the right to kill their unborn children.
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Delicinq4 posted...

adjl posted...

Delicinq4 posted...

that exists as a consequence of their ill-thought out promiscuity.

[Citation needed]

They have fucked up so badly they need to kill a living being to reverse it.

That's neither a citation nor does it address the actual claim you made.
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if it's not born yet, it's not a person, therefore it's not a child.

Rasmoh posted...

I'm not against abortion, but it sure does highlight the sad state of affairs when the far and away #1 most important issue among female voters is the right to kill their unborn children.

Or maybe they just want to have full autonomy over their body and shouldn't be punished for having sex by being forced to carry a child that is unwanted?
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The premise that TC is presenting will never happen.
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Delicinq4 posted...

adjl posted...

Delicinq4 posted...

that exists as a consequence of their ill-thought out promiscuity.

[Citation needed]

They have fucked up so badly they need to kill a living being to reverse it.

every time you masturbate, you're killing multiple millions of living sperm. they're just as alive as a fetus is.

Hyperbolic news.
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Delicinq4 posted...

Digimon posted...

Delicinq4 posted...

adjl posted...

Delicinq4 posted...

that exists as a consequence of their ill-thought out promiscuity.

[Citation needed]

They have fucked up so badly they need to kill a living being to reverse it.

every time you masturbate, you're killing multiple millions of living sperm. they're just as alive as a fetus is.

Nope. A fetus is created life. Sperm are simply cells. Wtf is wrong with you.

Can a fetus survive without a womb? No? Then it's still cells.

Delicinq4 posted...

Yes it can.

Prove it.

Delicinq4 posted...

Premature babies

Proved nothing.

Most abortions are done before 15 weeks. Prove they can survive outside the womb.

Delicinq4 posted...

Also the joining of the sperm and egg is simply the scientific definition of the beginning of life. You do believe in science, right?

Im not anti abortion. But it is not something to celebrate. Its horrible for everyone involved. I lts disgusting when people parade about and are proud of abortions.

Prove it. Links and citations or shut the fuck up.

Rasmoh posted...

I'm not against abortion, but it sure does highlight the sad state of affairs when the far and away #1 most important issue among female voters is the right to kill their unborn children.

What obvious bait you laid out.
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If men gave birth abortion would be legal and super easy to get

MICHALECOLE posted...

If men gave birth abortion would be legal and super easy to get

There would be addictions.
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Delicinq4 posted...

Also the joining of the sperm and egg is simply the scientific definition of the beginning of life. You do believe in science, right?

Not your Science

MICHALECOLE posted...

If men gave birth abortion would be legal and super easy to get

It's called Fight Club.
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Rasmoh posted...

I'm not against abortion, but it sure does highlight the sad state of affairs when the far and away #1 most important issue among female voters is the right to kill their unborn children.

Nah it's not a child. And it's the right to bodily autonomy.
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PuddingBoy posted...

Or maybe they just want to have full autonomy over their body and shouldn't be punished for having sex by being forced to carry a child that is unwanted?

That would be a reasonable assertion if any of these people pushed for bodily autonomy beyond abortion. The amount of support out there for other things that would fall under the purview of bodily autonomy such as drug legalization, suicide, or self-mutilation is non-existent in comparison. It seems though that these people only care about bodily autonomy insofar as their ability to kill their unborn children.

And to call expected outcome of sex "punishment" is moronic. Having children is literally the purpose behind sex, everything else positively associated with sex is a side effect to encourage procreation.

Again, I support abortion, but it shouldn't be an issue that someone should make their voting decisions on. Especially considering people don't typically support any other form of killing for convenience.
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Delicinq4 posted...

Also the joining of the sperm and egg is simply the scientific definition of the beginning of life. You do believe in science, right?

i believe in real science, and real science tells me that you are wrong pal
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St_Kevin posted...

XlaxJynx007 posted...

I find it hilarious that people think that abortion is actually going to be made illegal

LOL yeah

Also the USA will never put children in cages.

You mean what we'd already been doing for like a hundred years to differing extents?

Also someday the Kevin account won't be used for trolling.



Lil69Leo posted...

Can a fetus survive without a womb? No? Then it's still cells.

Can a baby survive without anybody caring for it? No? Then it's still cells. -_-

MICHALECOLE posted...

If men gave birth abortion would be legal and super easy to get

If it was men instead of women, women would have very successfully kept abortion illegal all this time.
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Rasmoh posted...

The amount of support out there for other things that would fall under the purview of bodily autonomy such as drug legalization, suicide, or self-mutilation is non-existent in comparison.

Weed is being legalised aggressively despite the effect on society that abortion doesn't, assisted has strong support despite the economic damage to society and tattoos are legal.
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If it was men instead of women, women would have very successfully kept abortion illegal all this time

Thats why were having this discussion in the first place

Because women have all the power

McSame_as_Bush posted...

Nah it's not a child.

A weak deflecting tactic used by people to lessen their guilt.

And it's the right to bodily autonomy.

See previous post.

Digimon posted...

i believe in real science, and real science tells me that you are wrong pal

Scientifically speaking, you can't argue that it's a child at any point prior to conception, whereas the only arguments after conception rely on vaguely defined parameters of "personhood".

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Weed is being legalised aggressively despite the effect on society that abortion doesn't, assisted has strong support despite the economic damage to society and tattoos are legal.

Weed is about the only one of those that even has remotely comparative single-issue voting support. And again, the people who push for legal weed almost never push for legal meth or heroin, meaning they only support bodily autonomy to their own personal comfort level.
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XlaxJynx007 posted...

I find it hilarious that people think that abortion is actually going to be made illegal

Water is wet. Republicans are against abortion. The sky is blue.

https://www.promiseskept.com/achievement/overview/social-programs/#

PROTECTING LIFE:
President Trump recognizes the precious gift of life and protects the sanctity of life at all stages.

In his first week in office, President Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that prevented $9 billion in foreign aid from being used to fund the abortion industry.

President Trump de-funded a U.N. agency for colluding with Chinas brutal program of forced abortion and sterilization.
President Trump worked with the Congress to sign a bill overturning an Obama midnight regulation that prohibited States from defunding abortion service providers.

The Trump Administration published guidance which promises to enforce the Obamacare requirement that taxpayer dollars should not support abortion coverage in exchange plans.
Reinstated the Mexico City Policy to ban any U.S. foreign aid to organizations that perform abortions.

Signed a Congressional Review Act bill to allow states to restrict Planned Parenthood Funding.

If they can make it illegal they will. The death penalty was actually ruled unconstitutional at one point, the supreme court undid that.
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https://www.prochoiceamerica.org/
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A weak deflecting tactic used by people to lessen their guilt.

No guilt. Life =/= child.
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McSame_as_Bush posted...

No guilt. Life =/= child.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child

1 a : an unborn or recently born person

4 a : a son or daughter of human parents

Seems to fit the criteria to me.
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As a Christian this is my stance.

First
It is better for the woman to have a safe place for abortions, then them going to some back ally and get coat hangered.

Second
A fetus is not alive until it has a heart beat. Until then, it is still basically just a bunch of cells stuck together.

With that said, abusing this system as birth control is horrible and in human. It should only be used if the mother's life is at risk or rape. A mistake abortion is fine, some people can't handle parent hood or going to term. But they should all be encouraged to go the full term, either by giving the kid up for adoption or deciding to keep the baby.

But like I said, when it's abused as a form of birth control, those people should be left barren. They obviously don't want kids and don't deserve them. I met someone like this, she had five abortions in like 2-3 years. I want to say less but that just sounds even more ridiculous. She was a cool human being and had 2 kids but she obviously needed to have her tubes tied or find a different form of birth control. People like that make me sick inside.
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Rasmoh posted...

McSame_as_Bush posted...

No guilt. Life =/= child.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child

1 a : an unborn or recently born person

4 a : a son or daughter of human parents

Seems to fit the criteria to me.

Lmao.

But I'll play along for a moment. You think a clump of cells is a person, but you're still fine with aborting it? That's psychopath shit. I fear for your family and friends.
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Rasmoh posted...

Weed is about the only one of those that even has remotely comparative single-issue voting support. And again, the people who push for legal weed almost never push for legal meth or heroin, meaning they only support bodily autonomy to their own personal comfort level.

Or, they're not drunk. Bodily autonomy is always restricted by not being allowed to effect other people's bodily autonomy. Meth addicts attack people, thus meth is not allowed.
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Mofuji posted...

Canada will warmly welcome all of these women. Except if they're white.

They need to check their privilege and give all the minority women their safe spaces.

You say this satirically, but it's not totally inaccurate. Trudeau apparently groped a woman (who is credible) years ago, it was reported at the time, and he defended himself by saying something like "if I'd known she was a reporter nationally I would have done things differently".
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In his first week in office, President Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that prevented $9 billion in foreign aid from being used to fund the abortion industry.

You mean so they can use that money for more important things, like feeding the hungry and medicine?! MY GOD WHAT A MADMAN.

President Trump de-funded a U.N. agency for colluding with Chinas brutal program of forced abortion and sterilization.

Stopping funding to a program that was clearly abusing human rights?! MY GOD WHAT A MADMAN.

President Trump worked with the Congress to sign a bill overturning an Obama midnight regulation that prohibited States from defunding abortion service providers.

Giving more power to the states to make their own choices?! MY GOD WHAT A MADMAN.

The Trump Administration published guidance which promises to enforce the Obamacare requirement that taxpayer dollars should not support abortion coverage in exchange plans.

You mean people that want them would have to pay for them themselves, rather than expecting the taxpayer to foot the bill?! MY GOD WHAT A MADMAN.

Reinstated the Mexico City Policy to ban any U.S. foreign aid to organizations that perform abortions.

You mean so they can use that money for more important things, like feeding the hungry and medicine?! MY GOD WHAT A MADMAN.

Signed a Congressional Review Act bill to allow states to restrict Planned Parenthood Funding.

Giving more power to the states to make their own choices?! MY GOD WHAT A MADMAN.
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yutterh posted...

As a Christian this is my stance.

First
It is better for the woman to have a safe place for abortions, then them going to some back ally and get coat hangered.

Second
A fetus is not alive until it has a heart beat. Until then, it is still basically just a bunch of cells stuck together.

With that said, abusing this system as birth control is horrible and in human. It should only be used if the mother's life is at risk or rape. A mistake abortion is fine, some people can't handle parent hood or going to term. But they should all be encouraged to go the full term, either by giving the kid up for adoption or deciding to keep the baby.

But like I said, when it's abused as a form of birth control, those people should be left barren. They obviously don't want kids and don't deserve them. I met someone like this, she had five abortions in like 2-3 years. I want to say less but that just sounds even more ridiculous. She was a cool human being and had 2 kids but she obviously needed to have her tubes tied or find a different form of birth control. People like that make me sick inside.

Well then people need to stop shaming women for their use of reproductive controls. I don't exactly blame women for not using any protection when it's considered by many an admission that they're some sort of hussy. A woman on the pill is making a bold statement that she intends to *gasp* have sex for pleasure, and that's a statement she'll receive some abuse for with the wrong crowd. At least if she goes without then she has some plausible deniability.
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Why value human life as more than a fishes life? A fish has tons of dreams and memorable experiences to tell you. A human in that stage not so much.