Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 178: Last Topic Wasn't Fair to Flair [POLITICS]

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Trump never said he was going to do small government.

he talked a lot about lowering taxes, which kind of invokes the idea of making the government smaller.

Not if youre a neocon!
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Trump never said he was going to do small government.

he talked a lot about lowering taxes, which kind of invokes the idea of making the government smaller (i guess it depends on what the president plans to do with the tax money, though).

It would be logical, however, Republicans have cut taxes and increased spending for the last 37 years. They increased borrowing to do it, which is Trump's favorite business strategy anyway.
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Also, Trump expressly promised to renegotiate all our trade deals. This was a major campaign promise.
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You'd call the one-sided banning of imports and tariffs "renegotiating trade deals"?
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red sox 777 posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Trump never said he was going to do small government.

he talked a lot about lowering taxes, which kind of invokes the idea of making the government smaller (i guess it depends on what the president plans to do with the tax money, though).

It would be logical, however, Republicans have cut taxes and increased spending for the last 37 years. They increased borrowing to do it, which is Trump's favorite business strategy anyway.

Still waiting on him to fulfill his campaign promise of telling China were just not gonna pay them back ever, and daring them to do something about it
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

You'd call the one-sided banning of imports and tariffs "renegotiating trade deals"?

Yes. This is an early step in the negotiation. Why would another country agree to renegotiate if they thought we wouldn't impose tariffs if they didn't?
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Jakyl25 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Trump never said he was going to do small government.

he talked a lot about lowering taxes, which kind of invokes the idea of making the government smaller (i guess it depends on what the president plans to do with the tax money, though).

It would be logical, however, Republicans have cut taxes and increased spending for the last 37 years. They increased borrowing to do it, which is Trump's favorite business strategy anyway.

Still waiting on him to fulfill his campaign promise of telling China were just not gonna pay them back ever, and daring them to do something about it

There's nothing they could do about it, but that kind of chaos would torpedo our markets too. And, our government wouldn't be able to borrow anymore. Depriving our government of borrowing is like depriving a human of oxygen.
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http://abcstlouis.com/news/nation-world/oregon-bakery-fires-employees-for-denying-black-woman-service-after-closing

This is the most ridiculous thing I have read maybe all year.

Holy shit.
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Our government already acts like it's deprived of oxygen so eh
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Corrik posted...

http://abcstlouis.com/news/nation-world/oregon-bakery-fires-employees-for-denying-black-woman-service-after-closing

This is the most ridiculous thing I have read maybe all year.

Holy shit.

So Im not a lawyer. But this:

The bakery's statement says that even though it does not consider the employees to be racist and that they were following the business's protocol of closing at 9 p.m., they were fired because "sometimes impact outweighs intent."

Sounds like pretty straightforward grounds for wrongful termination right?
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Corrik posted...

http://abcstlouis.com/news/nation-world/oregon-bakery-fires-employees-for-denying-black-woman-service-after-closing

This is the most ridiculous thing I have read maybe all year.

Holy shit.

So Im not a lawyer. But this:

The bakery's statement says that even though it does not consider the employees to be racist and that they were following the business's protocol of closing at 9 p.m., they were fired because "sometimes impact outweighs intent."

Sounds like pretty straightforward grounds for wrongful termination right?

The thing is. They are an at will state so they can fire for any reason at all. But, when you insert the surrounding comments about racism and stuff and after they turned down 2 white women after hours also. It kind of points to a possible defamation of character almost doesn't it?
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That's an interesting case. They should be sued into the ground under the Civil Rights Act. I'm not sure the employees can win in court but they should.
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imagine being in 2018 and that's your pick for "most ridiculous thing I have read maybe all year"
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That Florida family awarded four bucks is a bit weirder but thats also shitty. I would feel like I was accused of being a racist if I were fired for that.
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neonreaper posted...

That Florida family awarded four bucks is a bit weirder but thats also shitty. I would feel like I was accused of being a racist if I were fired for that.

Yeah for sure. Thats a systemic failure of our government. This is just one person acting like an idiot.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/05/31/trump-has-officially-put-more-tariffs-on-u-s-allies-than-on-china/

Presented without comment
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There's no point in being an ally with trump's America. Just like putin has always wanted.
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It is going to take decades for the U.S. to recover from the Trump presidency. Jesus christ.
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Just in time to say May 2017 was a year ago -- new newsletter!

https://us17.campaign-archive.com/home/?u=40b35ab3e6c83f389457bf3e9&id=6162a5d0f2
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https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824?vf5

Don't even know where to begin with this one.....
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Why would being an ally protect you from tariffs? What benefits is the United States receiving from these allies that should exempt them from tariffs?
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lower prices for goods?
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HaRRicH posted...

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824?vf5

Don't even know where to begin with this one.....

Reading this honestly made me feel physically sick.
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HaRRicH posted...

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824?vf5

Don't even know where to begin with this one.....

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat theeeeeeeeeeee fuck
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But we don't want their goods. We want people to buy American to bring back the jobs.
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red sox 777 posted...

But we don't want their goods. We want people to buy American to bring back the jobs.

damn why don't we just ban all imports then
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HaRRicH posted...

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824?vf5

Don't even know where to begin with this one.....

for my own sanity, i refuse to believe this is real

what the fuck
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red sox 777 posted...

But we don't want their goods. We want people to buy American to bring back the jobs.

uhhhh
no
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xp1337 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

But we don't want their goods. We want people to buy American to bring back the jobs.

damn why don't we just ban all imports then

That's what Thomas Jefferson did. But come on now, you can't expect the 1% to go without their Dom Perignon and Rolexes and Porsches. We don't want to ban things, just make them expensive.

And expensive goods are good, because then the American factory workers making them will earn more money. Will it cost some white collar folks a bit? Of course. But you know, you should have thought about that before losing the election.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

red sox 777 posted...

But we don't want their goods. We want people to buy American to bring back the jobs.

uhhhh
no

Weren't you paying attention during the campaign? The president promised this, over and over.
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Red Sox, youre laying the trolling on a little too thick right now homie.
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There is a limit to how stupid one can reasonably believe a person is.
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He isn't trolling. Redoing poor trade agreements and Buy American were both campaign promises.
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but like, is there really, though
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I would support being tough on the European Union. It's an antidemocratic government of technocrats that protects the elite. I'd support major US aid to Greece, Portugal, Italy, etc. if they will leave the European Union. Massive US aid to Greece if they will default on their debt to Germany/the EU, to set an example that predatory lending to countries will not lead to profits.

And aid for Spain is fine too, but they've gotta let Catalonia go!
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HaRRicH posted...

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824?vf5

Don't even know where to begin with this one.....

Went into this one hoping it was aligned with my stance that we need better language to distinguish between people who are attracted to children but dont act on it and seek help for their disorder, and people who actively molest kids.

Was very quickly NOPED
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Corrik posted...

He isn't trolling. Redoing poor trade agreements and Buy American were both campaign promises.

Thats not the part thats the trolling.
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Corrik posted...

He isn't trolling. Redoing poor trade agreements and Buy American were both campaign promises.

I mean, he is very clearly trolling for some reason. I don't know what he gets out of it because this isn't even HIGH ENERGY trolling, but it is pretty blatant.
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red sox 777 posted...

xp1337 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

But we don't want their goods. We want people to buy American to bring back the jobs.

damn why don't we just ban all imports then

That's what Thomas Jefferson did. But come on now, you can't expect the 1% to go without their Dom Perignon and Rolexes and Porsches. We don't want to ban things, just make them expensive.

And expensive goods are good, because then the American factory workers making them will earn more money. Will it cost some white collar folks a bit? Of course. But you know, you should have thought about that before losing the election.

I mean...as a videogame developer, banning all imports could torpedo our industry.

Guess where all the console are made? In China. Block all trade from China, and suddenly PS4 goes from $400 to $1000. That would probably kill the US market; like we might actually start focusing on Europe as our primary market.

And videogames are not the only industry that would suffer without imports. A lot of the currently active car factories in the US are foreign companies (Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota, Honda). What happens to these if we impose a ban on foreign goods? A lot of companies also mix and match manufacturing; Ford has plants in the US, but also plants in Mexico (Mexico makes a lot of the parts, Ford imports them to create finished cars).
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Corrik posted...

He isn't trolling.

"you should have thought about that before losing the election" isn't trolling? for how quick you are to accuse me of trolling, you sure are lenient on red sox.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Corrik posted...

He isn't trolling.

"you should have thought about that before losing the election" isn't trolling? for how quick you are to accuse me of trolling, you sure are lenient on red sox.

Was referring to his main statement.
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red sox 777 posted...

I would support being tough on the European Union. It's an antidemocratic government of technocrats that protects the elite.

1) it's not really a government. it's a union.
2) how is it antidemocratic? you know the EU holds democratic elections, right?
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Corrik posted...

Was referring to his main statement.

ok. no, his main statement isn't trolling. that's probably not why people say he's trolling.
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https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1002315933560594433

The entire world right now is in a battle between authoritarianism and democracy. Its happening right here in our own hemisphere. We must continue to stand up against authoritarian regimes until a constitutional democracy returns to the people of Venezuela. https://t.co/1FugdgagxD

So does somebody want to tell him, or...
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-jobs-report-may-2018-120406400.html
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I like how they qualify everything as post-crisis like DC comics
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Fun fact about the jobs report: it's illegal market manipulation for Trump to talk about it before it's released!

(I don't think it's all that high up on the list of terrible thinks Trump has done, but it would be a scandal for a normal president).

Jakyl25 posted...

I like how they qualify everything as post-crisis like DC comics

Do we just wipe the slate clean after Trump?
New 50?
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Just remember that, post-Crisis, there was a British Invasion and a chunk of the line formed their own imprint under the DC Umbrella. So... third party rises to power?
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Oped: Trump is practicing 1600s and economics and not even doing it correctly: https://tinyurl.com/y8qebme4 (WaPo)
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

red sox 777 posted...

I would support being tough on the European Union. It's an antidemocratic government of technocrats that protects the elite.

1) it's not really a government. it's a union.
2) how is it antidemocratic? you know the EU holds democratic elections, right?

Well, look at what happened in Greece. They held democratic elections, the voters elected a government for change, and the EU crushed them.
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