Board 8 > [VGMC] Video Games Music Contest 12 - NOMINATIONS

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xp1337
03/05/18 12:17:20 AM
#302:


Series stuff. I have no clue about the rhythm stuff, but re: Trails/Xanadu I'd count them separately like SMT/Persona though I admittedly have a conflict here because combining them would put me at 6.

I also meant to comment on azuarc's meta question from before about doubles. I had the same thought before nominations when I was putting together my ideas. I think it's a valid interpretation, but my reasoning to use them boiled down to a few things: I think someone (Mac? Too lazy to go back) mentioned it, but I know personally speaking, when I look back at songs on the bubble, I usually work from the cutoff line down, so a double would increase its "visibility" so to speak for me and make it more likely I'd commit to it to push it over the top at the end. If I didn't double, maybe it gets lost in a bigger crowd a category down and never gets any support at all so my ability to push it higher up the bubble does nothing. Also it's ~just my style~. Finally, I AM THE META. ALL YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT IT I SHALL REMAKE IN MY IMAGE.

also still listening to stuff. I was actually shockingly current for most of the first two days. Then the playlist didn't get updated for a while and I got lazy so I'm doing some catchup. At 396 songs in on the playlist right now. Still, this is always the most agonizing part of noms for me. It's like a lull where I'm not sure what's going on.
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azuarc
03/05/18 12:18:37 AM
#303:


Lightning Strikes posted...
I'll be honest, I never liked the series rule. It's so arbitrary.

To a degree, it is, but understand that almost every rule we have is a direct response to someone adversely affecting a previous contest. In the case of the series rule, we got overwhelmed one year by Touhou fans who represented a very fervent minority of the voters. That was shortly after the game limit was imposed thanks to someone who managed to finagle an entire roster of Lunar Silver Star Story songs into the bracket. We also have a rule about song versions because we had a user who nominated about 12 variations of Bloody Tears in the same year.

In every case, the rule isn't there because the host wants to impose. They're there to:
a) keep the field somewhat diverse
b) protect those IPs from being completely hated upon
c) prevent users from becoming jaded toward the contest thanks to the antics of individuals

In my three years as host, I haven't overseen any particular great risk to those threats. The closest we've come to that recently is Undertale, which had 9 entries in our first 128-song bracket. So I should consider myself fortunate to have taken over a stable and relatively troll-free project. But those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it, and I know it's only a matter of time before we have somebody wander in here who wants to nominate 20 songs from their favorite game or franchise because it's the best-est evar! With the recent remake, imagine if someone tried to nominate 20 Secret of Mana tracks. Now imagine if their efforts got 8+ songs from Seiken Densetsu into the bracket. How do you think that would go? (Hint: Secret of Mana may be my favorite game, but it has a lifetime record of 1-16 in VGMC.)

So yeah, I try not to be "arbitrary," but I need protocols for preempting anyone who risks pushing the boundaries too far.
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azuarc
03/05/18 12:22:57 AM
#304:


xp1337 posted...
I also meant to comment on azuarc's meta question from before about doubles. I had the same thought before nominations when I was putting together my ideas. I think it's a valid interpretation, but my reasoning to use them boiled down to a few things: I think someone (Mac? Too lazy to go back) mentioned it, but I know personally speaking, when I look back at songs on the bubble, I usually work from the cutoff line down, so a double would increase its "visibility" so to speak for me and make it more likely I'd commit to it to push it over the top at the end.

When exactly you commit to your doubles is a matter of preference. I like to wait until late, unless there's something very near and dear to me. Yes, there comes a point when all the 1-vote songs just look kinda futile. When the cut-off is clearly 3 or above, you stop noticing those songs and focus on the 2+ tracks. But that point is definitely not in the opening days of noms.

Anyway, I'll be using my doubles to fish songs out of troubled waters, or push them into the bubble, when the time comes.
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xp1337
03/05/18 12:24:54 AM
#305:


azuarc posted...
But that point is definitely not in the opening days of noms.

can't help it if i'm just ahead of my time
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azuarc
03/05/18 12:30:53 AM
#306:


You're so two-thousand-eighteen,
I'm so two-thousand-late...teen.
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Popcorn_Fairy
03/05/18 12:33:36 AM
#307:


Honestly, the series rule is something I would have set up from the beginning if I was organizing it. Because believe me, I could easily spend all my nominations on songs from one game or series. A variety is much better than doing that.
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03/05/18 12:50:42 AM
#308:


+ Charge Cycles | Transformer Robot Sing Wheels On The Bus |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSDE5HmlGtI

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Menji
03/05/18 12:54:28 AM
#309:


+ Persona 5 | Beneath the Mask
+ Final Fantasy XV | Somnus
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greengravy294
03/05/18 1:01:57 AM
#310:


++ Tales of Berseria | Theme of Velvet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf5-oII_0fw


how did I miss this for 5 days OH NO
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greengravy294
03/05/18 1:04:20 AM
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trdl23
03/05/18 1:22:03 AM
#312:


That's because I'm not the one organizing the shadow cabal this time
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Janus5k
03/05/18 2:11:13 AM
#313:


why in the actual heck would Trails and Xanadu be the same series

is Dragon Slayer even still a thing
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Ytterbicide
03/05/18 2:37:08 AM
#314:


Looks good

++ Blue Reflection | OVERDOSE |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMv4qufsWeU

+ FTL | Colonial (Battle) |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y15zrRR0cI

++ Langrisser II | Soldier |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRJVzEfNtVw

+ Pokemon Clover | Culmination |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4saCIMUcupY

+ The Scheme | I'll Save You All My Justice |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1L1VRq3Hog

+ Wild Arms V | Terrible Monster-Attacking Crew |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXEz-i-oORk


If necessary I'll rip the Clover one myself or switch the nom

either work
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RySenkari
03/05/18 2:47:48 AM
#315:


+ Final Fantasy IV | Land Of Dwarves |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db8XFaVh890

+ Final Fantasy XIII-2 | Ruined Hometown |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpsgk7b3R3w

+ Sailor Moon: Another Story | Downtown Juuban |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKRHe_ll2bw

+ Snatcher | One Night In Neo Kobe City |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofr8qqdZ_f0

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FL81
03/05/18 2:56:46 AM
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azuarc
03/05/18 7:33:24 AM
#317:


Updated thru post 300.
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azuarc
03/05/18 7:35:29 AM
#318:


greengravy294 posted...
++ Tales of Berseria | Theme of Velvet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf5-oII_0fw


how did I miss this for 5 days OH NO


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+ Game | Song | Link

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luigi13579
03/05/18 7:55:10 AM
#319:


I think this is the first time I've participated in this contest (although it's certainly possible I did at some point before), so correct me if I make any mistakes.

I'll just do a few noms of my own first:

+ Thunder Force III | Haides |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a52pt79Uu40


+ Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II | Southern Continent |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtEZsGIf7cY


+ Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II | Goku's Arrival |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-k0Q7CP-w


+ Killer7 | Sweet Blue Flag |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDygmIrovFU


+ Castlevania: Symphony of the Night | Wandering Ghosts |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SxasNmTbpE


+ Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin | The Gears Go Awry |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0aL1k9AaDw


+ Super Robot Wars OGs | Cherry Blossom Phantasm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eqroD4cIWk


+ Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden | Dark Prison |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka8UVFcDxCM


+ Shin Megami Tensei IMAGINE | Universe Seth Battle |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIO2sehaC-8


Support:

++ Xenosaga Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra | Promised Pain

I think the Legacy of Goku tracks count as originals. They're based on Bruce Faulconer's DBZ tracks (with some exceptions), but they're their own thing really. If you don't think they should count, let me know.
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Flamander
03/05/18 11:23:44 AM
#320:


+ Pokemon Clover | Justin Smith John |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-sR1bjpso


Ytterbicide posted...


If necessary I'll rip the Clover one myself or switch the nom

either work


You don't need to go that far - the OST's on Soundcloud iirc.
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tennisboy213
03/05/18 11:49:58 AM
#321:


I'll start off with some supports, just so people don't get discouraged and un-nom

+ Disney's Aladdin | Arab Rock |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNJGN4OqO74

+ Killer Instinct | Inferno (Cinder's Theme) |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1r-B0cDC9Y

+ Super Castlevania IV | Simon Belmont's Theme |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWMN91gMD_4

+ Chaos Code | Eleganza (Cthylla Stage) |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiirWzIEvqg

+ Fire Emblem: Awakening | Id ~ Purpose |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bio99hoZVYI

+ Radiant Historia | Blue Radiance |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNORnKsigdQ

+ Radiant Historia | The Red Locus |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5czLUQ_B1p8

+ Super Mario Bros. | Overworld |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy3qq7zc4EY

+ Super Smash Bros. Melee | Big Blue |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3jzYwX-pa0
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Snake5555555555
03/05/18 11:56:01 AM
#322:


Supporting some songs

+ Yakuza Kiwami 2 | A Scattered Moment | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ardUGs2-H
+ Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance | Collective Consciousness |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dPaVk4G1jg

+ Nier Automata | Alien Manifestation |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntHbvoYr1Lk

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barreldragon88
03/05/18 1:08:13 PM
#323:


luigi13579 posted...
I think this is the first time I've participated in this contest (although it's certainly possible I did at some point before), so correct me if I make any mistakes.

I'll just do a few noms of my own first:

+ Thunder Force III | Haides |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a52pt79Uu40


+ Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II | Southern Continent |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtEZsGIf7cY


+ Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II | Goku's Arrival |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-k0Q7CP-w


+ Killer7 | Sweet Blue Flag |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDygmIrovFU


+ Castlevania: Symphony of the Night | Wandering Ghosts |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SxasNmTbpE


+ Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin | The Gears Go Awry |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0aL1k9AaDw


+ Super Robot Wars OGs | Cherry Blossom Phantasm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eqroD4cIWk


+ Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden | Dark Prison |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka8UVFcDxCM


+ Shin Megami Tensei IMAGINE | Universe Seth Battle |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIO2sehaC-8


Support:

++ Xenosaga Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra | Promised Pain

I think the Legacy of Goku tracks count as originals. They're based on Bruce Faulconer's DBZ tracks (with some exceptions), but they're their own thing really. If you don't think they should count, let me know.

Holy shit, finally another SRW fan! Welcome aboard!!!
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Advokaiser
03/05/18 1:52:33 PM
#324:


Since I've already nominated 5 Castlevania songs, I have pretty much no idea what song to ditch in favor of Bloodlines. I guess I'll just have to wait...

+ Guilty Gear Isuka | Home Sweet Grave |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39JYengjS6E

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FL81
03/05/18 4:13:37 PM
#325:


@luigi13579 Be careful with the LoG2 nominations, a lot of them are just remixes of the Faulconer anime soundtrack, and thus ineligible for the contest (I don't know about your specific picks, but I would watch out)
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Mac Arrowny
03/05/18 4:18:51 PM
#326:


If they're remixes they'd be eligible, wouldn't they? I mean, we've had songs inspired by classical music in before, I believe.
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tazzyboyishere
03/05/18 4:40:24 PM
#327:


Mac Arrowny posted...
If they're remixes they'd be eligible, wouldn't they? I mean, we've had songs inspired by classical music in before, I believe.

Devil Went Down to Georgia from GH3 was banned, so probably not.
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azuarc
03/05/18 4:50:54 PM
#328:


The irony is it was banned by ed and I was the one who nominated it.
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Advokaiser
03/05/18 5:01:49 PM
#329:


So... az, having 137 songs so far that could be in, how do you decide which ones don't make the cut? And which ones would they be?
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azuarc
03/05/18 5:04:47 PM
#330:


Songs on the bubble are picked by randomizer.
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xp1337
03/05/18 5:05:37 PM
#331:


by randomizer he means he picks them to cause me maximum suffering
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Advokaiser
03/05/18 5:06:31 PM
#332:


azuarc posted...
randomizer


Oh dear...
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azuarc
03/05/18 5:11:38 PM
#333:


The randomizer automatically cuts gust and falcom music
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tazzyboyishere
03/05/18 5:12:47 PM
#334:


Can we make DWDtG eligible? That shit is fire
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Flamander
03/05/18 5:29:59 PM
#335:


Fillin' up the rest of my list.

+ Ridge Racer | Speedster |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI3bI0hvl-U

+ Neo Turf Masters | BADEN National Golf Course - Germany |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hxYQgklj-Q


I really want to double Neo Turf Masters!! It's such a good track.

Going out so I can support people:

- English Training DS | Title Screen |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV9cg7kHMUo


Good, but literally no one's going to support it. Funny, though.

- Earthworm Jim 2 | The Flyin' King |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQAGRPm2FHk


No one's going to support this track either. Goes on for too long before it gets good I think.

Supporting:

+ Rhythm Thief and the Emperor's Treasure | Phantom R's Theme |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je1nL5y2qUg


I like this track. Very classical.

Looking at what songs I have that are high right now...

+ Gravity Rush | Douse Shinandakura |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWrKHWpLn0U


I feel this song is pretty much locked in my list, though its double status may change.

+ Danganronpa V3 | Scrum Debate |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32GWbQt_Zn4


Extremely hesitant to put this up to 4. It's catchy, but I don't think it'll get very far against some of the other songs. I feel like another song from the OST would work better. Anyways, it's still Masafumi Takada, and I like him - so until something better shows up, this'll be my vote.

+ Asuka 120% Burning Fest | Torami Stage |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCqUEtq8Ei4


At the moment, three points two people is enough to definitely get your game in. Since someone else voted for this song, and I want this song in, I doubled it.

However...

- Persona 5 | The Whims Of Fate |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA0nSkSxA3E


With both Rivers in the Desert and Life Will Change getting up there in votes, I feel that I don't really need to vote for Persona 5.
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azuarc
03/05/18 5:41:31 PM
#336:


tazzyboyishere posted...
Can we make DWDtG eligible? That shit is fire

I was a little surprised it was banned in the first place. I guess I understand why I'm Han solo was deemed ineligible, but gh3 devil is a good bit different from Charlie Daniels. Plus guitar solos.

Truthfully, it'll probably lose in round 1, but I'm willing to give you the chance to watch it lose in round 1.
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Popcorn_Fairy
03/05/18 5:44:01 PM
#337:


So wait, is that the ok on the Devil Went Down to Georgia?
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azuarc
03/05/18 5:50:20 PM
#338:


Yes. I feel it's different enough from the original to dodge the licensing rule.
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Popcorn_Fairy
03/05/18 5:53:06 PM
#339:


In that case

+ Guitar Hero 3 | The Devil Went Down to Georgia |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89p8ya3ZdnQ
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Janus5k
03/05/18 5:56:13 PM
#340:


I can't actually see it doing well but man how do I resist

+ Guitar Hero 3 | The Devil Went Down to Georgia |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89p8ya3ZdnQ


On a somewhat-related note:

+ REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! | Dadadadadadadadadada |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqWkT6YQ09Q

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luigi13579
03/05/18 6:00:38 PM
#341:


FL81 posted...
@luigi13579 Be careful with the LoG2 nominations, a lot of them are just remixes of the Faulconer anime soundtrack, and thus ineligible for the contest (I don't know about your specific picks, but I would watch out)

Thanks for the heads-up. I think only the first one is a Faulconer track, so I'll remove that one.

- Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II | Southern Continent |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtEZsGIf7cY
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NFUN
03/05/18 6:15:20 PM
#342:


DADADADADADADADADa
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tazzyboyishere
03/05/18 6:17:17 PM
#343:


Sweet

- Breath of Fire | Trade City |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc72rhjygLk

+ Guitar Hero 3 | The Devil Went Down to Georgia |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89p8ya3ZdnQ

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NFUN
03/05/18 6:59:10 PM
#344:


- MLB Slugfest 2003 | Riot At The Bat Rack |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHytoS8lKoQ

- Icy Tower | Opening Theme |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2VTrL2p3u0


bye joke noms
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Kikoman589
03/05/18 8:36:51 PM
#345:


Advokaiser posted...
Since I've already nominated 5 Castlevania songs, I have pretty much no idea what song to ditch in favor of Bloodlines. I guess I'll just have to wait...

+ Guilty Gear Isuka | Home Sweet Grave |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39JYengjS6E

My man.

I doubled Cross a Fear instead of Bloodlines because it's less appreciated, and I want to see how Mortvia Aqueduct does. I really want Bloo- no, literally every Castlevania song I like to get in though.
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RySenkari
03/05/18 9:19:49 PM
#346:


NFUN posted...
bye joke noms


For someone with "fun" in his name, you're not very :(
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pyresword
03/05/18 9:21:19 PM
#347:


I mentally pronounce his name as "un-fun", so I'd say it fits in that context.

(I don't know why I do that but it's stuck in my head now)
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KCF0107
03/05/18 9:34:10 PM
#348:


+ Nex Machina | Cosmic Hero |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZh_QHezYZM


+ Mekazoo | Vagrant Vines |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx4wZVNtSlM


+ Tekken 7 | Moonsiders 1st |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV36oKczdzE


+ Charge Cycles | Transformer Robot Sing Wheels On The Bus |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSDE5HmlGtI


One more nom and three supports, which should bring me to 20. I still need to do my 5 doubles. I likely won't be available to give this my full attention beyond tomorrow until after the deadline, so I'm sorry for any future nominations that I would have totally supported. If push comes to shove, I'm sure I can ask azuarc to manually make support changes for me, but that will likely be only for songs that I've heard before and not new discoveries.
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azuarc
03/05/18 9:37:08 PM
#349:


pyresword posted...
I mentally pronounce his name as "un-fun", so I'd say it fits in that context.

(I don't know why I do that but it's stuck in my head now)

It's NoFUN, get it right.
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NFUN
03/05/18 9:38:59 PM
#350:


RySenkari posted...
NFUN posted...
bye joke noms


For someone with "fun" in his name, you're not very :(

Crazy Bus is on my "Possible Support" list
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azuarc
03/05/18 9:41:43 PM
#351:


From the parser: Nominations full for @Flamander discarding BADEN National Golf Course - Germany

There are now 56 songs with 3 supports, thru post #340.
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