Board 8 > Wickle ranks character themes: Ranking Time

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After plenty of a delay, I'm back and finished with these rankings that I slightly half-assed in the middle. Sorry! I redo writeups as I go anyway so it should work, even if I'm slightly off on what the low to middle rankings should be.

First off, I want to talk about how I did these rankings. Rather than have some sort of average between song and character, I felt like doing things a little differently. Everything is weighted from song rating (out of 10) and then character rating (out of 10) without using a decimal system (except in one circumstance). Basically, all songs were arranged by rating, and then organized by the character rating. When the characters were the same rating, then I went back and individually picked what song I preferred. The songs at 6 got really difficult because I had no strong feelings one way or the other.

Secondly, there's a lot of characters I either don't know, or had to scrap what little I know about them to award them a placement. Any character that I deemed having *no* knowledge about, got rated 5.5. This means they're lower than a character I deem average (6/10), but higher than one I dislike. Obviously it rewards those that nominate characters I know more than those that don't... And that works for me, fucking get into my tastes, my nostalgia tends to get wrapped up into these rankings.

Finally... I changed my sig due to not having anything I wanted to replace the usual gif during Fall season for anime... this contest... I'll finally make my sig a reward. The person whose average placement of songs ranks the highest (only those with the original max of 4+ are eligible) can choose the reward first, the one who gets the overall #1 song gets the other. I mentioned replacing my sig is one reward (with some disclaimers), the other is choosing my next project.

Next will be the list, I had to mess with game titles a lot (removed subsections to all Touhou, gave an acronym to some series...) at least everything will be fixed inside the rankings. They're listed game and song title. Nominators and the characters that the songs represent had to be forsaken because too many characters, they'll be listed when the song places.

I will do a full list of nominators though, and if it seems like you have songs missing... you probably didn't pay attention to my topic.

Anagram - 1/1
azuarc - 5/5
Drakeryn - 3/3
FL81 - 4/4
GavsEvans123 - 5/5
Great_Paul - 2/2
JONALEON1 - 5/5
kate - 4/4
Lolo_Guru - 4/4
NBIceman- 2/2
NioraptH - 5/5
Pirateking2000 - 3/3
pyresword - 5/5
Raka_Putra - 5/5
Reg - 5/5
scarletspeed7 - 5/5
Shonen_Bat - 5/5
Simoun - 5/5
Snake - 5/5
Tom Bombadil - 4/4
trdl23 - 5/5
WhiteLens - 5/5
WolfofLight - 3/3
Zyxyz - 5/5

Now for song list... Which I spoke of before this list.
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Advance Wars: Black Hole Rising- Grit's theme
Advance Wars:Dual Strike- Grimm's Theme
Anarchy Reigns- Days of Old
Ar tonelico Qoga- EXEC_CUTYPUMP/.
Assassin's Creed II- Theme of Ezio's Family
BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma- Marionette Purple II
Child of Light- Aurora's Theme
Chrono Trigger- Frog's Theme
Clannad- Nagisa
Cuphead- Die House
Devil May Cry- Red-Hot Juice
Devil Survivor 2- The Anguished One
Disgaea- Lord Laharl's Hymn
Doki Doki Literature Club- Okay, Everyone (Yuri)
Dragon Age: Inquisition- Sera Was Never
Dragon Quest IV- Taloon
Dynasty Warriors 7: Xtreme Legends- Trick and Magic
Fate/Stay Night- The Church on the Hill
FF IV- Rydia's Theme
FF V- Clash on the Big Bridge
FF VI- Relm's Theme
FF VI- Terra's Theme
FF VII- Descendant of Shinobi
FF VII- Cid's Theme
FF VIII- The Man With the Machine Gun
FF IX- Vivi's Theme
FF X- Yuna's Theme
FE: Radiant Dawn- King of the Sky
Ghost Trick- Jowd ~ A Captive of Fate
Guilty Gear X2- Holy Orders- Be Just or Be Dead
Guilty Gear XX#R- Megatona Furioso
Guitar Hero III- The Devil Went Down to Georgia
Hollow Knight- Hornet
Hyperdimension Neptunia V- Noire's Theme
Iji- Tor's Theme
Kingdom Hearts- The Other Promise
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 Remix- Musique pour la Tristesse de Xion
Kirby Super Star Ultra- Masked Dedede Theme
Little Busters- Heart-Colored Capriccio
LoZ: Ocarina of Time- Zelda's Lullaby
LoZ: Phantom Hourglass- Linebeck's Theme
LoZ: Twilight Princess- Midna's Lament
MvC- Theme of Megaman
MvC- Theme of MODOK
Mass Effect 2- Illusive Man Theme
Mass Effect 2- Garrus
Mega Man X4- Opening Stage X
Mega Man X5- Dynamo's Theme
Megaman 3- Whistle Concert
Metal Gear Rising- It has to be this way
New Danganronpa V3- Mr Monokuma's Class V3
Nier RepliCant- Kaine's Salvation
NMH- The Virgin Child Makes Her Wish Without Feeling Anything
Okami- The Sun Rises
Onimusha Dawn of Dreams- Blue Oni Prologue
Paper Mario- Twink's Theme
Paper Mario: the Thousand-Year Door- Madame Flurrie's Theme
Parasite Eve- Theme of Aya
P4- Heaven
P4 Ultimate 2- Blood Red Moon
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Dual Destinies- Apollo Justice ~ I'm Fine
Pokemon HG/SS- Lance's Champion Theme
Pokemon Platinum- Battle Frontier Brain Theme
Pokemon Sun/Moon- Team Skull Leader Guzma Battle
Pokemon Sun/Moon- Vs Rival Gladion
Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon- Partner's Theme
Professor Layton and the Curious Village- Professor Layton's Theme
Sengoku Basara 3- Ieyasu Tokugawa's Theme
Shadow Man- Moonlight Sonata
Silent Hill 2- Betrayal
Skullgirls- Shenanigans and Goings Ons
Skullgirls Second Encore- Unfinished Business
SoulCaliburV- Daybreaker
SoulCaliburV- Sleepless- An Untamed Beast
Star Wars: EAW FoC- Zann Consortium
SF 2- Ken Stage
SF 2 Turbo- Guile's Theme
SF V- Ibuki's Theme
SF V- Rashid's Theme
SF V- Karin's Theme
Super Mario RPG- And My Name's Booster
Super Paper Mario- The Ultimate Show
SSBB- Ashley's Song
SSF IV- Cody's Theme
Tales of Berseria- Velvet's Theme
Tales of Symphonia- Zelos
Tatsunoko vs Capcom- Theme of Roll
The King of Fighters XIII- Diabolosis
Touhou 11- Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion
Touhou 11- Lullaby of Deserted Hell
Touhou 11- Satori Maiden ~ 3rd Eye
Touhou 6- Beloved Tomboyish Girl
Touhou 8- Love Colored Master Spark
Touhou 8- Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke
Trails in the Sky SC- Silver Will Super Arrange Version
Umineko no Naku Koro Ni- Happiness of Marionette
Umineko no Naku Koro Ni Chiru- Deep Blue Jeer
Undertale- Bergentrckung/ASGORE
WoW: Legion- Anduin's Theme
Yu-Gi-Oh!: Forbidden Memories- Seto Kaiba's Theme
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greengravy294 posted...

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Okay fine, I'll post #100 shortly.
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#100: Mr Monokuma's Class V3
Game: New Danganronpa V3
Character: Monokuma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTEhzdlHNMQ
Nominator: Reg

Song Rating: 2/10
Character Rating: 5.5/10

Entertainingly, 2 is my lowest ranking here. I have gone lower to 1/10 on a song before, but ultimately it's not gonna happen in this topic. First off, I don't normally like lyrics in bgm, there's very few cases where I like it, and then there's worse cases like this song's buhbuhbuhbuhbabbling. Like what the fuck. It's a slightly nice-ish trumpet tune outside of that stupid vocal thing, which is what gets it to 2/10. Oddly, Monokuma I know one thing about... spoilers about Junko Enkoshima is actually operating him, and she was nominated in my antagonists ranking but I never actually had any research done on him specifically.

As you can tell, there isn't much else to my ratings, no specific pieces that tell you where I get my score from, and for that, I'm sorry. But the further I break something down the harder it gets to just understand what I'm doing. I'm not perfect in critique. Oh, and just ask if you'd like hints towards the next ones. I didn't do one for 100, but maybe I'll start on the next one.
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Got #100 HYPE
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congrats Reg Hero
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I would've probably nominated DR1's version of that song if Reg hadn't beaten me to it... guess I dodged a bullet there!
pun unintended, really
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reg only got #100 when it comes to songs

#100 when it comes to character they're attached to is still up for grabs
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Lolo_Guru posted...

reg only got #100 when it comes to songs

#100 when it comes to character they're attached to is still up for grabs

Doesn't matter, got #100 on THE LIST
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Lolo_Guru posted...

#100 when it comes to character they're attached to is still up for grabs

Characters don't go below 4 here. Nothing is like... ultra mega offensive.
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Monokuma's theme as the last is expected, it's annoying.
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#99. EXEC_CUTYPUMP/.
Game: Ar tonelico Qoga
Character: Mute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu9TA8myhC0
Nominator: Zyxyz

Song Rating: 2
Character Rating 5.5

Similar rating, it just ended up a little higher because the surprise factor of this song was just... definitely something. It attempts to border screamo except only because people are yelling into their microphones, it doesn't have the hard rock to counter the fact that the vocals are literal trash in those moments. But eventually, eventually it breaks away... and suddenly becomes a pop idol song. Never did I like the song, but I sat there stupified for so long it managed to place higher than 100. I not only know nothing about this character, but I also know minimal about the game series this is from, so not much to talk about regarding Mute. Except that I decided not to haunt you guys by getting an image of her. I might get images starting next character.
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despite her appearance, Mute is the only good character in the garbage fire that is Ar tonelico Qoga
still disappointing to see the song ranked so low, though not really surprising
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WickIebee posted...

Characters don't go below 4 here. Nothing is like... ultra mega offensive.

man I feel like I missed an opportunity here

though I don't know quite what you would find offensive
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Oh whoops, meant to post another one last night.

#98. Madame Flurrie's Theme
Game: Paper Mario: the Thousand-Year Door
Character: Madame Flurrie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaHe1__kh6w
Nominator: Lolo_Guru

Song rating: 4
Character rating: 5.5

Entertainingly, the link Lolo gave... the owner took it down (probably copyright things). So I don't know the quality here, but it's what I had to get. As you can see, we've risen from a song rating of 2 to 4, skipping any threes. Usually 4s are just they're definitely still bad, but I can see a reason to like it. This song is kind of like your cartoon saloon song, with a ghouly background. It's not all that interesting to me. So it slightly works that I posted this song today... as today marks the start of 4/10 songs. Oh yeah... uh, character is hideous, but I don't know anything about her.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zpHj2VF2I2A/hqdefault.jpg

(keeping them links so if you click last message instead of like a notification from posts, you have not been spoiled)
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I'll just go with another one.

#97. Team Skull Leader Guzma Battle
Game: Pokemon Sun/Moon
Character: Guzma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REC7daXbjho
Nominator: GavsEvans123

Song Rating: 4
Character Rating: 5.5

To be honest, it's kind of a neutral battle theme... but then has sort of this rap-esque overtone that makes me hate the song. I don't like rap. I'm not gonna like Team Skull overall, as I don't like... well, their gimmicks. Sorry, don't know what else to add. Except that I'm randomly confused as hell regarding his glasses, since some screenshots actually have the left lens round, while normal pics have them with the indent. The hell is this character anyway... In any case, added image differently this time, felt it'd work like that.
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WickIebee posted...

I don't like rap.

*stares nervously at Days of Old*
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trdl23 posted...

*stares nervously at Days of Old*

#96. Days of Old You guessed it, at your dismay
Game: Anarchy Reigns
Character: Blacker Baron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PtAcuBS5B4
Nominator: trdl23

Song Rating: 4
Character Rating: 5.5

This song would be a 6, where it's not a bad song to me... if it didn't have that damn chorus. The chorus is just annoying vocals that ruin the song for me. I do remember this soundtrack being nominated when I had my ost ratings and I gave it an "okay" rating overall and said I'd enjoy it if I could listen to it while I was not trying to focus on schoolwork or some other project, this was not one of the good songs though. Sorry, it's just not in my taste. Of course, I can't comment on the character, I know basically nothing about the series.
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Respect the Baron. That's your favorite pimp's pimp, fool.
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#95. Rashid's Theme
Game: Street Fighter V
Character: Rashid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGrSt5wyQVE
Nominator: trdl23

Song Rating: 4
Character Rating: 5.5

Well, to straight up say... dubstep is not a genre I actively listen to, because it's a genre that's pretty hit and miss for me. This song was one of those misses, it has a lot of potential since they used it to perfectly grasp a song of Rashid's nationality, while capturing how dubstep and parkour go together. If I played Street Fighter, maybe having it as bgm there would make it a lot better, especially when his master of wind makes him a prime subject of being my second main. Another character steals the spot of my true main, but I can't quite say that with a few SF characters in here. Maybe that person is among these, maybe not. To be honest, I felt I may have been harsh on it after starting this write-up, but as of right now... it's just not a song I can exactly move higher right now either.
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Days of Old is the first song that I've downloaded after hearing it for the first time in this topic.

GavsEvans123 posted...

Days of Old is the first song that I've downloaded after hearing it for the first time in this topic.

You'd probably like the whole of Anarchy Reign's soundtrack, it's pretty good if you like that sort of music. Also, I should get to my next ranking.
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#94. Apollo Justice ~ I'm Fine
Game: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Dual Destinies
Character: Apollo Justice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pznMi0VqOBY
Nominator: WhiteLens

Song Rating: 4
Character Rating: 5.5

While we're still sitting on a song rating of 4... this one is quite different than others. I really liked this song at the start. It's a beautiful piece that I think presents Apollo well. Shortly after a minute, however... everything goes downhill. First, it cuts the melody and makes a boring moment, then returns to the beginning melody. So... it had an unnecessary bridge to return back to the beginning of the song... and even then it goes back to that bridge towards the end, to return back to the melody so it can... cut itself off? It's a terrible way to continue a song like this. It ruins the song that it started off to be, instead of maybe doing a bit more. Hell, toss some goddamn piano trills in here, it'd work. Not really a music writer so I can't tell you what else they could do, but it wasn't what they did. Oh, I want to say I had to spoiler the picture because it's probably after some case. I think it looks better than simply him copying Phoenix's signature objection... I really should play the PW stuff eventually... just lazy and have to emulate.
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is character rating actually a thing here
because every single one seems to be 5.5
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WickIebee posted...

Secondly, there's a lot of characters I either don't know, or had to scrap what little I know about them to award them a placement. Any character that I deemed having *no* knowledge about, got rated 5.5. This means they're lower than a character I deem average (6/10), but higher than one I dislike. Obviously it rewards those that nominate characters I know more than those that don't... And that works for me, f***ing get into my tastes, my nostalgia tends to get wrapped up into these rankings.

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However, you covered that at the perfect time. As one more for today since I finish my songs with a rating of 4.

#93. The Devil Went Down to Georgia
Game: Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Character: Lou

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89p8ya3ZdnQ
Nominator: azuarc

Song Rating: 4
Character Rating: 6

Similarly to the song before, this rating of 4 isn't because I just don't like it... it's because there are parts I do, but the parts I don't just ruin the song. In the case of this song... it's Guitar Hero. They make the final boss fight be a duel, and create a rock version of a pretty good song. And it actually does well in rock... except for one thing... Guitar solos. The guitar solos are basically "who has the biggest dick" contests because the music no longer has anything to fucking do with the original song. It's utter garbage. The best example is at ~5 minutes. It's almost tempting to believe that I have this rated too highly because I don't... sit in awe over someone's talent with an instrument. The character rating makes this song win out over the other ratings of 4, because he's the first character on this list I actually know. Only thing is... he's the most generic version of the devil you can get, pretty much. His story is half told in a song that already exists, except the fiddle is replaced with a guitar, and then... half doesn't exist. Because he's literally a character created to be a final boss in a game with minimal story. It's fun, but doesn't make him a good character.
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#92. Theme of MODOK
Game: Marvel vs Capcom
Character: MODOK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMc13A8LqaA
Nominator: GavsEvans123

Song Rating: 5
Character Rating: 4

We begin the 5 ratings with Marvel losing to Capcom (I have two MvC songs, one from each side, it's hilarious). MODOK's theme is... just there, to be honest. It gets weird at different points and I forget the name of that specific squeezing electronic sound is, but I never do like it. That noise overall makes it drop to 5, and give us this ranking. The character rating, isn't entirely that I know the character fully, but I dislike what I do know about him. He's a ridiculously ugly, and boring character. He's the only villain after playing MAA that I sat there never understanding whether he even had goals... or what the hell he was even supposed to be. Not that I care, it's a giant head in a floating chair, it's a really terrible design.
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WickIebee posted...

Similarly to the song before, this rating of 4 isn't because I just don't like it... it's because there are parts I do, but the parts I don't just ruin the song. In the case of this song... it's Guitar Hero. They make the final boss fight be a duel, and create a rock version of a pretty good song. And it actually does well in rock... except for one thing... Guitar solos. The guitar solos are basically "who has the biggest dick" contests because the music no longer has anything to fucking do with the original song. It's utter garbage. The best example is at ~5 minutes. It's almost tempting to believe that I have this rated too highly because I don't... sit in awe over someone's talent with an instrument.

Funny, I actually really like the part at 5:00. It's the solos earlier in the song that are a little dubious. However, after watching people get 100% on this song, it's very easy to be entertained by the entire piece because gawddawn that takes some serious mastery of the game.

Now if only I could remember what else I had...looks like Aurora's, Trick and Magic, Anduin's, and either Ken or Guile. Yeah, if this is going to be a straight rank-by-music list, I doubt I'm gonna get too far here, but maybe I'll be surprised. All of them are pretty good to the right person. I just have no idea if Wickle is that person.
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azuarc posted...

looks like Aurora's, Trick and Magic, Anduin's, and either Ken or Guile.

Trick and Magic was Nio's. And you did Ken. The other is Laguna's theme, too lazy to type it fully.
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In any case, to finish off the bottom 10...

#91. Beloved Tomboyish Girl
Game: Touhou 6: the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
Character: Cirno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIZ12EQ2SFg
Nominator: Tom Bombadil

Song Rating: 5
Character Rating: 4

The only EoSD character to show up here, and yet my least favorite for both. Starting on song, it fittingly tries to be ice, but doesn't have the exact charm of an ice song, so I don't appreciate it overall. Just the bridges are not interesting to me, and the melody is not the best. Cirno herself... is just a brat. She's a super strong fairy, strong enough to actually be capable of fighting some youkai, and ends up liking showing off... but she's an idiot. She decides to be mischievous because of her powers, but is fairly easily defeated by either A) Playing around in a fight instead of taking it seriously because she's playing a game with her powers, or B) Someone literally asks her a riddle and she can't solve it. I'm not talking like some Sphynx riddle, no, I mean like the dude throwing his clock out a window. Ya know, the riddles we tried to solve when we were in Elementary school? She can win if someone fights her while she's being serious and they don't manipulate her stupidity, as she has fought and beat most of the human characters and even some youkai... but... 9999999999999999999999999999999999

I don't like her.
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wow I thought Cirno would be right up your alley - spunky and adorable

she is an idiot but that's part of the charm imo
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WickIebee posted...

I don't like her.

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Drakeryn posted...

she is an idiot but that's part of the charm imo

There's a difference regarding that with me. I don't like idiocy as meaning to be charming... if you ever listen to some of my anime rants, you see I tend to hate that sort of thing. There's just much better.
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Nothing today, gonna be too busy.
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Not liking Cirno.
WTF.
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Imagine if her frog freezing was anything else. Say cats. Would you still like her if she froze cats without a certainty of the cat surviving or not?
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They're fictional cats and it's always portrayed in a comedic manner, so perhaps.
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#90. Red-Hot Juice
Game: Devil May Cry
Character: Phantom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP-Yr_VWN6s
Nominator: Snake

Song rating: 5
Character rating: 5

Not much to it, just... it hypes up a little but it's probably heavily drowned out by the sounds of battle and seems like there's no bgm, which is a waste. That was the first write-up I copy-pasted, of course, this sentence and everything onward is new. Phantom himself... is a spider... and a scorpion... it's kind of weird. He has voice lines which makes him more of a character than nothing... but... it's not any special lines. It's basically just "you will lose." standards. But yeah... I hate spiders.
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WickIebee posted...

Imagine if her frog freezing was anything else. Say cats. Would you still like her if she froze cats without a certainty of the cat surviving or not?

I'd be fine with it

I mean, cats are cute, but all things considered I probably like frogs more than cats
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