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Corrik
09/17/17 12:52:33 PM
#177:


StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
charmander6000 posted...
What you said are not laws, Corrik, just social convention.

Where did I say it was a law? It is an understood thing that people didn't think were necessary to be laws because it was pretty common sense.

You said it's all hunky dorry to walk into any bathroom you want. I provided examples of how it is not and consequences that can result from it.


For somebody who has had their entire argument for months be "Well, if it's the law, it's the law," you sure don't seem to care that there aren't any laws suddenly.

What
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Corrik
09/17/17 12:55:44 PM
#178:


It is an understood rule. It is no different than being a guest in someone's house and walking into the bathroom on them.

It is an invasion of privacy of the person/people in question from what is allowable. You will get thrown out of places and even possibly charged for a disturbance of peace depending on the manner of how it actually goes down.
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UltiXX
09/17/17 12:57:58 PM
#179:


Corrik posted...
It is an understood rule. It is no different than being a guest in someone's house and walking into the bathroom on them.

It is an invasion of privacy of the person/people in question from what is allowable. You will get thrown out of places and even possibly charged for a disturbance of peace depending on the manner of how it actually goes down.

Trans and gays have peed next to you in public bro, they just haven't told you.
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Jakyl25
09/17/17 1:00:03 PM
#180:


Corrik posted...
Kenri posted...
weird because the ones "affecting someone else" in this scenario are the people making the shitty anti-trans laws but you don't seem to have an issue with them

*thinking emoji*

The rules are already established. It is transgender people questioning those rules which leads to laws to cement them to clear up any confusion. Not the other way around.


Lie
Lie
Lie
Stop. Lying.
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Reg
09/17/17 1:02:48 PM
#181:


Jakyl25 posted...
Stop. Lying.

When will you people get it through your head that he's not capable of this
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StealThisSheen
09/17/17 1:02:55 PM
#182:


Corrik posted...
It is an understood rule. It is no different than being a guest in someone's house and walking into the bathroom on them.

It is an invasion of privacy of the person/people in question from what is allowable. You will get thrown out of places and even possibly charged for a disturbance of peace depending on the manner of how it actually goes down.


Hate to break it to you, but you've probably had a trans person use the restroom while you were in there atleast once in your life.

Most trans people don't announce that they're trans when they're going into a restroom. They just go in and do their business.

The people raising the stink are the ones suddenly going "Wait, I don't want them in there!" now that it's suddenly a hot topic.
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TheRock1525
09/17/17 1:05:09 PM
#183:


I make sure to announce I'm cisgender in every bathroom I enter.
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Corrik
09/17/17 1:06:26 PM
#184:


UltiXX posted...
Corrik posted...
It is an understood rule. It is no different than being a guest in someone's house and walking into the bathroom on them.

It is an invasion of privacy of the person/people in question from what is allowable. You will get thrown out of places and even possibly charged for a disturbance of peace depending on the manner of how it actually goes down.

Trans and gays have peed next to you in public bro, they just haven't told you.

First of all, gays should be peeing next to me because they are guys.

Second of all, if a woman is peeing next to me and trans then at least they were smart about it and kept their mouth shut to not make a deal out of it.

Like, seriously.

Can you imagine breaking a rule and then complaining that you are going to break the rule and should be allowed to break the rule while doing it?

It would be like me taking an SAT and saying... I am going to look at this person's answers! Oh yes I am. You can't stop me. I am gonna do it.

Instead of you know... just looking and doing it and not saying shit.

Too much of the transgender issue is the stubborness of having to feel empowered to be equal in their minds because they feel inadequate, I guess - (which also may in fact play into the issue of why they are trying to alter themselves from their biological sex in the first place. However I dont feel doing that debate), that these big deals are made over it.

You should go to the restroom indicated for your sex. If you are going to break the rule and think you can get away with it, then just do it and get away with it or reap the consequences.

If going into the women's restroom and peeing standing up with your weiner dangling all over the place is your attempt, then you are gonna get shit for it and weren't discrete enough anyways / nor probably acceptable to be in there with a law saying you could be in there either.
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redrocket_pub
09/17/17 1:08:04 PM
#185:


TheRock1525 posted...
I make sure to announce I'm cisgender in every bathroom I enter.


Even in private homes? Your home?
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StealThisSheen
09/17/17 1:08:21 PM
#186:


Corrik posted...
If going into the women's restroom and peeing standing up with your weiner dangling all over the place is your attempt, then you are gonna get shit for it and weren't discrete enough anyways / nor probably acceptable to be in there with a law saying you could be in there either.


What do you think women's restrooms look like, exactly

Like, do you think they all just hover over holes in the middle of the floor, so that if somebody whipped a dick out, it'd disrupt their circle and everybody'd see it
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Corrik
09/17/17 1:15:29 PM
#187:


StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
If going into the women's restroom and peeing standing up with your weiner dangling all over the place is your attempt, then you are gonna get shit for it and weren't discrete enough anyways / nor probably acceptable to be in there with a law saying you could be in there either.


What do you think women's restrooms look like, exactly

Like, do you think they all just hover over holes in the middle of the floor, so that if somebody whipped a dick out, it'd disrupt their circle and everybody'd see it

Depends on where you are. I know of bathrooms yes that do not have doors on them. Mostly seen in shittier bars.
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Jakyl25
09/17/17 1:22:07 PM
#188:


How do you think trans women pee?

Even if they have a penis, they don't stand up to pee like men.

Cross-dressing men are not transgender women.
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TheRock1525
09/17/17 1:55:21 PM
#189:


Not to change the subject, but Trump said that ESPN was losing subscribers, which is indeed true. But they're losing them at a rate lower than the number of people cutting cable, while their charge per subscriber (i.e. what they charge cable companies to run their channel) has nearly doubled since 2011.
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Jakyl25
09/17/17 1:58:15 PM
#190:


Yeah you can't just "cancel ESPN"

I doubt Trump understands cable/satellite packages
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ChaosTonyV4
09/17/17 1:59:35 PM
#191:


Corrik posted...
If going into the women's restroom and peeing standing up with your weiner dangling all over the place is your attempt, then you are gonna get s*** for it and weren't discrete enough anyways / nor probably acceptable to be in there with a law saying you could be in there either.


The entire post is a disaster, but this part is wild.

Where did this specific example come from?

Do you think transwomen walk into the restroom and just leave their dicks hanging out???
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Jakyl25
09/17/17 2:01:17 PM
#192:


I think he still believes that trans women are just men who decided to be women
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Corrik
09/17/17 2:26:23 PM
#193:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik posted...
If going into the women's restroom and peeing standing up with your weiner dangling all over the place is your attempt, then you are gonna get s*** for it and weren't discrete enough anyways / nor probably acceptable to be in there with a law saying you could be in there either.


The entire post is a disaster, but this part is wild.

Where did this specific example come from?

Do you think transwomen walk into the restroom and just leave their dicks hanging out???

You almost got the point.
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Corrik
09/17/17 2:27:39 PM
#194:


TheRock1525 posted...
Not to change the subject, but Trump said that ESPN was losing subscribers, which is indeed true. But they're losing them at a rate lower than the number of people cutting cable, while their charge per subscriber (i.e. what they charge cable companies to run their channel) has nearly doubled since 2011.

Actually some providers are looking to unbundle espn as a core package as it drives up price of the packages and is not wanted by many. (That said espn is a staple to me)
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DeepsPraw
09/17/17 2:28:01 PM
#195:


Jakyl25 posted...
How do you think trans women pee?

Even if they have a penis, they don't stand up to pee like men.


I bet most do. At home though, not in front of other women
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StealThisSheen
09/17/17 2:30:43 PM
#196:


Corrik posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Not to change the subject, but Trump said that ESPN was losing subscribers, which is indeed true. But they're losing them at a rate lower than the number of people cutting cable, while their charge per subscriber (i.e. what they charge cable companies to run their channel) has nearly doubled since 2011.

Actually some providers are looking to unbundle espn as a core package as it drives up price of the packages and is not wanted by many. (That said espn is a staple to me)


There are several that already do, like Comcast and Dish, but it hasn't made a bigger impact.
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Corrik
09/17/17 2:33:24 PM
#197:


StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Not to change the subject, but Trump said that ESPN was losing subscribers, which is indeed true. But they're losing them at a rate lower than the number of people cutting cable, while their charge per subscriber (i.e. what they charge cable companies to run their channel) has nearly doubled since 2011.

Actually some providers are looking to unbundle espn as a core package as it drives up price of the packages and is not wanted by many. (That said espn is a staple to me)


There are several that already do, like Comcast and Dish, but it hasn't made a bigger impact.

I don't think dish or comcast do unless u are talking basic packages in which they all do.
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TheRock1525
09/17/17 2:36:46 PM
#198:


My point is that ESPN isn't any different than most cable channels being affected by cord cutting.
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StealThisSheen
09/17/17 2:38:13 PM
#199:


Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Not to change the subject, but Trump said that ESPN was losing subscribers, which is indeed true. But they're losing them at a rate lower than the number of people cutting cable, while their charge per subscriber (i.e. what they charge cable companies to run their channel) has nearly doubled since 2011.

Actually some providers are looking to unbundle espn as a core package as it drives up price of the packages and is not wanted by many. (That said espn is a staple to me)


There are several that already do, like Comcast and Dish, but it hasn't made a bigger impact.

I don't think dish or comcast do unless u are talking basic packages in which they all do.


Dish has been doing it for a year, Comcast longer.
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Corrik
09/17/17 2:39:07 PM
#200:


DeepsPraw posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
How do you think trans women pee?

Even if they have a penis, they don't stand up to pee like men.


I bet most do. At home though, not in front of other women

On a side note, more and more men statistically are peeing sitting down compared to prior times and it is speculated to increase health in men to do so.
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Corrik
09/17/17 2:39:53 PM
#201:


StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Not to change the subject, but Trump said that ESPN was losing subscribers, which is indeed true. But they're losing them at a rate lower than the number of people cutting cable, while their charge per subscriber (i.e. what they charge cable companies to run their channel) has nearly doubled since 2011.

Actually some providers are looking to unbundle espn as a core package as it drives up price of the packages and is not wanted by many. (That said espn is a staple to me)


There are several that already do, like Comcast and Dish, but it hasn't made a bigger impact.

I don't think dish or comcast do unless u are talking basic packages in which they all do.


Dish has been doing it for a year, Comcast longer.

Interesting
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StealThisSheen
09/17/17 2:41:43 PM
#202:


Update on that: Dish replaced it with a "Flex pack" that lets you kinda choose channels, since it wasn't selling well. Basically, you start with 50 channels for like, $30 or $40, and then add bundles into it that you want for various prices. Before this, it was basically just their normal thing minus the sports channels.
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Corrik
09/17/17 2:43:46 PM
#203:


StealThisSheen posted...
Update on that: Dish replaced it with a "Flex pack" that lets you kinda choose channels, since it wasn't selling well.

Either way if recent changes then most ppp with existing packages prob dont even know they could drop it. Espn is bundled in so many packages that you get forced into it if you say want fxx or some shit.
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StealThisSheen
09/17/17 2:45:40 PM
#204:


Regardless, ESPN isn't hurting any worse/quicker than most other cable channels, so Trump's comments are silly.
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MoogleKupo141
09/17/17 2:52:42 PM
#205:


Corrik posted...
DeepsPraw posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
How do you think trans women pee?

Even if they have a penis, they don't stand up to pee like men.


I bet most do. At home though, not in front of other women

On a side note, more and more men statistically are peeing sitting down compared to prior times and it is speculated to increase health in men to do so.


"increase health" how

that's a really vague description
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StealThisSheen
09/17/17 2:56:55 PM
#206:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Corrik posted...
DeepsPraw posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
How do you think trans women pee?

Even if they have a penis, they don't stand up to pee like men.


I bet most do. At home though, not in front of other women

On a side note, more and more men statistically are peeing sitting down compared to prior times and it is speculated to increase health in men to do so.


"increase health" how

that's a really vague description


That was all a scam in Europe to try and get men to sit down more for less mess in public restrooms

The only thing sitting does better is help you fully empty your bladder better if you have a UTI
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Jakyl25
09/17/17 8:05:25 PM
#207:


DeepsPraw posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
How do you think trans women pee?

Even if they have a penis, they don't stand up to pee like men.


I bet most do. At home though, not in front of other women


Based on what?
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DeepsPraw
09/17/17 8:10:34 PM
#208:


As someone who has a penis, I can assure you it's by far the best way to urinate.

I suppose if they were super dysphoric and had a complex about it, they might be adverse to it.
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Corrik
09/17/17 8:19:33 PM
#209:


StealThisSheen posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
Corrik posted...
DeepsPraw posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
How do you think trans women pee?

Even if they have a penis, they don't stand up to pee like men.


I bet most do. At home though, not in front of other women

On a side note, more and more men statistically are peeing sitting down compared to prior times and it is speculated to increase health in men to do so.


"increase health" how

that's a really vague description


That was all a scam in Europe to try and get men to sit down more for less mess in public restrooms

The only thing sitting does better is help you fully empty your bladder better if you have a UTI

Basically this. Standing up can cause pressure on your urethra? And some people do not fully empty their bladder which causes UTIs and some other issues. When I went to a urologist earlier this year due to problems I was having, the first thing they suggested was to stop peeing standing up.
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ChaosTonyV4
09/17/17 8:40:28 PM
#210:


One time I dashed out of bed to the bathroom, and while I was peeing standing up I passed out.

Sit to pee, folks.
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Jakyl25
09/17/17 8:44:21 PM
#211:


DeepsPraw posted...
As someone who has a penis, I can assure you it's by far the best way to urinate.


It's very handy in non-toilet situations but as an aging gentleman I'm getting tired of missing the bowl
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Mega Mana
09/17/17 8:55:36 PM
#212:


But do you scream when you pee? That's the most important aspect.
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TheRock1525
09/17/17 9:02:34 PM
#213:


"Us conservatives are totally not obsessed with transgendered people's genitalia, now let's claim that all trans women pee standing up at home."
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Corrik
09/17/17 9:06:05 PM
#214:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
One time I dashed out of bed to the bathroom, and while I was peeing standing up I passed out.

Sit to pee, folks.

It happens
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Jakyl25
09/17/17 9:08:51 PM
#215:


Mega Mana posted...
But do you scream when you pee? That's the most important aspect.


Only as motivation
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Nelson_Mandela
09/17/17 9:15:59 PM
#216:


So the London tube bomber has been identified as a Syrian refugee...
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Panthera
09/17/17 9:19:31 PM
#217:


Mega Mana posted...
But do you scream when you pee? That's the most important aspect.


I loudly narrate the life experiences that led me to realize I was indeed a cisgender man. Believe me my toilet paper holder has gotten itself an earful over the years
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HaRRicH
09/17/17 9:27:52 PM
#218:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
So the London tube bomber has been identified as a Syrian refugee...


I see this about maybe being an Iraqi refugee, not Syrian:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/17/london-subway-bomber-believed-to-be-problematic-iraqi-refugee/

Got a link with more definitive information?
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Nelson_Mandela
09/17/17 9:31:05 PM
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Jakyl25
09/17/17 10:08:32 PM
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I think they've arrested two people so you may both be accurate
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BowserCuffs
09/17/17 10:38:36 PM
#221:


Even if it was a Syrian refugee, so what?

It's not like masses of Syrian refugees are cheering this guy on, congratulating him for acting, and being happy that he acted. No, they're scared shitless of people like that, too.
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CelesMyUserName
09/17/17 10:48:15 PM
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I mean how else is are people gonna get their confirmation bias
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Nelson_Mandela
09/17/17 10:54:18 PM
#223:


Regardless of how fair it is, there will certainly be real world ramifications if he is indeed the bomber
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Jakyl25
09/17/17 10:57:18 PM
#224:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Regardless of how fair it is, there will certainly be real world ramifications if he is indeed the bomber


Such as?
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Nelson_Mandela
09/17/17 11:00:06 PM
#225:


Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Regardless of how fair it is, there will certainly be real world ramifications if he is indeed the bomber


Such as?

Right wing politicians insisting that it validates their xenophobic immigration policies and potentially garnering enough public support to restrict even further
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CelesMyUserName
09/17/17 11:11:08 PM
#226:


Yeah we can probably all agree with that outlook, whether we think it's rational or not.
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