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Corrik 09/16/17 9:21:11 PM #127: |
Kenri posted...
weird because the ones "affecting someone else" in this scenario are the people making the shitty anti-trans laws but you don't seem to have an issue with them The rules are already established. It is transgender people questioning those rules which leads to laws to cement them to clear up any confusion. Not the other way around. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/16/17 9:26:08 PM #128: |
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/909161469828313088 Shaggy 2 Dope delivers a plea for total inclusion: "If a ninja has a soul, then a ninja matters immensely." Then he mentions buttholes. How is this thing not top headlines everywhere? --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/16/17 9:28:06 PM #129: |
Corrik posted...
The rules are already established. It is transgender people questioning those rules which leads to laws to cement them to clear up any confusion. Not the other way around. FFDragon posted... I am also not an authority on trans issues, but I know (in Maryland at least) that they can get updated birth certificates reflecting their new gender. Are you saying that these people shouldn't follow the laws for what is on their birth certificates? --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/16/17 9:32:04 PM #130: |
FFDragon posted...
Corrik posted...The rules are already established. It is transgender people questioning those rules which leads to laws to cement them to clear up any confusion. Not the other way around. He is mentioning a liberal state which as you would say is "moving the goalposts". That said, if the state populace believes that enough that they have put it into law then it should be abided by as long as the populace supports it (if not they should work to have it changed). Society shapes laws over time. Do I agree with the law or policy or such? No. You have incontrovertible proof otherwise. But, that state has the right to do things as its society wishes. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/16/17 9:34:02 PM #131: |
he is me
and it isn't moving the goalposts to talk about the only state I have knowledge about >_> --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kenri 09/16/17 9:35:03 PM #132: |
Corrik posted...
The rules are already established. They were established about what people did in the bedroom as of pretty recently too?? what point are you even trying to make here --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/16/17 9:35:30 PM #133: |
FFDragon posted...
he is me I said the state itself is moving the goalposts. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/16/17 9:36:54 PM #134: |
Oh. Well Pennsylvania allows it too, and I don't think that's a liberal state.
--- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/16/17 9:38:32 PM #135: |
Kenri posted...
Corrik posted...The rules are already established. You can't dictate what you do sexually orientationwise in the bedroom like that. I highly doubt you can pull something up that says otherwise. Most stuff is in regards to public things regarding it. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/16/17 9:39:32 PM #136: |
FFDragon posted...
Oh. Well Pennsylvania allows it too, and I don't think that's a liberal state. More liberal than not though I find that super surprising. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 09/16/17 9:39:53 PM #137: |
Corrik can I ask what your actual complaint is?
Are you just against the changing "established rules"? --- Phantom Dust. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kenri 09/16/17 9:41:26 PM #138: |
Corrik posted...
You can't dictate what you do sexually orientationwise in the bedroom like that. ??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States this shit was only struck down in 2003 and it still pops up in different forms now and again --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/16/17 9:46:13 PM #139: |
Corrik posted...
More liberal than not though I find that super surprising. It is a recent-ish change apparently. Laws slowly catching up. Pennsylvania Birth Certificate Laws --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/16/17 9:47:47 PM #140: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik can I ask what your actual complaint is? What do you mean? --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 09/16/17 9:50:59 PM #141: |
Corrik posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...Corrik can I ask what your actual complaint is? Specifically, why are you against allowing transwomen into women's restrooms and transmen into men's? --- Phantom Dust. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/16/17 9:51:27 PM #142: |
Oh hey I found a handy map -- Only four states do not allow you to change your birth certificate: Idaho, Kansas, Ohio, and Tennessee.
--- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/16/17 9:51:47 PM #143: |
FFDragon posted...
Corrik posted...More liberal than not though I find that super surprising. I think that is a stupid law and will argue against it whenever I can, but the law is the law. You can't make that law and then argue a transgender person can't use the opposite sex locker room or compete in their sports then. Very short sighted law and silly law. Might as well have men going to the Women's Olympics now and decimating all those records and shit. Nothing is going to be safe with naive laws such as those. Whatever. Society will have to just realize this over time and slowly phase it out. (I fear for a society that continues to shift in that direction over time). --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/16/17 9:54:37 PM #144: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik posted...ChaosTonyV4 posted...Corrik can I ask what your actual complaint is? You must not be reading if you got that. I said I could care less if the law states they can. I said they shouldn't be allowed to as they should have to use the bathroom for their dictated sex. Just like you shouldn't be allowed to change your birth certificate. It is so revisionist as fuck that its mind blowing. Now, if a man looks so much like a woman that they can go into the restroom and no one know the difference then I mean how would someone even know unless they were flaunting their shit around? Which even if you were flaunting your shit around in the correct restroom, you are just as likely to offend someone as otherwise. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 09/16/17 9:56:28 PM #145: |
No dude, you must not be reading because I didn't ask you anything about the law.
I asked specifically why are you against it. --- Phantom Dust. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 09/16/17 9:57:43 PM #146: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
No dude, you must not be reading because I didn't ask you anything about the law. I don't think you understand corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/16/17 9:58:01 PM #147: |
Well in 46/50 states (well 45 since while it is legal in Texas they apparently make it a real hassle) they can get their dictated sex to match their identity and therefore comply with laws.
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Kenri 09/16/17 9:58:58 PM #148: |
idk if it's just me but the phrase "dictated sex" just sounds authoritarian as all fuck
some real nightmare shit --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/16/17 9:59:52 PM #149: |
I'm assuming he's using that interchangeably with 'legally recognized sex.' Which is what birth certificates reflect.
--- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/16/17 10:00:44 PM #150: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
No dude, you must not be reading because I didn't ask you anything about the law. For the 4th time. I could care less personally. If the law allows them to, then so be it. They shouldn't be based upon biological nature which is clearly, incontrovertibly shown at birth and the fact that bathrooms clearly dictate which sex they are to be used by. But, I am not going to be upset it they are allowed to. The simplest solution is to have a men's room, a women's room, and a family/unisex room. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Not_an_Owl 09/16/17 11:15:54 PM #151: |
Corrik posted...
I think that is a stupid law and will argue against it whenever I can, but the law is the law. You can't make that law and then argue a transgender person can't use the opposite sex locker room or compete in their sports then. Very short sighted law and silly law. holy shit you guys we found the one issue upon which corrik's default stance is not "fuck you, obey the law" --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 09/16/17 11:22:18 PM #152: |
I'd like to point out a transgender woman actually competes in UFC and lost once. They had rules and regulations on what she had to do before she could compete.
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TheRock1525 09/17/17 12:28:05 AM #153: |
So first amendment and boobs guy is a complete piece of shit.
Wrote a great book with some excerpts like: "Libraries and hospitals are the two hardest places to pick up chicks. This is because women are usually sober and/or dying. At a library, wait in the self-help aisle until a hot chick walks by and then cry while you read some book called What She Really Means: Understanding Women and Their Mangled Vaginas. At a hospital, go straight for the rape victims and offer your protection. Cha-ching." "Age of consent is only an issue if you actually have sex. Looking is no crime." "If you remember nothing else from this book, make this phrase your credo: All women are sluts, some just don’t know it yet." "A woman’s self-esteem is like a roller coaster: the faster it drops, the more fun you have." Of course he claims it's "satire" so I guess that makes it ok. Good job screening this guy, CNN. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kenri 09/17/17 12:38:24 AM #154: |
TheRock1525 posted...
"Age of consent is only an issue if you actually have sex. Looking is no crime." pro-boob guy being a pedophile is the most shocking plot twist of the year --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 09/17/17 1:37:10 AM #155: |
wait
are there even laws enforcing bathroom divides? I thought North Carolina had to specifically introduce a bill to keep trans people out of the other bathroom. That would suggest it was legal for trans people to use the bathroom they wanted to use before that bill. Corrik should be pro-trans people in whatever bathroom in that case. --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trdl23 09/17/17 1:51:30 AM #156: |
Kenri posted...
TheRock1525 posted..."Age of consent is only an issue if you actually have sex. Looking is no crime." I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or highlighting the irony. --- E come vivo? Vivo! "nice job. that's a very board 8-ish thing to do - aggressive laziness followed by unusual persistence" -transience ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kenri 09/17/17 1:54:59 AM #157: |
trdl23 posted...
Kenri posted...TheRock1525 posted..."Age of consent is only an issue if you actually have sex. Looking is no crime." The latter though honestly it was a tough call on my end too. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 09/17/17 1:56:53 AM #158: |
who is this boobs man we're discussing
--- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 09/17/17 3:06:00 AM #159: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
wait Its an unwritten rule - though a male barging into a women's restroom might be charged with sexual harassment under the right circumstances (i e hes being a peeping tom or something) North Carolina found itself in this position because the City of Charlotte passed an ordinance affirming that transgender people could not be discriminated against, arrested, or harassed for using the bathroom of their choice in public buildings. The state then said that it was now state law that whatever your BIOLOGICAL sex was determined whuch restroom you could use. It also barred any city in the state from passing an ordinance that would effect local employment laws to blanket ban any sort of workaround measure. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UltiXX 09/17/17 8:14:59 AM #160: |
You guys will never believe this, but there are NYT authors hating on a kid mowing lawns.
It's almost like I've been right the entire time or something. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UltiXX 09/17/17 8:17:08 AM #161: |
trdl23 posted...
Kenri posted...TheRock1525 posted..."Age of consent is only an issue if you actually have sex. Looking is no crime." Are democrats still pretending to be offended over that interview? These are the same people who marched by the millions wearing vag outfits and proving to the world why no one else takes them seriously. Liberals do not care what gets said, only who says it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 09/17/17 9:25:53 AM #162: |
You having fun?
--- **** Netflix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UltiXX 09/17/17 9:44:05 AM #163: |
https://twitter.com/greenhousenyt/status/908685719178301440
I did chores as a child. They included yardwork and mowing lawns for myself and neighbors, and I eventually bought a Super Nintendo with the money I made. I thought I was learning work ethic and the value of money but APPARENTLY NOT SOMEONE ARREST MY FAMILY OH THE HORROR ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UltiXX 09/17/17 10:00:39 AM #164: |
Guys, you might get hurt at some point so you should never do anything.
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kevwaffles 09/17/17 10:12:57 AM #165: |
UltiXX posted...
You guys will never believe this You pretty much didn't need to write anything after this. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shaduln 09/17/17 11:47:10 AM #166: |
Corrik posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...No dude, you must not be reading because I didn't ask you anything about the law. So you care some about it if you could care less. --- GameFlux: Unofficial GameFAQs board browser ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/17/17 12:06:48 PM #167: |
Shaduln posted...
Corrik posted...ChaosTonyV4 posted...No dude, you must not be reading because I didn't ask you anything about the law. ... lol --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trdl23 09/17/17 12:13:07 PM #168: |
Corrik posted...
Shaduln posted...Corrik posted...ChaosTonyV4 posted...No dude, you must not be reading because I didn't ask you anything about the law. For once the "lol" response from Corrik is 100% warranted. --- E come vivo? Vivo! "nice job. that's a very board 8-ish thing to do - aggressive laziness followed by unusual persistence" -transience ... Copied to Clipboard!
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charmander6000 09/17/17 12:16:38 PM #169: |
Seems like you guys had quite a discussion yesterday.
I can also confirm that outside of maybe a few recent changes in some places that in the US there is no gender/sex requirement of using a specific washroom. It's why no woman using the men's washroom has ever been arrested despite the trope of them using it over a crowded women's washroom. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kinglicious 09/17/17 12:24:50 PM #170: |
The general social rule has been women can use the men's room sometimes but unless it's a major emergency or maybe something like a father with a scared daughter the women's room is off limits.
That's also why you'll see a large number of women who oppose trans bathrooms - most of them are male to female and it's a lot harder for a guy to pass as a girl over a girl passing as a guy. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 09/17/17 12:27:02 PM #171: |
Donald Trump went on a retweet spree
here's a gif that makes it look like he's knocking Hillary out with a golf ball https://twitter.com/fuctupmind/status/908163011793358848 --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 09/17/17 12:31:39 PM #172: |
charmander6000 posted...
Seems like you guys had quite a discussion yesterday. This is relatively untrue. If your little boy/older boy goes into the girls restroom at school, it is likely your son is getting suspended. There are times where someone breaks the rule and uses the opposing restroom because it is an emergency / mostly because little kids who can't go alone (which is why the family restrooms have popped up much more frequently lately in addition to men and women rooms). If you are a man and you go into the womens restroom with a bunch of women in it and with no viable reason for not using the mens room, you are likely getting tossed from the establishment or worse. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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charmander6000 09/17/17 12:34:41 PM #173: |
What you said are not laws, Corrik, just social convention.
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Corrik 09/17/17 12:41:58 PM #174: |
charmander6000 posted...
What you said are not laws, Corrik, just social convention. Where did I say it was a law? It is an understood thing that people didn't think were necessary to be laws because it was pretty common sense. You said it's all hunky dorry to walk into any bathroom you want. I provided examples of how it is not and consequences that can result from it. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 09/17/17 12:48:34 PM #175: |
Corrik posted...
charmander6000 posted...What you said are not laws, Corrik, just social convention. For somebody who has had their entire argument for months be "Well, if it's the law, it's the law," you sure don't seem to care that there aren't any laws suddenly. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UltiXX 09/17/17 12:49:47 PM #176: |
I have never understood caring about where someone pees.
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