Board 8 > Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Topic 37 - Aria of Sorrow

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voltch
09/26/17 7:34:46 AM
#413:


1m short, uh oh don't think im gonna make it.
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RaidenZeroX
09/26/17 8:28:11 AM
#414:


I hate the raid because I can't just repeat, but I love the raid because I'm up to almost 20,000,000 gil. Selling raid coins is the way to go.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 10:22:11 AM
#415:


god evasion Noctis in arena is so annoying

yeah it's cool, I wanted this to take 10 turns
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RaidenZeroX
09/26/17 10:29:06 AM
#416:


That's why the best arena team is a group of magic nukers. There isn't enough magic evade at this point to make them useless.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 10:32:52 AM
#417:


yeah I should probably level more ashes
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Horith
09/26/17 11:31:51 AM
#418:


Victoria does wonders too. Soon as I level my second one, Overflow chaining for days. Right now my only leveled one is blasting things with DC Firaja, which works pretty darn well too. And I've had to use DC Meteor as well because of obnoxious elemental resists. Really, Victoria is just an awesome arena nuker.

Or Shantotto, I guess she slaughters things too.
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Fiyun
09/26/17 12:19:52 PM
#419:


Horith posted...


Or Shantotto, I guess she slaughters things too.


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RaidenZeroX
09/26/17 12:36:36 PM
#420:


I use Tilith and 4 Ashe. Haven't lost since I put Tilith in.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 12:37:47 PM
#421:


I keep a Ling for status effects because she's immune herself, and she can wipe petrification.
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Fiyun
09/26/17 12:41:20 PM
#422:


RaidenZeroX posted...
I use Tilith and 4 Ashe. Haven't lost since I put Tilith in.


You can take 2 2xdual slash to the face?
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RaidenZeroX
09/26/17 1:58:36 PM
#423:


Fiyun posted...
RaidenZeroX posted...
I use Tilith and 4 Ashe. Haven't lost since I put Tilith in.


You can take 2 2xdual slash to the face?


Easily. Everyone is status immune with 6k minimum HP (and that's just one of the Ashe's, everyone else is above 7k. Love all the HP boosting TMRs from Nier). I just repeat 4x Heaven's Fury, and only use Tilith if a Rem shows up and does Siphon Delta. It's been around a month since I put Tilith in and I haven't had a round last more than 2 turns (and that's only when someone has a mass HP Wilhelm or WoL in there) where I wasn't stopped. Stops have taken no more than 5 turns if they hit. If I get Ayaka, I'm never going to lose in the arena again.

If you can build a team of magic nukers, that's so much faster than playing around with status and arena cancer stops. I was doing the same basic strategy when I had my Exdeath/Dark Fina/Trance Terra army in there, but that was prior to having status immunity stuff.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/26/17 2:50:27 PM
#424:


I've failed 5 times on Aigaion now, barely breaking 80% threshold on the main body. I've been using A2, 2B, Elza, Rikku, and Tilith, and either a 2B or an A2 friend. My A2 has 909 attack, and 2B has 735 attack, so usually the friend I bring has over 1k attack and is the target for the ohko damage.

None of the exvius wiki strategies list A2 or 2B units, so I've just been spamming Offensive Heal Combo and (Extract) Speed every turn. Sadly, even with Overdrive Fist and Mog Wisdom, my Rikku isn't getting enough LB crystals each turn to do Reraise, so after turn 1 I'm already struggling with attrition.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 3:02:29 PM
#425:


You're not going to have Rikku's LB every turn unless you bring two of them. OHC is correct for A2, it's what I used. If you're going to use A2, you really need a unit that can cast auto-res on her, like Rem or enchanced Vanille. Otherwise you're going to have to gimp her too much and won't be able to out-damage the healing the body gets (assuming you're going for the quick kill).

I think I used Rikku/Rem/WoL/Tilith/A2/A2 when I did it. Save Rikku's LB for when he does World Destoyer, and otherwise keep up Hyper-Null-All at all times. Tilith is your healer/mana battery, so try to be careful with managing her MP (unless you're recovering 99/turn, then whatever).
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/26/17 3:32:57 PM
#426:


I don't have Rem or a leveled Vanille. Should I drop A2 and put all her gear on 2B and try to do two 2Bs, Rikku, Tilith, and someone else and a third 2B through friends?

I have Elza, Marie, Ace, WoL, Fryevia, Ashe, Maxwell, and maybe a few other options from the Notable Units from the wiki. Should I avoid the burst strategy and do Slow and Steady instead?
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 3:36:59 PM
#427:


Well, 2B will have the same issue. How high of an ATK can you get your Elza up to (who I'm assuming you're using as your sacrificial lamb)? It's probably going to be tough to find a friend unit 2B with a lower attack than that.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/26/17 3:44:43 PM
#428:


I wasn't using Elza as a sacrifice actually, she was there for Enhanced Ravaging Blow. I can get her to 800+ Attack with doublehand, so I assume I could get her a bit higher if I give her one of my Dual Wields.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 3:46:07 PM
#429:


? Then how you were handling the OHKO each turn? Just letting A2 die and reviving her each turn?
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/26/17 3:51:15 PM
#430:


The Mana Sword posted...
? Then how you were handling the OHKO each turn? Just letting A2 die and reviving her each turn?

Yeah, my hopes were to build Rikku's LB every turn and then use Auto-Raise, but that hasn't been working. I'm not getting enough LB crystals. It is one of the suggested methods listed on the wiki though to use Rikku's Reraise every turn.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 3:58:51 PM
#431:


Yeah, that's tough to pull off without a lot of TMRs though. You really either need an auto-revive unit with the highest ATK (Elza/Maxwell/King), or someone who can cast auto-revive on your strongest unit (Rem/Vanille/Meliadoul) so they can tank that hit.

Seems like Elza is your best bet there, so I'd see how high you can get her ATK, and then try to adjust your 2B and pick a friend 2B accordingly.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/26/17 4:16:38 PM
#432:


Might just be easier to run...

Elza
Tilith
Ace
Rikku/Marie
Fryevia
Friend Fryevia

... and go Slow and Steady I guess.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 4:25:30 PM
#433:


Oh, yeah if you have access to Fryevia then she's a better option than A2 for that fight. Not only do you not have to worry about her ATK being too high, but Aigaion can be SPR broken too.

I think I'd go Elza for rereaise every turn, Rikku for Hyper-Null + limit burst on World Destroyer turns, Tilith for heals/mana battery, 2x Fry for damage and then your 5th slot can probably be whoever. Like I said, I used WoL, but you can use whatever you think fills a slot you're missing. You should be able to do the fast method this way as long as the Frys have high enough MAG.
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crazygamer999
09/26/17 5:43:32 PM
#434:


The team I had for robo was Maxwell for Re-raise shenanagans, Rikku to tank World Destroyer, Tillith for heals and mana, double Fry for damage and WoL for tanking.

With double Fry's at maybe 750-800 mag, you might go for the quick route, but otherwise, yea, Slow and Steady works just as well.

If you do the Quick route, however, knock the Left Arm to below 50% at least once( and preferably as low as you can after wards without killing it) before you kill the body to burn one of its heals and have less when it heals again after killing the body.
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Wanglicious
09/26/17 5:55:14 PM
#435:


i stand by you really should just gear your Elza or 2B for attack the most. both can auto-raise. Rikku is the backup plan for anyone else dying, self-revival is the plan to continue the fight.
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crazygamer999
09/26/17 6:42:55 PM
#436:


Wanglicious posted...
i stand by you really should just gear your Elza or 2B for attack the most. both can auto-raise. Rikku is the backup plan for anyone else dying, self-revival is the plan to continue the fight.


Yeap. You almost need either a single re-raiser(Vanille or Rem, or Meliadoul, etc.) or a self-re raiser(Maxwell, King, Elza, etc.) to tank the right arm OHKO.

A tank that can 100% provoke(WoL, Wilhelm) can help as well, since they can get pressure off your OHKO bait if you can't get a Re-raise on them and you can just raise the tank once you get the re-raise up.

And, unless you can tank WD( and you won't at this stage of GL, trust me and the water damage decrease only works every three times before you get a counterattack) or can kill the body realllly quickly past the 70% threshold( either first in the Quick method or after the Right Arm in the S&S method), Rikku is invaluable.
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GANON1025
09/26/17 7:18:59 PM
#437:


Here's what the new halloween units are going to look like:

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ChaosTonyV4
09/26/17 7:21:01 PM
#438:


Pirate Jake's 6* looks pretty awesome.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 8:01:18 PM
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ChaosTonyV4
09/26/17 8:10:26 PM
#440:


Woah the 5* base Ariana is gonna be a gacha draw? That's weird.
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WhiteLens
09/26/17 8:13:41 PM
#441:


Is this when I tell @NioraptH to come back?
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/26/17 11:12:08 PM
#443:


I'm still failing badly at this. I lose at the very least two units per turn not including Elza who self revives... And she has been killed and then killed again in the same turn.

Team:
Elza
Fry
Rikku
Ace
Tilith
Friend Fry

First turn:
Elza - self revive
Tilith - celestial light
Rikku - synthesis
Ace - spirit hand
Fry + Fry - blitz left arm

Aigaion takes his turn and Ace and at least one Fry is usually dead. So I need to multi revive, heal, and get hyper null all down, which isn't possible, so I revive and heal/null, and lose 2 more units next turn anyways.

I've spent in total 350 energy on this and still haven't felt like I've made a dent in it.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 11:18:58 PM
#444:


Try WoL instead of Ace maybe?
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/26/17 11:35:31 PM
#445:


Ace is my mana battery though. Tilith's Mana Battery function seems like it could be problematic.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/17 11:43:59 PM
#446:


It depends on her recovery. I was able to manage with around 68 recovery per turn. Needed a few elixirs here and there but it worked alright.
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crazygamer999
09/27/17 1:22:17 AM
#447:


The Mana Sword posted...
Try WoL instead of Ace maybe?

Yea, best call would be to drop the Ace if you're having trouble with survival and get WoL.

And, unless you need to boost Elza's atk to make it the highest, make her as tanky as possible.
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voltch
09/27/17 1:52:52 AM
#448:


May have to pull a bit on the Halloween banner. Some of those units look nice, if I have to wait until February for Beatrix, eesh that's a long wait, at that point I'll have so many tickets it might be worth it to just hold out until the 3% change.

Minerva Bustier should be completed today
Quick Assault #2 30%

Next is either Champion's Belt #3, Vanille TMR #2, Ashe's Ring or HP 30%.

Might go with the latter so WoL will be better equipped for Aigaion.
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The Mana Sword
09/27/17 6:36:05 AM
#449:


Got a rainbow from my 10+1 ticket!

Just a dupe Ramza :(
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voltch
09/27/17 6:40:16 AM
#450:


Two whole brave suits!
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The Mana Sword
09/27/17 6:41:53 AM
#451:


Yeah I suppose it couldve been worse.

Also still no announcement wtf gumi
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RaidenZeroX
09/27/17 7:31:21 AM
#452:


BakusaiTenketsu posted...
Ace is my mana battery though. Tilith's Mana Battery function seems like it could be problematic.


When I went through the trial, my Tilith was getting around 50 MP back per turn, and I had no issues at all with MP. I went the body first route with Fry, and the battle took about an hour.
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ChaosTonyV4
09/27/17 3:58:23 PM
#453:


The Mana Sword posted...
Got a rainbow from my 10+1 ticket!

Just a dupe Ramza :(


Wait how do you have your 10+1 already? It's only the 27th!
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RaidenZeroX
09/27/17 4:00:24 PM
#454:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Wait how do you have your 10+1 already? It's only the 27th!


We got one from a fan fest reward this morning. Saving it for the minimal chance of Ayaka once she's here, even though the smart move would be to wait for the rate up.
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WhiteLens
09/27/17 4:47:20 PM
#455:


If you wanted to see the main trio look more anime, this is what they look like on the Star Ocean side of the collab:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s91JCnVX_gQ


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ChaosTonyV4
09/27/17 5:19:24 PM
#456:


Damn Lasswell looks badass.
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WhiteLens
09/27/17 9:16:50 PM
#457:


They were given voices in that Star Ocean game as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFtd33MsuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpVY9x8zGB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOKpxjUBX78


Just skip to the end to see their special move.

I see they gave Fina a bit of PLOT.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/27/17 10:52:11 PM
#458:


So I opted to remove equipment from everyone, and I reorganized my team for Aigaion to be:

Maxwell
Warrior of Light
Ace
Rikku
Tilith
Friend Fryevia

I am doing the Slow and Steady approach since I don't think I can do Brute Force since I don't really have the high end TMRs to really tackle something like that I think.

Maxwell is geared to have over 7k hp and 500 Attack.
Warrior of Light has 500 Defense and over 300 Spirit I believe, and 7100 hp.
Ace has modest magic, and then geared out to have 6k hp.
Rikku has Bushido-Freedom, and 6400 hp.
Tilith has 6k hp, 516 mp.
Friend Fry has over 800 Magic and 4700 hp.

Right now, I am just spamming repeat for who knows how long:
Maxwell - Self Revive
WoL - Light is With Us
Ace - Spirit Hand
Rikku - Bushido-Freedom
Tilith - Radiant Light
Fryevia - Frost Flower Blitz

Been at it about 10 minutes now, still working on the first left arm of ten, and it's at 69% lol.

4 Hours seems like it might be about right as the average for the Slow and Steady Method... and I don't have the ability to Macro, so I am just tapping repeat with my Thumb while trying to multi-task.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/27/17 11:21:18 PM
#459:


First left arm down, 9 more times to go. Fryevia still died 3 times, and Ace died 4 times.

However, I had a new problem...
Maxwell apparently died and then died again because she's dead, and I had to get creative getting her back up. I had to have Rikku use Mega Phoenix every turn while Fry started targeting Aigaion's main body to get so LB crystals. Once Rikku had her LB, I had WoL use a Phoenix Down on Maxwell, and then used Rikku's LB to get the cycle back in order.

I'm concerned if this happens too frequently, this will be a huge waste of time.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/27/17 11:28:59 PM
#460:


Ok, it happened again, about 8 turns later. Maxwell has 7197 hp, and self revives with 5700 hp, but she's still getting hit for enough to be killed directly after, even with WoL tanking every turn. I'm getting a bit frustrated at this.
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Fiyun
09/28/17 12:44:51 AM
#461:


BakusaiTenketsu posted...
Ok, it happened again, about 8 turns later. Maxwell has 7197 hp, and self revives with 5700 hp, but she's still getting hit for enough to be killed directly after, even with WoL tanking every turn. I'm getting a bit frustrated at this.


This is why Crowe's TMR would help since you need to adjust Maxwell's hp & spr values for Genocide Beams.
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