Board 8 > NBA Offseason Discussion - Where Mikhail Prokhorov Happens

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TheRock1525
07/04/12 12:39:00 AM
#51:


I've yet to see these skills, to be honest. All I see is another "PG of the future" that'll likely fail miserably at the point guard part. Maybe he becomes a solid player, but he is not a PG.

I do agree that Monroe needs a bigger role in the offense.

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voltch
07/04/12 5:30:00 PM
#52:


So uh Lakers huh.

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Sorozone
07/04/12 5:30:00 PM
#53:


Nash to Lakers.

Wonder how many games he'll last without the PHX training staff.
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TheConductorSix
07/04/12 5:30:00 PM
#54:


WOW.

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voltch
07/04/12 5:44:00 PM
#55:


Where Lakers happens?

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SirDiemsma
07/04/12 5:45:00 PM
#56:


fffffffffff

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KokoroAkechi
07/04/12 5:47:00 PM
#57:


How did it come to this

>.>

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blindhobo13
07/04/12 5:47:00 PM
#58:


this is garbage

i am so mad
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neonreap
07/04/12 5:55:00 PM
#59:


the second he started saying he could never put on a Lakers uniform, I knew he was going there.

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transcience
07/04/12 6:02:00 PM
#60:


wow, Nash to Lakers is a soul-crushing blow. I loved cheering for him. was really hoping he'd go to Toronto.

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Dr_Football
07/04/12 6:10:00 PM
#61:


At the least this doesn't make the lakers better than the thunder

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Achromatic
07/04/12 6:11:00 PM
#62:


From: Dr_Football | #061
At the least this doesn't make the lakers better than the thunder


That would take a time machine to 2005 for Kobe.

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Sorozone
07/04/12 6:16:00 PM
#63:


Since it's a sign & trade does Nash have the majority of the power?

I mean, overall, it doesn't make much sense from the Suns standpoint. Other than getting something or nothing. Draft picks, especially in the later rounds tend to be a lot more hit and miss.
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SirDiemsma
07/04/12 6:18:00 PM
#64:


i think that's the idea sorozone

because nash could have signed with the lakers without any sacrifice from the lakers too

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Mershaaay
07/04/12 6:19:00 PM
#65:


lol Nash becoming Karl Malone 2.0

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ExThaNemesis
07/04/12 6:27:00 PM
#66:


From: TheConductorSix | #043
only the best sports game of all time: NBA2k12.

The 2K franchise single handedly ended NBA Live and all other basketball games because it's nearly flawless.

getting first rounders is hard though because the cpu isn't stupid, though you can turn Force Trade on and make them trade you


you can turn on force trades? OMG.

Going to get this game tomorrow IMO.

Also can you import draft classes for consecutive years? Like do last year's draft class for one year then this year's for the next?

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Dr_Football
07/04/12 8:29:00 PM
#67:


Thunder clinch title, sign thabeet

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TheConductorSix
07/05/12 12:24:00 AM
#68:


One of the main reasons NBA2k series crapped on other games is because of the user created content.

People custom make draft classes to the tee---And when I say custom make, I mean people spend 10-12 hours making the facial features of even 2nd Round picks from colleges you've never heard of---and you can download them directly from the game.

They're even rated based on how good they are so you can download the best one. NBA2k13 is coming soon so you might wanna wait for that. If not, 2k12 is on the cheap and the Anthony Davis draft class is already uploaded.

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TheConductorSix
07/05/12 12:29:00 AM
#69:


1.If you like Steve Nash then you should LOVE this move. His best chances for a title were:

Thunder(already have a PG)
Heat(Can't afford him)
Spurs(already have a PG)
Boston(already have a PG)
Chicago(Already have a PG)

The Lakers were the best option.

2.The Lakers could've won Games 2 and 4 against Oklahoma City. Don't forget this. Nash can't play defense but neither could Sessions. The difference is is that Nash adds EVERYTHING the Lakers need:

Fast Break(we've been bottom of the league for years)
Pick and Roll(Again, piss poor)
The ability to pass to Bynum/Pau in good situations
Penetration not involving Kobe/Someone to bring the ball up not named Kobe

and most importantly, SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY SHOOT. We can spread the floor now. No more collapsing the paint against Kobe/Bynum.


This is literally the best day of the year. The Lakers just went from 16-1 to 8-1 for the title

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Dr_Football
07/05/12 12:45:00 AM
#70:


not worried

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Menji76
07/05/12 12:47:00 AM
#71:


LAKERS

you scared now

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TheRock1525
07/05/12 1:29:00 PM
#72:


If Kobe actually wants to play alongside Nash and realize he's going to be used more off the ball and spot up.

If he still insists on dominating the ball, the Lakers aren't going anywhere.

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Mershaaay
07/05/12 1:33:00 PM
#73:


sorry guys but the Lakers will not win a championship unless they hire an elite coach who can re-strategize with an aging Kobe

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KokoroAkechi
07/05/12 1:50:00 PM
#74:


Jason Kidds said to be leaving Dallas to go to the Knicks

WUT

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Dr_Football
07/05/12 1:54:00 PM
#75:


poor Mavs
No one wants to play with Dirk

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Dr_Football
07/05/12 2:16:00 PM
#76:


Also, lets start coming up with fake trades to get Dirk out of Dallas

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Iamdead7
07/05/12 2:17:00 PM
#77:


Dirk for Kevin Love

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TheRock1525
07/05/12 2:17:00 PM
#78:


to detroit for charlie villanueva, tayshaun prince, and jason maxiel

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Mershaaay
07/05/12 2:18:00 PM
#79:


KokoroAkechi posted...
Jason Kidds said to be leaving Dallas to go to the Knicks

WUT


ya go my knicks lets sign the oldest player in the league instead of focusing on young talent

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voltch
07/05/12 2:27:00 PM
#80:


Dirk for Gay

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SirDiemsma
07/05/12 5:19:00 PM
#81:


TheRock1525 posted...
If Kobe actually wants to play alongside Nash and realize he's going to be used more off the ball and spot up.

If he still insists on dominating the ball, the Lakers aren't going anywhere.


let's be honest though - kobe's the team's best shot-creator. the guy's got a surprisingly high bball iq (just an even huger ego) - i think there will be predictable friction but that he'll be smart enough to know how he's best used. i mean he takes those garbage contested shots all the time but you gotta remember, he does it because he can make them

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CherryCokes
07/05/12 7:24:00 PM
#82:


Celtics resigned Bass

Good move, Danny

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KokoroAkechi
07/05/12 7:36:00 PM
#83:


Reports that Lin is set to sign with the Rockets

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TheRock1525
07/05/12 9:00:00 PM
#84:


SirDiemsma posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
If Kobe actually wants to play alongside Nash and realize he's going to be used more off the ball and spot up.

If he still insists on dominating the ball, the Lakers aren't going anywhere.


let's be honest though - kobe's the team's best shot-creator. the guy's got a surprisingly high bball iq (just an even huger ego) - i think there will be predictable friction but that he'll be smart enough to know how he's best used. i mean he takes those garbage contested shots all the time but you gotta remember, he does it because he can make them


Does he make them? Kobe is coming off his lowest TS% and eFG% for his career. His eFG% from 3-15 feet is down quite a bit and he's taking more shots outside of 16-23 feet (7.7 per game, the highest since 2007) he's taking 4.9 threes per game and hitting them at his lowest eFG% in the past 5 seasons.

You lived with the bad shooting because he shot .550-.560 for TS% (which is good for a shooting guard) but when it dips below .530 it's troubling.

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SirDiemsma
07/06/12 3:52:00 AM
#85:


3 years for bass bothers me. i was also hoping (probably against sense) we could flip him for someone of more value like jsmoove.

kobe's not making them like he used to, but it's partially because he takes them at bad times. quite obviously he'd be making them at higher rates if they weren't pullup contested fallaway double-teams over iggy/lebron/premier wing defender X all the time. spot up (relatively) wide open? i'm willing to be he'll still be among the finest in the league

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neonreaper
07/06/12 6:06:00 AM
#86:


I see a headline about the Rockets giving 4 years/$28M for Lin. what the hell.

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neonreaper
07/06/12 6:11:00 AM
#87:


Menji76 posted...
LAKERS

you scared now


Kobe has a history of supporting teammates, especially when it is clear how important they are to the team, and no doubt when a superior backcourt player shows up, he will adapt his game and put away any pursuit of personal glory. Kobe's motivation to help his team has always been his biggest passion, and now he will be entrusted to perform a less primary role in order to help win a championship for not only himself and his team, but also a man he must undoubtedly respect.

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_Carlemagne_
07/06/12 8:08:00 AM
#88:


Now that the Lakers have Nash, and the Knicks just got Kidd. The Knicks are probably going to match the offer to keep Lin. Which sucks for the Knicks, but is good for Lin. One of the reasons Kidd even came over was probably because of Lin in the first place.

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TimJab
07/06/12 9:29:00 AM
#89:


From: KokoroAkechi | #083
Reports that Lin is set to sign with the Rockets


**** jeremy lin

hope he's back to sleeping on a couch in 5 years

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WarThaNemesis2
07/06/12 9:40:00 AM
#90:


TimJab posted...
From: KokoroAkechi | #083
Reports that Lin is set to sign with the Rockets


**** jeremy lin

hope he's back to sleeping on a couch in 5 years


If the Knicks want Lin they can keep him by matching any offer from another team he accepts, so blame the Knicks if he leaves.

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TimJab
07/06/12 9:42:00 AM
#91:


yes but i've heard the rockets are backloading the contract or some **** to make it impossible for the knicks to match

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KokoroAkechi
07/06/12 3:05:00 PM
#92:


The state of the NBA

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KCF0107
07/06/12 3:07:00 PM
#93:


It makes me sad to see how things have unfolded

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Menji76
07/06/12 4:12:00 PM
#94:


Hopefully this means Jared Cunningham can break out on the Mavs. After seeing him live these past three years, he can be amazing if he adds a few pounds.

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TheConductorSix
07/06/12 6:10:00 PM
#95:


Dear people who don't watch Lakers games and are talking out of their asses,


Kobe brings the ball up court because he HAS to. He's been the best ball handler on the team for a decade, the best shot creator and playmaker for the same amount of time.

The reason Lakers fans are excited is the same reason we were excited to get Ron Artest: One Less Thing that Kobe has to do.


Signed,

Lakers fans.

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transience
07/06/12 6:14:00 PM
#96:


nah, I think there's a good point there. Kobe thrives creating off the dribble, which is what Nash needs to be doing.

and though I don't really need to go there, Nash is a better clutch shooter than Kobe. guy just hits big shots. people probably have forgotten this since he's been on a crappy team for the last couple years.

Nash will make this work, but he would have been a lot better on a team without a great guard. he also is best running pick and roll, which I'm not sure will work since Kobe won't be very involved with those. he should play well with Gasol though. I'd trade Bynum for a good SF and build the team around Kobe, Nash, Gasol and shooters.

*shrug*

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_Regaro_
07/06/12 6:23:00 PM
#97:


I haven't said it in here yet so I'll just say it

I am sad to see the mavs lose two of my three favorite players and fail to sign the third (Nash)

I mean Mavs signing Nash wasn't particularly likely for as much as I want him to come back but did you have to lose both Terry AND Kidd argh

Like voltch told me it frees up a lot of money to make more moves but :(

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Dr_Football
07/06/12 6:33:00 PM
#98:


Yea because when your big move is getting Elton Brand everything has gone to plan

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_Regaro_
07/06/12 6:34:00 PM
#99:


oh god why

why would anybody sign Elton Brand in this day and age

cuban what the **** are you doing

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TheConductorSix
07/06/12 6:54:00 PM
#100:


The Suns didn't work because they never had someone who could protect Nash's awful defense. That's why we're working to hard to get Howard for Bynum and picks or cap or whatever. But Bynum can't be traded for anyone else. We'd be the Suns all over again.

As for Kobe needing the ball, Joe Johnson worked perfectly well with Nash.

This actually works even BETTER for Kobe. The problem with the lakers last year was that every team just crowded the paint against Bynum and Kobe and we had no shooters to make them pay.

Now...Nash has never gotten so many wide open shots in his life.

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