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CherryCokes
07/06/12 7:00:00 PM
#101:


Ray Allen has informed the Celtics that he intends to sign with the Heat

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_Regaro_
07/06/12 7:00:00 PM
#102:


one more reason not to root for miami

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TheRock1525
07/06/12 7:02:00 PM
#103:


Joe Johnson's usage rate was much, much, much lower in Phoenix (19.0%) than even his lowest year in Atlanta (24.6%).

Phoenix Johnson was much different than Atlanta Johnson. Phoenix JJ never averaged more than 14 shots per 36 minutes, whereas Atlanta JJ never averaged less that 15 shots per 36 (including 5 seasons of at least 16 shots per 36).

If their plan is to make Nash another spot-up shooter to Kobe's ball domination, it's not going to work. Plain and simple, Kobe is going to have to defer more and have his usage rate go down. If he doesn't, if he still needs to dominate the ball like crazy then Lakers are another 2nd round exit.

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TheConductorSix
07/06/12 8:18:00 PM
#104:


You guys are insisting that Kobe is going to continue this ball domination. As if Kobe friggin Bryant is some rookie or shooter in a contract year.

Kobe Jellybean Bryant is a smart man; he didn't call Nash and beg him to come to L.A without realizing that it would hinder his shots and stats. He knows firsthand how Nash works.

Kobe wants ring #6 more than deaf people want ears. He's obsessed with it. Ring #6 means he's equal to Jordan in his mind. He would kill every Lakers fan at Staples Center for that ring. That's how I know this is going to work. This isn't 2004 Kobe who NEEDED the shine and needed to win a title while also being the best player(funny enough, he might the greatest Western Conference Finals player ever. Go look at his stats from those Shaq Years. That dude carried the Lakers for big stretches.)


The biggest question here is whether Mike Brown can make it work. His scheme is based around long, drawn out isolation possessions and wing screens to limit opposing team's possessions and improve defense. NONE OF THAT works with Steve Nash.

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transience
07/06/12 8:23:00 PM
#105:


I'm not saying it's a ball sharing issue. I'm saying the skills don't compliment. obviously they're better with Nash than without him. but they're kind of going to plug square pegs into round holes. you're talking about Nash getting open shots as if he's a stand still shooter, or about Kobe's willingness to share the ball. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about their strengths playing together.

they'll be good, but I wish I could see Nash in a system that benefits his skills. we'll see.

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SpikeDragon
07/06/12 8:32:00 PM
#106:


CherryCokes posted...
Ray Allen has informed the Celtics that he intends to sign with the Heat


The only good thing that's coming out of this is the fact that we can now include Rondo in Boston's "Big Three"

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CherryCokes
07/06/12 8:34:00 PM
#107:


http://whatdoumeme.com/meme/dtz465

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SpikeDragon
07/06/12 8:48:00 PM
#108:


That meme explains it pretty well haha. Can't say my brother will be too happy; Ray Allen is his favorite player, and the Celtics are his favorite team. The two not being together is gonna mess with his head.

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voltch
07/07/12 1:11:00 AM
#109:


Heat fans are convinced Ray Allen is going to be missing wide open 3s all year now.

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Mershaaay
07/07/12 9:35:00 AM
#110:


KokoroAkechi posted...
The state of the NBA

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Kloe way too not-fat

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KommunistKoala
07/07/12 9:36:00 AM
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Ray Allen sent on a mission to sabotage the Heat confirmed

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neonreap
07/07/12 9:41:00 AM
#112:


From: TheConductorSix | #104
You guys are insisting that Kobe is going to continue this ball domination. As if Kobe friggin Bryant is some rookie or shooter in a contract year.

Kobe Jellybean Bryant is a smart man; he didn't call Nash and beg him to come to L.A without realizing that it would hinder his shots and stats. He knows firsthand how Nash works.

Kobe wants ring #6 more than deaf people want ears. He's obsessed with it. Ring #6 means he's equal to Jordan in his mind. He would kill every Lakers fan at Staples Center for that ring. That's how I know this is going to work. This isn't 2004 Kobe who NEEDED the shine and needed to win a title while also being the best player(funny enough, he might the greatest Western Conference Finals player ever. Go look at his stats from those Shaq Years. That dude carried the Lakers for big stretches.)


The biggest question here is whether Mike Brown can make it work. His scheme is based around long, drawn out isolation possessions and wing screens to limit opposing team's possessions and improve defense. NONE OF THAT works with Steve Nash.


I'm sure it will work out

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Procrastinater
07/07/12 9:11:00 PM
#113:


Blake Griffin, Andre Iguodala and James Harden are the last 3 added to the USA Basketball team.

Rudy Gay, Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis all cut.

Final roster:

Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Russell Westbrook
Kobe Bryant
James Harden
LeBron James
Kevin Durant
Andre Iguodala
Kevin Love
Blake Griffin
Tyson Chandler

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SirDiemsma
07/08/12 7:21:00 AM
#114:


so basically all of these games are taking place during the work day right

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Mershaaay
07/09/12 9:37:00 AM
#115:


http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8142542/sources-cleveland-cavaliers-help-brooklyn-nets-land-dwight-howard-trade

Literally the key players in Dwight Howard going to Brooklyn might be the Cavs and literal Kris Humphries

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SirDiemsma
07/09/12 5:31:00 PM
#116:


c'monnnnnn get himmmmm

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TheConductorSix
07/09/12 5:39:00 PM
#117:


I'm going to the Dominican Republic game.

HELL YEAH.

Gonna try to meet Kobe again and ask him if he remembers me even though I know he doesn't I don't care it's KOBE

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Procrastinater
07/09/12 11:00:00 PM
#118:


Totally forgot Melo in my list.

"whoops"

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Mershaaay
07/10/12 12:39:00 PM
#119:


TheConductorSix posted...
I'm going to the Dominican Republic game.

HELL YEAH.

Gonna try to meet Kobe again and ask him if he remembers me even though I know he doesn't I don't care it's KOBE


are you gonna let him put it in your butt

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Procrastinater
07/10/12 11:17:00 PM
#120:


From: Mershaaay | #119
are you gonna let him put it in your butt





if only

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TheConductorSix
07/10/12 11:23:00 PM
#121:


I would consider it an honor of the highest order

plus I'd get a sweet settlement by saying he "raped" me

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TimJab
07/10/12 11:35:00 PM
#122:


Would you let him do the trinity
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Dr_Football
07/11/12 3:44:00 PM
#123:


Mavs sign Chris Kaman, now has every German in the NBA

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SirDiemsma
07/12/12 2:39:00 AM
#124:


$130 million of eric gordon and brook lopez

combined games played in 2012: 14

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KCF0107
07/12/12 7:59:00 AM
#125:


I really like the trade for Collison. Unless someone else gets signed, I guess that means the guy from Florida State must be our backup center.

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SirDiemsma
07/13/12 1:58:00 PM
#126:


dwill and isojoe firing shots at the knicks today. claiming already to be the #1 team in NYC.

let's hope they back it up; they've already surpassed the knicks as the highest-spending!

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KCF0107
07/13/12 1:59:00 PM
#127:


Not really sure that I want them to get either Scola or Brand. I don't really know if they will continue to be a defensive oriented team like they have been under Carlise given their roster, but if so, maybe Scola, even though he would be there for 3 years. Injuries are never an issue for him and I have a feeling that the Mavs wouldn't have to post as much on the waiver wire to obtain his services

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_Regaro_
07/13/12 2:34:00 PM
#128:


The mavericks literally signed

Elton Brand

Elton ****ing Brand

can't tell if Cuban is a genius or a moron, but leaning moron

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KCF0107
07/13/12 3:50:00 PM
#129:


I wasn't thrilled at the prospect of getting him either, but they are only paying him $2.1 million. As long as he can stay healthy, he has a good chance of being worth at least that much.

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SirDiemsma
07/13/12 7:46:00 PM
#130:


2.1MM for elton brand sounds great to me!

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_Regaro_
07/13/12 7:48:00 PM
#131:


I do not like Elton though

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TheConductorSix
07/13/12 8:08:00 PM
#132:


Elton Brand is a PHENOMENAL 2.1 million.

He's got specific skills and is very good at them.

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KCF0107
07/13/12 10:24:00 PM
#133:


If they can get Brand for 2.1 mil, I wonder what it will take for Scola then, assuming that there aren't any differences if a player has one year or multiple years remaining on their contract. Regardless, I hope that they go re-sign West. He is more of a priority despite needing more frontcourt help. I just felt like he really fit in with the Mavs

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SirDiemsma
07/14/12 8:20:00 AM
#134:


yeah delonte's great and he loves the mavs and cuban too. i hope you guys get him too!

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KCF0107
07/15/12 11:05:00 AM
#135:


I'm not sure if I would match the Rockets' offer sheet for Lin if I were in charge of roster-related decisions for the Knicks

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SirDiemsma
07/15/12 11:08:00 AM
#136:


literally raymond felton

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TimJab
07/15/12 12:38:00 PM
#137:


From: TimJab | #091
yes but i've heard the rockets are backloading the contract or some **** to make it impossible for the knicks to match


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TimJab
07/15/12 12:39:00 PM
#138:


and i like felton

he was great for us

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neonreap
07/15/12 6:34:00 PM
#139:


From: SirDiemsma | #136
literally raymond felton


I think everything NY did makes sense, aside from lying about bringing Lin back. Felton can play pick n pop, and for the 30 or so games Amare will play next season, that's gonna be huge.

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KokoroAkechi
07/15/12 6:42:00 PM
#140:


I'd say bringing back Felton for 1/3 of the price of Lin is a good move.

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voltch
07/16/12 5:51:00 PM
#141:


Lakerz get another dude I see.

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KCF0107
07/16/12 8:57:00 PM
#142:


I was certainly not expecting Mayo to sign with the Mavs. I was really hoping that they would re-sign West. Though that remains a possibility, I doubt it since they are really thin on forwards. I wonder if a trade is in the works with one or some of their guards.

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vcharon
07/18/12 12:14:00 AM
#144:


KokoroAkechi posted...
I'd say bringing back Felton for 1/3 of the price of Lin is a good move.


If you want about 1/3 of the player and potential, sure. Granted Lin is technically "untested" and Felton had one good season in NY, but he was completely awful in Portland. Not to mention the fact Lin is marketable... Felton is... yeah, no. Rockets will easily make their money back, they have an Asian player to sell jerseys to Asian people who still like the Rockets because of Yao Ming.

This just seems like the typical boneheaded NY move to me, and effectively kills any desire I had watching the Knicks play (which I did enjoy while Lin was on the court, even cheering for them until Melo came back and screwed up the rhythm).

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TheConductorSix
07/18/12 12:39:00 AM
#145:


This whole "Lin will make his contract back in marketing" thing isn't true. He was a hot story. He had a phenomenal run that stole headlines.

Phenomenons die unless you're a handsome white christian kid who's super humble in a gee golly wizz I vote Republican kinda way.

Knicks made a smart basketball decision. Good for them. Rockets went from Lowry to Lin. Meh.

Lakers grabbing Antawn Jamison I love it. Mayo gonna shine in Dallas

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TimJab
07/18/12 2:28:00 AM
#146:


i only wish we could have gotten something for lin while his value was through the roof

i don't think he is really as good as he played during linsanity. he looked like a third grader against miami

i think he puts up something like 16 and 7 this season. solid numbers, but not irreplaceable. the knicks need more of a distributor who can hit open 3s at the point anyway, which is what kidd was gonna be...who knows what's up with him now

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TheConductorSix
07/18/12 2:31:00 AM
#147:


Jeremy Lin should thank the Knicks for letting him shine and making him a mega millionaire.

The Knicks should thank Lin for making them a household name again.

No hard feelings anywhere. I like the Knicks offseason alot. All they need to do now is find someway to turn Amare into Josh Smith.

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Dr_Football
07/18/12 2:40:00 AM
#148:


And they'll be right in position to get that all elusive first round exit

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_Regaro_
07/18/12 9:17:00 AM
#149:


I think I'll just start rooting for Boston now.

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KCF0107
07/18/12 12:00:00 PM
#143:


Did Lin even play under Woodson? I just remembered that his rise to fame began when D'Antoni was still the coach

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TheConductorSix
07/18/12 1:41:00 PM
#150:


If you only cheered for the Knicks because of the "story" then I don't think anybody really cares who you cheer for.


You're what sports people call "media monkeys"

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