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Started: July 6, 2005

Bumo, indeed.

Hope erryone's here tonight!

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The party faced its most important challenge yet.

After a long battle they prevailed. Their reward: 5k less xp than what it took to spook an army.

No epic tier for us. But at least the universe is safe. For the moment.

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Literally nothing we can do can top this outside of some asspull. So we're not going to become epic heroes after a fated confrontation, no, we're going to gain 5000 XP smacking around cultists.

This ruins a lot of the fun of the game for me. Not making a deal of level 21 and popping it after the biggest of big encounters is akin to turning 18 and pretending it's just like any other old birthday.

But, "Accel is always Wrong", eh?

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From: Accel_R8 | #304

Literally nothing we can do can top this outside of some asspull. So we're not going to become epic heroes after a fated confrontation, no, we're going to gain 5000 XP smacking around cultists.

This ruins a lot of the fun of the game for me. Not making a deal of level 21 and popping it after the biggest of big encounters is akin to turning 18 and pretending it's just like any other old birthday.

But, "Accel is always Wrong", eh?

Nah, we're just sticking to tradition. We're not supposed to level when it matters or we'd have gained XP more slowly in the Twilight.

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Nobody was disagreeing with you about that, Accel, don't pretend they were. People just have different opinions about what constitutes an important moment.

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From: Accel_R8 | #304

Literally nothing we can do can top this outside of some asspull. So we're not going to become epic heroes after a fated confrontation, no, we're going to gain 5000 XP smacking around cultists.

This ruins a lot of the fun of the game for me. Not making a deal of level 21 and popping it after the biggest of big encounters is akin to turning 18 and pretending it's just like any other old birthday.

But, "Accel is always Wrong", eh?

Nah, we're just sticking to tradition. We're not supposed to level when it matters or we'd have gained XP more slowly in the Twilight.

we did gain xp more slowly in the twilight. we got it by hundreds and if we did things exceptional, thousands. here we are getting it by the bucketful, the argument was that this particular thing deserved a giant bucket but we got a smaller one than the one we got when did something relatively minor on the material plane.

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These last two sessions aside, that's not true. The important thing isn't how much XP we got by the numbers, but by the percentages. And that percentage has remained pretty constant for the most part.

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I remember a time when we did something epic and ana was just like 'welp, you gain a level from this' no questions asked.

this was certainly more epic than that event.

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From: SovietOmega | #309

I remember a time when we did something epic and ana was just like 'welp, you gain a level from this' no questions asked.

this was certainly more epic than that event.

That happened all of once, and because of novelty value. This was not novel.

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Killing Edash wasn't novel, and, exactly, neither was this.

This was the end of an arc that has been building up since like what, level 14? We finally ended it, we stopped the madman that was literally destroying planes with a snap of his fingers, rescued the goddess of life, witnessed her ascension to goddess of life and magic, saved the world, ensured that nobody else had to die to the whims of a madman, and resolved one of the two major things that need to be resolved.

But 9000 XP to go lol. We're going to get it off something utterly lesser. "Keeping with tradition" is a crappy, crappy argument. We don't traditionally become epic level characters. That's never happened before. And it should be a big deal. It should come from doing something that is actually epic level.

This was. It ruins the game for me to not cross the threshold into epic off such a great moment. We won. We finally won. It was costly, but we won. Never win, so when we finally do straight up win, we apparently get nothing for it.

And yeah, like Omega said, we got a huge sum of XP for the dumb session before this one, where we did considerably less. Wat?

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keeping with tradition and arguing that we can not do this because it would not be novel sorta contradict each other.

that said, most of my complaint stems from the xp discrepancy between our actions yielding 15k and 10k. were they switched, i would not mind so much.

but just saying 'ok, the xp was switched' would still be silly and empty. the semigod slaying should yield more than the army and pirate. it should take us close to epic.

i say close because i am kinda starting to agree that a character driven transition to epic via roleplay might be worth looking into. even in a story there is almost always some resolution before the end. we are thrashed a bit after beating the guy, we are not goku who tends to get stronger the longer the fight goes out. only after recovery would we be stronger, and during that time we can find something charactercentric that boosts us over the threshold.

consider our connections. val has crisis band, kirie and vance have wrestling initiates and catgirls, xeno has the other team he is a part of, quentyn has his harem, and brona has...ties to the undead mebbe?

point is, with the end of season analogy i drew, we still technically have that sliver to go until the arc is truly finished and a new chapter can begin.

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Thinking more about it I guess I'm okay with the idea of a session or two of dealing with the fallout of what happened with Ondal, but I will really feel like this has all been cheapened immensely if we go off and fight something stupid and hit epic because of it. Like what I think we really need is a purely RP session or two.

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From: Accel_R8 | #311

Killing Edash wasn't novel, and, exactly, neither was this.

This was the end of an arc that has been building up since like what, level 14? We finally ended it, we stopped the madman that was literally destroying planes with a snap of his fingers, rescued the goddess of life, witnessed her ascension to goddess of life and magic, saved the world, ensured that nobody else had to die to the whims of a madman, and resolved one of the two major things that need to be resolved.

But 9000 XP to go lol. We're going to get it off something utterly lesser. "Keeping with tradition" is a crappy, crappy argument. We don't traditionally become epic level characters. That's never happened before. And it should be a big deal. It should come from doing something that is actually epic level.

This was. It ruins the game for me to not cross the threshold into epic off such a great moment. We won. We finally won. It was costly, but we won. Never win, so when we finally do straight up win, we apparently get nothing for it.

And yeah, like Omega said, we got a huge sum of XP for the dumb session before this one, where we did considerably less. Wat?

Really, the only argument I can support is that the XP distribution was weird. I honestly don't give a single **** about beating Ondal when there was such massive material and spiritual fallout. Like I said, this victory was Phyrric. One more like this one, and everything's undone. That's not what I'd reward with an ascent to Epic...particularly because it's nonsense when coupled with our ED flavors. Whatever yours might be Accel, it doesn't fit Kirie, nor Brona, nor Quentyn (Quentyn's own ED pick got nixed by these events, in fact!). So I don't much care for just pushing a level-up on them.

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Well y'know, whatever. You can continue to never enjoy anything ever. We finally beat the guy. That is the important part.

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I like that the answer to 'this isn't the time for leveling up, one of the character's ED choices got obliterated out of existence' is 'yeah whatever you be grumpy, we won and THAT IS WHAT MATTERS'. Smooth comeback there.

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It's not a comeback, and it's not being grumpy. You have a history of never being satisfied with everything that happens in this game. You went so far as to bug me about it outside of the game. You went so far as to basically tell me "Unless Ana changes things I don't wanna play anymore".

So, like, yeah.

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To be fair, this IS still a victory. It is like a raging river that destroyed some villages, but was finally dammed. Sure, there was loss, but there is no more destruction by the river.

As for ED choices, didn't you yourself say that the fluff involving them might as well be ignored?

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That's something I was wondering too. You already completely disregard the fluff of being a warden, or previously an avenger. Or currently, the fluff of being a werewolf. Why is it a problem now?

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From: SovietOmega | #319

To be fair, this IS still a victory. It is like a raging river that destroyed some villages, but was finally dammed. Sure, there was loss, but there is no more destruction by the river.

As for ED choices, didn't you yourself say that the fluff involving them might as well be ignored?

You don't get it scep. Tiro's plan was to make Quentyn a Chosen of Borden with a special, appropriate U26 to fit. Now he can't. Literally, straight up can't. Borden doesn't exist anymore. This isn't 'ignore the normal fluff' which I'm huge on. This is the fact that what he wanted to do cannot be done anymore.

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Quentyn already was a Chosen of Borden and I am pretty sure they like, shook hands or something, a piece of Borden could lie dormant in him.

Besides, if we really want the gods back we just have to convince Oa to allow time travel to woooosh them to the future to what would be our present. The effect would be the same and Ondal could still think he blow'd up the gods.

Nothing is impossible.

(also I am not scep >_>;;)

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Seriously. There is a lot of jumping to conclusions going on here. If Ana agreed to give Quentyn something and then went ahead and did his "kill the Gods offscreen" plan, that he PROBABLY had in mind prior to agreeing to give something to someone, then he PROBABLY intends to give that to that person anyway.

You're literally assuming the absolute worst. And this leads me back to believing you just CANNOT be happy with anything.

Edit: also that's omega not scep bro


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From: SovietOmega | #322

Quentyn already was a Chosen of Borden and I am pretty sure they like, shook hands or something, a piece of Borden could lie dormant in him.

Besides, if we really want the gods back we just have to convince Oa to allow time travel to woooosh them to the future to what would be our present. The effect would be the same and Ondal could still think he blow'd up the gods.

Nothing is impossible.

(also I am not scep >_>;;)

I don't think it works that way...especially when dealing with gods. Remember, when a god is gone, he's gone. As if he had never existed. Ignoring the issues of time travel, that complicates matters.

It also ties into why this makes things hard for Tiro in particular. We went through this before - I tried to absorb a piece of Edash's soul to resuscitate him. Not only did it not work, but I was told in no uncertain terms that he was gone. And certainly, no power was gained. So the precedent says that Borden is just not there anymore. Chosen isn't an option anymore - what comes closer is Dead God Avatar, though I'm not sure that even fits here because it presumes gods leave something behind.

(Also, sorry for confusing you with Scep - your argument was kinda phrased like I'd expect him to put things. Sorry! :x)

From: Accel_R8 | #323

Seriously. There is a lot of jumping to conclusions going on here. If Ana agreed to give Quentyn something and then went ahead and did his "kill the Gods offscreen" plan, that he PROBABLY had in mind prior to agreeing to give something to someone, then he PROBABLY intends to give that to that person anyway.

You're literally assuming the absolute worst. And this leads me back to believing you just CANNOT be happy with anything.

Edit: also that's omega not scep bro

No, not really. You DO realize that the flash teleportation ban didn't affect us until I pointed out that it did, yes? Similarly, it didn't affect Eladrin and Shadar-Kai until I noted that they could teleport as a racial ability. I have learned not to assume anything positive, because things always err toward the side of becoming worse, not better. I'd keep that in mind if I were you.

And in response to your latter point, no, I generally cannot be happy until I am positive the world will not go to hell when I stop looking at it. Considering every time I haven't taken matters in my own hands, this has happened (look no further than the pointless deaths at the fortress because I compromised), this leaves me unable to enjoy things until I am certain that I will achieve total, eternal victory. Because nothing else will suffice to stop this goddamn ****heap of a world from dropping a bad ending on us down the line otherwise.

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Kanz, sometimes I wonder if you even realize there are other people at the table and that you can not and should not take matters into your own hands all the time. Like seriously. You come across as pompous and arrogant both in and out of character, and frankly you're just NOT fun to play with anymore. I'm not even the only person that thinks this either, though I'm not going to name names.

I think you need a break from this, you are just TOO serious into this.

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Sure, just ignore a potential solution >_>;;

Still, my point was that it is not hard to think of potential ways things could still be permissible. All it would take to cement something as a thing would be to run it by the DM and get his approval. Sure, we would like it to make sense in the story, and it would be ana's task to make it able to happen. If there is a goal, there will be a path to that goal. Being overly negative about it does not further that.

It could even be that Quentyn will be chosen by Oa to become the new god of brothels in the future, but needs to have this demigod transitory period or something to prove his worth etc and could thus gain that ED and all it would entail.

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Or you could just say that since Quentyn was already like a prophet for Borden, that's kind of different from your 'I just met Edash this instant and am trying to save him'. The circumstances are more in favor for a lenient interpretation.

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From: Accel_R8 | #325

Kanz, sometimes I wonder if you even realize there are other people at the table and that you can not and should not take matters into your own hands all the time. Like seriously. You come across as pompous and arrogant both in and out of character, and frankly you're just NOT fun to play with anymore. I'm not even the only person that thinks this either, though I'm not going to name names.

I think you need a break from this, you are just TOO serious into this.

Considering if I don't, the plot doesn't move forward except through Deus Ex Machinas...I mean, seriously, who sets up all the plans? You don't, that's for sure. Really, the thing is, you and I aren't playing the same game. Your character is in it for the ride. He doesn't have any goals beyond stopping Rael, which is pure self-preservation. Mine wants to leave a lasting impact on the world. This necessitates that I think much, much more long-term and more broadly than you do, which is why I'm so unhappy - you pretty much think 'what would my character want to do' and then do it. I do the same thing, then I have to think 'and what would he do because he must do it? And then how do I make things work from there?'. Your character is basically you. My character is rather dissociated from me, which causes me to be far more detached and critical of things, thanks to the distance. It also leaves me less happy, because I don't get to make things go the way I want them to even when I'm winning...which isn't often, anyway. Your character already accomplished his life goals. Mine has been forced to sell them out for everybody else's sake. It's doubtful if he'll succeed at achieving even a single one of them. Your game is not my game, and your satisfaction is not mine. And unlike me, you don't seem to get it, because your responses often tend to be '**** you, got mine' (and this is very obviously reflected in how your character always wants to leave what doesn't directly concern him alone - even when others would suffer. Need I point you toward how you wanted Sharon spared just because she was not an immediate threat anymore?). Which is pretty damn annoying to deal with, tbh.

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From: SovietOmega | #326

Sure, just ignore a potential solution >_>;;

Still, my point was that it is not hard to think of potential ways things could still be permissible. All it would take to cement something as a thing would be to run it by the DM and get his approval. Sure, we would like it to make sense in the story, and it would be ana's task to make it able to happen. If there is a goal, there will be a path to that goal. Being overly negative about it does not further that.

It could even be that Quentyn will be chosen by Oa to become the new god of brothels in the future, but needs to have this demigod transitory period or something to prove his worth etc and could thus gain that ED and all it would entail.

No, it's our task. Because last time we left things up to Ana, we got the flash teleport mess. This isn't a knock against him, but rather that it's unfair to ask one person to think about how an entire world works. The responsibility should be shared. So yeah, expect me to be critical if something doesn't work. It's my job to make sure it all runs smoothly, just as much the DM's, and yours.

From: Sceptilesolar | #327

Or you could just say that since Quentyn was already like a prophet for Borden, that's kind of different from your 'I just met Edash this instant and am trying to save him'. The circumstances are more in favor for a lenient interpretation.

Alright, so explain to me how it works then. I'm curious.

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No, it's our task. Because last time we left things up to Ana, we got the flash teleport mess. This isn't a knock against him, but rather that it's unfair to ask one person to think about how an entire world works. The responsibility should be shared. So yeah, expect me to be critical if something doesn't work. It's my job to make sure it all runs smoothly, just as much the DM's, and yours.

I meant that ana, being the DM, is kinda de facto the person who describes the events and controls the npc's to make events happen for us. I did not mean to suggest 'let's just have ana choose how he wants to resolve the ED thing' but rather an opportunity for tiro to get in contact with ana and go 'hey, i want this to be a thing for my character, i think this might work out if yadda yadda yadda happens, can you make it work?' and if the DM says he can, i will make its way to the story.

I was not depriving player input, rather I was supporting it.

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From: SovietOmega | #330

No, it's our task. Because last time we left things up to Ana, we got the flash teleport mess. This isn't a knock against him, but rather that it's unfair to ask one person to think about how an entire world works. The responsibility should be shared. So yeah, expect me to be critical if something doesn't work. It's my job to make sure it all runs smoothly, just as much the DM's, and yours.

I meant that ana, being the DM, is kinda de facto the person who describes the events and controls the npc's to make events happen for us. I did not mean to suggest 'let's just have ana choose how he wants to resolve the ED thing' but rather an opportunity for tiro to get in contact with ana and go 'hey, i want this to be a thing for my character, i think this might work out if yadda yadda yadda happens, can you make it work?' and if the DM says he can, i will make its way to the story.

I was not depriving player input, rather I was supporting it.

Right. That seems fine. My question, then, is 'and will that happen'? I'm not sure how many times everybody else has spoken to Ana about mechanical stuff. My impression is that it hasn't happened often, so I'm operating under that for now, since apparently all the communication took place in the chatroom. If Tiro wants to work things out with Ana, that seems like a pretty good idea - I'm just not sure it's happening.

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Okay, I just read your guys' argument really fast.


Suffice it to say that while I do understand a lot of Kan's problems, regarding Quentyn wanting a Chosen of Borden ED, that problem specifically I actually already have a way to make work sans Borden, but I don't want to spoil it until it comes up in-game, but I'm sure it'll work for everyone in terms of making sense and stuff.

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Oh, I have no idea if tiro will do that or not, I'm just saying that as it is his character, he should have the most sway in where he wants the character to go. I have had some pretty clear (and not so clear) ideas of where I wanted Amy and Lloyd and now Xeno to go, and if I have needed DM approval over something, I have made sure to chat him up. Sometimes he thinks an idea I have won't work out, others he likes.

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From: Anagram | #332

Okay, I just read your guys' argument really fast.


Suffice it to say that while I do understand a lot of Kan's problems, regarding Quentyn wanting a Chosen of Borden ED, that problem specifically I actually already have a way to make work sans Borden, but I don't want to spoil it until it comes up in-game, but I'm sure it'll work for everyone in terms of making sense and stuff.

Sweet, in that case that takes care of things at least partially.

From: SovietOmega | #333

Oh, I have no idea if tiro will do that or not, I'm just saying that as it is his character, he should have the most sway in where he wants the character to go. I have had some pretty clear (and not so clear) ideas of where I wanted Amy and Lloyd and now Xeno to go, and if I have needed DM approval over something, I have made sure to chat him up. Sometimes he thinks an idea I have won't work out, others he likes.

Definitely. I actually am hoping everybody talks things out as much as you do. I'm positive it'd make things much smoother.

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I stopped reading that garbage at "your character is basically you".

No.

That's all I have to say about that. We're simply never going to agree. Whatever. I'm done with you.

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From: Accel_R8 | #335

I stopped reading that garbage at "your character is basically you".

No.

That's all I have to say about that. We're simply never going to agree. Whatever. I'm done with you.

/Shrug

That's your loss. You can't understand people if you cut off communications. This is exactly why I say you're like your character, since when someone gets pushy, you try to get away from the situation. If you want to prove me wrong, the right thing to do is to actually talk this out, like adults, not take your ball and go home.

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I don't really have a lot to say to you. You've proven time and again no matter what anybody else thinks, you are infallible. You've proven that if anybody ever wants to think independently from you, they're wrong. You've proven that if someone else comes up with a plan, it's "stupid".

I don't want to deal with you, because I know people like you, and when someone truly decides to stand up and speak against your nonsense, you will kick and scream and aggravate the situation.

And here's the thing. I really, REALLY like all of the other players in this game. I really like Ana too. I want everyone to have fun, and I don't want to start an incident that would compromise everyone else's fun.

Because I am, in fact, an adult.

So, if you want to ride your high horse and believe that you're right and everyone else is wrong, then fine. Whatever floats your boat. I'm not going to argue with you and cause a big mess that bothers CPU, Omega, Scep, Tiro, or Ana. Because those people haven't managed to completely alienate me by being an arrogant ass.

That's the last I'm saying of this. Feel free to take the last word as you so love to do.

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People aren't wrong for thinking different from me. They're wrong for not thinking about things as many steps forward as I do. When people have come up with clever ideas, I've gone through with them. For instance, it was Scep's idea to obtain the Shadow Walk ritual that allowed us to catch the World Eater and save the day with minimal casualties. The difference, Accel, is that you don't tend to think things through. You never come up with answers to points raised against your plans. You never have an answer ready when somebody asks 'and what happens afterward'? If you took five minutes to think about it, I wouldn't be as critical of you as I am. You've got the brains for it. All I ask is that you use them.

EDIT: And to provide a different example, since I know I use that one a lot: when Omega had Xenophanes move to block Ondal from the light beam, I didn't rag on him in spite of him taking lots of damage unnecessarily, because it was actually a good idea. Moving to block the druid's connection to the font of divine power was wise, as if it had worked that'd have been the end of things. My issue isn't with other people having ideas, it's with other people having ideas, having the holes in those ideas pointed out to them, and then insisting they're good anyways.

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this sure is getting passive aggressive in here

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From: Sceptilesolar | #339

this sure is getting passive aggressive in here

In my defence, I'd say I am being open about my grievances. If I'm also being mean, fine, that might be the case, but I DO want to talk these things out. The whole 'taking the high ground' spiel is sickening, honestly.

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And with regard to that plan, I pretty much knew from a player perspective that Xeno would take damage, but that there could have been some small % of something nice, it was in character, and I know that unless it was 300+ damage that Xeno would be fine.

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From: SovietOmega | #341

And with regard to that plan, I pretty much knew from a player perspective that Xeno would take damage, but that there could have been some small % of something nice, it was in character, and I know that unless it was 300+ damage that Xeno would be fine.

I actually wouldn't have bet on that so much. I briefly thought about entering the pillar fully to disrupt it myself, but decided against it because it would have been incredibly dickish to NOT put in my damage when the group needed me to do so. But honestly, it was a good plan. It's just a pity it didn't pan out, but what can you do. :-/

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Hey guys. Come late August, I am beginning another semester of school, and I've got a class on Thursday nights, which means I'll have cancel the Thursday game when the time comes. I'm sorry, but there's no way around it.

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I am sure the campaign can survive 16 hours a week rather than the usual 24.

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That's to be expected; three times a week was never gonna be sustainable indefinitely.

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So I wanna apologize for all the drama I caused. Though I meant everything I said, I probably could have said them nicer. It's been a trying few months for me with my family in the hospital and it's only gotten worse lately. I shouldn't snap at people even if I do have issues with them.

I'm not taking BACK anything that was said, but I am apologizing for the manner in which they were said. If that makes sense.

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Why would you apologize if you don't regret anything? If you meant it, you meant it. I don't care about something like that. What I want is to reach a mutual understanding. Everything else isn't relevant to me. If we can't have that, all I ask is that we set things aside when we play - which I trust is something we can do.

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Going to go ahead and stay out of this whole situation except to say that I would still be interested in some type of Borden ED if it's possible, since I still have no idea what ED I want to pick anyway.

Also, I'm going on vacation with my family, so I won't be here for any of the sessions this week except maaaybe to check in sometime during the week. Sorry for the somewhat brief notice, but I wasn't entirely sure I was going until a few days ago. Someone please keep logs for me!

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I TOLD YOU MAN
I TOLD YOU ABOUT STAIRS

Ugh. Let me rephrase my apology then.

I'm sorry I came across as a jackass. It's that simple. I still have issues but they're my own. I don't want to be a jerk to people in this group, even if I do have an issue with them. That's all.

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Accel R8
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From: Accel_R8 | #349

Ugh. Let me rephrase my apology then.

I'm sorry I came across as a jackass. It's that simple. I still have issues but they're my own. I don't want to be a jerk to people in this group, even if I do have an issue with them. That's all.

OK, yeah, that's cool. Apology accepted, and allow me to reply in kind. I still think we need to talk things out for real sometime, but there's no reason to yell at each other in the process.

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Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/63360266