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masterplum 01/15/12 9:09:00 PM #1: |
So I personally don't understand how people don't believe in something. I can completely understand agnosticism but a belief in nothing at all confuses me. I don't understand why you would even bother doing anything productive or moral at all.
So I'm curious, what is your purpose for living? Does the concept of death bother you? -- yE frE me Kweku Ananse Papa me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 01/15/12 9:10:00 PM #2: |
I live for enjoyment
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DigitalIncision 01/15/12 9:11:00 PM #3: |
I don't need the promise of some after-death reward to know I want to be a good person and do something I love for a living. My purpose for living is to be happy and make the woman I love happy. The concept of death bothers me now, but I know someday I'll be ready.
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GwynethPaltrow 01/15/12 9:11:00 PM #4: |
From: masterplum | #001 Topics like these. -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5618/gwynethpaltrow.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GwynethPaltrow 01/15/12 9:11:00 PM #5: |
Digi, did you have sex with Vernon Davis yet?
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Liquid Wind 01/15/12 9:12:00 PM #7: |
people that do believe in god aren't particularly moral. when you really look at it christianity and islam both built their empires on murder and intimidation.
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foolm0ron 01/15/12 9:12:00 PM #8: |
Depends what you mean by "believe"
Do I need to believe in some sort of God? Some sort of afterlife? I come up with my own morals and my own goals in life, so I have found that I don't need a structured religion to do so for me. I think the best way for you to get an answer is to ask yourself why YOU believe in God. Why do you follow this religion? Now imagine if you didn't need a religion to get to that same goal. Doesn't seem so crazy, right? -- _foolmo_ 'I love you so much' - SineNomine ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Whiskey_Nick 01/15/12 9:12:00 PM #9: |
Hello Plum, I feel like if I give you my honest answer you will stop being my friend and forsake your beliefs so I will not share my honest answer and instead say this.
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DigitalIncision 01/15/12 9:13:00 PM #10: |
From: GwynethPaltrow | #005 I tried to, but he was still crying. It was too much like when I lost my virginity and I got nervous. -- Digi Sometimes, life throws you a curve ball and you just don't know enough about baseball to finish the metaphor... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 01/15/12 9:14:00 PM #11: |
Also death doesn't bother me, because every second spent worrying about something inevitable that I can't control (like death) is a second I am not spending enjoying life. If I'm trying to maximize the amount of happiness I can get out of my life, then it's illogical to worry about death.
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_Zea_ 01/15/12 9:15:00 PM #13: |
I kind of wish I could believe in heaven or some kind of happy afterlife to look forward to since the thought of death sucks. I used to get depressed over it occasionally but I've accepted it. At least, accepted as much as I can at this point in my life. Religious beliefs just aren't really something that's compatible with my personality. As for purpose of living, I dunno. For the most part, I enjoy life and that's all that really matters to me.
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GwynethPaltrow 01/15/12 9:16:00 PM #14: |
What are you going to do when he cries not-so-manly tears after the Giants GODSTOMP them.?
I'm just kidding, I hope they win the Super Bowl for you. Especially since Verdasco is in trouble against Tomic. -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5618/gwynethpaltrow.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 01/15/12 9:17:00 PM #15: |
From: masterplum | #001 The idea that people need the threat of some deity looming over them and judging them in order to be good people/want to better themselves has always been highly disturbing to me. A real man builds his own life and his own moral code. As for the concept of death, I can't say it bothers me at all. We all didn't exist at some point, so it's not like returning to that oblivion when the time comes will be anything new, ya know? -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 01/15/12 9:17:00 PM #16: |
Ed Bellis posted...
You do not need religion to have ethics. I am aware of this, but the reasoning of why this is the case still puzzles me. -- yE frE me Kweku Ananse Papa me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JeffreyRaze 01/15/12 9:18:00 PM #17: |
Death doesn't really bother me, though it's definitely something I'd rather put off for a long time.
But really, meaning doesn't have to be imposed on me by some outside force. Meaning comes from within, and personally I want to learn as much as I can, create what I can, and experience what I can. The fact that my life is cosmically insignificant doesn't bother me, and why should it? Whether or not I'm important to the universe doesn't change how I act, or what I do. -- MMBN style fighting game made by me in the link below! http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/184947-b8bn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biolizard28 01/15/12 9:18:00 PM #18: |
I don't consider myself a follower of any religion, but I have not abandoned the idea of the existence of an omnipotent force. But I also believe that force is not attentive to the wants, needs, and praises of every individual organism in the universe.
So where does that leave me? -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DigitalIncision 01/15/12 9:18:00 PM #19: |
From: GwynethPaltrow | #014 49ers already beat the Giants once, they're Super Bowl bound, baby. I hope they win too. Is he really in trouble against Tomic? Last I checked, he was up two sets and holding serve just fine in the third. What in the hell happened? -- Digi I've grown to hate low ceilings. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Zea_ 01/15/12 9:19:00 PM #20: |
From: masterplum | #016 Usually, doing good things makes people feel good. People like feeling good. -- (1)Jesus Christ (Bible) - 14 (16)GANON1025 (Board 8-) - 10 Never forget. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40598649/Funkasaurus.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kenri 01/15/12 9:20:00 PM #21: |
*takes topic seriously*
*perhaps way too seriously* I don't understand why you would even bother doing anything productive or moral at all. Being productive helps my life, the only life (I believe) I'll ever have. Being moral helps other people's lives, the only lives (I believe) they'll ever have. Why wouldn't I do this? So I'm curious, what is your purpose for living? I don't really think there is one. There are things I want to do before I die, because I won't get another chance to do them. But calling it a "purpose" seems melodramatic, if you get my drift. Does the concept of death bother you? Death doesn't bother me. It's dying that's scary. But I think that if I can go peacefully after a long life then I'd be okay with that too. it's being attacked by a shark or something that's scary but that isn't the same as death unless it happens and then you die from it -- "The courtroom is the garden of holy judgment. Those with lechery in their hearts should leave this sanctuary at once!" ~Franziska von Karma ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 01/15/12 9:21:00 PM #22: |
From: Kenri | #021 Oh yeah this Sometimes I imagine different ways to die and try to imagine the pain... like if you're stuck under a truck and your face is like scraping off on the asphalt until you die That's scary -- _foolmo_ 'You are obviously intelligent and insightful' - Sir Chris about me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ayuyu 01/15/12 9:21:00 PM #23: |
I don't really like the concept of a death with no afterlife.
I mean what the hell is the point of learning things, building a better world if you'll just end up dying and forgetting everything that you learned during your life and everything you've lived for. -- http://i40.tinypic.com/mc3igi.gif (Never gonna post the rest) http://img.imgcake.com/happybouncytimegifej.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 01/15/12 9:22:00 PM #24: |
From: masterplum | Posted: 1/16/2012 12:17:39 AM | #016 Are you seriously only good because you think you get a reward for being that way? -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/tumblrlrm6ckXo351qd30ipo2500gifta.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GwynethPaltrow 01/15/12 9:22:00 PM #25: |
From: DigitalIncision | #019 I honestly can't tell you and I've watched the whole thing. They're on serve at 2-3 in the fifth and Tomic is about to serve. Tomic looked dead at the end of the second but he just started going for it and Verdasco got tight. -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5618/gwynethpaltrow.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DigitalIncision 01/15/12 9:23:00 PM #26: |
From: GwynethPaltrow | #025 I'm used to the disappointment. A lot of squandered talent with him. -- Digi I often wonder if the first person who ever got hiccups thought he was marked for death. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wind 01/15/12 9:23:00 PM #27: |
Liquid Wind posted...
people that do believe in god aren't particularly moral. when you really look at it christianity and islam both built their empires on murder and intimidation. reposting because I seriously want to know how religious people get off acting as a moral authority with all of the atrocities they are responsible for. how do you force people into your faith by killing anyone caught worshiping their old gods and then try to act like you're an institution of peace? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biolizard28 01/15/12 9:23:00 PM #28: |
I have my own theories about life after death, but they're mostly scientific in nature.
For the record, I don't believe that life stops after death, but explaining my stance is more complicated than that, so let's not. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JeffreyRaze 01/15/12 9:23:00 PM #29: |
I imagine death is the same as the time before I was born. I'm certainly not going to care about it while I'm dead.
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GwynethPaltrow 01/15/12 9:23:00 PM #30: |
From: GuessMyUserName | #024 Every time I am about to rape someone, I think about how my afterlife reward might be better than raping someone so I don't do it. But ooooh man if my reward isn't worth it, someone's getting raped. -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5618/gwynethpaltrow.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ayuyu 01/15/12 9:24:00 PM #31: |
From: Biolizard28 | #028 Actually my own faith in an afterlife comes from science too. -- http://i40.tinypic.com/mc3igi.gif (Never gonna post the rest) http://img.imgcake.com/happybouncytimegifej.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GwynethPaltrow 01/15/12 9:24:00 PM #32: |
From: JeffreyRaze | #029 This is the only conclusion I can ever come to when I actually think about it. -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5618/gwynethpaltrow.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biolizard28 01/15/12 9:25:00 PM #33: |
I wouldn't call it afterlife.
I think the most concise term for my stance is genetic reincarnation. Also, I believe in a time cycle, but that's a story for another day. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 01/15/12 9:26:00 PM #34: |
I don't understand why you would even bother doing anything productive or moral at all.
because people feel like it on the merits of being a productive or moral person. it's not a means to an end, that's the actual end. you don't need a boogeyman to scare most people - most people are inherently good. the bad ones won't be scared off anyway. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ayuyu 01/15/12 9:26:00 PM #35: |
From: JeffreyRaze | #029 Have you ever tried really hard imagining how it was before you were born? It's scary as **** trying to imagine pure nothingness. -- http://i40.tinypic.com/mc3igi.gif (Never gonna post the rest) http://img.imgcake.com/happybouncytimegifej.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 01/15/12 9:26:00 PM #36: |
GuessMyUserName posted...
From: masterplum | Posted: 1/16/2012 12:17:39 AM | #016 I am aware of this, but the reasoning of why this is the case still puzzles me. Are you seriously only good because you think you get a reward for being that way? It's not the reward, it's the purpose. Like if everyone ended up the same no matter what then there is no harm from harming someone else. Murdering people would get people to the exact same state except faster for instance. Why resist theft if in a hundred years it means nothing? I've never bothered working toward a reward or anything like that, but it makes life feel meaningful. -- yE frE me Kweku Ananse Papa me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 01/15/12 9:27:00 PM #37: |
Biolizard28 posted...
I have my own theories about life after death, but they're mostly scientific in nature. For the record, I don't believe that life stops after death, but explaining my stance is more complicated than that, so let's not. Please explain. -- yE frE me Kweku Ananse Papa me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DigitalIncision 01/15/12 9:27:00 PM #38: |
From: masterplum | #036 No, what you're saying is 100% "I don't steal because the reward after I die will be better than this moment of burgling" -- Digi Sometimes I wonder if the guy who invented sliced bread knew the kind of benchmark he was setting for mankind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3DSRage 01/15/12 9:27:00 PM #39: |
I do good things and be a good person because I want to be.
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FFDragon 01/15/12 9:28:00 PM #40: |
Ayuyu posted...
Have you ever tried really hard imagining how it was before you were born? It's scary as **** trying to imagine pure nothingness. Actually it's probably one of the most calming things imaginable -- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sakurafanboy 01/15/12 9:28:00 PM #41: |
I live because I live.
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Biolizard28 01/15/12 9:31:00 PM #42: |
From: masterplum | #037 I just did. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GwynethPaltrow 01/15/12 9:31:00 PM #43: |
From: masterplum | #036 Yes there is. The harm comes from the harm. You know, like the way you'd rather have a fun and happy life than live in a dungeon getting raped for 75 years (even though you die at the end of both lives and get to the same place). -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5618/gwynethpaltrow.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ayuyu 01/15/12 9:31:00 PM #44: |
From: FFDragon | #040 Yeah right, something that could drive you crazy in a matter of days is really calming, right. Just **** up someone's brain so he can't see, hear, smell, feel or taste anything. He'll go crazy pretty damn fast. That's what pure nothingness is, it'd be as if all your senses were gone. -- http://i40.tinypic.com/mc3igi.gif (Never gonna post the rest) http://img.imgcake.com/happybouncytimegifej.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 01/15/12 9:31:00 PM #45: |
From: masterplum | #036 Because in 10 minutes it DOES mean something. And I care about 10 minutes from now as much as I do 1 year from now as much as I do about any time in the future in which I am alive. That's enough for me to build a set of morals. -- _foolmo_ 'but that statement is something only an Aspergers patient would say' - UltimaterializerX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingBartz 01/15/12 9:31:00 PM #46: |
masterplum please just stop
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Xiahou Shake 01/15/12 9:32:00 PM #47: |
From: FFDragon | #040 I don't know about calming, but certainly isn't scary. It's just nothing. Literally. >_> -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeepsPraw 01/15/12 9:32:00 PM #48: |
masterplum posted...
Like if everyone ended up the same no matter what then there is no harm from harming someone else. Murdering people would get people to the exact same state except faster for instance. Why resist theft if in a hundred years it means nothing? Except we have a thing called society. There are repercussions to your actions in life. Normal people don't resist murder because they're worried about going to hell, they don't murder because we as a society have deemed it wrong and have a multitude of punishments for it. -- Jerry Sandusky is a football God! Jerry Sandusky is a football LEGEND! http://youtu.be/B3fRhOfkc_w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ayuyu 01/15/12 9:32:00 PM #49: |
From: Xiahou Shake | #048 Well the idea of becoming crazy scares me, so something that can cause just that scares me. -- http://i40.tinypic.com/mc3igi.gif (Never gonna post the rest) http://img.imgcake.com/happybouncytimegifej.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3DSRage 01/15/12 9:33:00 PM #50: |
itt lots of people who are insecure and scared of the time before and after they are alive.
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