Board 8 > Ahem... there's SAND on my boots! [Playthrough Topic] [Kefka]

(+) Yeah! (+)

That only gives me the option to switch the "Order" around.

Order = row?

Are the bottom two characters on the menu the back row people?

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no

click on a character twice and they'll be put in back row

do it again and they'll move back to front

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The little shrimp's grown into a whopping lobster!

And you're a king crab!





They should make a Super Figaro Bros. These guys are top tier.

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Edgar and Sabin the best

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Celes > Locke > Edgar > Sabin > Terra > Shadow > everyone else, as far as the heroes go.

FFVI is only going to build up until...a certain point, I suppose, and so will Kefka, into the greatest VG character of all time! On a side note, why are my two favorite Square characters both "bad guys" (Kefka and Magus)? Yes I know FFVI and CT are the only two Square games I've played, but I've heard that characterization actually tapers off in Square's later titles, and the board seems to agree.

While I was playing through FFVI I was actually kinda thinking about how much better the scenes could be in "HD", but I was gradually turned over to the opposite view, and now I think I'm fully converted. Perhaps watching a certain 2011 movie that was essentially all flashy effects and no substance left a bad taste in my mouth for modern-day stuff.

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From: LinkMarioSamus | #205
On a side note, why are my two favorite Square characters both "bad guys" (Kefka and Magus)?

FFVI and CT are the only two Square games I've played

You answered your own question.

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Yeah I should probably ask once I have beaten more Square titles (seeing how I already like Kefka and Magus more than any Nintendo character, I'm definitely pumped up for it!).

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Good lord, I don't think I've saved since before the last Kefka fight. Must live!

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I think I'm gearing toward the Opera Scene. Now, as I understand it, this is one of the most oft mentioned scenes in gaming history. I think I've known of it for damn near a decade, having no idea what it is. Well, expectations that have had a decade to stew should taste mighty good, right?

I shall watch.

With judgment as unforgiving as a thousand Ultis.

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LMAO ULTROS OUTTA NOWHERE

Ultros, in conjunction with this 1920s silent film era music, just cracked me up. So well played.

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SABIN: Uh?
Why's everyone singing?

This guy should get his own series with Zangief and Haggar.

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That has to be the best comment ever.

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yeah, I don't think you'll get too into Kefka. I'll talk about it more later once you've seen how things play out.

knew you'd like Sabin though! Blitz the best

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oh, and I usually just make two groups for that part and put like Gau on his own. a four person party vs. Kefka is a lot easier. you just have to be on your toes for the soldiers rushing you.

I always thought that part was really cool and had great buildup with the three scenarios.

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Opera scene already?

daaaaamnit, gotta keep playing, gotta keep playing.

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Can't believe the lack of Gau love. One of the best characters in the game. Cyan is awful though and is shelved as soon as I can do it.

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Gau has one really good scene in the latter half of the game, but overall, he's pretty meh.

Love Cyan though.

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when I was a kid I used to love Gau, like I think he was my favourite character back then


nowadays he's like not even in my top 6


Cyan is awesome though I have no idea how anybody could hate him

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Cyan is for players who like to sit there waiting for a bar to fill.

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Gau's actually character has never done much for me apart from that one late-game scene. But then again, a good third of FFVI's cast is kinda "meh" to me.

Gau in combat though? Train him up right and drop your jaw!

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Not a fan of Cyan, too poetic for my tastes.

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Gau = Depends on playthrough. Can be the best, if I put the time into training him. Usually gets benched.

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I still rather enjoy Cyan myself. Battle-wise he isn't great though.

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Yeah, when I was a kid I always used Cyan for some reason. But replaying the game years later made me realize how much his ability sucked.

Still, he does get some of the best cutscenes in the game.

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Oh, yeah. Character wise, Cyan is top tier.

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Oh yeah, he's a terrific character. It's a shame his ability... sucked, yep.

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I only ever use the first level of his ability. It does slightly more damage than his auto-attack so its just a substitute to his auto-attack.

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I'll sometimes go up higher for the hell of it but that's basically the best strategy.

Still, not exactly what the designers intended!

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They should have let the bar charge while other characters attack.

So quickly select everyone else first, charge up while they are attack and attack right after the third character finishes.

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After thwarting Kefka, I pick my foursome (Celes, Locke, the Figabros) to search for SSJ3 Terra. According to witnesses, she was cited in Kohlingen, a town to the north. We head to Figaro Castle (where I see the awesome and enriching Figabros cutscene) and use its amazing mobility to burrow under mountains and appear by Kohlingen. It's a small town. I'm too late to catch Terra, as she has already left, passing the town of Jidoor to the south. The only other thing of interest here is the kick-off to what appears to be Locke's main side quest, The Rachel Situation (do you see a sign out there that says Dead Rachel Storage?!). They were in love. He failed her. She died. He used a crazy shaman to put her in a state of suspended animation. That's where she is now, in an infinite and loveless sleep, with no means for an awakening. Oh, I bet I find one! Gimme 10-20 gameplay hours. We follow Terra's tracks south to Jidoor.

I use Jidoor to beef up my gear, but I'm once again too late for Terra. Witnesses tell me she was last in Zozo, a seedy town full of thieves, grifters, and other unscrupulous types. We buckle down and head there. Zozo's reputation is well earned. It's dark, rainy, dilapidated, and is the first FF town I've seen that actually has random encounters. Not even a veneer of safety here, so I have to watch it. The town is punctuated by some large central towers. I figure ascending them will give me answers. Up I go, fighting some unique and trickier enemies. Before the top, there's a boss fight against a big karate dude, but he falls without much trouble. For the fourth time in four Square RPGs, I may be overleveled again (Sabin's at 18 if that means anything to you guys).

Having conquered the town, I enter the last tower room and discover... SSJ3 Terra! She's recovering on a bed, being guarded by an old man named Ramuh (right away, I knew this guy was gonna end up as some lightning elemental, and people say I don't know mah Final Fanasy!). Not long into the conversation, Ramuh drops one bombshell after another:

- He is an Esper.
- Espers can use magic and have incredible and mysterious magical powers.
- The Empire is abducting Espers for Magic experimentation, torturing and even killing many.
- An Esper's magic can only be totally harnessed when the Esper dies.*
- *When he goes to King Kai's house**
- ** THE OTHER DIMENSION
- Upon death, an Esper's essence becomes Magicite
- Magicites are this game's summons***
- ***After 12 hours of buildup, I will never use them unless for an impossible bonus boss
- Terra is unique, not really a normal Esper, not even Ramuh can put his finger on it
- The Empire's sick experiments are being conducted in Doan (just kidding, in Vector), the capital
- If we go there and help the Esper's, we may be able to help Terra

After progressing the story, Ramuh gives up his life and turns into a useless Lightning Elemental that apparently costs like 25 ****ing MP to summon. Yeah, right. He would have been much more useful just following me around saying funny stuff, Deckard Cain style. The team is now determined to launch an assault on Vector and help the Espers, thereby helping Terra. We journey back to Jidoor in search of leads.

There, we make for Owzer's House, the largest building in town. We find the Impresario (best title ever), the dude who runs the Opera House. He marvels at our beautiful Celes, claiming that she is the spitting image of Maria, the opera star. He informs us that Mario has captured the heart of Setzer, a famous (or infamous) gambler, rich dude, adventurer, rapscallion, and owner of the world's only functional airship. He plans to steal Maria at tonight's show and wed her.

For our party, this is interesting news indeed, as we need an airship to reach Vector. We devise a sneaky plan and make our way toward the Opera House.

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Espers are not that useless at all, actually. Of course you know about the whole teaching magic bit, right?

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Should we mention the easily missed but cool item that can be gotten in Zozo?

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From: Grand Kirby | #235
Should we mention the easily missed but cool item that can be gotten in Zozo?

Got it. =)

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Unless you mean the summons themselves, which kind of are (with a couple of notable exceptions, like Phantom. Maduin isn't bad either)

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It's a good thing you took the Figabros with you to the castle. You can actually miss out on that scene. (You can go back and view it later too though.)

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And yeah, Espers are definitely useful for learning magic and boosting stats per level.

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Espers. The best magic learning system in a FF game, bar none.

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I find myself glued to ensuring the proper characters receive their best possible stats though so the micromanagement of checking when everyone is about to level all the time slays me.

But that's more a me thing than anything.

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I do it as well Jeff <_<

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NERDS

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He's not going to get that reference yet!

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You could always just not level up at all until you get all the best Espers then level up your characters one at a time. >_>

Cyan's SwdTech may not be that good normally, but you can abuse a glitch with it to let you win almost any battle.

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Espers. The best magic learning system in a FF game, bar none.

I can think of at least 5 systems that are better.
Sorry, but a system that is likely to just end up with every character knowing everything (no excessive grinding needed either) is not a good system imo.

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