Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 20 - "Do you wanna play? It'll be fun."

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Silver_Ermine
07/11/11 5:34:00 PM
#51:


"Rather than a full reset, players will have their Elo rating reset to certain milestone values based upon their finish at the closing of Season One. More details will be coming as we draw closer to the event."

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HeroicGammaRay
07/11/11 5:34:00 PM
#52:


yorick is anti-fun

try sololaning against him
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TheConductorSix
07/11/11 5:36:00 PM
#53:


Like I said, I've been solo laning ALOT lately and the only person able to outlast me is Morde.

I usually don't even have to recall until level 10. Thanks Mana Regen Seals and Glyphs :)

Dat E move. Soo good.

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Biolizard28
07/11/11 8:13:00 PM
#54:


I knew it.

I knew Cassiopeia would be free this week.

I just. Knew

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Justin_Crossing
07/11/11 10:53:00 PM
#55:


well she hasn't been free for months so it does make sense

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Justin_Crossing
07/11/11 10:57:00 PM
#56:


From: Silver_Ermine | #051
"Rather than a full reset, players will have their Elo rating reset to certain milestone values based upon their finish at the closing of Season One. More details will be coming as we draw closer to the event."


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HeroicGammaRay
07/11/11 10:59:00 PM
#57:


it's not really a big deal
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Anagram
07/11/11 11:00:00 PM
#58:


Free Week Characters


Cassiopeia
Annie
Cho'gath
Fiddlesticks
Rammus
Sivir
Soraka
Garen
Renekton
Vayne

Wow, two 450s in one week. Nice.

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Lopen
07/11/11 11:02:00 PM
#59:


Bleh.

I want the robot chick to be free one of these weeks. Then I'd actually play a few.

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TheConductorSix
07/11/11 11:15:00 PM
#60:


i wanna try out Cass

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Anagram
07/11/11 11:28:00 PM
#61:


I've heard Cass has incredible potential, but is so hard to use few people bother with her.

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KanzarisKelshen
07/12/11 12:17:00 AM
#62:


Yeah, cass is basically a one-frame link character, in fighting game terms. Imagine chaining something like 30 moves together with single frame windows, and if you do it you win. That's Cass in a nutshell.


On another note, literally giving a carry ONE FRICKIN' HUNDRED FREE CRIT DAMAGE AND AD. Jesus, what the HELL is wrong with RIOT?! 350% crits with an extra 100 AD. Ridiculous!

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Justin_Crossing
07/12/11 12:22:00 AM
#63:


Wait what? Are they buffing IE?

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KanzarisKelshen
07/12/11 12:42:00 AM
#64:


Justin_Crossing posted...
Wait what? Are they buffing IE?

No, they're buffing Bloodlust. Read what was posted about Trynd: Bloodlust now scales with Rage, both its crit damage boost and AD bonus. So if 100 Rage = 100% bonus crit damage...250% base plus IE + 100% Bloodlust = 350% total multiplier. Which is completely stupid, for sure.

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Justin_Crossing
07/12/11 2:05:00 AM
#65:


I don't think it will be that fubar.

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Lopen
07/12/11 2:12:00 AM
#66:


So I finally just played three games with nerfed Eve. Lost every game and had somewhat poor KDA, but the pubs were pretty bad in all three of them. I also mistakenly got Soul Stealer too early in one of them, so yeah, a little of bad partners and being rusty.

I think the lack of stun mattered in each game, but only once. Strangely only one time did I feel it cost me a kill.

Once I tried to gank a Leblanc and had her very close and she bursted me down. Whoops.
Once a TF used his teleport to jump on me when I was stealthed-- had I had stun I could've got away
Once I could've saved myself almost dying (then subsequently dying from a Karth ult) by stunning a Katarina with Oracle's who was doing Death Lotus right next to me.

I stand by the idea that the lack of health gain on the ult hurts more. There were many times after teamfights where I was at 400 hp or so where I had to withdraw when I'd normally be at 1000 or so.

Might start building deathfire grasp early now that hitting out of stun matters less-- always seemed like a good one to get but I shied away cause if you open with DFG they didn't get stunned and if you opened with Ravage they were mostly dead anyway and didn't seem worth it. Maybe I'll build her like I do Veigar for fun and get Gunblade too. I dunno. I'll have to play a few more games to know for sure how to adapt, but it doesn't seem too bad.

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Justin_Crossing
07/12/11 10:35:00 AM
#67:


still no leona in sight great job riot (don't care about her, i just want Skarner after)

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jdizzy156
07/12/11 10:46:00 AM
#68:


Finally got enough ip for Noc. Now I just gotta learn him. Any tips.

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07/12/11 10:48:00 AM
#69:


From what I understand, they won't release Leona on the US server before they can release her on the EU server, because then Europeans would log into American accounts and crash our servers. The problem is that they can't release her in Europe because they're trying to split the servers, and they don't even have a timeframe on that at all, so everything has turned into a huge mess.

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Justin_Crossing
07/12/11 10:49:00 AM
#70:


From: jdizzy156 | #068
Finally got enough ip for Noc. Now I just gotta learn him. Any tips.


jungle with him, start with armor 5 pots, then go wriggles, and buy merc treads

other than that i don't really know

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KanzarisKelshen
07/12/11 5:09:00 PM
#71:


HOT STEALTH INFO

Everyone has reduced Oracles, but Evelynn and Twitch are perma-stealthed. -Xypherous

Evelynn can have her stun back, because now you have advanced warning of her when she steps in. -Xypherous


http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=958111

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Biolizard28
07/12/11 5:18:00 PM
#72:


Good.... good....

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KanzarisKelshen
07/12/11 5:21:00 PM
#73:


I don't think I can put into words how happy this makes me. Ermine, I look forward to a rematch between your Twitch and my Morde once the paranoia aspect is out. I can deal with true damage if I can see it coming. :)

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Lopen
07/12/11 5:52:00 PM
#74:


I don't really care about the new stealth system. Could be good, could be bad.

I'm just glad that they're apparently reworking how Eve's ult works so that on activation it gives her a short term damage shield. Well, hopefully she gets more protection than the crap she has now.

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KanzarisKelshen
07/12/11 6:09:00 PM
#75:


Lopen posted...
I don't really care about the new stealth system. Could be good, could be bad.

I'm just glad that they're apparently reworking how Eve's ult works so that on activation it gives her a short term damage shield. Well, hopefully she gets more protection than the crap she has now.


Also, stun. Also, teledash. Also, ward scouting move. Also, midrange poke. Gonna be a good time to Evelynn it up!

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Heroic_CactObo
07/12/11 7:09:00 PM
#76:


yeah I need to see it in action before I make a judgement

the always-on oracles seems nice, but the always-on stealth seems a bit insane, especially since that's a level 1 ability

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KanzarisKelshen
07/12/11 8:38:00 PM
#77:


Heroic_CactObo posted...
yeah I need to see it in action before I make a judgement

the always-on oracles seems nice, but the always-on stealth seems a bit insane, especially since that's a level 1 ability

so how are they going to make the stealth skills worth upgrading after level 1?


Giving them good stuff? Like say, an AS buff on Twitch's Q.

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Lopen
07/12/11 9:00:00 PM
#78:


Yeah I figure the stealth will be a passive that's mapped to an active that's also useful. That'd make the most sense.

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TheConductorSix
07/12/11 10:03:00 PM
#79:


Cass is AMAZING. Absolutely amazing.

She's like Urgot with a ridiculous lock on and Poison.

But then she backs it up with what might be the best AOE in the game. Team wide Stun? Yes, please!

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KanzarisKelshen
07/12/11 10:21:00 PM
#80:


TheConductorSix posted...
Cass is AMAZING. Absolutely amazing.

She's like Urgot with a ridiculous lock on and Poison.

But then she backs it up with what might be the best AOE in the game. Team wide Stun? Yes, please!


Except she doesn't have 1.4k range. So, nothing like urgot at all!

(Not to say she's bad, but it's a really really poor comparison)

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07/12/11 10:24:00 PM
#81:


I can't believe Leona is still not out yet. And you just know she'll cost 6300 IP and the next champion after her will be delayed by virtue of Leona's delayal. We'll be lucky if she comes out next week.

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Justin_Crossing
07/12/11 10:54:00 PM
#82:


From: TheConductorSix | #079
Cass is AMAZING. Absolutely amazing.

She's like Urgot with a ridiculous lock on and Poison.

But then she backs it up with what might be the best AOE in the game. Team wide Stun? Yes, please!


situational team-wide stun*

i really love cass and she's a great pubstomper, but a well-timed CC to cleanse poison shuts her down because she has to reapply before twin fang spam again

also inclined to agree your comparison is bad. twin fang is already a targetted skill, urgot is not >_>

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Heroic_CactObo
07/12/11 10:55:00 PM
#83:


From: Lopen | #078
Yeah I figure the stealth will be a passive that's mapped to an active that's also useful. That'd make the most sense.



from what I read it sounds like the stealth ability will be "level 1 is infinite stealth" which means there's no reason to level that ability if all it gives is the one thing

so either that ability will have something else on it and be OP (infinite stealth and scaling damage/defense/whatever on 1 ability is stupid) or it will be a level 1-only ability and be completely confusing

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TheConductorSix
07/12/11 11:35:00 PM
#84:


The comparison isn't as bad as you're making it out to be.

Both Have a cursor aimed poison and an follow up move that can be spammed relentlessly if the poison is on.

Also, I won't Poison someone with Cleanse......

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Heroic_CactObo
07/12/11 11:42:00 PM
#85:


yeah I'm with realo, cassio is ridiculous

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Heroic_CactObo
07/12/11 11:44:00 PM
#86:


I also think the spammable-damage-from-ranged-following-setup-skill comparison is a pretty good analogy, although I would have compared her to ryze because her E reminds me of his Q
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KanzarisKelshen
07/12/11 11:48:00 PM
#87:


That's when you miasma though. Cass' ultimate combo is Q into E into R into W into so many E's your key breaks. In theory at least.

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Justin_Crossing
07/12/11 11:48:00 PM
#88:


no you misunderstand, realo.

say you're trying to kill a sion. you hit your Q, hit him, then after your first twin fang he stuns you. the before you can twin fang again, the poison fades. then you have to wait the full delay time for the Q to reapply the poison before hitting with twin fang again or else your output is shot because twin fang will go on CD.

i'm not talking about cleanse the summoner spell

like, i'm not saying she's bad or anything. i've played her a fair amount and usually wreck with her, but she's fairly easy to counter if you're smart enough. i actually level my q up first because the AoE in early teamfights is more valuable than twin fang is as a single target nuke at level 9, and Q farms like a boss. FD and I discussed this earlier too, that there's such a relatively high chance to miss a twin fang and let it go on CD and nuke your output, and then you're hooped. she's great while you maintain her, but yeah

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Heroic_CactObo
07/12/11 11:49:00 PM
#89:


her Q is on a 3 second cooldown, and isn't THAT hard to hit if someone is standing there hitting you

also she has 2 other spells that re-apply poison if you can't wait for Q to be up, not to mention that laning with a singed or teemo makes it that much easier

honestly I think keeping poison is easier than keeping up urgot's targeter

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KanzarisKelshen
07/13/11 12:03:00 AM
#90:


And permaslows. And damage debuffing. And resistance shredding. And total immunity to damage for 3 seconds. ;)

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Heroic_CactObo
07/13/11 12:06:00 AM
#91:


nah I was talking about the comparison between conditional targeted abilities

the rest of their kits are wildly different, yeah, duh
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KanzarisKelshen
07/13/11 12:13:00 AM
#92:


See, you were talking about the conditional targets. I was talking about lane bullying. Cass just can't do the same thing because she has to get into someone's face, while urgot derps at ultra-long range and if the other guy closes in he has a billion tools to guarantee victory. This is why they're not alike: Urgot is ALL about winning the lane decisively, Cass is about farming your core items and laying waste to a teamfight through mad deeps. It's not worth it to compare them. Caitlyn is arguably a better fit, or, as you said, Ryze.

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Justin_Crossing
07/13/11 1:29:00 AM
#93:


i have had two separate games tonight where 3 of my teammates have fed and died over 10 times

****ing stupid as ****

that is why i am stuck at this ****ing elo.

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red13n
07/13/11 1:43:00 AM
#94:


the simplest solution is to make 3 of your opponents feed and die over 10 times.

problem/elo solved.

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MercuryAdept17
07/13/11 1:43:00 AM
#95:


Soooo... Irelia is ridiculously easy to roll games with. Whenever there's a jungler, I solo top and proceed to roll everything. Even with the constant nerfs, she still seems pretty unstoppable. Any thoughts on Irelia from others?

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Justin_Crossing
07/13/11 1:45:00 AM
#96:


From: red13n | #094
the simplest solution is to make 3 of your opponents feed and die over 10 times.

problem/elo solved.


well this was the epitome of constructive

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Silver_Ermine
07/13/11 1:45:00 AM
#97:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
I don't think I can put into words how happy this makes me. Ermine, I look forward to a rematch between your Twitch and my Morde once the paranoia aspect is out. I can deal with true damage if I can see it coming. :)

Considering I'm straight up just a better player than you, I'm pretty sure the outcome won't be much different.

I look forward to seeing what all these changes entail for Twitch. He's my main rat so hopefully I can adapt quickly and continue destroying faces :)

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red13n
07/13/11 1:57:00 AM
#98:


well this was the epitome of constructive

It was plenty constructive. I cant see what elo you are at, but if thats the case it means you are at the elo where you quite literally need to be carrying the game to get out of it. If you cant do that, you probably dont deserve to be out of it. You should be picking strong champions that can decimate entire teams.

You probably shouldnt be picking Caitlyn at that elo for instance. Caitlyn's role is to shut down an opponents farm, assuring that at least 1 of your opponents is undergeared/underleveled. What she doesnt do well is decimate entire teams. You should be sticking to Corki/MF/Vayne as far as AD carries are concerned(Ashe's utility isnt worthwhile at this level of play).

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KanzarisKelshen
07/13/11 2:06:00 AM
#99:


Silver_Ermine posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I don't think I can put into words how happy this makes me. Ermine, I look forward to a rematch between your Twitch and my Morde once the paranoia aspect is out. I can deal with true damage if I can see it coming. :)

Considering I'm straight up just a better player than you, I'm pretty sure the outcome won't be much different.

I look forward to seeing what all these changes entail for Twitch. He's my main rat so hopefully I can adapt quickly and continue destroying faces :)


You might be surprised! I've picked up a couple new tricks which would make the matchup fun. Not saying I would beat you for sure, but I think it'd be a lot closer to even. Also, not having to blindfire E into the air just guessing where you might be would help a lot too, obviously. :P

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Silver_Ermine
07/13/11 2:11:00 AM
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KanzarisKelshen posted...
Silver_Ermine posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I don't think I can put into words how happy this makes me. Ermine, I look forward to a rematch between your Twitch and my Morde once the paranoia aspect is out. I can deal with true damage if I can see it coming. :)

Considering I'm straight up just a better player than you, I'm pretty sure the outcome won't be much different.

I look forward to seeing what all these changes entail for Twitch. He's my main rat so hopefully I can adapt quickly and continue destroying faces :)

You might be surprised! I've picked up a couple new tricks which would make the matchup fun. Not saying I would beat you for sure, but I think it'd be a lot closer to even. Also, not having to blindfire E into the air just guessing where you might be would help a lot too, obviously. :P


I wouldn't doubt it. Twitch is one of the worst solo laners.

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