Board 8 > Activision Blizzard being sued California for a toxic work environment.

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kevwaffles
07/28/21 6:30:57 PM
#201:


It's something that is certainly not decisive on its own, but coupled with other evidence shows a pattern.

That said, it only takes one person who is familiar and believes it to push for that. Quite probable most didn't think of it that way.
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CoolCly
07/28/21 6:37:22 PM
#202:


PrinceOfKoopas posted...
Yeah, that... demonstrates what I said! Nothing went "viral" until 2014 and that's when a bunch of "fresh accusations" happened.

The stuff that happened 8 years before was... a lot more quiet. And settled. Reasonable that Activision people wouldn't think about it in 2013.

Edit: As proof of what I'm saying, I'll point out The Cosby Show was still being syndicated on TV until the 2014 fresh accusations.


This post feels way more about proving that you are right about something than engaging with the actual topic.....

Anyways - that timeline actually sounds like it strikes the exact right balance for this Blizzard Cosby Chat to be really creepy.... Consider a couple of assumptions

a) if there was literally no reference in the public about Cosby's actions by 2013, then they wouldn't have heard about it, so there's no conceivable way that this could have been a reference the horrible things he did, and would just have to be a reference to the sweater and ugly board room that has now aged extremely poorly.

b) there's probably no way that a group like this would openly make this group and even tweet about it in todays climate of how blatantly obviously guilty Cosby is. That would just be horrible and attacked immediately

So for this group to be a reference to Cosby's gross actions, then 2013 would need to be in a sweet spot where it had been surfacing enough that some people had heard about it and would potentially make crude jokes about it, but not widespread enough that it would be so blatantly horrible and that they'd get cancelled for it

That time line looks like its in that sweet spot.....


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CoolCly
07/28/21 6:41:47 PM
#203:


UshiromiyaEva posted...


Like, we s*** on him now, but until he got convicted people would still have hate people for going after Cosby in the same way as if you were trying to go after Mr Roger.


I'm curious how many people in here are aware that Cosby's conviction was overturned and he was released from prison, with a lot of people happy about it that think he was wrongfully convicted

(it was because of a legal loophole where he'd been granted immunity for testifying in another case and a later DA decided to ignore it, the conviction wasn't overturned because he's innocent or anything [because he's not])

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StealThisSheen
07/28/21 6:42:33 PM
#204:


Yeah, 2013 is the "wink wink, nudge nudge" time, since after it blew up there's no more winking and nudging and instead a slap across the face, so the timeline absolutely fits. And honestly, it probably makes it more likely, since that being the perfect time to "wink wink, nudge nudge" and make crude jokes about it seems more plausible that was the intention than them just randomly deciding "So, Cosby tonight?" out of the blue at that exact time.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/28/21 6:45:27 PM
#205:


CoolCly posted...
I'm curious how many people in here are aware that Cosby's conviction was overturned and he was released from prison, with a lot of people happy about it that think he was wrongfully convicted


Yeah, I'm aware at least.

I don't consider alt-righters "people", so...

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MoogleKupo141
07/28/21 6:50:42 PM
#206:


I dont think the people on Cosbys side are the alt-right. The tweets I saw seemed to be black people who think he was wrongfully targeted / is being persecuted for being a successful black man( just like Michael Jackson and R. Kelly!)
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Team Rocket Elite
07/28/21 6:54:58 PM
#207:


Did Cosby actually have a famous sweater?
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kevwaffles
07/28/21 6:57:55 PM
#208:


Not like a particular one, but he was always wearing sweaters on The Cosby Show at least.
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ShadowDoomBlaze
07/28/21 7:22:30 PM
#209:


Bill Cosby was not let out because of being innocent. He was let out because the way he was prosecuted was illegal.
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ShadowDoomBlaze
07/28/21 7:27:21 PM
#210:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
I cant say for sure what the Activision people did or did not know about at the time, but the rumblings of Cosby stuff had definitely been their way into the mainstream by 2013
You know how my brother in law did sound engineering for Blizz and some of you thought I was making it up? There's a reason I've been shitting on them for so long, and it isn't only because their games suck. You guys should maybe, just once in awhile, consider that I actually know what I'm talking about.

I have been telling you Blizzard is shit for 20 years. It was no accident they turned out like this. My fear though is they knew this was coming two years ago and chose to let it go to court because they feel like California has no case. There is an above-zero chance that despite being flagrantly and obviously guilty, a court of law won't agree.
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UshiromiyaEva
07/28/21 7:29:31 PM
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ShadowDoomBlaze
07/28/21 7:35:20 PM
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Forceful_Dragon
07/28/21 7:40:14 PM
#213:


ShadowDoomBlaze posted...
There's a reason I've been shitting on them for so long, and it isn't only because their games suck.

Please show receipts of claiming blizzard was fostering a "toxic culture of sexual harassment" from 20 years ago.

Otherwise nobody cares.

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MoogleKupo141
07/28/21 8:02:36 PM
#214:


yeah I probably have old posts defending the quality of some of Blizzards games, but I kinda doubt I ever made any particular claim about how much sexual harassment they may or may not have been doing.

feels like youre claiming victory for saying Blizzard is bad even though the reason its bad right now is wildly different from what youre always talking about
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Mr Lasastryke
07/28/21 8:22:51 PM
#215:


pretty sure this board didn't even exist yet 20 years ago

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red13n
07/28/21 8:39:57 PM
#216:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
pretty sure this board didn't even exist yet 20 years ago

Can only say this for one more year.

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cerna_zelva
07/28/21 9:16:49 PM
#217:


kevwaffles posted...
Didn't you guys know that only after formal charges are filed can you assume someone might have done something bad?

Unless it's against a company. Then it still doesn't count.
I'm not sure if you're trying to be ironic or not, but the very foundation of the justice system is being innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. In Cosby's case, he was very much guilty, because the conviction was only overturned on a technicality because he took a plea deal.

Nothing to this point has been proven about Blizzard, and everything in the CIVIL lawsuit is all hearsay and vague insinitations (which you can tell if anyone in this topic would actually read the document instead of taking the slanted Kotaku "hot take"). Does Blizzard have a shitty frat boy culture because a bunch of neckbeards found themselves in a position with too much fame/money? By all accounts yes. Has Blizzard done anything illegal? Not at all. Have some Blizzard employees done illegal things? Potentially and probably, but you can't blame a company with thousands of employees for the actions of a handful. If that was the case, every company in the world with more than 500 employees is "guilty".
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cerna_zelva
07/28/21 9:17:58 PM
#218:


Also, watch this Simpsons clip and re-evaluate your lives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-vuVjiF8Jk
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KingButz
07/28/21 9:23:01 PM
#219:


cerna_zelva posted...
kevwaffles posted...
Didn't you guys know that only after formal charges are filed can you assume someone might have done something bad?

Unless it's against a company. Then it still doesn't count.
I'm not sure if you're trying to be ironic or not, but the very foundation of the justice system is being innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. In Cosby's case, he was very much guilty, because the conviction was only overturned on a technicality because he took a plea deal.

Nothing to this point has been proven about Blizzard, and everything in the CIVIL lawsuit is all hearsay and vague insinitations (which you can tell if anyone in this topic would actually read the document instead of taking the slanted Kotaku "hot take"). Does Blizzard have a s***ty frat boy culture because a bunch of neckbeards found themselves in a position with too much fame/money? By all accounts yes. Has Blizzard done anything illegal? Not at all. Have some Blizzard employees done illegal things? Potentially and probably, but you can't blame a company with thousands of employees for the actions of a handful. If that was the case, every company in the world with more than 500 employees is "guilty".


I don't even know where to begin with this post
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kevwaffles
07/28/21 9:32:45 PM
#220:


Start nowhere. It's BT's alt. He posted that same Simpson's clip as if it "disproves" all allegations of anything anywhere in Ulti's topic.
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UshiromiyaEva
07/28/21 9:38:55 PM
#221:


I knew as soon as he posted and he's out.

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Rango
07/28/21 10:16:00 PM
#222:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
I mean 15 years ago it produced some amazing things. 25 years ago we loved Bill Cosby. Get over yourself lol

Aww you mad bro?

lol

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DoomTheGyarados
07/28/21 10:21:18 PM
#223:


Yeah stupidity does tend to bother me a bit.

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Kenri
07/28/21 11:22:21 PM
#224:


cerna_zelva posted...
you can't blame a company with thousands of employees for the actions of a handful. If that was the case, every company in the world with more than 500 employees is "guilty".
*thinking emoji*

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Mr Lasastryke
07/29/21 2:19:28 AM
#225:


i like how ulti and BT keep returning to this topic with alts, even though ulti has his own blizzard topic and they can just talk about this shit over there. why do they feel such a need to shove their opinions down our throats?

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Mr Lasastryke
07/29/21 2:25:04 AM
#226:


oh BT's main is warned lol

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UshiromiyaEva
07/29/21 2:31:17 AM
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Bane_Of_Despair
07/29/21 2:41:14 AM
#228:


https://twitter.com/JDespland/status/1420534909752463361?s=19

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kevwaffles
07/29/21 2:41:39 AM
#229:


Apparently both his accounts are warned for The Simpsons clip posts? Admittedly I'm a bit confused on why that's the line, general stupidity aside.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/29/21 2:43:13 AM
#230:


oh yeah didn't notice the cerna_zelva alt is warned too.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/29/21 2:54:00 AM
#231:


Maybe they're starting to crack down on people for trying to get past blocks with alts?

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Mr Lasastryke
07/29/21 3:05:27 AM
#232:


but then they should crack down on ulti too.

then again, mod pockets

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xp1337
07/29/21 10:36:51 PM
#233:


Some new allegations covered here: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/technology/activision-walkout-metoo-call-of-duty.html

Among them:

The New York Times reports...
Ms. Welch, who joined Activision in 2011 as vice president of consumer strategy and insights, said she had known that the company was reputed to have a combative culture but had been intrigued by the prominent role.

Then at a hotel on a work trip that year, Ms. Welch said, an executive pressured her to have sex with him because she "deserved to have some fun" after her boyfriend had died weeks earlier. She said she had turned him down.

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She did not report the incidents, she said, partly because she did not want to admit to herself that her gender was a "professional liability" and she loved her work. But by 2016, she said, her doctor had persuaded her to leave because the stress was hurting her health.

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KamikazePotato
07/29/21 10:40:17 PM
#234:


Hoo boy, they're just straight up evil I see

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HaRRicH
07/30/21 12:08:12 PM
#235:


Good news for Activision-Blizzard: no bad news came out for Blizzard today.

Bad news for Activision-Blizzard: bad news came out for Activision today.

https://twitter.com/waypoint/status/1421106742381924352?s=19

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GuessMyUserName
07/30/21 12:20:38 PM
#236:


the fuck

how is this such a massive shit snowball

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Bane_Of_Despair
07/30/21 12:51:56 PM
#237:


xp1337 posted...
an executive pressured her to have sex with him because she "deserved to have some fun" after her boyfriend had died weeks earlier
Hooooooly fuck man

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KamikazePotato
07/30/21 1:08:01 PM
#238:


GuessMyUserName posted...
the fuck

how is this such a massive shit snowball
Big companies have lots of skeletons in the closet.

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/30/21 1:10:56 PM
#239:


Not actiblizz but still lol

https://twitter.com/JDespland/status/1420846399999156224?s=19

This industry sucks

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Nanis23
07/30/21 1:17:47 PM
#240:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Not actiblizz but still lol

https://twitter.com/JDespland/status/1420846399999156224?s=19

This industry sucks
How is this even possible
Like I can't imagine a company telling you you can't have clean waters
Completetly incomprehensible

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UshiromiyaEva
07/30/21 3:55:49 PM
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kevwaffles
07/30/21 7:03:11 PM
#242:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
https://twitter.com/LawofTD/status/1421182577784745985?s=19

Ok, Ashton. You can come out now.

Ashton? Mr. Kutcher?
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WazzupGenius00
07/30/21 11:07:19 PM
#243:


HaRRicH posted...
Good news for Activision-Blizzard: no bad news came out for Blizzard today.

Bad news for Activision-Blizzard: bad news came out for Activision today.

https://twitter.com/waypoint/status/1421106742381924352?s=19
Spoke too soon
https://www.vice.com/en/article/3aq4vv/blizzard-recruiters-asked-hacker-if-she-liked-being-penetrated-at-job-fair

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UshiromiyaEva
07/30/21 11:12:51 PM
#244:


We're approaching death by a thousand cuts here.

The only people who are going to be willing to work for Blizzard now are the kind of people that are causing this mess in the first place.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/31/21 5:09:35 AM
#245:


What on earth?

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DeepsPraw
07/31/21 10:34:40 AM
#246:


okay I'm not familiar with office culture, but why are you bringing an infant to work with you?

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CoolCly
07/31/21 11:12:56 AM
#247:


damn, that one executive really burned his business relationship with Blizzard to the ground ASAP the second he learned they did weird shit to one of his team

imagine if anybody at Blizzard had that integrity

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WazzupGenius00
07/31/21 11:52:48 AM
#248:


DeepsPraw posted...
okay I'm not familiar with office culture, but why are you bringing an infant to work with you?
Bigger companies sometimes offer in-office childcare. Not sure if its the case here, but even if their infant isnt with them, nursing mothers will still use those rooms to pump milk

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XIII_rocks
07/31/21 12:48:54 PM
#249:


Yeah I was under the impression they'd be used for pumping as much as anything. Maybe they have a daycare there too though idk.

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Peace___Frog
07/31/21 1:01:28 PM
#250:


DeepsPraw posted...
okay I'm not familiar with office culture, but why are you bringing an infant to work with you?
Perhaps someone who has had a kid could chime in, but my impression is that when you're breastfeeding you often need to pump regularly in order to prevent your breasts from experiencing uncomfortable side effects. It's common courtesy at large companies to have areas other than the restroom for women in these circumstances.

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