Board 8 > Do you think every Pokemon is someone's favorite?

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Saw a post on a Pokemon group on Facebook. It asked for our favorite Pokemon and someone answered Cramorant, which is kinda crazy to me.

Considering the number of Pokemon and people who play Pokemon, I supposed it is quite likely. But it makes me wonder, which Pokemon has the least amount of people calling it their favorite.


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Absolutely.

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almost every one probably

hard to imagine someone being really into Silcoon or Cascoon though
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no

i don't think anyone's favorite is seaking
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/c0w4s0/favourite_pok%C3%A9mon_survey_results/

survey on reddit, 52,000+ responses

no mentions:
Silcoon
Gothita
Eelektrik
Yungoos

i'm sure they would have gotten mentions if the sample size was larger

My favorite pokemon is Sigilyph so I'm pretty open to the idea that every mon is loved by somebody, even stuff like Lumineon and Garbodor

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I'm not sure about "favorite", but I bet every single Pokemon has someone who is obsessively sexually attracted to it.

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kateee posted...

no mentions:
Silcoon

Well, I'm glad that people at least recognize Cascoon as more interesting than Silcoon, even if only for its color scheme.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/CascoonGang/

kateee posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/c0w4s0/favourite_pok%C3%A9mon_survey_results/

survey on reddit, 52,000+ responses

no mentions:
Silcoon
Gothita
Eelektrik
Yungoos

i'm sure they would have gotten mentions if the sample size was larger

I'm pretty sure this settles it. If we've definitively narrowed out all but these four, I'd say that there's gotta be someone somewhere out there that has each of these as their favorite.

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Underleveled posted...

I'm pretty sure this settles it. If we've definitively narrowed out all but these four, I'd say that there's gotta be someone somewhere out there that has each of these as their favorite.

this survey was pre gen 8, but yeah, pretty much the same story there.

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kateee posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/CascoonGang/

https://i.redd.it/mubjllmbab531.png

This might be the single dumbest thing that's ever gotten me to laugh.

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Yes
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Underleveled posted...

I'm pretty sure this settles it. If we've definitively narrowed out all but these four, I'd say that there's gotta be someone somewhere out there that has each of these as their favorite.

I'm not so sure. I think people are naming Pokemon that aren't their true favorites, I think there's a lot of people who are self-selecting for the most obscure Pokemon that are in their top 10 or so to provide more interesting answers.

Here's a contender for "nobody's favorite".

Cosmoem. The completely unmemorable and non-plot relevant middle evolution between cosmog and solgaleo / lunala. the cascoon / silcoon of legendary pokemon.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

I'm not so sure. I think people are naming Pokemon that aren't their true favorites, I think there's a lot of people who are self-selecting for the most obscure Pokemon that are in their top 10 or so to provide more interesting answers.

That seems like kind of a complicated explanation compared to "there's less than 1000 Pokemon and millions of fans, including 3 mil on that sub alone, so the answer is probably yes."

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who the hell thinks about gorebyss and huntail

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changmas posted...

the cascoon / silcoon of legendary pokemon.

The fact that there is a "Cascoon/Silcoon of legendary Pokemon" makes it noteworthy. And anything that can be considered noteworthy in somebody's mind can be somebody's favorite. We just need 1 person in the whole world, maybe the Reddit poll isn't a big enough sample but I believe that they're out there for every Pokemon.

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changmas posted...

Here's a contender for "nobody's favorite".

Cosmoem. The completely unmemorable and non-plot relevant middle evolution between cosmog and solgaleo / lunala. the cascoon / silcoon of legendary pokemon.

I think you mean the awesome and amazing middle evolution

http://tonsoffacts.com/25-awesome-and-amazing-facts-about-cosmoem-from-pokemon/

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NBIceman posted...

That seems like kind of a complicated explanation compared to "there's less than 1000 Pokemon and millions of fans, including 3 mil on that sub alone, so the answer is probably yes."

It's not that complicated. Do I think every Pokemon is one of at least someone's faves? Yeah. Do I think every Pokemon is someone's absolute ride-or-die fave Pokemon forever? I find it unlikely. The question that people asked was framed in a way as such not JUST to find how many different Pokemon were everyone's favorites, and not just to share those results publicly, but on top of that, to virtue signal how much they like every Pokemon as a protest against SwSh removing Pokemon from the game. So people are highly incentivized to provide unique answers. The question isn't if people fudged the numbers and provided the most obscure Pokemon that is among their favorites, the question is how many.

changmas posted...

Here's a contender for "nobody's favorite".

Cosmoem. The completely unmemorable and non-plot relevant middle evolution between cosmog and solgaleo / lunala. the cascoon / silcoon of legendary pokemon.

it got 1 vote in that Reddit poll

that may be within the margin of error where it could just be someone accidentally clicked the wrong thing or fell over and died on their mouse at the right time
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Paratroopa1 posted...

It's not that complicated. Do I think every Pokemon is one of at least someone's faves? Yeah. Do I think every Pokemon is someone's absolute ride-or-die fave Pokemon forever? I find it unlikely. The question that people asked was framed in a way as such not JUST to find how many different Pokemon were everyone's favorites, and not just to share those results publicly, but on top of that, to virtue signal how much they like every Pokemon as a protest against SwSh removing Pokemon from the game. So people are highly incentivized to provide unique answers. The question isn't if people fudged the numbers and provided the most obscure Pokemon that is among their favorites, the question is how many.

Pokemon GO alone has over a billion downloads, doesn't it? You really don't think that out of a billion-plus fans, you could find one for every Pokemon?

This isn't like wondering if every song ever is someone's favorite - we're working with a pool that still hasn't left the triple digits here.

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Shonen_Bat posted...

I think you mean the awesome and amazing middle evolution

http://tonsoffacts.com/25-awesome-and-amazing-facts-about-cosmoem-from-pokemon/

1. Cosmoem is a Pokemon in the shape of a translucent, dark blue orb with a starscape pattern set in a golden shell like structure.

That's not awesome or amazing, that's just... a fact. Actually they took 7 "facts" on this list of 25 just to describe its appearance 1 sentence at a time.

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Do you know anyone whose favorite Pokemon is Plusle?

I do. I'm friends with someone on this very website who loves that Pokemon and even named their account after it. I wouldn't have expected to ever find someone like that, but they exist. And if they exist for Plusle then they exist for other Pokemon too.

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I feel like you just said something really mean about Plusle there. >_>
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i definitely think it's probable that for the reddit poll, some people were memeing/not being entirely truthful about their absolute #1 favorite

BUT similarly to how i think the 4 Pokemon that got 0 votes in that would have received votes if the sample size was larger, I absolutely believe that every Pokemon has someone who has it as their favorite. like for the purposes of this question, we're not even looking for a significant amount, we're looking for literally ONE person.

like their unique gameplay experiences and other experiences (e.g. Nuzlockes) could have factored into a really unpopular Pokemon genuinely being one person's favorite

Plusle doesnt even seem like a weird choice for favorite. Its a thing that looks very similar to the thing that is the mascot of the entire series, of course someone is going to like it.

I find it harder to imagine the dire life situation that could lead someone to choose Silcoon.

Like my favorite is probably still Bulbasaur in part because he was the first Pokmon I ever had. If the first Pokmon a kid experienced was Silcoon that kid would immediately think Pokmon was garbage and move on with their life. Its nothing.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

I feel like you just said something really mean about Plusle there. >_>

I think that there's a certain threshold of obscurity where people start questioning whether a Pokemon is really anyone's favorite, and Plusle is likely below that threshold. And yet I have empirical evidence showing that this obscure Pokemon really does have a fan. I was just emphasizing the fact that I wasn't speaking hypothetically.

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Shonen_Bat posted...

My favorite pokemon is Sigilyph

You have my undying respect
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Plusle doesnt even seem like a weird choice for favorite. Its a thing that looks very similar to the thing that is the mascot of the entire series, of course someone is going to like it.

I find it harder to imagine the dire life situation that could lead someone to choose Silcoon.

Like my favorite is probably still Bulbasaur in part because he was the first Pokmon I ever had. If the first Pokmon a kid experienced was Silcoon that kid would immediately think Pokmon was garbage and move on with their life. Its nothing.

Well, like kateee said, there's so many crazy ways to play Pokemon these days.

Maybe someone did a crazy difficult Randomizer Nuzlocke where Silcoon was a beast that completely carried them through the game, and due to the hilarity of that situation it's become the Pokemon they have the fondest memories of.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

If the first Pokmon a kid experienced was Silcoon that kid would immediately think Pokmon was garbage and move on with their life. Its nothing.

Is that any different than (in 1999) a kid being given a Metapod TCG card as their first card by a friend, and mentally keeping it in high regards from that point forward (at least for a few months until gradually evolving their tastes due to continued exposure to the series)? Because that happened to me. I don't think it matters whether it was Metapod or Silcoon or Pikachu or Plusle, there's a reason for being attached to a Pokemon.

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theres actually almost a 0% chance that someone somewhere doesn't have a pokemon as their favorite. think of all the 8 year old kids you've never interacted with who started with sword and shield or some shit and love some pokemon you've never heard of. ppl gonna get attached to random shit theres no doubt in my mind that every one is accounted for

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SeabassDebeste posted...

no

i don't think anyone's favorite is seaking

I'm sure this is in jest, but if not, you can't pick one of the biggest Pokemon memes and think he's nobody's favorite.

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All of the gen 1 Pokemon are in the clear. The stuff that I find really dubious is stuff like Duosion, or Binacle. I think you'd have a really hard time scouring the earth finding someone who absolutely 100% vouches for one of those as their favorites and isn't fucking with you.

MoogleKupo141 posted...

I find it harder to imagine the dire life situation that could lead someone to choose Silcoon.

Somebody played RSE or ORAS as a kid, thought Silcoon was alright, barely beat Roxanne thanks to a clutch play from it, attached a strong feeling of joy and accomplishment to the Pokemon. May never have happened, but it's not absurd
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Oh ya go my Wobbufett

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NFUN posted...

Somebody played RSE or ORAS as a kid, thought Silcoon was alright, barely beat Roxanne thanks to a clutch play from it, attached a strong feeling of joy and accomplishment to the Pokemon. May never have happened, but it's not absurd

This is why I love Dunsparce. Guy sucked balls but I rode him till the E4. I know cascoon and silcoon are just two cocoons with barely any unique distinctions but I feel this sentiment.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

All of the gen 1 Pokemon are in the clear. The stuff that I find really dubious is stuff like Duosion, or Binacle. I think you'd have a really hard time scouring the earth finding someone who absolutely 100% vouches for one of those as their favorites and isn't fucking with you.

But you can accept that someone's favorite could be an utterly irredeemable garbage gen 1 Pokemon? Take whatever logic led to that Pokemon becoming their favorite, and apply it to a younger kid playing a later generation in the same circumstances. There's no reason why it couldn't happen; we're not only talking about the 30 year old demographic here.

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A healthy enough flow of newbies into the Pokemon series with each new gen probably makes this question an easy "yes". Assuming that is indeed the case.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

All of the gen 1 Pokemon are in the clear. The stuff that I find really dubious is stuff like Duosion, or Binacle. I think you'd have a really hard time scouring the earth finding someone who absolutely 100% vouches for one of those as their favorites and isn't fucking with you.

i think you're just underestimating how fucking weird some people are. like why couldn't those be anybody's favorite? because they're forgettable or ugly? some people like ugly (i.e. commonly seen as ugly to 'normal' people) things!

There's really no reason that "All of the gen 1 Pokemon are in the clear" for this particular question.

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Alright I want to break this down. Here are some Reasons Why A Pokemon Might Be Somebody's Favorite:
Design (Cool, Badass, Cute, Unique, Weird, Interesting, etc)
Strong
Meme (really stupid, notably useless, notably un-notable, gimmicky, etc)
Based on something somebody likes
Nostalgia/Carried in Gameplay
Childhood capriciousness

So, basically, we're looking for a Pokemon that has a boring design that's either based on an animal with many better Pokemon examples or is based on an object/concept that nobody cares about, isn't very useful in the game, is unremarkable, is gained late enough in any game (probably postgame) that it wouldn't have been a useful member of anybody's team, is missing any kind of factor a kid would glomp on to (probably largely a combination of the pokemon being late-game and having no role in the anime), and, most importantly, is a dark horse for least beloved Pokemon to avoid a Finneon situation. Of course, there's TCG and randomizer nonsense, but I think we can ignore these and be ok. Does any Pokemon fit this bill, to start with?
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-hotdogturtle-- posted...

There's really no reason that "All of the gen 1 Pokemon are in the clear" for this particular question.

Yeah there is. They're vastly more well known and more established, even the 'obscure' ones. I don't have any doubts that you'll find a fair number of people that count any given gen 1 Pokemon as their favorite. Even, like, Gloom, or Shellder, or whatever.

Obscure stuff from gen 4 on is a weirder bag. There's a pretty significantly reduced audience for it and a large % of that audience already likes Pikachu or Charizard or whatever. I'm not saying that there's definitely nobody that counts this stuff as their favorites but I don't find it that unlikely that there is at least one Pokemon that not a single human being is vouching for. I don't know which Pokemon that would be, but there's a couple hundred candidates.

does anyone remember when Bidoof was still considered a newer Pokemon

it got clowned on so much wherever i looked because people thought it looked stupid or whatever. now i could easily believe a bunch of people have it as their #1 fav. and honestly i thought it looked dumb as fuck back then too but looking up pics of it now, it's actually kind of cute. and those COMICS

around when Ermine first said his favorite was Zigzagoon i vaguely recall the general reaction on this very board was something like "that's so random" and "why" and "who would have that as their favorite Pokemon"

like obviously Bidoof and Zigzagoon aren't on the same level as Binacle or whatever but people form attachments based on their own experiences/tastes and the sheer number of people and variables involved lead me to believe that there is definitely an experience that made every Pokemon someone's favorite

My favorite is Venonat because I like the design (not sure I've ever even used a Venonat/Venomoth in the games) so it doesn't take much to become a favorite
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Paratroopa1 posted...

There's a pretty significantly reduced audience for it and a large % of that audience already likes Pikachu or Charizard or whatever.

This doesn't make sense though, especially when you're saying "already". You think it's okay if someone played Pokemon Red when they were 8 and Kakuka is their favorite Pokemon ever, so by the time they play 4 more games they don't like any other Pokemon as much as they like Kakuka. But what if someone was 8 years old when they first played Pokemon Diamond and Burmy is their favorite Pokemon. They're not being "influenced" by the older games, they don't have to "already" like something else when they're discovering new Pokemon for the first time.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

Yeah there is. They're vastly more well known and more established, even the 'obscure' ones. I don't have any doubts that you'll find a fair number of people that count any given gen 1 Pokemon as their favorite. Even, like, Gloom, or Shellder, or whatever.

Obscure stuff from gen 4 on is a weirder bag. There's a pretty significantly reduced audience for it and a large % of that audience already likes Pikachu or Charizard or whatever. I'm not saying that there's definitely nobody that counts this stuff as their favorites but I don't find it that unlikely that there is at least one Pokemon that not a single human being is vouching for. I don't know which Pokemon that would be, but there's a couple hundred candidates.

The first Pokemon game I owned for myself was G/S. I only ever played Red/Blue at my friends' or through emulation. Because of that, for the longest time, my favorite Pokemon was Pineco. Fucking Pineco. I couldn't explain it. Something about a pinecone with eyes appealed to me.

Years later, my little cousin's favorite Pokemon was Ferroseed, and it stuck out to me because it was like "holy shit that's just New Pineco." His reasoning? "It looks like a football."

That was it.

I fully believe people could come up with just about any stupid reason for why something is their favorite.

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-hotdogturtle-- posted...

This doesn't make sense though, especially when you're saying "already". You think it's okay if someone played Pokemon Red when they were 8 and Kakuka is their favorite Pokemon ever, so by the time they play 4 more games they don't like any other Pokemon as much as they like Kakuka. But what if someone was 8 years old when they first played Pokemon Diamond and Burmy is their favorite Pokemon. They're not being "influenced" by the older games, they don't have to "already" like something else when they're discovering new Pokemon for the first time.

Uh, you seem like you're trying really hard to misunderstand what I'm saying, so I'm gonna stop here.

I'm not seeing how your argument of gen 1 Pokemon being "more established" (been around longer) has any effect on someone picking a later one as their favorite.

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StealThisSheen posted...

I fully believe people could come up with just about any stupid reason for why something is their favorite.

Yeah, actually, I'll grant this. Not everyone's obsessively thought about every Pokemon and come to a conclusion on what their #1 is after years of thinking about it, some people just kinda pick a fave for some reason and go with it. I think in my head I was approaching this more from a standpoint of durability, like "does every Pokemon have someone who would consider this Pokemon their favorite without changing their mind for a long period of time", but that's adding extra qualifiers onto the question. Every Pokemon has surely had someone call it their favorite at some point in time.