Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Final Results and Discussion

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swordz9
10/21/20 12:44:59 PM
#252:


I think most of my favorites have won now even if I wasnt part of some of their victories. Next year hmm might be all in on Yuffie, Rikku & Selphie Team Hyper Train
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KommunistKoala
10/21/20 12:45:13 PM
#253:


glad the surgery went well

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Drakeryn
10/21/20 1:00:09 PM
#254:


get well soon ffd

sadly I do not have the doomtrain get well soon pic on this computer
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MartinFF7
10/21/20 1:04:26 PM
#255:


Glad to hear that FFD!

You reminded me I have some more preference stats... day-by-day, who was in the "preference" lead after each elimination:



I had been doing pretty good right up until Day 97, alas...

And for our three "winners", Janus, VI and FFDragon, here's how their average ratings went along the way, starting with the 8.00 average at 15 characters left before ending up at 2.5 with 2 characters left:



FFD taking a hit with the Kefka elimination while VI and Janus had a bounce-up following Barret's, but they all converged towards the end (Janus suffering one last uptick from the terrible Tifa elimination)

Okay now I need to figure out how to get the compatibility stats captured without taking screenshots.... that'll be later today I guess.
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TheArkOfTurus
10/21/20 1:15:51 PM
#256:


Really glad to hear, FFD.

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Eddv
10/21/20 1:19:28 PM
#257:


v_charon posted...
That one time Steiner won... wonder if there was a big push for someone else.

Lightning maybe?

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andylt
10/21/20 1:19:59 PM
#258:


Glad to hear you're on the mend, FFD.

MartinFF7 posted...

lol at clearly being able to see when people's favs dropped out. It was trending so well for you Martin >_>

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pjbasis
10/21/20 2:09:51 PM
#259:


WOW

Kinda hard to muster up the same excitement I had when I realized Squall was gonna win (Top 3), but LETS FUCKING GO MAN. I don't know why I felt particularly desperate for the win this year, but it just felt possible like it never felt before. Even the last time Squall got 4th, Steiner's win was already telegraphed and usually there was either some other dominating force, or Squall's support predictably petered out. Not that it couldn't have gone awry multiple times. There were multiple points where Squall was near the very bottom of the characters saved, and it was getting through that round that brought on the support necessary to keep going. It was crazy, but that drama made it terribly exciting too!

th3l3fty posted...
CXIV - 2/102 [lost to Zack, 308-270]
CXV - 8/100
CXVI - 9/100
CXVII - 4/100
CXVIII - 8/100
CXIX - 8/100
CXX - 12/100
CXXI - 8/100
CXXII - 1/100

Man I'm almost gonna miss chasing the title! Look at those stats! Marvelous. It's sad to think Squall won't see another top 10 for a good while, and likely never be in contention for a win again...! But I guess that's also fine? But who cares, because today, we are champions.

@SockoressKnight
Special shout out to my main man, second in command. As the only trader of Squall for like the entire half of the contest, it was a great boon when you jumped on board. Two people can take a character to top 20, and since we didn't pick up anyone until it was absolutely necessary, you were absolutely crucial.

@Janus5k
The one we needed to push for Top 10! Kain could not have gone out at a better time! If Kuja weren't already a champion he would probably be the next project for me. Alas!

@swordz9
Gunbladers unite! I mean I never got to vote for Lightning myself because it would be too INAUTHENTIC of me, but I look forward to playing FFXIII someday and maybe hopefully liking her a lot!

@Bane_Of_Despair
I finally got you to go Squall! Finally! You and swordz represented that extra oomph Squall needed to get to Top 5 that never happened because of your annoyingly strong other preferences (Lightning, Vivi, *grumble*). But hey it finally happened woohoo!

@andylt
Dude love the enthusiasm, keep doing you, sorry if I came off too strong with the Tidus hate. I was stressed

@DoomTheGyarados
CHRIIIIIIIIIS. You tantalizingly considered Squall for support for years and then got to hop on the final 5 for a win. Lucky! In some strange way though knowing you were on roster was like some guarantee of victory.

@GenesisSaga@v_charon
You guys are married and such will be treated as a single individual. But this is mostly to Gen because I don't remember charon's involvement in CXIV. Righting wrongs indeed! Sometimes I wonder what kind of weird butterfly effect direction my life would have taken if Squall had won right then and there. Would I have continued to participate? Would Squall have been hardbooted next contest? It felt extra proper to see all these different "factions" come together again after 9 years! Even getting Leon to vote!? Couldn't have asked for a better way to end this.

@ecksgem
One of my most steadfast allies in this entire run. Though not a trader, savers like you are necessary in the first half to keep Squall afloat when I miss rounds or am late to stuff. Along with other people on this list and casual like blackdragon, and comm, and sometimes guys like xuxon, and like dante saved squall before for free but I'm not handing out bounty thank yous here! let's get quistis a deeper run sometime!

uhhhh I think that's it for now

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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/20 2:12:30 PM
#260:


Grats on the win, PJ.

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pjbasis
10/21/20 2:14:10 PM
#261:


I guess I move into SMFFFC retirement now! I'll just push my main as far as I can, protecting his stats, and then pick a different deep run every year to support. Sounds relaxing.


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Bane_Of_Despair
10/21/20 2:24:19 PM
#262:


Yeaaaaaaaaa! I would have switched to Squall sooner but I was curious how far we could get Dunkmaster and then I figured Red needed more help plus try to make up for last year. Glad I could help!

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Janus5k
10/21/20 2:25:21 PM
#263:


Wait hold on did Squall just pass Kuja in the STATS

I think I've been had

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Janus5k
10/21/20 2:26:19 PM
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But nah, seriously I'm glad he got a win, for you and everyone else who'd been pushing him. Was fun to help out with.

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Quitbanningme
10/21/20 2:31:02 PM
#266:


Is this the least divisive Champion ever?
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andylt
10/21/20 2:31:27 PM
#267:


Congrats pj! I would've jumped to him sooner but I was all contested out after my main left and didn't feel like jumping into another serious saving relationship. But he was my #2 in the top 30 and I like to think I helped a little towards the end by saving+trading+killing Kefka.

Enjoy SMFFFC retirement! And hopefully the FF8 curse is now forever broken.

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MartinFF7
10/21/20 2:33:28 PM
#268:


Super happy for you pj!!! No retirement though.



I had always hoped for a Squall win (he was my #4 behind Tifa, Aerith and Barret), and I like when a long-suffering character with past close calls finally gets their win. Lightning last year, Squall this year and - though I wasn't around for it - Cloud in XIX all fit that bill.

Maybe next year really could be Kefka's year...
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Drakeryn
10/21/20 2:34:35 PM
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Quitbanningme posted...
Is this the least divisive Champion ever?

Well I'm not a fan, but eh, it happens. Delita #2 and Emet-Selch #12 is better than I expected for both, so good contest overall.
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pjbasis
10/21/20 2:39:07 PM
#270:


Yeah that Kefka elim was pretty pivotal and lucky (for us). But it resulted in @Grimlyn joining the team, maybe my most surprising ally! Opera Omnia ftw. I'll get around to Crystal bearers...after 12 and 13 and maybe trying tactics again

Actually as many point out it could have been Aerith's year. Which reminds me to @Steiner . Unfortunate way to get you on the team but I think thats what you call making lemonade out of lemons!


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LiquidOshawott
10/21/20 2:41:01 PM
#271:


MartinFF7 posted...
Maybe next year really could be Kefka's year...

Unsure about this, just seems like the crowd here just favors the Sony games more.

I could be wrong though

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pjbasis
10/21/20 2:47:38 PM
#272:


Leanansidhe posted...
Prophecy fulfilled

augh no more top 10 comic appearances nooooo

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LiquidOshawott
10/21/20 2:49:08 PM
#273:


Then again maybe it pulls a VIII and becomes the cool game to like again since everyone seethes it

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th3l3fty
10/21/20 2:49:52 PM
#274:


Janus5k posted...
Wait hold on did Squall just pass Kuja in the STATS

I think I've been had

you have, in fact, been BAMBOOZLED
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mnkboy907
10/21/20 2:51:25 PM
#275:


LiquidOshawott posted...
Unsure about this, just seems like the crowd here just favors the Sony games more.

I could be wrong though

I'm definitely feeling defeated as far VI's chances go. Just doesn't seem like there are enough people that care at this point. I mean the game hasn't won in 15 contests now, and the times I've tried pointing this out have just been met with total apathy (or with jokes like saying let's keep it that way). I guess us VI people just aren't charismatic enough?

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LiquidOshawott
10/21/20 2:53:05 PM
#276:


Sounds like you need a VI in charge.

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captaincanadian
10/21/20 2:57:27 PM
#278:


we just need a cyan push imo
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Steiner
10/21/20 3:00:06 PM
#279:


pjbasis posted...
Which reminds me to @Steiner . Unfortunate way to get you on the team but I think thats what you call making lemonade out of lemons!

you know i'm always good for it once whatever else i'm doing that year is done!

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Steiner
10/21/20 3:01:55 PM
#280:


wow i only just noticed i was relegated to a second post

...whatever

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mnkboy907
10/21/20 3:02:21 PM
#281:


LiquidOshawott posted...
Sounds like you need a VI in charge.

One would have to be literally very insane to do something like that.

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pjbasis
10/21/20 3:03:16 PM
#282:


Steiner posted...
wow i only just noticed i was relegated to a second post

...whatever


I probably forgot someone entirely!

mnkboy907 posted...
I mean the game hasn't won in 15 contests now,

hey now this would be ff8's first win if it wasn't for Zell! Which still seems like a fluke to me!

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Leonhart4
10/21/20 3:04:35 PM
#283:


Man I remember the days when I got blamed for Squall losing support because I couldn't rein in pjbasis

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pjbasis
10/21/20 3:05:41 PM
#284:


We've matured a lot since then and realized I actually was always hilarious and charming.

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Steiner
10/21/20 3:07:00 PM
#285:


Leonhart4 posted...
Man I remember the days when I got blamed for Squall losing support because I couldn't rein in pjbasis

who knew it was actually just you all along

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Leonhart4
10/21/20 3:08:58 PM
#286:


Steiner posted...
who knew it was actually just you all along

I left for a reason...!

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Maniac64
10/21/20 3:34:42 PM
#287:


Mobilezoid posted...
Where are all the other YRP peeps, we need to get a buzz going for next year before people commit to Tidus or Ramzan runs
I'm still 100% in!

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GenesisSaga
10/21/20 3:35:54 PM
#288:


Leonhart4 posted...
Man I remember the days when I got blamed for Squall losing support because I couldn't rein in pjbasis

pjbasis posted...
We've matured a lot since then and realized I actually was always hilarious and charming.

It's definitely not that
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SockoressKnight
10/21/20 3:48:34 PM
#289:


I'm so happy that my favorite Final Fantasy character won the contest
pjbasis posted...
I probably forgot someone entirely!
Literally says this, then, in the same post, quotes mnk, who probably has the second most squall saves this contest and even traded for him in the top 10 after Kefka died. Thank you @mnkboy907 for the late game support and for being a great hour 1 trade partner for the vast majority of the contest.


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pjbasis
10/21/20 4:51:13 PM
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pjbasis
10/21/20 4:52:27 PM
#291:


Oh uh and I guess I'm neutral of Bravely Default, and I prefer official updated localized names.

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LeonhartFour
10/21/20 5:00:55 PM
#292:


WotL names for FFT characters are lame

bring back X-Death

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mnkboy907
10/21/20 5:23:16 PM
#293:


pjbasis posted...
Sorry mnk! I knew there was at least one.

Oh, that's okay, haha. I don't think I can really claim much credit when I was just saving him for a trade for much of it. Thanks though.

But yeah thanks Socko, I appreciated those late round Locke saves those few times you were able to. He might've gone out even sooner if not for those.

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th3l3fty
10/21/20 5:30:39 PM
#294:


LeonhartFour posted...
WotL names for FFT characters are lame

bring back X-Death

plenty of them are better, including Argath by itself

but Argath Thaldalfus is just so bad as a whole
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LeonhartFour
10/21/20 5:31:32 PM
#295:


ARGATH is only good as a joke name to the point that I can't even post it outside of all caps like REVENGEANCE

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pjbasis
10/21/20 5:34:43 PM
#296:


So uh what does Squall need to place to not drop in placements next year.

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LeonhartFour
10/21/20 5:40:10 PM
#297:


pjbasis posted...
So uh what does Squall need to place to not drop in placements next year.

22nd for overall and 5th for new (basically just look at their stats and whatever number it needs to add up to 100 is what place they'd have to finish not to drop)

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andylt
10/21/20 5:41:11 PM
#298:


You could let Squall get booted and never have to worry about his placement again, weren't people saying that's what Lightning should've done?

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LeonhartFour
10/21/20 5:41:33 PM
#299:


andylt posted...
You could let Squall get booted and never have to worry about his placement again, weren't people saying that's what Lightning should've done?

gross

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th3l3fty
10/21/20 5:42:33 PM
#300:


Squall has the prestige of being in the Every Contest Club

can't throw that away so easily!
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LiquidOshawott
10/21/20 5:47:10 PM
#301:


Who are ECCs and Top ten stats peeps without titles

Seph, Rikku, Terra, Yuffie, and Locke for the former I think, and the latter is... Red Mage and Edea for sure, then...

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