Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Final Results and Discussion

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And the winner of Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII is...

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Squall Leonhart, defeating Delita Hyral by a final tally of 384-290. The match was close early, but ultimately Squall had too much support for his outmatched opponent to overcome, pulling away for a comfortable victory that was never really in doubt.

FINAL STANDINGS
1. Squall Leonhart
2. Delita Hyral
3. Garnet "Dagger" Til Alexandros XVII
4. Tifa Lockhart
5. Seymour Guado
6. Barret Wallace
7. Cecil Harvey
8. Kefka Palazzo
9. Edea Lee
10. Red XIII
11. Yuffie Kisaragi
12. Emet-Selch
13. Tidus
14. Aerith Gainsborough (L)
15. Celes Chere
16. Dark Nation
17. Leblanc
18. Judgemaster Cid Randell
19. Kain Highwind
20. Locke Cole
21. Gilgamesh
22. Cait Sith
23. Oerba Dia Vanille
24. Beatrix
25. Y'shtola Rhul
26. Ba'Gamnan
27. Minwu
28. Jessie Rasberry
29. Zidane Tribal
30. Agns Oblige
31. Ardyn Izunia
32. Lightning
33. Ramza Beoulve
34. Layle
35. Vivi Ornitier
36. Argath Thadalfus
37. Lulu (L)
38. Penelo
39. Kuja
40. Cid Pollendina
41. Cloud Strife
42. Cissnei
43. Tiz Arrior
44. Genesis Rhapsodos
45. Freya Crescent
46. Estinien Wyrmblood
47. Cid Highwind
48. Eiko Carol
49. Rydia of Mist
50. Vayne Carudas Solidor
51. Basch fon Ronsenburg
52. Red Mage
53. Auron
54. Ashelia "Ashe" B'nargin Dalmasca
55. Galuf Halm Baldesion
56. Wiegraf Folles
57. Edgar Roni Figaro
58. Leon
59. Quistis Trepe
60. Sabin Rene Figaro
61. Garland
62. Yunalesca
63. Faris Scherwiz
64. Zenos yae Galvus
65. Zell Dincht
66. Paine
67. Jecht
68. Rikku
69. Sazh Katzroy
70. Braska
71. Oerba Yun Fang
72. Agrias Oaks
73. Setzer Gabbiani
74. Rufus Shinra
75. Relm Arrowny
76. Seifer Almasy
77. Gaius van Baelsar
78. Larsa Ferrinas Solidor
79. Terra Branford
80. Sephiroth
81. Reno
82. Laguna Loire
83. Edward Chris von Muir
84. Vincent Valentine
85. Cidolfus Orlandeau
86. Ultros
87. Lenne
88. Exdeath
89. Dr. Cid
90. Quina Quen
91. Goffard Gaffgarion
92. Elena
93. X-ATM092
94. Zack Fair
95. Gau
96. Adelbert Steiner
97. Mustadio Bunansa
98. Serah Farron
99. Kiros Seagill
100. Hildibrand Manderville
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this contest has lost all credibility

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Damn, almost 100 votes.

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So before we get into final stats and whatnot, I promised we'd have some discussions post-contest, so... have at it.

1. Do you believe Bravely characters should be permitted in the contest? And if not, should they be removed from next contest's roster?
2. Should character names be standardized to their current official names, or should the preferred names be used?
3. Any other questions / comments / suggestions?
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Squall still sucks

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darn

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oh ya go my Squall

congrats pj and everyone else, Squall's always been a secondary main for me after Vivi/Auron/Lulu so this is really nice to see

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Mb37ntPEA

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th3l3fty posted...

So before we get into final stats and whatnot, I promised we'd have some discussions post-contest, so... have at it.

1. Do you believe Bravely characters be permitted in the contest? And if not, should they be removed from next contest's roster?
2. Should character names be standardized to their current official names, or should the preferred names be used?
3. Any other questions / comments / suggestions?

1. No, and yes
2. Current and official names

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th3l3fty posted...

So before we get into final stats and whatnot, I promised we'd have some discussions post-contest, so... have at it.

1. Do you believe Bravely characters be permitted in the contest? And if not, should they be removed from next contest's roster?
2. Should character names be standardized to their current official names, or should the preferred names be used?
3. Any other questions / comments / suggestions?

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

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th3l3fty posted...

1. Do you believe Bravely characters be permitted in the contest? And if not, should they be removed from next contest's roster?
2. Should character names be standardized to their current official names, or should the preferred names be used?
3. Any other questions / comments / suggestions?

1. no
2. no, original localization names are absolutely fine
3. why does carson wentz Stink?

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At least he's stronger than Luigi

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http://aerispies.com/savemy/saves.php?contest=SMFFFC&run=22&round=99

now do i get around to those rounds 51-98....

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th3l3fty posted...

3. Any other questions / comments / suggestions?

I am glad we didn't have double rounds, please continue with this

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anyway, if we're to have an actual open discussion about "what is and isn't final fantasy" then bravely isnt FF, and nor is rebranded SaGa stuff

so I guess Dad should be banned too................sorry man

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th3l3fty posted...

1. Do you believe Bravely characters be permitted in the contest? And if not, should they be removed from next contest's roster?
2. Should character names be standardized to their current official names, or should the preferred names be used?
3. Any other questions / comments / suggestions?

1. No, Yes
2. don't care
3. more double rounds

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1. No, remove from contest
2. Indifferent
3. Designated round start times and/or start windows, limit on lateness for round starts to respect Europeans, planned & communicated days off ahead of time, no doubles

Good job Squall. I supported him with a few third saves so I'm claiming full credit for this victory.

Now two characters from my top ten have won, #1 Lightning and #10 Squall. Next year is YRP, maybe #2 Yuna will continue the tradition?!?!

Anyway it was a fun contest. Thanks for hosting lefty, thanks for participating everyone

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big thank you to very insane
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It's certainly harder to argue for Bravely characters now that Bravely Default II is a thing and it's really truly 100% officially its own standalone series now. But I still like them... :(

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th3l3fty posted...

1. Do you believe Bravely characters be permitted in the contest?

yes they be
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Also I probably wouldn't have let BD in to begin with but now that they're here and entrenched in the stats I think they should be allowed to stick around until they're booted of their own accord

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Historical finals numbers for some perspective:

Winners by the percentage they got in the final (Basically blowout indicator):

CXII Zidane - 70.04%
CX Zell - 64.31%
CVI Edgar - 63.83%
CXXI Lightning - 60.93%
CVII Kuja - 57.97%
CXVII Steiner - 57.92%
CXXII Squall - 56.97%
CIX Auron - 56.22%
CIV Vivi - 56.11%
CXIII Marche - 55.84%
CXX Fang - 55.71%
CXV Rydia - 55.08%
CI Cecil - 53.59%
CXIV Zack - 53.29%
CXIX Cloud - 52.85%
CIII Celes - 52.12%
CII Lulu - 51.71%
CV Reno - 51.33%
CVIII Balthier - 51.06%
CXVIII Vivi - 50.99%
CXVI Tidus - 50.50%
CXI Gilgamesh - 50.44%

Votes per character in a final:

Steiner (CXVII) - 468
Cloud (CXIX) - 408
Marche (CXIII) - 397
Rydia (CXV) - 385
Squall (CXXII) - 384
Laguna (CXIX) - 364
Vivi (CXVIII) - 359
Tidus (CXVI) - 357
Lightning (CXXI) - 354
Kefka (CXVI) - 350
Locke (CXVIII) - 345
Lightning (CXVII) - 340
Zidane (CXII) - 332
Lightning (CXIII) - 314
Cloud (CXV) - 314
Fang (CXX) - 312
Zack (CXIV) - 308
Delita (CXXII) - 290
Gilgamesh (CXI) - 286
Vivi (CXI) - 281
Squall (CXIV) - 270
Balthier (CVIII) - 265
Zidane (CVIII) - 254
Kuja (CVII) - 251
Cid Pollendina (CXX) - 248
Edward Chris von Muir (CXXI) - 227
Zell (CX) - 209
Auron (CIX) - 208
Lulu (CII) - 197
Auron (CII) - 184
Terra (CVII) - 182
Cecil (CI) - 179
Vivi (CIV) - 179
Celes (CIII) - 170
Sabin (CIX) - 162
Kuja (CIII) - 156
Zidane (CI) - 155
Reno (CV) - 154
Kuja (CV) - 146
Ashe (CXII) - 142
Rydia (CIV) - 140
Edgar (CVI) - 120
Yuffie (CX) - 116
Tifa (CVI) - 66

Total votes in a final:

Steiner vs. Lightning (CXVII) - 808
Cloud vs. Laguna (CXIX) - 772
Marche vs. Lightning (CXIII) - 711
Tidus vs. Kefka (CXVI) - 707
Vivi vs. Locke (CXVIII) - 704
Rydia vs. Cloud (CXV) - 699
Squall vs. Delita (CXXII) - 674
Lightning vs. Edward (CXXI) - 581
Zack vs. Squall (CXIV) - 578
Gilgamesh vs. Vivi (CXI) - 567
Fang vs. Cid Pollendina (CXX) - 560
Balthier vs. Zidane (CVIII) - 519
Zidane vs. Ashe (CXII) - 474
Kuja vs. Terra (CVII) - 433
Lulu vs. Auron (CII) - 381
Auron vs. Sabin (CIX) - 370
Cecil vs. Zidane (CI) - 334
Celes vs. Kuja (CIII) - 326
Zell vs. Yuffie (CX) - 325
Vivi vs. Rydia (CIV) - 319
Reno vs. Kuja (CV) - 300
Edgar vs. Tifa (CVI) - 186
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1. Absolutely no one still wants Bravely around, and if I had missed a second round two years ago and Edea had also been booted we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now. Even as a Bravely fan, I fully admit it isn't actually FF, so I support removing Bravely from future contests and having 3 extra nomination spots next year.
2. I don't really care. I support the official names, but Squenix is so inconsistent that I don't want to end up having to save "Orthros" in a couple years. Isn't this question basically just about Tactics anyway?
3. Didn't lefty mention that he was going to do something about the Dunkmaster saves, or am I imagining that?

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Spite voting best voting IMO.

Congrats to the Squall stans! Very solid winner.

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Lefty was this XXI, XII or XXII
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FBike1 posted...

I don't really care. I support the official names, but Squenix is so inconsistent that I don't want to end up having to save "Orthros" in a couple years. Isn't this question basically just about Tactics anyway?

I assumed it was more about Dunkmaster Cid.

But re-reading it I guess that's maybe wrong.

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Id say no Bravely characters but Im not too bothered about it either way.

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Congratulations @LeonhartFour
Time to come back

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1. Do you believe Bravely characters should be permitted in the contest? And if not, should they be removed from next contest's roster?

Yes, precedent has been set

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Not bottom 5, whoo!

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FFT is the primary concern name-wise, yes, but there's also all of V, Dr. Cid, and even Dark Nation to consider.
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PrinceKaro posted...

Yes, precedent has been set

Precedent has also been set that characters previously allowed can be removed. Well, not necessarily forcibly I guess.

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Nanis23 posted...

I am glad we didn't have double rounds, please continue with this

This.

1. Probably not, and if the decision is no Edea needs to go.

2. Dont care.

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booooring

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Is there a particular reason we're considering removing BD now, by the way? Why not three years ago when lefty took over or whenever. Just feels random

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1. No. Yes remove them
2. Don't care
3. 24 hours of rounds, more random hours 4am etc

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Anyone want to try to court my support next year before I think on it for a few days? Any neat projects?

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YRP will be the neatest project

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I hear all the cool kids are trying to get Jessie in the top 20.

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Mobilezoid posted...

Is there a particular reason we're considering removing BD now, by the way? Why not three years ago when lefty took over or whenever. Just feels random

because sentiment has changed and lefty didn't wanna just impose his will on the contest because hes fucking lefty

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Anyone want to try to court my support next year before I think on it for a few days? Any neat projects?

yeah see u next top 10 have a nice year

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2. Delita Hyral

CIV - 28/55
CV - 33/60
CVI - 40/65
CVII - 41/70
CVIII - 55/75
CIX - 63/75
CX - 40/75
CXI - 13/75
CXII - 50/75
CXIII - 4/75
CXIV - 5/102
CXV - 79/100 (Booted)
CXVII - 60/100
CXVIII - 15/100
CXIX - 88/100 (Booted)
CXXI - 23/100
CXXII - 2/100

overall STATS: 54.32% / up 2.79% - 42nd/127 (up 5 spots)
newSTATS: 62.15% / up 6.14% - 29th/106 (up 12 spots)

1. Squall Leonhart

CI - 13/40
CII - 4/45
CIII - 15/50
CIV - 34/55
CV - 26/60
CVI - 19/65
CVII - 18/70
CVIII - 46/75
CIX - 33/75
CX - 11/75
CXI - 40/75
CXII - 23/75
CXIII - 21/75
CXIV - 2/102 [lost to Zack, 308-270]
CXV - 8/100
CXVI - 9/100
CXVII - 4/100
CXVIII - 8/100
CXIX - 8/100
CXX - 12/100
CXXI - 8/100
CXXII - 1/100

overall STATS: 77.58% / up 1.07% - 5th/127 (up 3 spots)
newSTATS: 94.34% / up 0.71% - 1st/106 (no movement)
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also

1. dont care
2. dont care
3. cancel smfffc forever

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Mobilezoid posted...

Is there a particular reason we're considering removing BD now, by the way? Why not three years ago when lefty took over or whenever. Just feels random

overwhelming demand

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th3l3fty posted...

newSTATS: 94.34% / up 0.71% - 1st/106 (no movement)

@_@
I thought it was Lightning

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She's #1 overall

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Lightning's over 90% but she can't match up to those numbers

like

Squall's last eight contests grade out better than Kuja's best run of eight, which I don't think can be said for any other such set of consecutive results
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Steiner posted...

overwhelming demand

The demand was always there though

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