Poll of the Day > Things white people need to let go.

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KnoxKorner
07/13/20 1:25:19 AM
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Yep

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Lil69Leo
07/13/20 1:26:59 AM
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Fox new and their racist propaganda.
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ReggieTheReckless
07/13/20 1:35:15 AM
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the fuck is that shit?
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FatalAccident
07/13/20 2:37:22 AM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
the fuck is that shit?


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FatalAccident
07/13/20 2:38:16 AM
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Or maybe theyre trying to subvert the movement by posting nonsensical sensationalised bs like this to put people off having the real conversation? Who knows

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Zeus
07/13/20 2:47:06 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
Or maybe theyre trying to subvert the movement by posting nonsensical sensationalised bs like this to put people off having the real conversation? Who knows

You know real people have requested that or similar, though. In the case of jobs and promotions, that's something most advocates *very* specifically ask for (and those outcomes are basically what affirmative action / EoE is built on)


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Mead
07/13/20 2:52:45 AM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
the fuck is that shit?

conservative media gaslighting

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ParanoidObsessive
07/13/20 2:54:30 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
Or maybe theyre trying to subvert the movement by posting nonsensical sensationalised bs like this to put people off having the real conversation? Who knows

You mean the way that pretty much all media does in the modern age, regardless of political leanings, mainly because "crazy" and "outrage" get better ratings?

Think of some of the most ridiculous clickbait article titles you've seen on the Internet. That's basically what the 24-hour news cycle and competing for-profit news channels have turned "the news" into in general, because the drive to get eyes on your product outweighs anything even remotely resembling "the truth".

Any time a given movement or group begins to push an ideological agenda, regardless of what that agenda is, or which "side" it's on, broadcast news will almost always present things in a way that encourages the viewer to simultaneously be angry about but also somewhat mocking of the group in question. Because humans are terrible and that's exactly the sort of narrative that pulls ratings.
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zebatov
07/13/20 3:41:25 AM
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What is accepting some jobs & promotions? Are they saying that they need to take entry-level positions? Who wouldnt take a promotion?

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BUMPED2002
07/13/20 3:47:27 AM
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Let's be honest here, the only reason the America and the European Union enjoy wealth today all started hundreds of years of ago beginning with one Christopher Columbus when he stumbled upon what is today Haiti.

Europeans began settling (stealing other people's land) that would soon over time be the backbone of enormous wealth and empires.

It starts with tobacco plantations and then it just snowballed from there. France took over Haiti and began desecrating the land and subjugating the people to cultivate sugar to satisfy European palate.

(((((((((( Haiti remains the poorest country in the Americas and the rest of the poorest countries in the world have been extracted and leveraged to appease the European Union region which remains one of the wealthiest in the world. This isnt because of some innate curse on Haiti. Its because its peoples, their labor, their lands, and their resources have long been embezzled without reparation.)))))))))

The insidious nature of the colonization of the Americas, which started in Haiti, not only terrorized the people who lived there at the time; it also created a system that kept (((((((( indigenous peoples in slavery or perpetual poverty,)))))))) while Europe basked in wealth.

America was founded on and built by slave labor and land theft and no one can argue that. Even today in America we can still see the brutality of those slave plantations in our current capitalistic system which preys upon people of color who work for minimal pay while doing laborious manual intensive labor. The blueprint for that was laid out on those slave plantations many moons ago.


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Lokarin
07/13/20 6:46:41 AM
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umm... all people should have guaranteed safety at all times. What kinda cuck is like 'less ssafety pl0x;

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Clench281
07/13/20 7:24:28 AM
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zebatov posted...
What is accepting some jobs & promotions? Are they saying that they need to take entry-level positions? Who wouldnt take a promotion?

I think the point being made is that minorities are disproportionally turned down for jobs or promotions. In a fully equitable society, white people would be less likely to receive these things (compared to now).

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Lokarin
07/13/20 7:27:02 AM
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Clench281 posted...
I think the point being made is that minorities are disproportionally turned down for jobs or promotions.

This is very bad and wrong, even... badong. I'll even assume they're proportionately qualified.

So what's the fair solution? promote everyone, or nerf white

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TheWitchMorgana
07/13/20 7:27:08 AM
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Lokarin posted...
umm... all people should have guaranteed safety at all times. What kinda cuck is like 'less ssafety pl0x;

well you see, there's only a finite number of safeties, so if we get the police to stop brutalizing black and indigneous people then whites won't have any safeties left

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Clench281
07/13/20 7:29:17 AM
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Lokarin posted...
This is very bad and wrong, even... badong. I'll even assume they're proportionately qualified.

So what's the fair solution? promote everyone, or nerf white

Realistically the solution is to eliminate biases of those making hiring decisions. And that's no small task.

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SunWuKung420
07/13/20 7:33:00 AM
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Can we at least agree that the idea of white supremacy is completely flawed and anyone harboring such ideals needs to stop?

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BUMPED2002
07/13/20 11:33:44 AM
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Lil69Leo posted...
Fox new and their racist propaganda.
Fox News was the brainchild of the late Roger Ailes, a very vile and paranoid individual to say the least. He built Fox on fear mongering, hate and racism.

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Llamachama
07/13/20 11:41:41 AM
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lol'd

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Dreamgamer_lgbt
07/13/20 12:16:21 PM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
Let's be honest here, the only reason the America and the European Union enjoy wealth today all started hundreds of years of ago beginning with one Christopher Columbus when he stumbled upon what is today Haiti.

Europeans began settling (stealing other people's land) that would soon over time be the backbone of enormous wealth and empires.

It starts with tobacco plantations and then it just snowballed from there. France took over Haiti and began desecrating the land and subjugating the people to cultivate sugar to satisfy European palate.

(((((((((( Haiti remains the poorest country in the Americas and the rest of the poorest countries in the world have been extracted and leveraged to appease the European Union region which remains one of the wealthiest in the world. This isnt because of some innate curse on Haiti. Its because its peoples, their labor, their lands, and their resources have long been embezzled without reparation.)))))))))

The insidious nature of the colonization of the Americas, which started in Haiti, not only terrorized the people who lived there at the time; it also created a system that kept (((((((( indigenous peoples in slavery or perpetual poverty,)))))))) while Europe basked in wealth.

America was founded on and built by slave labor and land theft and no one can argue that. Even today in America we can still see the brutality of those slave plantations in our current capitalistic system which preys upon people of color who work for minimal pay while doing laborious manual intensive labor. The blueprint for that was laid out on those slave plantations many moons ago.

I wouldn't sink the whole Europe into this tho.

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OhhhJa
07/13/20 12:23:20 PM
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Clench281 posted...
I think the point being made is that minorities are disproportionally turned down for jobs or promotions. In a fully equitable society, white people would be less likely to receive these things (compared to now).
Lol it doesn't surprise me that some sjw would try and actually explain how these bullet points aren't hilariously stupid. Nevermind that this probably isn't the viewpoint of most involved in the protests and is actually just fox news propaganda. The fact that there are people like you would try to justify this just shows there are some really psychotic assholes on the other side of the aisle from me lol
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Firewerx
07/13/20 12:33:46 PM
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I'd also point out that few white Europeans enjoyed a share of the colossal fortunes made by traders, planters and speculators in the heyday of Europe's colonial adventures. In fact, industrialists made much of their private wealth off the backs of sweated "free" labour -- drones working for long hours in appalling conditions in factories for very little money, and condemned to ill health and an early death (very early for shockingly high numbers of infants) in overcrowded urban slums. Most of us weren't overlords revelling in ill-gotten wealth.

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HornedLion
07/13/20 12:41:16 PM
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Lokarin posted...
So what's the fair solution? promote everyone, or nerf white

Oh if we elect Bungie they will definitely see to it that this happens. Not saying Bungie is anti-white but because they never miss an opportunity to nerf something.

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dedbus
07/13/20 1:03:50 PM
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I'm just glad white people are finally listening and able to take good notes.
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Zacek
07/13/20 1:52:45 PM
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Believe America is a country and not a Continent.

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Sonicplys
07/13/20 2:32:00 PM
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White people are the new minority

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OhhhJa
07/13/20 2:35:53 PM
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White people are the new minority
Honestly, it probably won't be long before leftists are saying we need to sit in the back of the bus
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AC_Dragonfire
07/13/20 2:36:19 PM
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Lokarin
07/13/20 2:42:11 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Honestly, it probably won't be long before leftists are saying we need to sit in the back of the bus

I'm white and I wanted to sit in the back of the bus but the passengers said that because there's systemic white supremacy I am required to sit in the front because that's my privilege

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BeerOnTap
07/13/20 2:59:42 PM
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This is Fox simply reporting on a discovery that a guy named Christopher F Rufo made about the City Of Seattles training (shaming session) for their white employees. All of that stuff is indeed in the training that, btw, taxpayers paid for.

The foaming at the mouth, bounce around the rubber room insane leftists in here who have the audacity to call simply reporting on such blatant craziness sensationalism is beyond ironic and the gassiest of gaslights.

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ryanell666
07/13/20 3:01:53 PM
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Well,....they can try to make me comply...."try"....
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Aculo
07/13/20 3:31:27 PM
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lou dobbs, of course. this shit is his bread and butter, ok?

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M2TheZ
07/13/20 3:48:04 PM
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How about no?
Spouting this bs and then wondering why Trump was re-elected, SJWs are the dumbest and most self defeating people in the world, thanks for re-electing the god emperor.

Also Pence 2024.

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Aculo
07/13/20 4:03:59 PM
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M2TheZ posted...
How about no?
Spouting this bs and then wondering why Trump was re-elected, SJWs are the dumbest and most self defeating people in the world, thanks for re-electing the god emperor.

Also Pence 2024.
sjw's didn't make that list. lou "fart box" dobbs made that list, ok?

also, pence isn't running in 2024, ok?

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Mead
07/13/20 4:06:00 PM
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M2TheZ posted...
How about no?
Spouting this bs and then wondering why Trump was re-elected, SJWs are the dumbest and most self defeating people in the world, thanks for re-electing the god emperor.

Also Pence 2024.

Imagine actually thinking thats a list made my liberals lmao

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teddy241
07/13/20 4:10:21 PM
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money
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Clench281
07/13/20 4:24:01 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Lol it doesn't surprise me that some sjw would try and actually explain how these bullet points aren't hilariously stupid. Nevermind that this probably isn't the viewpoint of most involved in the protests and is actually just fox news propaganda. The fact that there are people like you would try to justify this just shows there are some really psychotic assholes on the other side of the aisle from me lol

Facts don't care about your feelings

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OhhhJa
07/13/20 4:30:44 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Facts don't care about your feelings
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SunWuKung420
07/13/20 4:37:10 PM
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That first bullet point is the best. "White people must learn to let go of comfort so others (read: non-whites) can be comfortable."

This is exactly the type of sensationalism that only a white supremacy-led media organization would report on as news.

I personally want everybody to live in comfort while working together to ensure that comfort is available.

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AC_Dragonfire
07/13/20 7:21:58 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I'm white and I wanted to sit in the back of the bus but the passengers said that because there's systemic white supremacy I am required to sit in the front because that's my privilege
Oh goodness.... Here we go.

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wordscansay
07/13/20 7:24:53 PM
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Llamachama posted...
lol'd

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Kungfu Kenobi
07/13/20 7:30:16 PM
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I'd like to see these bullet points in context. The thing about jobs is DEFINITELY out of context. This is on Rufo's twitter, but not in the Fox News screencap: it's missing the point about promotions a person of colour got passed over for going to a less qualified white person. A white person serious about confronting racism can't just go, "I don't like it but whatever, got mine."

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Judgmenl
07/13/20 7:38:32 PM
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I'd love to have a sexual relationship with a non-white person.
I don't get it.

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Gaawa_chan
07/14/20 2:38:53 AM
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One by one.

  1. False, and what does this even mean anyway? Physical comfort, how? I am not discomforted by the presence or uplifting of PoC. Emotional comfort, from what? Not having to do any introspection and self-improvement? Not having to actually worry about problems in the world and therefore be able to sit back and ignore them while they fester like useless dead-weight? If that's what comfort means, then I don't want it; I have no interest in maintaining apathy in the face of potential improvement.
  2. False, and to suggest that uplifting PoC would cause us to lose it is quite telling.
  3. Honestly this is the one that really betrays what all this is about. Doesn't even warrant a proper response; it's just gross. :-/
  4. False. No one's forcing you to do jack shit with your relationships. This is projection from people who want to tell you which adults you can and can't marry, and some of whom want to control whether or not you can divorce, whether or not you can control if/when you have children, etc... where do they get off trying to fearmonger about your personal relationships when they try to insert their ass-backwards bull into people's personal lives at every turn?
  5. I assume that this is referring to non-PoC actors/actresses playing characters of color when actors/actresses of color are often starved for good work. We already have hiring practices that prioritize getting the right gender for a given role so I don't get why this is such a sensationalized issue considering that it seems like most if not all actors/actresses have no problem with this.


So basically every single bullet point is a strawman argument for the purposes of fearmongering that will only sound reasonable to people who, apparently, think that white people should "have control over other people." Which... well, you can't say that Fox doesn't know its audience, lol.

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zebatov
07/15/20 12:24:35 AM
#45:


Clench281 posted...
Realistically the solution is to eliminate biases of those making hiring decisions. And that's no small task.

Or maybe, just maybe, the person getting hired or promoted was actually better-qualified for the job, and no other reasoning went into the decision?

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Clench281
07/15/20 5:17:23 AM
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zebatov posted...
Or maybe, just maybe, the person getting hired or promoted was actually better-qualified for the job, and no other reasoning went into the decision?

Reasoning doesn't have to come into play. It's entirely normal for hiring staff to feel they are making an objective decision based purely on qualifications, but still have unconscious bias at the same time.

If your point is that unconscious bias doesn't exist in the hiring process, well, then you're denying facts

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Krazy_Kirby
07/15/20 7:07:45 AM
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zebatov posted...


Or maybe, just maybe, the person getting hired or promoted was actually better-qualified for the job, and no other reasoning went into the decision?


so maybe the people you were bitching about who got hired in canada were actually better qualified for the job?
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LeetCheet
07/15/20 8:04:04 AM
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If I were an employer I would preferably hire the best person for the job, regardless of their gender or skin colour.

At my place of work, we have a great diversity of people among us. Both locals and foreigners and both men and women.
And where I work you need knowledge, precision and strength.

Strength is obviously something men are naturally better at than women but they make up for it in other areas.
One older woman I work with, you can ask her pretty much anything and she will know the answer and she also has more responsibilities than the rest of us.

And we have quite a few people from other countries here.
It's kinda hard to communicate with some of them sometimes but they're all strong as fuck.
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Lemur_H
07/15/20 9:43:08 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
I'd love to have a sexual relationship with a non-white person.
I don't get it.
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