Poll of the Day > USA must learn to appeal to insecure men's mask concerns

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Clench281
06/27/20 1:38:15 PM
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Adult man children are refusing to wear masks in public because they feel it shows weakness or lack of masculinity

How do we appeal to this insecure population, in order to improve mask adherence?

Gadsden flag printed on masks?

The Punisher?

Darth Vader?

There's money to be made here

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Zeus
06/27/20 1:39:08 PM
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You need to improve the quality of your troll topics. You're not going to get the serious response you want with childish, obvious trolling like that.

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Mead
06/27/20 1:41:07 PM
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how about they dont have to wear a mask as long as theyre sucking a dick

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WhiskeyDisk
06/27/20 1:43:01 PM
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Why stop at surgical masks? Why not mandate muzzles? Gimp masks?

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adjl
06/27/20 1:45:50 PM
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Honestly, all that really needs to happen is for Trump to admit his previous show of machoistic bravado ("The CDC is now recommending that everyone wear a mask, but I'm not going to wear one") was a mistake and to start wearing on at every public appearance. A sizable chunk of the insecure manlings in the country are basically just following him blindly, so if wearing a mask is manly enough for Trump, it'll be manly enough for them. Granted, getting Trump to not only admit to making a mistake, but also voluntarily do something that he feels would damage his image would probably be harder than just about any other solution, so I guess we're stuck looking elsewhere.

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Mead
06/27/20 1:47:57 PM
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adjl posted...
Honestly, all that really needs to happen is for Trump to admit his previous show of machoistic bravado ("The CDC is now recommending that everyone wear a mask, but I'm not going to wear one") was a mistake and to start wearing on at every public appearance. A sizable chunk of the insecure manlings in the country are basically just following him blindly, so if wearing a mask is manly enough for Trump, it'll be manly enough for them. Granted, getting Trump to not only admit to making a mistake, but also voluntarily do something that he feels would damage his image would probably be harder than just about any other solution, so I guess we're stuck looking elsewhere.

he wont because the bronzer he puts on his face everyday will rub off onto the mask making him look silly

thats literally the entire reason he has politicized face coverings, to protect his delicate petty ego

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PK_Spam
06/27/20 1:53:19 PM
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Make masks come bundled with guns

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Muscles
06/27/20 1:57:14 PM
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I thought they just didn't want to wear masks, I haven't heard 1 person claim it had anything to do with masculinity

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adjl
06/27/20 2:00:02 PM
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Muscles posted...
I haven't heard 1 person claim it had anything to do with masculinity

People whose insecurities about their masculinity drive them to do silly things never outright say that they're doing those things because they're insecure about their masculinity. That would only make the insecurity worse. Duh.

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darcandkharg31
06/27/20 2:01:45 PM
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Gillette was right all along, we need to nip this toxicity in the butt.

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OniRonin
06/27/20 2:01:58 PM
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epic masks with iron man or the hulk on them

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Muscles
06/27/20 2:04:57 PM
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I feel like you would hear a lot of people talking trash about "nancys" wearing masks if that was really the thing

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Dikitain
06/27/20 2:09:51 PM
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My mask:

https://tonedeaf.thebrag.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Megadeth-Mask-768x435.jpg


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Muscles
06/27/20 2:13:21 PM
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Dikitain posted...
My mask:

https://tonedeaf.thebrag.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Megadeth-Mask-768x435.jpg
That's probably the coolest mask I've seen

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BlackScythe0
06/27/20 2:29:39 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Adult man children are refusing to wear masks in public because they feel it shows weakness or lack of masculinity

No.

I refuse to wear a mask because I have to wear one all day at work and when I'm off I want to be able to breath.
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blu
06/27/20 2:31:58 PM
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Something more breathable, lower effectiveness a bit to increase comfort of wearing.
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Bugmeat
06/27/20 2:38:13 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I have to wear one all day at work and when I'm off I want to be able to breath.
I have to wear one all day at work too. So I got myself one of those nylon mesh dust/sport masks with the filter liner and exhaust vents. I didn't put the filter liner in. It's just a nylon mesh. It's serves no purpose other than to get people to leave me alone because technically I'm wearing a mask. It's like not wearing one at all. I can breathe easily. It doesn't get hot and damp inside. Hell, when the wind blows I can even feel the breeze across the covered area.


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streamofthesky
06/27/20 2:52:03 PM
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There's PLENTY of dumb fucks among women as well, stop being sexist, TC

Even among just the Karens specifically, there's multiple stories of Karens getting mad at employees for trying to enforce mask-wearing to enter the establishment.
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Cacciato
06/27/20 3:12:52 PM
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Zeus posted...
You need to improve the quality of your troll topics. You're not going to get the serious response you want with childish, obvious trolling like that.
Thats not very nice. You say stupid shit all the time.
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Clench281
06/27/20 3:19:41 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
There's PLENTY of dumb fucks among women as well, stop being sexist, TC

Even among just the Karens specifically, there's multiple stories of Karens getting mad at employees for trying to enforce mask-wearing to enter the establishment.

Doesn't change the fact that it appears women in general are more likely to wear a mask to mitigate risk, whereas men self report feeling less susceptible to the virus, or underestimate the risk, or refusing to wear masks because they're uncool or unmanly.

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streamofthesky
06/27/20 3:23:24 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Doesn't change the fact that it appears women in general are more likely to wear a mask to mitigate risk, whereas men self report feeling less susceptible to the virus, or underestimate the risk, or refusing to wear masks because they're uncool or unmanly.
Source?

Also, not sure about in general, but I remember in South Korea they found men had double the fatality rate of women, and tied it to their higher % of smokers, but the U.S. also has more men that are smokers than women. So yeah....doubt. Massive doubt.
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Zeus
06/27/20 3:24:31 PM
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I guess I stand corrected, given how many people have taken the shittiest of baits. PT Barnum was right.

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Clench281
06/27/20 3:36:09 PM
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Drat, all these researchers referenced here beat me to this weeks ago

https://nypost.com/2020/05/14/men-less-likely-to-wear-face-masks-because-theyre-not-cool-and-a-sign-of-weakness/

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Mead
06/27/20 3:40:51 PM
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Muscles posted...
I feel like you would hear a lot of people talking trash about "nancys" wearing masks if that was really the thing

why do you have the mindset of a angsty high school student about every single subject

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Jen0125
06/27/20 3:41:38 PM
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Does anyone use the phrase "Nancys" for effeminate men anymore?

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Clench281
06/27/20 3:43:00 PM
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I've never heard it widely used. The podcast named Nancy is okay though

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Revelation34
06/27/20 3:43:59 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Adult man children are refusing to wear masks in public because they feel it shows weakness or lack of masculinity


Citation needed.
Jen0125 posted...
Does anyone use the phrase "Nancys" for effeminate men anymore?


Maybe people from Texas.
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Cacciato
06/27/20 3:55:14 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Citation needed
Have you tried, I dunno, reading the topic?
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Revelation34
06/27/20 3:56:00 PM
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Cacciato posted...

Have you tried, I dunno, reading the topic?


So something that doesn't exist.
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adjl
06/27/20 3:58:17 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Citation needed.

Clench281 posted...
https://nypost.com/2020/05/14/men-less-likely-to-wear-face-masks-because-theyre-not-cool-and-a-sign-of-weakness/

Reading is fun!

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FrozenBananas
06/27/20 3:58:18 PM
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I still dont know how wearing a mask shows weakness.

wearing a mask shows that youre caring for the people around you. Wearing a mask has nothing to do with you and will not protect you from anything.

its literally a common curtesy to others around you. Thats it.

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Cacciato
06/27/20 4:00:47 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
So something that doesn't exist.
Pretty sure the topic exists. You posted in it.
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adjl
06/27/20 4:09:07 PM
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FrozenBananas posted...
I still dont know how wearing a mask shows weakness.

Same reason you'll see people mocking those who choose to wear a bike helmet. There are a non-trivial number of people out there who consider precautionary measures to to be a sign of fear, and that "strong" people should accept the risk and tough it out. Never mind that there's really no way to "tough out" a traumatic brain injury, that's the attitude.

FrozenBananas posted...
Wearing a mask has nothing to do with you and will not protect you from anything.

It does offer some protection. You're not going to get a huge benefit from it unless you also use eye protection (tear ducts are a nice, moist, direct line to the nasal passages, after all), and it does more to prevent transmission from an infected person to others than vice versa, but it's still a non-zero benefit.

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SunWuKung420
06/27/20 4:26:36 PM
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I want a Bane mask, voice and all.

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streamofthesky
06/27/20 4:29:15 PM
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adjl posted...
Reading is fun!
So the NY Post is a credible source to cite now?

EDIT: Also the % difference between men and women refusing to wear masks is close to the gender gap in Republican vs. Democrat voting percentages. So it seems to me more likely that it's just a reflection of Trumpers' refusing to wear them because dear leader said so, regardless of gender (there just happen to be more men who are Trump supporters)
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Krazy_Kirby
06/27/20 4:36:26 PM
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I only wear masks where I am forced to. I'm not too afraid to go w/o a mask when I'm not forced to
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adjl
06/27/20 4:49:01 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
So the NY Post is a credible source to cite now?

The paper it links to is.

streamofthesky posted...
Also the % difference between men and women refusing to wear masks is close to the gender gap in Republican vs. Democrat voting percentages.

Are you referring to the 51-48 split the NY Post article mentions? Because that's just the demographic breakdown of the sample population, not the results. That said, reading the actual article, my last stats class happened too long ago for me to readily figure out what the exact numbers are, since they're using regressions in some capacity and not just giving nice, simple percentages. The bar graphs and numbers used certainly make it look like there are significant differences, but I can't quantify just how significant.

streamofthesky posted...
So it seems to me more likely that it's just a reflection of Trumpers' refusing to wear them because dear leader said so, regardless of gender (there just happen to be more men who are Trump supporters)

The sample population used was predominantly left-leaning (50% left, 21% centre, 29% right), so I don't think that explains it.

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Clench281
06/27/20 4:50:16 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
So the NY Post is a credible source to cite now?

EDIT: Also the % difference between men and women refusing to wear masks is close to the gender gap in Republican vs. Democrat voting percentages. So it seems to me more likely that it's just a reflection of Trumpers' refusing to wear them because dear leader said so, regardless of gender (there just happen to be more men who are Trump supporters)

If that were true, then in the full regression model (which includes both sex and political leaning), political leaning should be the only significant variable. Instead, we see both sex and political leaning are highly significant.

It would be interesting to have modeled the interaction between the two, but it's not necessary to conclude that both sex and political leaning were at work here.

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LinkPizza
06/27/20 7:07:00 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
I only wear masks where I am forced to.

Pretty much this... It's really only on base...
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emagdnE
06/27/20 7:21:44 PM
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No, insecure men need to man up and just put on the fucking mask.

Dying to a tiny organism doesn't sound too manly to me, bro. Nor does effectively becoming crippled even if you survive due to permanent lung scarring + fluid build-up.
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Smiffwilm
06/27/20 7:30:17 PM
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Why can't they just pretend they're Sub-Zero/Scorpion......

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streamofthesky
06/29/20 1:40:31 PM
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America, America! This is you!

https://youtu.be/433b5RJ9BME

Public hearing in Flori-duh (of course) on mandating indoor mask wearing.

Look at all those insecure men making idiots out of themselves!
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LinkPizza
06/29/20 2:34:10 PM
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I think I saw this on reddit...
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dedbus
06/29/20 3:52:30 PM
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I think we should stop the shaming. It was wrong when we were asking females to cover up more at beaches and waterparks, I don't know why we are regressing on now. Well for some of you I know..
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