Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 233: Kashmir Outside, How 'Bout That?

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Louis Gohmert has long been the House's biggest dumbass

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Louis Gohmert looks like someone I would call a gohmert without knowing full well that isn't a real word.
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Gohmert represents a chunk of East Texas

Which is exactly what you'd expect of a district with zero major/notable cities.

Dancedreamer posted...

Bernie to Biden makes NO sense to me. If name recognition is THAT important, I'd think you'd have supported Hillary in the first place. Since everyone knew her name.

Biden has a lot of progressive cred purely from the association with Obama. Needless to say he doesn't deserve it (Obama wasn't even especially progressive!). I have no doubt that number will drop the more Biden's dirty laundry is aired.

But the real thing that data shows is just how much the wide field is helping Biden in the early stages.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/08/texas-congressman-says-el-paso-shooter-charged-hate-crime-pastors-will-next/

Representative Louis Gohmert (R-TX) was interviewed on local news station KETK, where the host bemoaned how mass shootings were being politicized.

Gohmert said that he was particularly distraught that people were calling for the El Paso shooter to face hate crimes charges, even though he allegedly killed at least 22 people at a Walmart because he hated Hispanic people.

So all of this screaming and yelling we need to punish him for hate crimes, you know, thats just going to be something used to lock up preachers someday, he said.

Calling a killing spree targeted at Hispanics a hate crime is a slippery slope to...locking up people for personally being against gay marriage.

my neck hurts from the involuntary tilt my head took upon finishing that quote
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I think Louis Gohmert was the representative who gave an impassioned speech about how our forefathers came to America for FREEDOM and therefore people should support the Republican healthcare bill.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27355790/trump-kap-get-job-good-enough
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Grimlyn posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/08/texas-congressman-says-el-paso-shooter-charged-hate-crime-pastors-will-next/

Representative Louis Gohmert (R-TX) was interviewed on local news station KETK, where the host bemoaned how mass shootings were being politicized.

Gohmert said that he was particularly distraught that people were calling for the El Paso shooter to face hate crimes charges, even though he allegedly killed at least 22 people at a Walmart because he hated Hispanic people.

So all of this screaming and yelling we need to punish him for hate crimes, you know, thats just going to be something used to lock up preachers someday, he said.

Calling a killing spree targeted at Hispanics a hate crime is a slippery slope to...locking up people for personally being against gay marriage.

my neck hurts from the involuntary tilt my head took upon finishing that quote

Lol that dude is an idiot. Haha
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/09/us/modesto-city-council-straight-pride-parade-trnd/index.html

He singled out Councilmember Kristi Ah You, accusing her of "pulling the race card" and allegedly inflaming tensions by "attacking us as racists."
Then he appeared to make a slip of the tongue.
"We haven't done anything," he said. "We're a totally peaceful, racist group."

Biden-level gaffe
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik cant read.

Anyway:

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/huh-in-iowa-speech-biden-confusingly-says-americans-choose-truth-over-facts/

After ending the speech, Biden took questions from the audience, the first asking who was his favorite historical figure who was not a president of the United States.

I think my favorite historical figure there is a couple of philosophers who I find understood human nature better than most people, Biden said. But in terms of political figures, maybe my favorite political figure, it is a tough call, I would have to say it is those people who gave America hope. Made them believe in who we are. You said not a president. I would have to start off with Jefferson, even though he didnt live up to it. He is the guy that wrote that incredible document.

This guy is losing it.

I thought for sure this was a Trump quote when I saw it

It reads exactly like one!
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He could just be talking about American author T. Jefferson Parker and his incredible document California Girl for all we know guys.
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Also man "favorite non-president historical figure" is such an easy layup question, how do you fuck it up? Just say Harriet Tubman. That will piss off literally no one except for the literal KKK. It's such an easy answer, how did you fuck it up in so many ways

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27356491/sources-ab-says-no-football-old-helmet

You know, when I read stories like this, or any other similar ones regarding "outspoken" athletes or whatever, the first thing that occurs to me is that, like, if I made even 1/10th as much money as these guys do, I'd be so much more crazy and outspoken than this. I'd be like, Alex Jones level of ranting on social media pretty much constantly.

It's absolutely weird to me that so many millionaires are so generally restrained. WTF are they scared of?
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Suprak the Stud posted...

He could just be talking about American author T. Jefferson Parker and his incredible document California Girl for all we know guys.

I imagine he specifically meant pre-Presidency Jefferson
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SmartMuffin posted...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27356491/sources-ab-says-no-football-old-helmet

You know, when I read stories like this, or any other similar ones regarding "outspoken" athletes or whatever, the first thing that occurs to me is that, like, if I made even 1/10th as much money as these guys do, I'd be so much more crazy and outspoken than this. I'd be like, Alex Jones level of ranting on social media pretty much constantly.

It's absolutely weird to me that so many millionaires are so generally restrained. WTF are they scared of?

Lots of people just dont want that level of attention.
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It is weird that he was asked his favorite non-president American historical figure and he said "this guy who was president but before he was president". Like that's just plain cheating then.

So clearly he is talking about T. Jefferson Parker and his incredible document California Girl, available now on Amazon for only $10.10 as a hardcover. An incredible price for an incredible document!
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/09/us/modesto-city-council-straight-pride-parade-trnd/index.html

He singled out Councilmember Kristi Ah You, accusing her of "pulling the race card" and allegedly inflaming tensions by "attacking us as racists."
Then he appeared to make a slip of the tongue.
"We haven't done anything," he said. "We're a totally peaceful, racist group."

Biden-level gaffe

TheRock1525 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg1Iklfu6No" data-time="

Totally Peaceful Racist Group.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

Also man "favorite non-president historical figure" is such an easy layup question, how do you fuck it up? Just say Harriet Tubman. That will piss off literally no one except for the literal KKK. It's such an easy answer, how did you fuck it up in so many ways

I would have loved it if he answered Me, Joe Biden. But not for long.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/09/us/modesto-city-council-straight-pride-parade-trnd/index.html

He singled out Councilmember Kristi Ah You, accusing her of "pulling the race card" and allegedly inflaming tensions by "attacking us as racists."
Then he appeared to make a slip of the tongue.
"We haven't done anything," he said. "We're a totally peaceful, racist group."

Biden-level gaffe

TheRock1525 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg1Iklfu6No" data-time="

Totally Peaceful Racist Group.

Mea culpa
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Jakyl25 posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27356491/sources-ab-says-no-football-old-helmet

You know, when I read stories like this, or any other similar ones regarding "outspoken" athletes or whatever, the first thing that occurs to me is that, like, if I made even 1/10th as much money as these guys do, I'd be so much more crazy and outspoken than this. I'd be like, Alex Jones level of ranting on social media pretty much constantly.

It's absolutely weird to me that so many millionaires are so generally restrained. WTF are they scared of?

Lots of people just dont want that level of attention.

Most of them have handlers/agents/etc that probably tell them to not say or do anything that could cost them endorsement deals or appearances or things like that too.
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I have to point out a JaKyL'd when I see one.
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Basically SmartMuffin would be Notch
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Paratroopa1 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik cant read.

Anyway:

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/huh-in-iowa-speech-biden-confusingly-says-americans-choose-truth-over-facts/

After ending the speech, Biden took questions from the audience, the first asking who was his favorite historical figure who was not a president of the United States.

I think my favorite historical figure there is a couple of philosophers who I find understood human nature better than most people, Biden said. But in terms of political figures, maybe my favorite political figure, it is a tough call, I would have to say it is those people who gave America hope. Made them believe in who we are. You said not a president. I would have to start off with Jefferson, even though he didnt live up to it. He is the guy that wrote that incredible document.

This guy is losing it.

I thought for sure this was a Trump quote when I saw it

Maybe he meant Jefferson Davis and doesn't recognize his rebellious scum government.
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SmartMuffin posted...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27356491/sources-ab-says-no-football-old-helmet

You know, when I read stories like this, or any other similar ones regarding "outspoken" athletes or whatever, the first thing that occurs to me is that, like, if I made even 1/10th as much money as these guys do, I'd be so much more crazy and outspoken than this. I'd be like, Alex Jones level of ranting on social media pretty much constantly.

It's absolutely weird to me that so many millionaires are so generally restrained. WTF are they scared of?

Losing tens of millions in e endorsements and having it as a negative on you that your skill is gonna have to outweigh?
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Paratroopa1 posted...

Also man "favorite non-president historical figure" is such an easy layup question, how do you fuck it up? Just say Harriet Tubman. That will piss off literally no one except for the literal KKK. It's such an easy answer, how did you fuck it up in so many ways

This is stuff Biden used to actually be pretty on point with. Its obvious hes too old and lost the ability to think on his feet.

Most of them have handlers/agents/etc that probably tell them to not say or do anything that could cost them endorsement deals or appearances or things like that too.

OK but at that point what do you really lose?

Antonio Brown has a $68 million contract. I don't know how much he might get paid to do a subway commercial or sign autographs down at the mall, but it can't be enough to meaningfully impact his standard of living.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Paratroopa1 posted...

Also man "favorite non-president historical figure" is such an easy layup question, how do you fuck it up? Just say Harriet Tubman. That will piss off literally no one except for the literal KKK. It's such an easy answer, how did you fuck it up in so many ways

This is stuff Biden used to actually be pretty on point with. Its obvious hes too old and lost the ability to think on his feet.

Russia just launched nukes at us. What do you wanna do?

"Tell Prussia to return them to base now or we will be upset"
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The FBI has arrested a man who appears to have been planning an attack on either a synagogue or a gay bar: https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1159960960662044672

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Re Biden, his age actually is a bit concerning to me. If there was another candidate with a decent shot and similar views I'd probably switch to them, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Harris is the closest, but things like flip flopping on her health care plan like 5 times really give me pause with her (Booker or Castro might be okay if they were to actually gain momentum).

Of course, a perfect alternative would be Hillary...!

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SmartMuffin posted...

Most of them have handlers/agents/etc that probably tell them to not say or do anything that could cost them endorsement deals or appearances or things like that too.

OK but at that point what do you really lose?

Antonio Brown has a $68 million contract. I don't know how much he might get paid to do a subway commercial or sign autographs down at the mall, but it can't be enough to meaningfully impact his standard of living.

It's still a lot of money. If you don't need it yourself you can always give it to someone else.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Re Biden, his age actually is a bit concerning to me. If there was another candidate with a decent shot and similar views I'd probably switch to them, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Harris is the closest, but things like flip flopping on her health care plan like 5 times really give me pause with her (Booker or Castro might be okay if they were to actually gain momentum).

Of course, a perfect alternative would be Hillary...!

I'm sure lots of Republicans would vote for her in the Dem primary to guarantee a GOP victory in the general. So with a crowded field and a political machine behind her - go for it!
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Re Biden, his age actually is a bit concerning to me

Biden is 76.
Bernie is 77.
Warren is 70.
(Trump is 73.)

All of them should have their age be a concern. It was also a very valid concern with McCain when he ran that got proven right - he wouldn't have lasted his term and we would've had president Palin.

If any of those three win the primary their VP matters more. They're all too fucking old.
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McCain's second term would have ended in 2017 just like Obama's. You can make the argument the stress of the job would have exacerbated things but that's the realm of speculation and what-ifs now, certainly not "proven."

That said, I do believe that his age (as well as the Biden/Sanders/Warren trio) does mean the VP pick gets increased importance and scrutiny.
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Kinglicious posted...

Biden is 76.
Bernie is 77.
Warren is 70.
(Trump is 73.)

All of them should have their age be a concern. It was also a very valid concern with McCain when he ran that got proven right - he wouldn't have lasted his term and we would've had president Palin.

If any of those three win the primary their VP matters more. They're all too fucking old.

I'd be a bit less worried about it for Warren because 6 or 7 years is a lot and she shows no signs of decline, but yeah that could change over 4 or 8 years.

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weird to think how Trump is already 2nd oldest a president has been while in office

and then crazier to think Bernie would begin his term older than the current oldest president was at the end of their term

Reagan stepping out at 77 on Jan 20th 1989, Bernie stepping in at 78 on Jan 20th 2020
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Warren at 70 doesn't concern me even slightly, but Biden and Sanders at 76 and 77 are a little troubling, especially since being president can't be great for your health

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/09/us/bernie-sanders-aliens-trnd/index.html

Lol
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https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1160080446081908737

They're like fucking comic book villains

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1160080446081908737

They're like fucking comic book villains

Trying to decide how more inhumane this is than hunting them for sport.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1160080446081908737

They're like fucking comic book villains

I don't actually know enough about this policy to judge it - at the very least, I strongly doubt that the purpose of this policy is to indiscriminately kill a lot of cute animals, so I wouldn't worry about this one that much, it just SOUNDS bad

that said, cyanide? idk

Corrik7 posted...

I am not positive, but I believe this was actually a minimum wage to $15 argument. The claim was I believe that there were not enough jobs for people to have a live-able wage.

I countered that the jobs do exist. People are not taking them.

yes, you countered that the jobs do exist and people are not taking them, based on the anecdotal evidence of your personal experience that doesn't prove anything. this is exactly what my point is.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I am not positive, but I believe this was actually a minimum wage to $15 argument. The claim was I believe that there were not enough jobs for people to have a live-able wage.

I countered that the jobs do exist. People are not taking them.

yes, you countered that the jobs do exist and people are not taking them, based on the anecdotal evidence of your personal experience that doesn't prove anything. this is exactly what my point is.

So, I am glad you agree that I did not say what you said I said.

With that said, yes, higher paying jobs do exist, and people do turn them down.

Probably the biggest impediment to climbing on the career ladder is comfortability. Though many don't want to do it either for a myriad of reasons.

I think my real life experience is just as valid as your hypotheticals, if not more. You talk about hypotheticals and theoretical situations, without any actual basis.

Like what do you do when serious jobs no longer exist!? Well, that is not the scenario when that discussion happened nor now!

If all the serious jobs are gone, it is because unemployment is high because those jobs exist now and are going unfilled way more than they should be. If the pay is the issue, why aren't they moving up and taking them?

The issue is of course that many want that pay to continue working where they are. Not to do a different job that pays that amount. Like, I said, a myriad of reasons exist for that. Some do move up and have that ambition. Many don't.

A lot of minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs and meant to be treated that way. They are not career jobs. People trying to make entry level jobs not meant to support families into jobs that support families is the issue. Get a better job.

I have said this a million times, and I will say it again. The difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals view things in theory and in ideal situations. They speak from the heart and what is the best they want for the world ideally.

Conservatives, in general, view things from experience and reality. They know the things liberals wish to attain in many times is not feasible or possible. They speak from the brain and what is the best that can be possibly done.
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Corrik7 posted...

I think my real life experience is just as valid as your hypotheticals, if not more.

it's not valid in the context of the discussion.

again, moogle said that there are more adults than "serious" jobs. your real life experience doesn't "prove" that this is not the case. anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
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Epstein dead by "suicide" in prison.
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Is Hillary Clinton the most prolific mass murderer of all time now?
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Corrik7 posted...

Conservatives, in general, view things from experience and reality. They know the things liberals wish to attain in many times is not feasible or possible. They speak from the brain and what is the best that can be possibly done.

This is a real thing that somebody said oh my fucking God how can you be so stupid
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i like how corrik went "liberals are idiots" while failing to grasp the incredibly simple concept of anecdotal evidence
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Imagine believing that not being President was going to stop Hillary from engaging in the extra-judicial murder of anyone who threatens her power
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Let's go Yang.
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