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mooreandrew58
06/10/19 3:03:52 AM
#51:


streamofthesky posted...
Literally devolved into a smart phone user just 4 months ago because the phone plans were actually cheaper than I was getting w/ my flip phone.

Where the fuck was this deal back then?

I miss my flip phone so much... Flip open phone, hit call button, maybe tap down a few times, hit call. Done. Barely even need to look, you can just feel the buttons w/ tactile senses. Touch screens suck.

I do love the custom ring tones and a camera that's worth a damn, but literally no reason flip phones can't have those things except the makers are too cheap to implement it


Yeah ive had a smartphone for awhile and i still fuck up typing all the time and auto correct is a bitch. Its often changing words I spelled right into something different and ignoring words I clearly butcher
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ParanoidObsessive
06/10/19 3:35:54 AM
#52:


_AdjI_ posted...
I'm already using a flip phone.

This. I barely use my phone as-is, because I prefer to do all my Internet-related interaction on a PC or laptop, and prefer my personal landline for actual phone calls. I really only use my cell phone for emergencies or calling home while I'm out and need to ask questions, or to coordinate meet-ups somewhere.

I acknowledge that there are a couple aps out there that could be useful beyond just using the Internet, but most of them are niche at best and more novelty than necessity, so they've never motivated me to go out of my way to get a smart phone solely to get them.

As for the usual time-wasting use of phones, I've always seen that to be just as pointless as owning handhelds like the Gameboy, DS, or Switch. 99% of the time when I'm out I'm actually doing things (like driving, shopping, etc), and wouldn't have the time/ability to pay attention to a time-waster in the first place, and in the rare cases where I'm going to be somewhere for a prolonged period of time where waiting is unavoidable (like riding on a train, or a doctor's appointment, getting my oil changed, etc), I usually just bring a book to read. I don't look down on others for wanting that sort of distraction, but it's never really been something that mattered to me personally.


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mooreandrew58
06/10/19 3:44:50 AM
#53:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
I'm already using a flip phone.

This. I barely use my phone as-is, because I prefer to do all my Internet-related interaction on a PC or laptop, and prefer my personal landline for actual phone calls. I really only use my cell phone for emergencies or calling home while I'm out and need to ask questions, or to coordinate meet-ups somewhere.

I acknowledge that there are a couple aps out there that could be useful beyond just using the Internet, but most of them are niche at best and more novelty than necessity, so they've never motivated me to go out of my way to get a smart phone solely to get them.

As for the usual time-wasting use of phones, I've always seen that to be just as pointless as owning handhelds like the Gameboy, DS, or Switch. 99% of the time when I'm out I'm actually doing things (like driving, shopping, etc), and wouldn't have the time/ability to pay attention to a time-waster in the first place, and in the rare cases where I'm going to be somewhere for a prolonged period of time where waiting is unavoidable (like riding on a train, or a doctor's appointment, getting my oil changed, etc), I usually just bring a book to read. I don't look down on others for wanting that sort of distraction, but it's never really been something that mattered to me personally.



I actually love handheld game consoles but rarely leave the house with them for similar reasons. But its nice being able to play a game anywhere in my house. On my bed on the couch. In the kitchen as in cooking something.
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darkknight109
06/10/19 4:17:13 AM
#54:


Frontier is especially looking for smartphone addicts and people with a strong social media presence and/or who are willing to vlog about their experience.

Well, that's 0-for-3 for me. Damn, that sucks, because I could do that shit easily... in the sense that I don't have a personal smartphone, just one for work.

Muscles posted...
VioletZer0 posted...
I need it for work so that's a nah from me.

How old are you? Dont you remember a time before smart phones?

I'm in the same boat and it's because I work from home, so work bought me a smart phone so they could actually get a hold of me. I would've been content for them to pay for me getting a landline installed, but this was apparently cheaper for them, so whatever.
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ParanoidObsessive
06/10/19 4:27:54 AM
#55:


mooreandrew58 posted...
I actually love handheld game consoles but rarely leave the house with them for similar reasons. But its nice being able to play a game anywhere in my house. On my bed on the couch. In the kitchen as in cooking something.

I hate playing on a small screen. If I'm in my house, I'd rather be playing on my actual console, where I can sit comfortably in a chair or on the couch and look at a giant TV.

That's part of why I don't even like playing PC games. My very specific idea of what fun gaming IS stems from a lifetime of playing on consoles starting with the ColecoVision. Anything that deviates from that tends to be less appealing to me.


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Kyuubi4269
06/10/19 5:25:01 AM
#56:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
That's part of why I don't even like playing PC games. My very specific idea of what fun gaming IS stems from a lifetime of playing on consoles starting with the ColecoVision. Anything that deviates from that tends to be less appealing to me.

You can just hook up your PC to your TV and run SteamOS.
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mooreandrew58
06/10/19 6:05:03 AM
#57:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
That's part of why I don't even like playing PC games. My very specific idea of what fun gaming IS stems from a lifetime of playing on consoles starting with the ColecoVision. Anything that deviates from that tends to be less appealing to me.

You can just hook up your PC to your TV and run SteamOS.


Yeah my brother has like a 30+ inch tv as his computer monitor. Chair is uncomfortable but thats because thats where he decided be cheap. I'm not a pc gamer cause convience aint gotta keep up with specs and what not to make sure a game will work.
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Kyuubi4269
06/10/19 7:35:44 AM
#58:


mooreandrew58 posted...
I'm not a pc gamer cause convience aint gotta keep up with specs and what not to make sure a game will work.

Unless you're playing 20+ year old games, you should be able to play basically anything with a mid-end set up.
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rexcrk
06/10/19 7:43:13 AM
#59:


Muscles posted...
Anyone over the age of like 21 could easily, it's just the zoomers that couldn't

Zoomers?
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mooreandrew58
06/10/19 8:03:56 AM
#60:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
I'm not a pc gamer cause convience aint gotta keep up with specs and what not to make sure a game will work.

Unless you're playing 20+ year old games, you should be able to play basically anything with a mid-end set up.


My brother has a gaming. Pc and I know at least 3 or 4 times hes had to upgrade parts. His computer was 3 thousand dollars when he bought it initially. Ive spent far less on consoles in the time hes had that computer.
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TallTamryu
06/10/19 8:35:00 AM
#61:


I feel like this should be way more open, not just to ONE person.
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InfestedAdam
06/10/19 11:22:49 AM
#62:


TallTamryu posted...
I feel like this should be way more open, not just to ONE person.

I'd say a dozen varying from smartphone/social media addicts to those who sparingly use them would make for a more interesting report than one just smartphone/social media addict.
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ParanoidObsessive
06/10/19 11:25:15 AM
#63:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Unless you're playing 20+ year old games, you should be able to play basically anything with a mid-end set up.

In my experience, this has literally never been true.

More specifically, if you're just buying your PC off the shelf, PC gaming is going to be far more trouble than its worth. There's almost always some level of effort required to adjust settings or download different drivers or to keep your specs upgraded to run games at anything other than the shittiest settings. And that's before you get into things like some PC ports being horrific clusterfucks compared to console releases (ie, Arkham Knight), or pretty much anything multiplayer being a nightmarish horror show due to hacking (I used to enjoy GTA Online on the PS4, but you couldn't pay me enough to play it on PC).

I've owned a few PC-exclusive games in the past, and it's always been a hassle to run any of them. Some of them I've literally never been able to play, across multiple computers over a span of 20 years. Generally speaking, you're either going to have to buy spec-built PCs that cost ~$1000 or more, or are going to need to build your own PC. And you're still going to have to upgrade on a fairly regular basis, because the PC that ran games perfectly today isn't necessarily going to be able to handle stuff released 2-3 years from now.

This HAS gotten better over the last decade or so (as the pace of PC tech improvement/growth has slowed), but it's still an issue.



Kyuubi4269 posted...
You can just hook up your PC to your TV and run SteamOS.

Except I would never do that, for multiple reasons.

First off, there's the aforementioned distaste for PC gaming, developed over decades worth of bad experiences. Even if PC gaming was absolutely perfected at this point, it's still difficult to overcome 35+ years worth of negative biases.

Secondly, those same 35+ years of gaming experience involve playing with a controller 99% of the time. Because of that, all of my reflexes and habits are geared to using a controller, to the point where I LOATHE playing any game with keyboard/mouse controls. Yes, lots of PC games either come with built-in controller support or can be mapped, but it often winds up being somewhat awkward or flawed. So that's another hassle added to existing hassles that discourage from even wanting to try.

And thirdly, Steam can go fuck itself.

It's not really a case of one major problem that can theoretically be solved as much as it is a case of dozens of minor issues I have with PC gaming that all add up to make the idea completely unappealing. And no matter how often PC Master Race types froth at the mouth and rant about how all of my personal opinions are wrong, it's not something anyone is ever going to talk me out of.


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mooreandrew58
06/11/19 12:01:18 AM
#64:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Unless you're playing 20+ year old games, you should be able to play basically anything with a mid-end set up.

In my experience, this has literally never been true.

More specifically, if you're just buying your PC off the shelf, PC gaming is going to be far more trouble than its worth. There's almost always some level of effort required to adjust settings or download different drivers or to keep your specs upgraded to run games at anything other than the shittiest settings. And that's before you get into things like some PC ports being horrific clusterfucks compared to console releases (ie, Arkham Knight), or pretty much anything multiplayer being a nightmarish horror show due to hacking (I used to enjoy GTA Online on the PS4, but you couldn't pay me enough to play it on PC).

I've owned a few PC-exclusive games in the past, and it's always been a hassle to run any of them. Some of them I've literally never been able to play, across multiple computers over a span of 20 years. Generally speaking, you're either going to have to buy spec-built PCs that cost ~$1000 or more, or are going to need to build your own PC. And you're still going to have to upgrade on a fairly regular basis, because the PC that ran games perfectly today isn't necessarily going to be able to handle stuff released 2-3 years from now.

This HAS gotten better over the last decade or so (as the pace of PC tech improvement/growth has slowed), but it's still an issue.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
You can just hook up your PC to your TV and run SteamOS.

Except I would never do that, for multiple reasons.

First off, there's the aforementioned distaste for PC gaming, developed over decades worth of bad experiences. Even if PC gaming was absolutely perfected at this point, it's still difficult to overcome 35+ years worth of negative biases.

Secondly, those same 35+ years of gaming experience involve playing with a controller 99% of the time. Because of that, all of my reflexes and habits are geared to using a controller, to the point where I LOATHE playing any game with keyboard/mouse controls. Yes, lots of PC games either come with built-in controller support or can be mapped, but it often winds up being somewhat awkward or flawed. So that's another hassle added to existing hassles that discourage from even wanting to try.

And thirdly, Steam can go fuck itself.

It's not really a case of one major problem that can theoretically be solved as much as it is a case of dozens of minor issues I have with PC gaming that all add up to make the idea completely unappealing. And no matter how often PC Master Race types froth at the mouth and rant about how all of my personal opinions are wrong, it's not something anyone is ever going to talk me out of.



Yeah you reminded me another reason I dont do pc. Ive like seen one or two exclusives I was interested in. 9 times out of 10 the exclusives I want are consoles. Only thing thats not on consoles I want that i can think of is shadowrun returns and i think there was another shadowrun or it was just a dlc for that one. Also dont care that greatly for mods so thats not really a selling point to me.
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Zeus
06/11/19 1:54:01 AM
#65:


streamofthesky posted...
Literally devolved into a smart phone user just 4 months ago because the phone plans were actually cheaper than I was getting w/ my flip phone.

Where the fuck was this deal back then?

I miss my flip phone so much... Flip open phone, hit call button, maybe tap down a few times, hit call. Done. Barely even need to look, you can just feel the buttons w/ tactile senses. Touch screens suck.

I do love the custom ring tones and a camera that's worth a damn, but literally no reason flip phones can't have those things except the makers are too cheap to implement it


You can put custom ring tones on a flip. And yeah, having a phone that didn't turn on in my pocket was nice.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
As for the usual time-wasting use of phones, I've always seen that to be just as pointless as owning handhelds like the Gameboy, DS, or Switch. 99% of the time when I'm out I'm actually doing things (like driving, shopping, etc), and wouldn't have the time/ability to pay attention to a time-waster in the first place, and in the rare cases where I'm going to be somewhere for a prolonged period of time where waiting is unavoidable (like riding on a train, or a doctor's appointment, getting my oil changed, etc), I usually just bring a book to read. I don't look down on others for wanting that sort of distraction, but it's never really been something that mattered to me personally.


Oh joy, it's THIS shit again...

And honestly, most places outside the home where I game would be too distracting to read. And when I read, I want to be able to devote several hours at a time so bringing a book because I'm waiting 10-15 minutes ain't going to cut it.

mooreandrew58 posted...
I actually love handheld game consoles but rarely leave the house with them for similar reasons. But its nice being able to play a game anywhere in my house. On my bed on the couch. In the kitchen as in cooking something.


Yeah, the mobility is a great feature.
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ParanoidObsessive
06/11/19 4:34:22 AM
#66:


Zeus posted...
Oh joy, it's THIS shit again...

Psssht.

You kind of deliberately ignored one of the most important parts of the post you quoted, which kind of completely shits on your entire indignation and rebuttal:

"I don't look down on others for wanting that sort of distraction, but it's never really been something that mattered to me personally."

I'm not going around being a judgmental asshole shitting on anyone who dares use a phone, or saying that anyone who's ever bought a DS or a PSP or whatever is a vapid waste of space. I'm saying that those things literally don't have value to ME.

Which I can say without hesitation is a statement that is 100% factually, objectively true, no matter how badly it might trigger you.



Zeus posted...
And honestly, most places outside the home where I game would be too distracting to read.

I find gaming to be far more disrupted by outside distractions than reading. Especially if it's a wait that's going to be periodically interrupted. It's also a lot easier for me to pause a book in the middle of a paragraph/chapter/etc than it is to pause in the middle of a game if I happen to be in a really tense part, let alone stop playing entirely because I've now finished my alloted period of time wasting and won't be able to get back to finish for hours (if not longer).

Generally speaking, if I'm in a position where I feel comfortable enough to play a game, I'm also comfortable enough to read. But there are plenty of scenarios where I feel comfortable enough to read but still wouldn't want to game. Especially considering the aforementioned "tiny screens suck" issue.

Though admittedly, this might be at least partly because I'm a speed-reading book nerd who has spent most of his life reading, so I'm generally quite keen on it.



Zeus posted...
I want to be able to devote several hours at a time so bringing a book because I'm waiting 10-15 minutes ain't going to cut it.

Conversely, I'd argue that I want to be able to devote several hours at a time to any given game, so bringing a handheld along because I'm waiting 10-15 minutes ain't going to cut it.

The time when I just sit down and play a quick game of Nibbles (Snake) or Tetris are long since over. Some of the shortest games I play these days are 80+ hours long - and while they have save functions, and I can't even remotely finish them in a single sitting, they're also not games that are even remotely worth playing in 10-15 minute increments. Generally speaking, I won't even consider sitting down to play a game unless I know I've got at least a couple hours to kill.

I mostly bring books when I know in advance that I'm going to be waiting for a while, and I tend to cater to the sort of wait. If I'm only going to be waiting for a short time (quick appointment wait), I may bring a lighter book, whereas if I'm going to be a long time (like on a flight or something), I'll bring something heavier (I read 500 pages of Foucault's Pendulum when I was waiting on line at a Depeche Mode signing in NYC for like 10 hours).

All that really leaves is super-short waits that were unexpected (like a 5 minute wait at the deli counter or something), but I'm perfectly capable of not desperately needing something to distract me in situations like that, so I've never really missed not having a book or a game to fill the time.


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kukukupo
06/11/19 5:56:47 AM
#67:


I'm going back to a flip phone for free.

you guys are getting paid?
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captpackrat
06/11/19 7:31:12 AM
#68:


I would love to have a smartphone that was the size of my old Motorola RAZR V3c. With an actual phone keypad at the bottom.
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ArvTheGreat
06/11/19 9:27:21 AM
#69:


What else is he going to do at work? Actual work?
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OhhhJa
06/11/19 9:30:00 AM
#70:


If you cant go a week without a smartphone for a thousand bucks, you have a serious phone addiction problem and should probably think about changing your phone habits. Other than absolutely needing it for work which is probably pretty rare
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Unbridled9
06/11/19 9:33:08 AM
#71:


For a week? Yea. I could do that. Especially for 1,000 bucks. But I clicked no by accident.
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Arguro
06/11/19 9:35:53 AM
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I would give up mine for a week for a good burrito. I would give it up for life for $1000!
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darkknight109
06/11/19 3:01:23 PM
#73:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
You kind of deliberately ignored one of the most important parts of the post you quoted, which kind of completely shits on your entire indignation and rebuttal:

"I don't look down on others for wanting that sort of distraction, but it's never really been something that mattered to me personally."

Ah, PO, you forgot the first rule of the internet:

Just because you don't look down on other people's views doesn't mean other people won't look down on yours.
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CarefreeDude
06/11/19 3:55:26 PM
#74:


This seems like a lot of effort to go through for 1000 bucks.
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mooreandrew58
06/11/19 4:11:08 PM
#75:


CarefreeDude posted...
This seems like a lot of effort to go through for 1000 bucks.


Not really. Unless your job depends on a smart phone itss a minor inconvenience at most.
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CarefreeDude
06/11/19 4:14:29 PM
#76:


mooreandrew58 posted...
CarefreeDude posted...
This seems like a lot of effort to go through for 1000 bucks.


Not really. Unless your job depends on a smart phone itss a minor inconvenience at most.


Not the cell phone part itself; but the part where you have to go through a process to prove you use your phone too much and then hopefully try and win a drawing.

This is just a giveaway with extra steps; heck it's not even a giveaway. The winner is getting "paid" for a viral marketing campaign; or heck, if you translate that campaign into a work week, with you having to work much more than a 40 hour work week (since you don't get a "break"), you're not really making that much money.
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mooreandrew58
06/11/19 8:42:33 PM
#77:


CarefreeDude posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
CarefreeDude posted...
This seems like a lot of effort to go through for 1000 bucks.


Not really. Unless your job depends on a smart phone itss a minor inconvenience at most.


Not the cell phone part itself; but the part where you have to go through a process to prove you use your phone too much and then hopefully try and win a drawing.

This is just a giveaway with extra steps; heck it's not even a giveaway. The winner is getting "paid" for a viral marketing campaign; or heck, if you translate that campaign into a work week, with you having to work much more than a 40 hour work week (since you don't get a "break"), you're not really making that much money.


A lot of people work far harder for less a week. He'll when I worked construction I was only getting 600 a week and only had 1 day off.
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Entity13
06/11/19 9:02:03 PM
#78:


streamofthesky posted...
Literally devolved into a smart phone user just 4 months ago because the phone plans were actually cheaper than I was getting w/ my flip phone.

Where the f*** was this deal back then?


Right? I miss being on a flip phone.
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ParanoidObsessive
06/12/19 12:17:21 AM
#79:


kukukupo posted...
you guys are getting paid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CDvnQgarHA" data-time="&start=78



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Zeus
06/12/19 12:43:47 AM
#80:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
You kind of deliberately ignored one of the most important parts of the post you quoted, which kind of completely shits on your entire indignation and rebuttal:


Given that I was specifically responding to the fact that you were starting your usual tirade -- not that our opinions differ -- that's hardly relevant.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
I'm not going around being a judgmental asshole shitting on anyone who dares use a phone, or saying that anyone who's ever bought a DS or a PSP or whatever is a vapid waste of space. I'm saying that those things literally don't have value to ME.

Which I can say without hesitation is a statement that is 100% factually, objectively true, no matter how badly it might trigger you.


If it's an opinion, it can't be objective! Ha-ha! You are undone, sir!

ParanoidObsessive posted...
I find gaming to be far more disrupted by outside distractions than reading. Especially if it's a wait that's going to be periodically interrupted. It's also a lot easier for me to pause a book in the middle of a paragraph/chapter/etc than it is to pause in the middle of a game if I happen to be in a really tense part, let alone stop playing entirely because I've now finished my alloted period of time wasting and won't be able to get back to finish for hours (if not longer).


Could be a genre thing. That aside, a lot of handheld games are specifically designed to be pick-up-and-play and later handhelds expanded on that by effectively having a sleep mode.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
The time when I just sit down and play a quick game of Nibbles (Snake) or Tetris are long since over. Some of the shortest games I play these days are 80+ hours long - and while they have save functions, and I can't even remotely finish them in a single sitting, they're also not games that are even remotely worth playing in 10-15 minute increments. Generally speaking, I won't even consider sitting down to play a game unless I know I've got at least a couple hours to kill.


Yeah, I just straight up don't have the time to commit to uninterrupted long sittings and I hesitate when I hear 80+ hour game because that usually means I'll invest three to five times as many hours. And if it's a game where I put in more than 80 hours, it's usually because it can be enjoyed in shorter intervals. Lately I can't even get a weekend for Pokemon Go with all of the shit I get dragged into.

mooreandrew58 posted...
CarefreeDude posted...
This seems like a lot of effort to go through for 1000 bucks.


Not really. Unless your job depends on a smart phone itss a minor inconvenience at most.


It can be a major inconvenience at times.
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Johnny Eagle
06/12/19 2:01:14 AM
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Not for $1000. Maybe for $2500, assuming I'd be allowed to use a non-smart cell phone to make calls with during the week
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mooreandrew58
06/12/19 4:49:48 AM
#82:


Zeus posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
You kind of deliberately ignored one of the most important parts of the post you quoted, which kind of completely shits on your entire indignation and rebuttal:


Given that I was specifically responding to the fact that you were starting your usual tirade -- not that our opinions differ -- that's hardly relevant.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
I'm not going around being a judgmental asshole shitting on anyone who dares use a phone, or saying that anyone who's ever bought a DS or a PSP or whatever is a vapid waste of space. I'm saying that those things literally don't have value to ME.

Which I can say without hesitation is a statement that is 100% factually, objectively true, no matter how badly it might trigger you.


If it's an opinion, it can't be objective! Ha-ha! You are undone, sir!

ParanoidObsessive posted...
I find gaming to be far more disrupted by outside distractions than reading. Especially if it's a wait that's going to be periodically interrupted. It's also a lot easier for me to pause a book in the middle of a paragraph/chapter/etc than it is to pause in the middle of a game if I happen to be in a really tense part, let alone stop playing entirely because I've now finished my alloted period of time wasting and won't be able to get back to finish for hours (if not longer).


Could be a genre thing. That aside, a lot of handheld games are specifically designed to be pick-up-and-play and later handhelds expanded on that by effectively having a sleep mode.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
The time when I just sit down and play a quick game of Nibbles (Snake) or Tetris are long since over. Some of the shortest games I play these days are 80+ hours long - and while they have save functions, and I can't even remotely finish them in a single sitting, they're also not games that are even remotely worth playing in 10-15 minute increments. Generally speaking, I won't even consider sitting down to play a game unless I know I've got at least a couple hours to kill.


Yeah, I just straight up don't have the time to commit to uninterrupted long sittings and I hesitate when I hear 80+ hour game because that usually means I'll invest three to five times as many hours. And if it's a game where I put in more than 80 hours, it's usually because it can be enjoyed in shorter intervals. Lately I can't even get a weekend for Pokemon Go with all of the shit I get dragged into.

mooreandrew58 posted...
CarefreeDude posted...
This seems like a lot of effort to go through for 1000 bucks.


Not really. Unless your job depends on a smart phone itss a minor inconvenience at most.


It can be a major inconvenience at times.


The most important feature of a phone is calling people. Flip phones do that and texting for added convience. As said unless you need it for your job. Gps devices exist so you dont have to have a smart phone for that plus actual maps still exist. Plus once again unless its for work I think most people can go a week without needing to travel to unfamilar places where they would need directions.

I can still remember printing maps off the internet before traveling in the days before gps was common. Wasnt that big of a deal.
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LinkPizza
06/12/19 7:57:22 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Zeus posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
CarefreeDude posted...
This seems like a lot of effort to go through for 1000 bucks.


Not really. Unless your job depends on a smart phone itss a minor inconvenience at most.


It can be a major inconvenience at times.


The most important feature of a phone is calling people. Flip phones do that and texting for added convience. As said unless you need it for your job. Gps devices exist so you dont have to have a smart phone for that plus actual maps still exist. Plus once again unless its for work I think most people can go a week without needing to travel to unfamilar places where they would need directions.

I can still remember printing maps off the internet before traveling in the days before gps was common. Wasnt that big of a deal.

I remember printing off directions for when we needed to go somewhere. The problem was to remember to get directions back. And to also not get lost. Could be hard to get back on track...
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Tacticus
06/12/19 7:58:56 AM
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Not a problem for me since I don't use one anyway.
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ParanoidObsessive
06/12/19 8:51:39 AM
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Zeus posted...
Given that I was specifically responding to the fact that you were starting your usual tirade -- not that our opinions differ -- that's hardly relevant.

When people keep asking the same questions, I'm going to keep giving the same answers. I'm sorry that people having opinions offends you.



Zeus posted...
If it's an opinion, it can't be objective! Ha-ha! You are undone, sir!

Nope, that's not how logic works.

It's more than possible to be an objective fact that someone has a specific opinion. No, that doesn't make the opinion itself fact, but that's also not what I said.



Zeus posted...
Could be a genre thing. That aside, a lot of handheld games are specifically designed to be pick-up-and-play and later handhelds expanded on that by effectively having a sleep mode.

It's definitely a genre thing, but also a preference thing - the game types and playstyles that lend themselves most effectively to mobile play are also the same ones that either never appealed to me at any point, or stopped appealing to me 20+ years ago. Platformers, runners, color match puzzle games, timed mechanic freemium crap... mobile gaming as a whole is kind of worthless to me. As for handhelds like the DS or Switch specifically, the problem there is that they're mostly playing Nintendo games.

It probably doesn't help that I'm from that older generation that feels the need to pause and save/quit games when prolonged distractions occur, as opposed to the younger generation (whenever I watch my nephew play a game and just leave his character randomly standing somewhere while he wanders off for a couple hours it makes me twitchy), so sleep mode feels unnatural to me. Or that I loathe touchscreen controls in general, so short of me pulling out a full bluetooth controller and plugging it in to play I wouldn't be playing games on a phone period. Or that I've always found tiny screens annoying for gaming (I didn't like the GBA back in the day for similar reasons). I bought a GBA SP forever ago with games like LoZ, FFI&II, Broken Sword, and Deja Vu, and I think I used it for all of like 5 hours of playtime total.

It's just the nature of the beast - I think the inherent limitations in the hardware as a device make it functionally impossible for it to provide anything resembling a gaming experience that I want out of gaming.

I get that other people don't necessarily care about those sorts of things, and modern digital culture has left most people with the attention span of gnats so 30 seconds without direct stimulus is like an eternity in hell, which is part of why mobile gaming in general is MASSIVE compared to PC/console gaming (and why companies like EA are tripping over their own dicks in an attempt to ruin their own games to profit from the same model), but works for those people simply doesn't work for me.


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mooreandrew58
06/12/19 11:09:34 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
I remember printing off directions for when we needed to go somewhere. The problem was to remember to get directions back. And to also not get lost. Could be hard to get back on track


Wed print off the written directions and the literal map. Going back the other way was usually just reversing the directions.
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06/12/19 11:16:57 AM
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I could do this.
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InfestedAdam
06/12/19 12:39:23 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
I remember printing off directions for when we needed to go somewhere. The problem was to remember to get directions back. And to also not get lost. Could be hard to get back on track

Wed print off the written directions and the literal map. Going back the other way was usually just reversing the directions.

Can't say I miss the days of Map Quest. As a kid I remembered when traveling to somewhere new for a party, wedding, family gathering, etc. my father would take out his Thomas Guide, and both write down the directions and create a small local map.
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LinkPizza
06/12/19 12:44:23 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
I remember printing off directions for when we needed to go somewhere. The problem was to remember to get directions back. And to also not get lost. Could be hard to get back on track


Wed print off the written directions and the literal map. Going back the other way was usually just reversing the directions.

Normally, its backwards. But there were a good amount of directions that took us different ways based on... something...
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gguirao
06/12/19 1:12:30 PM
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No.
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darkknight109
06/12/19 11:08:05 PM
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Zeus posted...
It can be a major inconvenience at times.

I have never been inconvenienced by not being able to access a smart phone.
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06/13/19 12:03:07 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
Zeus posted...
It can be a major inconvenience at times.

I have never been inconvenienced by not being able to access a smart phone.

I have...
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