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Jakyl25
07/31/18 12:07:12 AM
#404:


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/30/politics/rudy-giuliani-collusion-crime-cnntv/index.html

"Four months, they're not going to be colluding with Russia, which I don't even know if that's a crime, colluding about Russians," Giuliani, a former federal prosecutor, continued. "You start analyzing the crime -- the hacking is the crime. ... The President didn't hack."


Rudy is truly Americas sharpest legal mind
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XIII_rocks
07/31/18 12:10:07 AM
#405:


I don't even know if that's a crime, colluding about Russians," Giuliani, a former federal prosecutor, continued.


That's some great sass
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Kenri
07/31/18 12:52:52 AM
#406:


https://politics.theonion.com/giuliani-insists-breaking-the-law-not-a-crime-1827979622

today in "the onion is just normal news now"
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SupremeZero
07/31/18 12:53:34 AM
#407:


Kenri posted...
https://politics.theonion.com/giuliani-insists-breaking-the-law-not-a-crime-1827979622

today in "the onion is just normal news now"

It's actually Schrodinger's Onion. It is, at the same time, both The Onion and Not The Onion
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HaRRicH
07/31/18 8:48:17 AM
#408:


https://us17.campaign-archive.com/?u=40b35ab3e6c83f389457bf3e9&id=690d99c9cc

^ A review of July 2017, one year later.

Highlights include:

*A meme of Donald Trump beating up a CNN logo somehow affected the world.

*Donald Trump Jr. released his emails plotting with Russians against Hillary Clinton.

*John McCain gave a big thumbs-down to oppose repealing the Affordable Care Act.

*THE MOOCH
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Suprak the Stud
07/31/18 11:35:39 AM
#409:


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/30/politics/koch-brothers-north-dakota-kevin-cramer/index.html

Thats a pretty big one for them to sit out. Frustrations between them and the current state of the GOP may be real after all.
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GuessMyUserName
07/31/18 11:50:07 AM
#410:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1024236805477097472

oh my god he's attacking the Koch brothers ahahahahahahahahah yessssssss yessss

while also subtly admitting his tax & regulation cuts are for rich of course
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LordoftheMorons
07/31/18 12:16:45 PM
#411:


Facebook has detected 2018 influence campaigns centered around things like nazi rally 2.0 and Abolish ICE:
https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1024325860621516800
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Jakyl25
07/31/18 1:45:23 PM
#412:


GuessMyUserName posted...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1024236805477097472

oh my god he's attacking the Koch brothers ahahahahahahahahah yessssssss yessss

while also subtly admitting his tax & regulation cuts are for rich of course


I...think Im rooting for Trump?
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KamikazePotato
07/31/18 3:09:49 PM
#413:


Trump potentially going to war with the Koch brothers is a liberal's wet dream
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Mr Lasastryke
07/31/18 3:18:53 PM
#414:


lol "globalist koch brothers."

already said this in the freedom topic but this is why i argue with vlado. even the fucking president of the united states is using the same inane "WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE GLOBALISTS" rhetoric now.
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Dancedreamer
07/31/18 3:20:59 PM
#415:


The thing about Republicans is... they define words however it's convenient for them. So you can't argue with them.
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pxlated
07/31/18 3:31:30 PM
#416:


who is america ep 3 is slaying me right now

the roy moore bit was maybe a little underwhelming but the quincenera section, oh my god. so much ugly laughing, followed by the onset of dread

part of me hopes some of these segments with non-political figures are staged/scripted because i would feel so much better about humanity
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Jakyl25
07/31/18 4:19:45 PM
#417:


Trump says the technology to 3D print usable firearms doesnt make sense to him, and the NRA has assured him its fine.

I trust this assessment wholeheartedly
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Hardcore_Adult
07/31/18 4:27:54 PM
#418:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
lol "globalist koch brothers."

already said this in the freedom topic but this is why i argue with vlado. even the fucking president of the united states is using the same inane "WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE GLOBALISTS" rhetoric now.


I thought this was to do with a lot of free time lol.
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Jakyl25
07/31/18 4:27:57 PM
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Mr Lasastryke
07/31/18 4:29:16 PM
#420:


Hardcore_Adult posted...
I thought this was to do with a lot of free time lol.


well that too >_>
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Hardcore_Adult
07/31/18 4:30:35 PM
#421:


^ But you don't seem as LITERALLY OBSESSED with him as some of people, so you get a pass.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/31/18 4:32:38 PM
#422:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/rudygiuliani/status/1023540603215405056?s=21

Rudy is also a Twitter master


in b4 rightists go "LOL LIBERALS MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL OUT OF THIS" like they did with covfefe
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Jakyl25
07/31/18 4:33:10 PM
#423:


At least Trump deleted Covfefe the next morning
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Mr Lasastryke
07/31/18 4:36:08 PM
#424:


trump never did finish his tweet, did he?

shame. i was so interested in what he had to say about constant negative press coverage.
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Jakyl25
07/31/18 4:37:06 PM
#425:


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1024263146008207361?s=21

Collusion is not a crime, but that doesnt matter because there was No Collusion (except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)!


This might have already been posted, but its so stupid that it deserves reposting.

Lock Her Up! For these NON-CRIMES!
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Mr Lasastryke
07/31/18 4:41:36 PM
#426:


don't think it was posted yet actually. but yeah, i love how trump just keeps acting like someone who's 100% guilty. "imagine if i - totally hypothetically - committed this crime, then i wouldn't be convicted because it's not actually a crime. BUT I DIDN'T COMMIT THE CRIME SO IT DOESN'T MATTER"
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Jakyl25
07/31/18 4:42:29 PM
#427:


I cant keep my Trumper Theories straight

Did Hillary collude with Russia to win and failed, and Mueller is secretly gonna bring her down, or did she want war with Russia and Trump is better because working with them is a good thing?

Or somehow both??
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xp1337
07/31/18 5:55:46 PM
#428:


I mean, I've heard both of those so...

Anyway, as dumb as the whole "Collusion is not a crime!" thing is, isn't this a repeat? I could have sworn this talking point made the rounds... god time no longer seems to flow linearly... uh... maybe a year ago? I could have sworn it even reached the level of Trump tweeting about it but I may have that particular detail wrong and it was "just" contained to spokespeople/pundits. I very specifically remember talk about how it's not in the Federal Code, etc. (Ignoring that generally speaking conspiracy would cover what is generally referred to as collusion here.)

Also in today's news, the Manafort trial began.
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FFDragon
07/31/18 6:08:48 PM
#429:


i mean technically he is right in that collusion is not a recognized crime

but only because legally it's called conspiracy
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Mr Lasastryke
07/31/18 6:08:53 PM
#430:


xp1337 posted...
Anyway, as dumb as the whole "Collusion is not a crime!" thing is, isn't this a repeat?


most of trump's tweets are just repeats of points he's made a gazillion times before so yeah, that could very well be the case
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FFDragon
07/31/18 6:09:15 PM
#431:


oh i see i am one post late

oh well
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scarletspeed7
07/31/18 6:20:32 PM
#432:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/rudygiuliani/status/1023540603215405056?s=21

Rudy is also a Twitter master

Honestly the number of different song lyrics posted in response to it are pretty impressive.
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LordoftheMorons
07/31/18 11:35:20 PM
#433:


Sentient heap of garbage Alex Jones is seeking $100,000 in court costs from the family of one of the Sandy Hook victims:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/us/politics/alex-jones-defamation-suit-sandy-hook.html
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LinkMarioSamus
08/01/18 12:54:20 AM
#434:


Jakyl25 posted...
I cant keep my Trumper Theories straight

Did Hillary collude with Russia to win and failed, and Mueller is secretly gonna bring her down, or did she want war with Russia and Trump is better because working with them is a good thing?

Or somehow both??


In her book Hillary said she wanted to do anything possible to rein in Russia.
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Jakyl25
08/01/18 1:07:14 AM
#435:


Yeah but you cant trust her. Shes crooked
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Jakyl25
08/01/18 1:18:13 AM
#436:


CNN has videos up of reporter Jim Acosta getting heckled at Trump rallies

But the REAL news is that they are too afraid to run the headline Jim Accosted.

Cowards!
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Kenri
08/01/18 1:26:15 AM
#437:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
I cant keep my Trumper Theories straight

Did Hillary collude with Russia to win and failed, and Mueller is secretly gonna bring her down, or did she want war with Russia and Trump is better because working with them is a good thing?

Or somehow both??


In her book Hillary said she wanted to do anything possible to rein in Russia.

That was a typo, it was supposed to say "reign in Russia".
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red sox 777
08/01/18 2:38:05 AM
#438:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
The point is that you can't blame information for an election loss. There is false information from millions of sources floating around. You can't seriously blame one source for an entire presidential loss.

The only thing that really is concerning is hacking voting machines, which has been proven to be negligible.


I don't really see the difference between Russia influencing an election and Goldman Sachs, or George Soros, or the Koch brothers. Or Israel.
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red sox 777
08/01/18 2:50:06 AM
#439:


And, the only reason there is/was enmity between the US and Russia in the first place is that the US, until Trump, insisted on treating Russia as an enemy even though the Soviet Union was disbanded 27 years ago. Russia tried our system in the 90s.... and we continued to treat them as an enemy. Didn't give them aid, didn't disband our military alliance (NATO) even though they got rid of theirs (Warsaw Pact). And after a decade of economic collapse and hyperconcentration of wealth, Russia gave up on our system and elected Putin.
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LordoftheMorons
08/01/18 2:54:25 AM
#440:


Obama tried a reset with Russia. Then Putin started pulling shit like fucking annexing Crimea.
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LinkMarioSamus
08/01/18 6:32:25 AM
#441:


Kenri posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
I cant keep my Trumper Theories straight

Did Hillary collude with Russia to win and failed, and Mueller is secretly gonna bring her down, or did she want war with Russia and Trump is better because working with them is a good thing?

Or somehow both??


In her book Hillary said she wanted to do anything possible to rein in Russia.

That was a typo, it was supposed to say "reign in Russia".


No, she meant keeping Russia under control.

Thinking about it, maybe many Americans are sick of their country's role as global policeman? And thinking about it more, most of the reason for America's alliances with European countries is due to WWII and then The Cold War, so perhaps to many these alliances no longer have any use since all that is done with?
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Peace___Frog
08/01/18 6:56:48 AM
#442:


You have to believe that anything that happened before your birth is ancient history for that conclusion to have any validity.
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pxlated
08/01/18 7:41:58 AM
#443:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpmnTKi-Gqc" data-time="


Not really a surprise or new information but these videos always make me feel extra depressed

Liberals and Islam SUCK'S
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HanOfTheNekos
08/01/18 7:55:10 AM
#444:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Kenri posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
I cant keep my Trumper Theories straight

Did Hillary collude with Russia to win and failed, and Mueller is secretly gonna bring her down, or did she want war with Russia and Trump is better because working with them is a good thing?

Or somehow both??


In her book Hillary said she wanted to do anything possible to rein in Russia.

That was a typo, it was supposed to say "reign in Russia".


No, she meant keeping Russia under control.

Thinking about it, maybe many Americans are sick of their country's role as global policeman? And thinking about it more, most of the reason for America's alliances with European countries is due to WWII and then The Cold War, so perhaps to many these alliances no longer have any use since all that is done with?


Bro, it was a joke.

And half of America still believes we are the best country that can ever exist and that we should police the world.
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Jakyl25
08/01/18 10:35:10 AM
#445:


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1024646945640525826?s=21

..This is a terrible situation and Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further. Bob Mueller is totally conflicted, and his 17 Angry Democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to USA!


Obstruction of Justice is such a casual thing for him that he just tweets it now
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The Mana Sword
08/01/18 10:36:16 AM
#446:


wait when did we get 4 more angry democrats
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Jakyl25
08/01/18 10:37:17 AM
#447:


Someone poured water on them

Dont feed them after midnight
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pyresword
08/01/18 10:52:15 AM
#448:


The reason I care about alleged Russian activities is not because it might have changed the election result, but because it currently seems like Russia is engaging in a highly involved and sophisticated campaign to divide our society and create chaos/discontent. I would guess/hope that the majority of people who care about this are of a similar mindset.
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Jakyl25
08/01/18 10:54:19 AM
#449:


pyresword posted...
Russia is engaging in a highly involved and sophisticated campaign to divide our society and create chaos/discontent


And most importantly, successful

If we are meddling in their elections then we stink at it by comparison
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LinkMarioSamus
08/01/18 11:25:52 AM
#450:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Kenri posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
I cant keep my Trumper Theories straight

Did Hillary collude with Russia to win and failed, and Mueller is secretly gonna bring her down, or did she want war with Russia and Trump is better because working with them is a good thing?

Or somehow both??


In her book Hillary said she wanted to do anything possible to rein in Russia.

That was a typo, it was supposed to say "reign in Russia".


No, she meant keeping Russia under control.

Thinking about it, maybe many Americans are sick of their country's role as global policeman? And thinking about it more, most of the reason for America's alliances with European countries is due to WWII and then The Cold War, so perhaps to many these alliances no longer have any use since all that is done with?


Bro, it was a joke.

And half of America still believes we are the best country that can ever exist and that we should police the world.


Oh sorry I didn't understand, doesn't help that I myself was struggling to decide what word to use in the first place before I went with "rein".

Well Trump's trying to take an isolationist stance...actually who knows. Does he stand for anything other than random chaos?
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The Mana Sword
08/01/18 11:39:26 AM
#451:


boy he's really going at it on twitter today
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CelesMyUserName
08/01/18 11:51:02 AM
#452:


Last week's news: Mueller is looking at Trump's tweets for Obstruction, particularly about Sessions & Comey

This week's news: Trump tweets for Sessions to shut down the investigation "right now"!

like come the fuck on how does this end in anything other than Trump in handcuffs
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pxlated
08/01/18 11:57:45 AM
#453:


I think the Russia investigation is important and all that, and while Jimmy dore has in some ways gone off the deep end, I do think he is right in saying that the Russia stuff distracts from a lot more serious issues with our country.

Russia didn't suddenly make our country divided politically, it didnt suddenly turn our government corrupt. It might be stoking the fire, but they didn't start it. It's easy to point at them and turn them into the villian but at the end of the day the real fault lies at home. And, similarily, Donald Trump wasn't the start of corruption either. The government didn't suddenly become a terrible institution when he took office. He is a symptom of problems that have been festering for a long time, long before any of this Russia business
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