Board 8 > 9/20 topics on the front page are s***posts from Ulti

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redrocket
07/02/18 12:10:39 PM
#51:


Being passionate about a form of media doesn't give you a free pass to just trash examples of it that are beloved to a lot of people. I mean, you're free to have that opinion, but don't cry when people call you out for being a dick about it (there's a difference between cynicism and just being a dick).
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v_charon
07/02/18 12:16:55 PM
#52:


This was the last thing I expected to be the discussion in here.
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Gatarix
07/02/18 12:20:21 PM
#53:


for what it's worth I am probably gonna main Constantine

but I am probably going to co-main Stupendous Man, from Calvin & Hobbes, because I love Calvin & Hobbes. so maybe I'm just proving your point
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scarletspeed7
07/02/18 12:20:32 PM
#54:


redrocket posted...
Being passionate about a form of media doesn't give you a free pass to just trash examples of it that are beloved to a lot of people. I mean, you're free to have that opinion, but don't cry when people call you out for being a dick about it (there's a difference between cynicism and just being a dick).


You're completely wrong. Saying that I find something meritless doesn't mean that I'm decrying people from enjoying it. I've never in my life made a topic or engaged independently in a conversation designed to negatively promote that purpose. Because you are entitled to enjoy whatever. I literally was talking about why I myself and only me in this instance am choosing not to participate in something. I'm going to use opinion-based language when explaining that. If your problem is that I didn't say "But it's totally okay for everyone to like what they like!" after every post when I constantly try to explain to people elsewhere that it's fine to have whatever opinion on whatever genre or medium you want, then you clearly don't know me as a user.

And yes, I have a problem being called a dick for this. I CONSTANTLY at my shop push every single item I have. And that includes Sailor Moon stuff. And that includes Dragon Ball stuff. I try to encourage every customer in pursuing whatever story engages them. Like, that is my schtick. So when you say I'm crying about it (which is really, essentially a troll tactic to push me to continue talking about this), you're not accurate. I'm saying "I know this is something that causes a negative feedback loop for me. Here is why - I have these opinions and they start said loop". I'm pointing out my mindset and why breaking that pattern is for the best. As you can see, I engage too often. I'm a very defensive person. That's a natural attitude for me. I'm literally explaining in that post my point of view and nothing else. If my personal opinion about something is that it's trash and that opinion is a factor in something else, I'm going to explain that as a reason why I don't do something. This really isn't that difficult to understand. In the million of Star Wars topics, for example, I've always participated but never really said, "Hey having that opinion is terrible." I don't believe that's okay.

Essentially, you're focused on Sailor Moon and I'm focused on me. I didn't choose not to play because of Sailor Moon. I chose not to play because of me. I'm not decrying Sailor Moon at all. I'm talking about myself and you're caught up in the wording of a guy who is not even that talented at writing.
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scarletspeed7
07/02/18 12:22:05 PM
#55:


Gatarix posted...
for what it's worth I am probably gonna main Constantine

but I am probably going to co-main Stupendous Man, from Calvin & Hobbes, because I love Calvin & Hobbes. so maybe I'm just proving your point

I mean, in a sense, yes. But it's not like I hold your opinions against you. I really feel like I'm being demonized because I don't want to play an opinion game in a particular instance where opposing opinions actually do bother me a lot. Like, I'm sure @Zigzagoon understands not wanting to participate in a contest like this.

EDIT: I guess the lesson is that I shouldn't have brought up what I blocked in the first place :(
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Underleveled
07/02/18 12:23:01 PM
#56:


scarletspeed7 posted...
never really said, "Hey having that opinion is terrible." I don't believe that's okay.

You called it "frivolous and meritless" so it's easy to see why it was interpreted that way though.
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Gatarix
07/02/18 12:23:53 PM
#57:


yeah I'm not demonizing you - it's a game and if you don't find it fun, don't play
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scarletspeed7
07/02/18 12:24:22 PM
#58:


Underleveled posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
never really said, "Hey having that opinion is terrible." I don't believe that's okay.

You called it "frivolous and meritless" so it's easy to see why it was interpreted that way though.

Okay, then I will apologize again for not being the most articulate person in the world or not realizing that I alone on this board need to preface my opinions constantly with "If you have an opposing opinion it's okay" even though the post clearly is not about Sailor Moon and clearly about me. Again.
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CelesMyUserName
07/02/18 12:24:52 PM
#59:


what is this now
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scarletspeed7
07/02/18 12:27:03 PM
#60:


Gatarix posted...
yeah I'm not demonizing you - it's a game and if you don't find it fun, don't play

I'm sorry. I'm getting worked up because I've always gone to great lengths to be inclusive of people on this board and I fail at it dramatically every time. I'll stop posting about it because I clearly am either really not explaining myself well or just pissing people off with what I'm saying, and either way, I'm doing exactly what I was trying to avoid in the first place and creating a negative feedback loop. I'm really sorry, redrocket, if I offended you that much and I'll just apologize for it and exit with what little dignity I have left.
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mnkboy907
07/02/18 12:27:21 PM
#61:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Underleveled posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
never really said, "Hey having that opinion is terrible." I don't believe that's okay.

You called it "frivolous and meritless" so it's easy to see why it was interpreted that way though.

Okay, then I will apologize again for not being the most articulate person in the world or not realizing that I alone on this board need to preface my opinions constantly with "If you have an opposing opinion it's okay" even though the post clearly is not about Sailor Moon and clearly about me. Again.

I think you should just realize that if you're going to be particularly negative about something popular, you're very likely to get people focusing on that negativity and responding accordingly.
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Underleveled
07/02/18 12:31:24 PM
#62:


Honestly scarlet, I'm not even a fan of Sailor Moon, not one iota, never seen an episode and it doesn't interest me in the slightest. But the way you said it certainly wasn't "going to great lengths to be inclusive." Even if it wasn't your intention (and I don't think it was), the whole post sounded very elitist. And that's why people are getting worked up.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/02/18 12:33:59 PM
#63:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Okay, then I will apologize again for not being the most articulate person in the world or not realizing that I alone on this board need to preface my opinions constantly with "If you have an opposing opinion it's okay" even though the post clearly is not about Sailor Moon and clearly about me. Again.


is this really so hard to understand? no, you do NOT have to preface your opinions with this. the problem is that you're claiming that people who vote for sailor moon don't take the contest as seriously as people who vote for john constantine (which redrocket told you like 86 posts ago). that's kind of a ridiculous statement to make about people who vote for a beloved character from a very popular franchise. nobody would have complained if you'd used the farmer with a shotgun from dragon ball z as an example or something, but with the example you used you were definitely acting like you're superior in a certain way to other participants in the contest. to then backpedal and go "geez i'm just sharing my opinions" is weak.
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XIII_rocks
07/02/18 12:36:41 PM
#64:


Yeah I didn't think the post was bad at all until you got to that Sailor Moon part

Wasn't bothered enough to comment on it though, until now when it became a thing. Rest of the post was fine, then I was like "oh." It almost comes off like you really wanted to just make that criticism of both SM and the board's taste and the rest of the post was to disguise it and take the edge off, or something.

And I'm not necessarily saying that was your intention, it's just really bad wording. Honestly it feels like a nasty little streak of bitterness leaking out.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/02/18 12:37:18 PM
#65:


also stupendous man is an excellent character
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Gatarix
07/02/18 12:41:12 PM
#66:


^5 lasa
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redrocket
07/02/18 12:42:24 PM
#67:


To be clear, I'm not even mad. Just because I found hilarity in thw pretentiousness of that one post doesn't mean I think you're a horrible user!
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scarletspeed7
07/02/18 12:54:15 PM
#68:


This all right here is exactly why I don't participate in Save Mys like this anymore. I'm trying to explain in my own words, as best as I can, why something that is clearly abberrant thought from other people is a negative. I keep trying to explain it more and more clearly because I'm not the best with words and all I get is more fuel on the fire I guess because all I wanted to do was explain that something stupid that shouldn't get me worked up gets me worked up. And all it's done is work me up even worse because my honesty about Save Mys provoking a Pavlovian response of over-aggressiveness was not written in a way in which it wasn't problematic. I know that right now I'm just making things worse. And yet, I'm compelled to try harder to explain that Sailor Moon isn't even the thing. Yet everything I say just seems to propel this whole fucking Sailor Moon situation like that was the reason I stopped participating.

Note that I'm not saying I'm a victim here or that you all have done something you shouldn't. It's just interesting how it mirrors.

I stopped playing in these a while ago because of Save My Undead. Sailor Moon is an example. If you named any non-comic thing, it would bother me to some extent. Because my mindset in Save Mys gets super-competitive.

I really am asking this from the bottom of my heart, guys. Like, I know I'm a worthless fucking user. I get that. All I wanted was to share about how something causes me to spiral into a weird, pointless depression for no discernable reason because of this irrational attitude I have about something. Because it's not a healthy attitude to have; I was trying to show that a blocked something for a similar reason to why I blocked Ulti. I just wanted to talk about how when I have these unhealthy responses to things that don't reflect me when I'm not piqued emotionally, it's best for me to excise those things from my daily board viewing habits. Instead, because of one sentence, that's been ignored. I appreciate that you all want to explain how that sentence was the problem, but instead of maybe offering other feedback on something that literally causes me grief, I've found the opposite. I never find any support on this board outside of the guys in gauntlet crew and sporadically like wrestling topics. And I don't mean support for my opinions. That's whatever. They're opinions.

I was hoping that maybe sharing that would maybe be a little eye-opening on why I quit Save Mys. It brought out the worst person in me, and it propelled negative ideology. I'm not "backpedaling". I'm just trying to explain that this one sentence is a demonstration of how my thinking gets in Save Mys. I know I'm not the most intellectual user with the best grasp of grammar. I wasn't trying to stir anything up. I appreciate that you all wanted to leap to the defense of something you care about, just as I was talking about with comics.

My issue, I guess, is that I can't let go of things and that I'm not very well-spoken. I'm a stupid and overly passionate person. I can see these things from a distance. When I try to explain them, I fail. I respect that other people disagree with how I explained myself.

I'm sorry I've let so many of you on this board down with my comments. I just wanted to talk about something that's been a problem for me. I got defensive at the response, and I'll apologize again.

I just wish that one time when I post stuff like this, someone would maybe understand a little bit, but I wouldn't want to presume that anyone else would. I'm a bit weird, I realize. Hell, I got upset at the slycooper alt for no reason. I got upset when cyclo called me the worst user on the board. I get too engaged and can be overly sensitive.

I'm sure this is just as incoherent, and I really should have stopped when I wanted to. I don't think what I expect of the board is reasonable nor realistic and I certainly don't meet the standards of the board in a lot of respects.
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Underleveled
07/02/18 1:00:13 PM
#70:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Like, I know I'm a worthless fucking user. I get that.

Not even remotely. I honestly get the feeling of not wanting to participate in a contest because it's clear that your favorites aren't going to win, I get it. It's just that the way you worded it sounded very much like you were invalidating all opinions other than your own, and then go on to say that you want to be "all inclusive."

I don't think it was Sailor Moon either. That was just the example that you used. It could have been Mr. Incredible or Viewtiful Joe or any other non-comic character that has a legitimate backing and every right to be in the contest and it would have gotten the same response.
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tazzyboyishere
07/02/18 1:00:33 PM
#71:


When I quit VGMC I totally shat on the userbase. It was great.

On topic, as dumb and bad as Ulti is, he's pretty on point with the literal obssession thing. This topic and all the others are kinda silly.
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pjbasis
07/02/18 1:02:19 PM
#72:


I actually enjoy your long posts scarlet.

Unlike you, I give up way too easily or find explaining long complicated thought processes too much work to explain to others, especially if it's not "important."
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Lopen
07/02/18 1:08:18 PM
#73:


scarletspeed7 posted...
It brought out the worst person in me, and it propelled negative ideology.


And what better way to illustrate this than to decry poor innocent Sailor Moon.

I think you expressed yourself better than even you expected...!

Seriously though... there are worse things than to be called pretentious once in a while. Don't worry about it.

I think the big issue of misunderstanding, more than Sailor Moon in particular, was you using your insult thesaurus to say "equally frivolous and meritless" because if you're using that expression it does imply that whatever is on the other side lacks some sort of value objectively rather than it just being something you don't personally like much.

And to further aggravate the situation, when you're talking something like Super Heroes, for anyone who isn't as super into the medium as you are, it's going to come off as ridiculous because for a lot of people the entire genre could come off as "frivolous"-- so what I'm saying is to call Sailor Moon that implies a lot more for those kind of people than to someone like you.
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Gatarix
07/02/18 1:09:29 PM
#74:


scarletspeed7 posted...
I'm trying to explain in my own words, as best as I can, why something that is clearly abberrant thought from other people is a negative.

Nah, I get you.

It's like in SMFFFC when Rosa or Hope or someone gets saved, and I'm like "WOW that worthless piece of trash lives another day" except I don't actually say it out loud. All you did was say out loud what, I'm guessing, a lot of people think. (Or maybe just me?)

Then I probably forget about it five minutes later. But if you find yourself stewing on it a lot, avoiding the contest seems like a good move.
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pjbasis
07/02/18 1:15:35 PM
#75:


Gatarix posted...
It's like in SMFFFC when Rosa or Hope or someone gets saved, and I'm like "WOW that worthless piece of trash lives another day" except I don't actually say it out loud. All you did was say out loud what, I'm guessing, a lot of people think. (Or maybe just me?)


Eh, there is a difference between just a matter of opinion and something a little stronger. I think it's more like "Squall is my favorite guy, he inspired my life in a time when I really needed to relate to quiet guy that no one understood and then he loses to Rikku because her fans just like cute bubbly archetypes".

Having that thought process could make me upset, whereas in Save my Pokemon I wouldn't really care. I like Bulbasaur in about the same manner anyone can like a Pokemon.

PS: that's not actually my thought process in smfffc, but it could have been if I was someone more invested in that kind of thing.
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XIII_rocks
07/02/18 1:17:25 PM
#76:


Like I said, scarlet, that post was absolutely fine and I totally understood it. I was similar for a long time with Save Mys and I'm a little better about it now I think. Wanting to check out because it's just getting frustrating makes a lot of sense to me. That doesn't make you worthless or something, obviously.

Just watch your wording when you're going to insult something a lot of people like, I guess.
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pjbasis
07/02/18 1:18:00 PM
#77:


I guess what I do think is that I take stories more seriously than others, and it's why I tend to like main characters more.

People want to just pick randos for "muh identity" when I care more about who served the story best.
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Lopen
07/02/18 1:19:21 PM
#78:


pjbasis posted...
People want to just pick randos for "muh identity" when I care more about who served the story best.


Probably more pretentious than Scarlet's Sailor Moon dis btw
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Mr Lasastryke
07/02/18 1:20:02 PM
#79:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Like, I know I'm a worthless fucking user. I get that.


of course you're not.

i don't mean to be condescending but if you conclude that you're a "worthless fucking user" just because people had a problem with one of your posts and were a bit annoyed by the way you were acting subsequently, it's probably better if you don't participate in these kinds of arguments anymore. it seems to me like you're taking this stuff way too personally.
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pjbasis
07/02/18 1:27:09 PM
#80:


Lopen posted...
pjbasis posted...
People want to just pick randos for "muh identity" when I care more about who served the story best.


Probably more pretentious than Scarlet's Sailor Moon dis btw


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scarletspeed7
07/02/18 1:46:04 PM
#81:


I shouldn't have said I'm a worthless user. That was all a rush of emotional posting and while some of it has merit, that line was overreactionary.

Lopen posted...
And to further aggravate the situation, when you're talking something like Super Heroes, for anyone who isn't as super into the medium as you are, it's going to come off as ridiculous because for a lot of people the entire genre could come off as "frivolous"-- so what I'm saying is to call Sailor Moon that implies a lot more for those kind of people than to someone like you.

And that's totally fine! I get that I have a weird obsession with superheroes. That was kind of the point to begin with. These overly strong reactions are what I'm talking about. Because, outside of competitive forum games, I don't feel that way. I might have more clinical observations about something, but not these visceral compunctions. Unless it's for comedic effect in a write-up or something.

XIII_rocks posted...
Like I said, scarlet, that post was absolutely fine and I totally understood it. I was similar for a long time with Save Mys and I'm a little better about it now I think. Wanting to check out because it's just getting frustrating makes a lot of sense to me. That doesn't make you worthless or something, obviously.

Just watch your wording when you're going to insult something a lot of people like, I guess.

Boy I've learned that the hard way today.

Gatarix posted...
It's like in SMFFFC when Rosa or Hope or someone gets saved, and I'm like "WOW that worthless piece of trash lives another day" except I don't actually say it out loud. All you did was say out loud what, I'm guessing, a lot of people think. (Or maybe just me?)

Then I probably forget about it five minutes later. But if you find yourself stewing on it a lot, avoiding the contest seems like a good move.

It's weird because I don't stew on things in real life. The owner of the shop tells me I should fire people more often and that I'm too forgiving, but on the board I feel like I just operate differently. Just, I don't know what psychological motivation makes me Mr. Nasty but it does.

pjbasis posted...
Eh, there is a difference between just a matter of opinion and something a little stronger. I think it's more like "Squall is my favorite guy, he inspired my life in a time when I really needed to relate to quiet guy that no one understood and then he loses to Rikku because her fans just like cute bubbly archetypes".

This is the style of mindset that becomes pervasive for me, and it's a palpably emotional reaction. When I'm not playing these games, I am much less negative. Like, in SMFFFC I hate so many things that, when I play the games, I actually am neutral to. I don't hate Tidus. In fact, I'm pretty neutral to him. But in SMFFFC I fucking hate the guy, my reasons are totally sensical, you can't prove me otherwise. I can't even explain it. It's Doctor Scarlet and Mr. Speed.

Also I'm probably going to block Lasa so Ulti will have some company for the next few weeks.
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CelesMyUserName
07/02/18 1:50:22 PM
#82:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Like, in SMFFFC I hate so many things that, when I play the games, I actually am neutral to. I don't hate Tidus. In fact, I'm pretty neutral to him. But in SMFFFC I fucking hate the guy, my reasons are totally sensical, you can't prove me otherwise. I can't even explain it. It's Doctor Scarlet and Mr. Speed.

i get this with other characters
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Mr Lasastryke
07/02/18 1:51:02 PM
#83:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Also I'm probably going to block Lasa so Ulti will have some company for the next few weeks.


i'm sorry to hear that. do you want to tell me why? if you don't want to, i understand.
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mnkboy907
07/02/18 1:51:19 PM
#84:


I started getting that way with Celes in the bot contests. >_>
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CelesMyUserName
07/02/18 1:52:24 PM
#85:


mnkboy907 posted...
I started getting that way with Celes in the bot contests. >_>

I'm aware!

which made me get that way with Kefka _

but Vanille is another one although I get similarly with Vanille even out of smfffc
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Lopen
07/02/18 1:53:46 PM
#86:


mnkboy907 posted...
I started getting that way with Celes in the bot contests. >_>


So true.

And I don't even hate Lightning in the main contest either.
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neonreaper
07/02/18 1:58:51 PM
#87:


don't apologize to redrocket for breaking his Sailor Moon heart
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scarletspeed7
07/02/18 1:59:01 PM
#88:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
Also I'm probably going to block Lasa so Ulti will have some company for the next few weeks.


i'm sorry to hear that. do you want to tell me why? if you don't want to, i understand.

When you posted

Mr Lasastryke posted...
it's probably better if you don't participate in these kinds of arguments anymore. it seems to me like you're taking this stuff way too personally.


I could tell that you either fundamentally didn't understand any of what has come before/my shortcomings as a user that I was trying to open up about OR you did and you just didn't give a fuck. And I'd like to stop dealing with people in the latter category on the board. I wouldn't block you even for this except for the fact that you and I share no common interests on the board that might result in me missing posts out of threads I care about. You don't participate in gauntlet/wrestling/comics topics really, so I would objectively not really miss your posts.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/02/18 2:02:39 PM
#89:


i said that as a response to your "worthless user" quote. i probably did misunderstand you but i do give a fuck. if i wouldn't have given a fuck i wouldn't have made that post.
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NFUN
07/02/18 2:06:29 PM
#90:


Disclaimer: I skipped most of the posts in the second half of the topic because I got bored.

One thing I've noticed (on this board mostly, but it probably applies in general too) is that people get more defensive and offended about somebody disliking something the more articulate the person is who dismisses it. If you casually trash something people feel comfortable reacting with "well that's just, like, your opinion, man", and don't pay it much heed. But when an argument is erudite and eloquent, regardless of how important the media in question is to the greater whole of the debate, people tend to feel (at least how I see it) that a good deal of effort and thought has been put into destroying their or someone's else's beloved, and take it more personally without good cause.

I've seen people trash Sailor Moon a dozen times here. I've seen so many works derided as schlock or overrated or garbage, yet the vast majority of the time people who like those media are reasonable in response, or just don't care. The only times I really see people get more than a little upset at another opinion is when scarlet posts something, when somebody else makes a well thought-out point, or when I state my Marvel opinions (and I'm a little purposefully iconoclastic).

people, chill. it was an opinion. you dont need to feel so attacked because he put fancy words and well-constructed grammar around it. I promise you that there are 30 other users here that fucking hate sailor moon too. fixate on them if you must
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crazygamer999
07/02/18 2:14:19 PM
#91:


Yes, but that doesn't make a spectacle.
Dealing with a bored user that doesn't give a damn? Boring, no one notices.

Now trying to fight a well-articulated arguement? Now that makes news. Win and you actually have legitimacy. Lose? Sure, a lot will see how terrible your arguements are and ridicule, but you will have the vocal minority who just care that you chose their side and got martyred for it.
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VeryInsane
07/02/18 2:19:53 PM
#92:


I really dont care about Save My results anymore because opinions mean nothing
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07/02/18 2:20:04 PM
#93:


I think that's dumbing down the fundamental issue with his post a lot.

There are in fact ways to use words longer than 6 letters and generally not come off as pretentious while doing so.
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crazygamer999
07/02/18 2:24:02 PM
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Eh
Ignoring can just mean that they won against you sometimes, in their eyes
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scarletspeed7
07/02/18 2:31:03 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
i said that as a response to your "worthless user" quote. i probably did misunderstand you but i do give a fuck. if i wouldn't have given a fuck i wouldn't have made that post.

Admittedly it fell in a deluge of posts all saying the same thing and really not actually looking at what I was trying to say (which you already had been a part of), so I wasn't that interested in parsing you as separate from the crowd since the crowd wasn't interested in parsing out the thoughts in my post at that point. I won't block you right now because I've calmed down a lot from earlier (I'm sure the world was waiting with bated breath to hear the results of the potential blocking).

One thing I've noticed about the board from this, really, is there is a syndrome of trying to take apart the easiest aspect of an argument because it's generally afraid of or disinterested in, the more complicated aspects. Sometimes arguments can't be won like they are debates. I've said this a lot on the board over the year, but we have to find a little grace in ourselves on this board if we want to be good neighbors, you know? If someone posts in good faith, we should either respond in kind or not at all. I know when I lost my previous job, I made a long-winded post. I got an immediate deluge of armchair quarterbacks who couldn't wait to reiterate that I had made a mistake (which I freely admitted). What I needed was support. I eventually found it. There were several users (a couple are even in this thread) who offered constructive help or just a "Hey, that sucks, I'm sorry".

I thought about that over the last few minutes and compared it to this instance, and the similarity is haunting. There is a natural predisposition to win on this board. Not every post is an argument or a debate. Sometimes it's a cry for help. It's a call for assistance, and the board just doesn't immediately latch on to that.

Some of that is my posting style, which we've been over ad nauseum, but my point is that we as a board are all party to sometimes ignoring the character and content of a post and cherry-picking a piece of it in order to find a victory when there is no victory to be had. And it must be quite a hollow one when a person is trying to talk about why they quit doing something that has been a large facet of board experience and you're all talking about how their diseased mindset they're decrying in the post is a diseased mindset.

I'm not absolving myself of blame, of course. I didn't explain that Sailor Moon example as eloquently as I could have (namely clearly citing it as an example of the thinking that bothered me and spiraled further).

To tell you the truth, I have forum games blocked and I don't even know if it's in the contest. I blocked it as soon as charon said Superheroes was the next category up.
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VeryInsane
07/02/18 2:56:50 PM
#97:


Hi scarlet

Watching anything good lately?
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scarletspeed7
07/02/18 2:59:14 PM
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VeryInsane posted...
Hi scarlet

Watching anything good lately?

Just finished Season 2 of GLOW! I've also been watching Veep for the first time. I'm really loving it.
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Big Bob
07/02/18 3:32:30 PM
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but he's changed guys seriously he said so himself
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Umbreon
07/02/18 3:35:50 PM
#100:


crazygamer999 posted...
Eh
Ignoring can just mean that they won against you sometimes, in their eyes


The thing about this is...

These types of people have egos so massive(yet starved) that even acknowledging them can be considered a "win". They "win" because they can prove to you that they exist. Best to just ignore them and let them have their meaningless victory.

There's not enough time in the day to deal with such people. If there is, you need to value your time more imo.
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