Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 12: Book 2

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barreldragon88
12/21/17 11:38:06 PM
#401:


The BHB maps really were made for Flier Emblem (FE). As tempting as it is to put Rauorblade on HNowi, I am really liking Grimmoire on her as it allows her to do some cool positioning shenanigans. At the same time, Tharja doesn't really need the extra merge since she doesn't get used very much.
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Yankees
12/22/17 11:17:39 AM
#402:


Masked Marth is back as the TT trial reward character. Boring
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barreldragon88
12/22/17 4:12:33 PM
#403:


What.. the... fuck... why??!
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WhiteLens
12/22/17 7:10:49 PM
#404:


Gotta let those newer players have a chance at getting her!

...or people like me who didn't bother like the first 2 times she showed up.

Joshua is literally the first time I got a TT reward character.
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greengravy294
12/22/17 7:13:00 PM
#405:


you dont even play games anyway
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WickIebee
12/22/17 8:06:45 PM
#406:


I mean... it's her third time being a TT character.

Meanwhile, I need another Clive TT to try and get a second 5* and see if he sucks just a little bit less that way.
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Terastodon
12/22/17 8:10:43 PM
#407:


The real kicker is she has 0 skills.

So she has such minimal value.
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barreldragon88
12/23/17 7:05:58 PM
#408:


And my second free 5* is ... +Spd/-Res CRobin! I think I got the best nature for him, so I couldn't ask for more. My luck with free 5* has been good. Both times have given me the best nature for the unit.

Now I can save up orbs to go for Nowi or the Legendary Banner.
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Yankees
12/23/17 8:18:37 PM
#409:


+Spd/-Res sounds like his best nature to me. Congrats

It's probably not worth pulling for a 4* unit. I'd wait for the legendary banner or possible new years banner.
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barreldragon88
12/23/17 9:22:33 PM
#410:


Yea, I really want a super Nowi for my arena core, but I know she can be pulled while going for other focus blues.
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TsunamiXXVIII
12/24/17 3:29:32 AM
#411:


greengravy294 posted...
Only hero I'd realistically even scratch +10 is probably Eirika and Marth. And Bow Lyn since the game keeps giving her to me (mostly kidding)


Yeah Bowlyn is my highest one, too.
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Dark Young Link
12/26/17 3:05:27 AM
#412:


So it turns out I can use my phone so long as it's charged up at all times. yay >_>

Only had 90ish orbs so I rolled on the banner.

An unusual amount of 3*s considering the rates. Got pity broken by Soren. zzzz

Gonna try to collect enough orbs to try again, but otherwise it's not looking good.

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Yankees
12/26/17 11:16:21 AM
#413:


Merry Christmas. Hopefully you at least got some decent fodder.

Heavy Blade seal. That's unexpected. Supposedly, mages can use the seal despite not being able to inherit Ike's. Reinhardt can get constant moonbows, and Siegbert can do Roy's job better now. I'll be upgrading this one as soon as I get it
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barreldragon88
12/26/17 11:28:39 PM
#414:


Heavy Blade on Rein sounds pretty delicious and scary at the same time.
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Xuxon
12/27/17 12:36:42 AM
#415:


mages can inherit heavy blade. i just checked.

blade tome does seem like a good combo for it. maybe with astra. black knight seems like he'd be good with it as well, though that wouldn't synergize too well with vantage.
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Yankees
12/27/17 12:51:20 AM
#416:


I thought I ready otherwise on heavy blade, but you're right. Dragon Fang is probably better than Astra for them. I rarely feel like I need their special to trigger to kill something. Galeforce would have been nice if it was accessible.

It might be pretty good on Ephraim now with his guaranteed double. Or you can just through in on a brave user like Cherche.
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KamikazePotato
12/27/17 1:13:11 AM
#417:


Don't think Heavy Blade synergizes with anyone I use. It's a defense-oriented team so no one has particularly high attack.
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Kenri
12/27/17 3:37:41 AM
#418:


So info on the upcoming legendary banner is out. The new character is a green tome cavalry that seems pretty strong so RIP my 10+ Cecilia project. I guess I should be thankful I only sank 60k feathers into her so far.

The other units are Sigurd, Brave Roy, Ryoma, Spring Lucina, Bride Charlotte, Fjorm, Spring Chrom, Amelia, Bride Lyn, Innes, and Elise. There's only like one I want from each category personally but it seems pretty good if you don't have many of them? idk

On the bright side I pulled again on the Christmas banner and got Hypothermia Tharja and Dorcas so who needs an 8% banner anyway
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KamikazePotato
12/27/17 3:41:48 AM
#419:


I'm unable to look at banners the way I was before. I see all these good characters and my response is "there's no way I'll get enough of these to justify Tier 20 Arena usage". Most of them don't offer good Skill Inheritance either.
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Kenri
12/27/17 4:07:27 AM
#420:


Is there even any advantage to staying in tier 20 other than the extra orb/feathers? It seems like way more effort than it's worth unless it's just the fun part of the game for you.
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KamikazePotato
12/27/17 4:15:34 AM
#421:


It's really the endpoint of the game for me. Like what else is there to do in FEH if you're not trying to make strong Arena teams? I did all the quests and story mode and chain challenges ect. The occasional Infernal Bound Hero Battle is fun but infrequent. Stuff like Tempest Trials is just a pure timesink without any depth.

Plus I do find it to be a lot of fun. Especially since the 2.0 update. I see a lot less horses and a lot more interesting team comps.
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Kenri
12/27/17 4:25:49 AM
#422:


I guess that's the difference. I took a break for a couple months, so there's some PvE stuff I still haven't done. But just in general it's hard for me to care too much about the arena since, at least at tier 19 (I've never broken into 20), it's super easy and has no real depth. It seems like the meta right now is more around squeezing out extra stat points than the actual gameplay too.
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Xuxon
12/27/17 8:01:47 AM
#423:


KamikazePotato posted...
Like what else is there to do in FEH if you're not trying to make strong Arena teams?

and this is why my activity in the game has dropped to almost nothing. i've always been more completionist than competitive.
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Yankees
12/27/17 11:07:58 AM
#424:


Any green tome cavalier was bound to powercreep Cecilia. She'll still be really good for the raven/TA build.

I'm not really feeling this banner. The new character shares a color with two units I don't want at all. Everyone there that I want, I already have and it's impractical to build a high merge 5*. I think I'll complete the free summon session and then wait for Brave Ike to share a color with the new mage on a legendary banner.
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Kenri
12/27/17 12:35:42 PM
#425:


Yankees posted...
Any green tome cavalier was bound to powercreep Cecilia.

True but there aren't any others in the actual series so I didn't expect it so soon. *shrug* I'm not actually upset or anything, it's just kinda annoying.
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Lopen
12/27/17 12:44:40 PM
#426:


I wish the blizzard tome could be inherited-- I mean with a generic name like that you'd think it'd be able to but they never are.

That thing would be sick with my debuffing Matthew but I would want to put it on like Robin or something.
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barreldragon88
12/27/17 2:04:25 PM
#427:


The new banner feels like it has more duds than the previous. Interesting we are getting a new cavalry mage, which makes Bruno less special if we get him, but I dont want to risk getting Chrom. I super want Lyn, but dont want Innes and dont need another Elise >___>

Do we know when the banner is going live? Should be next couple days, right?
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greengravy294
12/27/17 2:29:48 PM
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Xuxon
12/27/17 2:36:13 PM
#429:


Kenri posted...
Yankees posted...
Any green tome cavalier was bound to powercreep Cecilia.

True but there aren't any others in the actual series so I didn't expect it so soon. *shrug* I'm not actually upset or anything, it's just kinda annoying.

i've always thought L'Arachel could end up green tome if she gets Ivaldi, since Julia and Deirdre are.

but yeah other than her i really can't think of anything. Azel, Miranda, Selena would be red. Arthur, Eyrios, Kempf would be blue. i guess there's some minor bosses that weren't important enough to get into the CYL poll. even among those i think Musar's the only one that uses wind.

Lopen posted...
I wish the blizzard tome could be inherited-- I mean with a generic name like that you'd think it'd be able to but they never are.

That thing would be sick with my debuffing Matthew but I would want to put it on like Robin or something.

i made a topic about this on the FEH board and got zero replies. a buyable steel-tier tome and they make it randomly legendary. i guess no one else cares.
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Yankees
12/27/17 2:47:01 PM
#430:


Blizzard and Tomahawk as legendaries don't me sense to me either. I guess Stout Tomahawk is a completely different story.

Characters haven't really been bound to their classes so far - especially when it comes to seasonal banners. Faye cannot be classed as an archer in Echoes, and Lucius as a healer is wrong. It's a matter of time before someone unexpectedly becomes a green mage cavalier.
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Xuxon
12/27/17 2:55:17 PM
#431:


with seasonals, all bets are off, but they haven't done too much with others. Lucius, Faye at best lead to things like Ewan, Miriel or the aforementioned L'Arachel as cav mages. or maybe one of those red or blues i mentioned could end up green like Narcian.
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Kenri
12/27/17 3:13:37 PM
#432:


Ricken might actually be the most fitting, he's a green mage and can promote to Dark Knight though it isn't his default. But yeah it's not like I never expected another green cavalier, just that I didn't really expect one in 2017.
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Yankees
12/27/17 10:49:33 PM
#433:


6Y6stJx

Azura and Takumi for the new year's banner? Might be our first flying archer
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greengravy294
12/27/17 10:51:19 PM
#434:


I'm not even salty it's gonna be a Hoshidan new years banner considering that Birthright is FE Feudal Japan Edition
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greengravy294
12/27/17 10:53:21 PM
#435:


In other good news I'm up to Eirika 5*+5

I just need more feathers for +6 and then 4 more of her!!!!
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Yankees
12/27/17 11:12:33 PM
#436:


Which nature did you go with? I will probably build merges on my Eirika too since I've gotten a lot of her. Best I have is +Atk -Def
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Team Rocket Elite
12/27/17 11:29:05 PM
#437:


g7PGz15

Azura is apparently a Flying Dancer.
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Xuxon
12/27/17 11:32:19 PM
#438:


interesting, Azura didn't get increased BST. i guess because she's technically the first of her type, though fliers have the same BST as infantry.
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Team Rocket Elite
12/27/17 11:39:25 PM
#439:


Yeah. Flying Dancer Azura has pretty much the same stat total as normal Azura. She has the Dancer stat penalty and she doesn't have the recent unit stat buffs.
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Lopen
12/27/17 11:42:32 PM
#440:


A flying dancer is kinda OP. At least they realize that much.
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greengravy294
12/27/17 11:53:18 PM
#441:


Yankees posted...
Which nature did you go with? I will probably build merges on my Eirika too since I've gotten a lot of her. Best I have is +Atk -Def

I'm still weighing my options but I'm pretty sure my Eirika is +ATK/-RES

I faced off in Arena against a +6 Eirika tonight ironically with her on my team who I believe was +SPD and -RES as well. I kinda think +SPD is probably alot worse than +ATK. My Eirika with Fury 3 has 40 SPD which is more or less able to double like almost every unit in the game or whatever.
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Xuxon
12/27/17 11:53:23 PM
#442:


https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/sites/fireemblem/files/2017-12/Gunnthra__New_years_lv_40_stats.jpg

Gunnthra doesn't have increased stats either. and only 25 res for a ploy unit. now that's really weird. relying on fortress res and/or fortify cavalry i guess (actually, do buffs even matter for ploys?). though i guess most people would probably just replace both skills.
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greengravy294
12/27/17 11:57:22 PM
#443:


gunnthra is actually balanced like her sister

legendary hero banner is more or less a super bait banner if you pull anything besides reds I think.

edit: basically unless you want more Ryoma's for merge or whatever (or if you don't own Brave Roy/Sigurd like me :( ). it's probably completely skippable unless you want BB lyn or charlotte or spring lucina/chrom.
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mcflubbin
12/27/17 11:58:23 PM
#444:


Why Camilla and not Ryoma or Hinoka? IS plz
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Lopen
12/28/17 12:00:34 AM
#445:


Gunnthra's stats being not inflated is probably a sign we'll get a free one of her as well. Which is cool, I guess.
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barreldragon88
12/28/17 12:02:11 AM
#446:


Just when you thought PA Azura was broken, we now get a flying version of her. I don't know why they couldn't make her a red for variety, but it makes it easier to pull for her.

Prince of Soup...? WTF. Corrin is looking pretty bad with that Spd.
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greengravy294
12/28/17 12:07:44 AM
#447:


I'd be pleasantly surprised if Gunnthra was a free unit. Guess we'll know in what, under 2 hours. I have a hunch there might be a new story chapter tonight too (I haven't looked at datamines besides the new character portraits and statz)
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Xuxon
12/28/17 12:08:04 AM
#448:


greengravy294 posted...
edit: basically unless you want more Ryoma's for merge or whatever (or if you don't own Brave Roy/Sigurd like me :( ). it's probably completely skippable unless you want BB lyn or charlotte or spring lucina/chrom.

opposite for me. i don't own Ryoma and want more Sigurd merges (maybe just 1 merge for BRoy that isn't -spd).

though probably not enough to go beyond the first session on this banner (i don't have any orbs anyway because i got baited by Rhajat and Tharja).
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Lopen
12/28/17 12:10:39 AM
#449:


Corrin's stats honestly don't look too inflated either now that you point it out. He's only +4 on Virion which seems below the standard level of inflation at this point. Granted Virion has a lot more in HP which is of slightly lower value as a stat but IS has never really balanced around that anyway as far as raw totals go.

(making that comparison because their stat totals are actually pretty similar-- I might prefer Virion just because he can run Panic Ploy)

Though upon looking into it I guess bows have been better about keeping stat totals more in line than say swords.
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barreldragon88
12/28/17 12:18:08 AM
#450:


lol Virion
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