Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 415: Feel the GLOW. On Netflix.

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Welfare Queen for Smackdown champ.

Previously on APWT... NBIceman goes Cornette on Yano!
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I think me going Cornette on Yano would be to say he's actually terrible and/or bad for NJPW/wrestling as a whole.

Yano's very good at what he does and the crowd loves him, and thus he has good value for New Japan. And there certainly are still times I get a kick out of his antics. But I don't really need to see 9 singles matches from him in the space of a month.
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I just wanted to dramatize the situation, get us some good heat going into the main event.
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I stand by my statement of NOFunman.
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Next week on Raw, Brock Lesnar probably doesn't show up

Next week on Smackdown, Baron Corbin's dick kicking tactics determine who gets to challenge The Great Khali and the Singh Brothers (featuring their manager, Jinder Mahal) in a 3 on 1 handicap match for the WWE title
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scarletspeed7 posted...

I just wanted to dramatize the situation, get us some good heat going into the main event.

Yeah, I didn't figure you were serious, but I also didn't think I made my point very well in the last topic so I just wanted to clarify.
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But seriously-- I may not watch as much New Japan as you, but I don't think I could ever get bored of Yano. I find his matches LESS formulaic than a lot of wrestlers. Hell even when he does the same trick a few times (in ROH last year he was overusing hitting dudes with a turnbuckle pad) I can still get into his matches.

Hell, Yano vs AJ Styles was actually one of my favorite matches in the Climax two years ago. And while I didn't see near all of it I saw a decent amount between watching part live and watching matches after the fact.

He's a great man.
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having never watched NJPW, it's supposed to be a fun promotion like Chikara, right? Seems like something I could see there.
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No NJPW is not like CHIKARA

You may be thinking of DDT

Yano's just a joke guy that exists in NJPW and does it without it seeming super out of place (mostly because, as I said, it's usually significantly more subtle than that clip-- though yeah given the opponent it still kinda works). Because he's great.
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Lopen posted...

But seriously-- I may not watch as much New Japan as you, but I don't think I could ever get bored of Yano. I find his matches LESS formulaic than a lot of wrestlers. Hell even when he does the same trick a few times (in ROH last year he was overusing hitting dudes with a turnbuckle pad) I can still get into his matches.

Hell, Yano vs AJ Styles was actually one of my favorite matches in the Climax two years ago. And while I didn't see near all of it I saw a decent amount between watching part live and watching matches after the fact.

He's a great man.

Hey, I recognize I'm in the minority here.

But as you pointed out, I watch a LOT of New Japan. When I was just getting into the company, I loved Yano too. But eventually I got to the point where I'm not really looking for comedy out of NJPW except on rare occasion, even if you're as good at it as Yano is. I have PWG and PROGRESS and other companies here and there for comedy. I go to New Japan for workrate.
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@Tom_Bombadil

Yes, Io has a hotter sister called Mio, who appears to like pole dancing.

Before she retired, she was also a much better wrestler.
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When did Mio pole dance and how did I miss that?
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NBIceman posted...

Lopen posted...

But seriously-- I may not watch as much New Japan as you, but I don't think I could ever get bored of Yano. I find his matches LESS formulaic than a lot of wrestlers. Hell even when he does the same trick a few times (in ROH last year he was overusing hitting dudes with a turnbuckle pad) I can still get into his matches.

Hell, Yano vs AJ Styles was actually one of my favorite matches in the Climax two years ago. And while I didn't see near all of it I saw a decent amount between watching part live and watching matches after the fact.

He's a great man.

Hey, I recognize I'm in the minority here.

But as you pointed out, I watch a LOT of New Japan. When I was just getting into the company, I loved Yano too. But eventually I got to the point where I'm not really looking for comedy out of NJPW except on rare occasion, even if you're as good at it as Yano is. I have PWG and PROGRESS and other companies here and there for comedy. I go to New Japan for workrate.

You can't assume everybody who watches NJPW also watches Progress and PWG though. NJPW fans need their comedy fix too.
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Well I mean I don't think he's something I'm going to 'grow out of' even as I watch more New Japan or anything. I don't watch a ton of it (time + effort barrier) but I watch enough to have a reasonable familiarity with the product and the rosters-- hell I think I've been a subscriber to NJPW World for as many months total as I've been a paid subscriber to the WWE Network. Yano, Ishii, and Naito are far and away the top 3 for me.

On that note I'm actually not a huge fan of oversaturation of comedy in wrestling feds. It can become tiresome-- can only watch the truly ridiculous stuff in bursts. I much much prefer a serious fed with very sparing use of comedy elements. That he's a comedy guy in a primarily non-comedy product and is able to be taken as vaguely credible is the appeal to me.

Anyway this has sorta gone off on a tangent due to not liking the connations behind "when I was just getting into the company" but yeah I'm just saying I don't think it's a bad thing to put a bit of variety in the product as long as you don't overdo it. Seen much much more distracting things in NJPW before in the past, like a 70 year old Abdullah the Butcher on one of the Wrestle Kingdom shows in a match.

Elgin being in the G1 is the one to be upset about imhhhho.
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JetJaguar posted...

NBIceman posted...

Lopen posted...

But seriously-- I may not watch as much New Japan as you, but I don't think I could ever get bored of Yano. I find his matches LESS formulaic than a lot of wrestlers. Hell even when he does the same trick a few times (in ROH last year he was overusing hitting dudes with a turnbuckle pad) I can still get into his matches.

Hell, Yano vs AJ Styles was actually one of my favorite matches in the Climax two years ago. And while I didn't see near all of it I saw a decent amount between watching part live and watching matches after the fact.

He's a great man.

Hey, I recognize I'm in the minority here.

But as you pointed out, I watch a LOT of New Japan. When I was just getting into the company, I loved Yano too. But eventually I got to the point where I'm not really looking for comedy out of NJPW except on rare occasion, even if you're as good at it as Yano is. I have PWG and PROGRESS and other companies here and there for comedy. I go to New Japan for workrate.

You can't assume everybody who watches NJPW also watches Progress and PWG though. NJPW fans need their comedy fix too.

I don't assume that. I made like three or four posts in which I mentioned that he's valuable to the company even if he's not personally my taste.

Lopen posted...

Well I mean I don't think he's something I'm going to 'grow out of' even as I watch more New Japan or anything. I don't watch a ton of it (time + effort barrier) but I watch enough to have a reasonable familiarity with the product and the rosters-- hell I think I've been a subscriber to NJPW World for as many months total as I've been a paid subscriber to the WWE Network. Yano, Ishii, and Naito are far and away the top 3 for me.

On that note I'm actually not a huge fan of oversaturation of comedy in wrestling feds. It can become tiresome-- can only watch the truly ridiculous stuff in bursts. I much much prefer a serious fed with very sparing use of comedy elements. That he's a comedy guy in a primarily non-comedy product and is able to be taken as vaguely credible is the appeal to me.

Anyway this has sorta gone off on a tangent due to not liking the connations behind "when I was just getting into the company" but yeah I'm just saying I don't think it's a bad thing to put a bit of variety in the product as long as you don't overdo it. Seen much much more distracting things in NJPW before in the past, like a 70 year old Abdullah the Butcher on one of the Wrestle Kingdom shows in a match.

Elgin being in the G1 is the one to be upset about imhhhho.

I didn't intend that to mean anything more than what it looks like on the surface, but I can see how you might construe it that way. It was just meant to be a personal admission that I got tired of him. I totally get why other people don't tire of him the same way.

I don't know what you've got against Elgin, though. He had the best or maybe second-best match of the tournament so far this year.
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I will be honest I haven't seen any of the current G1 yet but I've always thought Elgin was pretty bad. Maybe he's turned it around in a big way-- but I'm pretty sure you've been defending him for a while so I'm skeptical I'd be agreeing with that.

I'll probably know in a few months! (Which match was it btw since I don't think I'll be watching it front to back)
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vs Okada on Night 4. If you didn't care for him before, though, I won't be surprised if it doesn't connect with you.

Also, it might help to get my point across about Yano to mention that I didn't care for Nakamura a lot of the time while he was in NJPW either because he had such a habit of dogging it in all but the biggest matches. I skipped a fair amount of his G1 stuff as well. It's not just comedy that doesn't do it for me sometimes, laziness can take away from matches as well. But I would never question someone loving Nakamura or denying that he was huge for the company while he was still there.
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@NBIceman

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x303rfq

Shida on the other hand sucks.
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Oh, right, I remember that now.

Man, I miss Mio.
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You're a DG fan, right voltch?

Which unit do you figure is losing this survival league thing?
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Well it won't be Verserk or Tribe Vanguard.

Maximum are too new and if you're gonna try and give Doi the ball, don't cut his legs off now.

I just want Over Generation to be over already.

Jimmyz might be a longstanding stable, but without it, too many guys end up in the lurch.
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Hotter AND better wrestler? I feel like these are fighting words but you have my attention.
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I want Yano on a King of Trios team.
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muddersmilk posted...

I want Yano on a King of Trios team.

Yano, Eugene, Laurel van Ness
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Lesnar’s advocate Paul Heyman dropped the news on Twitter on Thursday afternoon: Brock will defend the Universal Championship against Samoa Joe this Saturday, July 29, at the Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, Michigan.

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Wait a second.

I'm going to next week's RAW... and they're going to have Roman vs Joe vs Strowman!?

They might be giving us a good main event!? Did WWE forget where RAW is going to be!?

I am, daresay, excited to go to RAW now for the show for the actual show for a change!
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Lopen posted...

No NJPW is not like CHIKARA

You may be thinking of DDT

I don't know either! Just asking based on the clip and the discussion.
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https://twitter.com/WNSource/status/890695785976877057

Kane looks like Nelson Muntz is about to drop a HA-HA on him
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https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/FvIwrjfudAAvaPbwRdjPZ6hP-Ws=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8943921/JQ0002.jpg

Want it?
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Buan Ruan Ruan Ruan Ruan Ruan Ruan away oh oh
Psycho Killer
Qu'est-ce que c'est
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Elias has become the most recent victim of the "Shortened name" disease.

Can his name just be El Vagabundo from this point forward, instead?
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I don't know why he can't be The Drifter still. That's an awesome nickname.

Just being "Elias" is death though.
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paulg235 posted...

Elias has become the most recent victim of the "Shortened name" disease.

Can his name just be El Vagabundo from this point forward, instead?

No because we don't want him to get over.
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How long until Dash and Dawson are just Dash and Dawson
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That's one I would totally be okay with.
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Top Guys vs. NERDS
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Slycooper can wrestle?
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http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/joe-louis-arena-best-wrestling-moments/

Detroit loves The Big Show
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The BIG SHOW?
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how long until Buddy Murphy becomes just Murphy?
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That probably won't happen before he is released.
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So Bo Dallas is insane.

Just listen to Talk is Jericho.
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I am craving some good wwe stuff

Whats your guys top 10 matches or segments on the network
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ScareChan posted...

I am craving some good wwe stuff

Whats your guys top 10 matches or segments on the network

I think Sultan has a topic for this
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If you want to go feel hype as hell go watch Summerslam 1991.

That whole event is super stupid but the commitment for each of the angles is out of this world.
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My first PPV I ever bought!
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Updating some databases I haven't touched in awhile

Charlotte knocked AJ Lee out of the all-time WWE Women's/Diva's Title Cumulative top ten

1.) Fabulous Moolah - 10,778 (674)
2.) Trish Stratus - 828
3.) Beth Phoenix - 571
4.) Alundra Blayze - 539
5.) Rockin' Robin - 502
6.) Michelle McCool - 496
7.) Wendi Richter - 449
8.) Mickie James - 445
9.) Sherri Martel - 441
10.) Charlotte Flair - 438
11.) AJ Lee - 406
12.) Melina - 398
13.) Ivory - 331
14.) Nikki Bella - 307
15.) Molly Holly - 301
16.) Layla - 271
17.) Maryse - 265
18.) Eve Torres - 260
19.) Victoria - 244
20.) Chyna - 214
21.) Alexa Bliss - 200+
22.) Sable - 176
23.) Jazz - 162
24.) Lita - 160
25.) Kaitlyn - 153
26.) Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley - 146
27.) Bull Nakano - 134
28.) Naomi - 126+
29.) Paige - 119
30.) Jacqueline - 117
31.) Candice Michelle - 105
32.) Kelly Kelly - 104
33.) Becky Lynch - 84
34.) Bayley - 76
35.) Sasha Banks - 74
36.) Brie Bella - 70
37.) Natalya - 70
38.) Bertha Faye - 57
39.) Alicia Fox - 56
40.) The Kat - 50
41.) Leilani Kai - 41
42.) Debra - 29
43.) Gail Kim - 28
44.) Velvet McIntyre - 6
45.) Hervina - 1
46.) Jillian Hall - 0
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1.) Fabulous Moolah - 10,778 (674)
2.) Trish Stratus - 828
3.) Beth Phoenix - 571

This is so goddamn ridiculous.
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Trish had about 6-7 reigns and Beth was the best person in a bad situation. It's not that nuts.
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I just mean the spread between 1 2 and 3

Dont really care who they are
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