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JaKyL25
01/17/12 7:49:00 PM
#151:


There's a thread on Other Feds where people are digging up posts on newsgroups from the '90s to see how smarks were then.

As someone who was actually on those newsgroups at the time, I just posted some of my contributions to them.

I think I've shared these with this topic before, but here's 18-year-old me in 1999's thoughts on wrestling. Not much different than the current me except the old me thinks he's much funnier than he really is:

"Good-bye, Owen"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.pro-wrestling/browse_thread/thread/92155888faf2b89/8ee2d511999a59d4#8ee2d511999a59d4

"Five Favorite Wrestlers in Each Company"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated/browse_thread/thread/b96dc72c948cadc4/8e09c89a3e7417ae?q=jakyl25#8e09c89a3e7417ae
(Oh my god I was SO FREAKING WITTY giving everyone a nickname in the middle of their name what a cool dude I am for real)
(You can also browse that thread to see other peoples' 1999 faves)

"Making Sense Out Of the Hummer Angle"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated/browse_thread/thread/6b06c6e783b920df/8141950a95440e05?q=jakyl25#8141950a95440e05

Well I tried to at least!

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Rad Link 5
01/17/12 7:49:00 PM
#152:


Undertaker vs Johnny Ace?

Maybe Undertaker vs Mankind?

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Rad Link 5
01/17/12 7:50:00 PM
#153:


From: JaKyL25 | #151
(Oh my god I was SO FREAKING WITTY giving everyone a nickname in the middle of their name what a cool dude I am for real)


We all think our past selves were the least funny and/or clever people to have ever existed when we read things we posted on the internet years ago.

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FFDragon
01/17/12 8:00:00 PM
#154:


4) Droz (he WILL be a star, damnit)

"whoops"

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SmartMuffin
01/17/12 8:02:00 PM
#155:


I tried to run an e-fed when I was like 13

results were... less than optimal...

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01/17/12 8:02:00 PM
#156:


From: JaKyL25 | #151
(Oh my god I was SO FREAKING WITTY giving everyone a nickname in the middle of their name what a cool dude I am for real)


I read through that and it reminded me of MWC

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bryans7
01/17/12 8:03:00 PM
#157:


Since this was a dark match before NXT/Smackdown tapings, I feel no shame in spoiling it:

Skip Sheffield went by the name Ryback.

1. What's a Ryback?

2. What about Yip Yip Yip What It Do? I was hoping for a tag-team of Skip and Ryder and dueling chants that made no sense. Sad.

3. His finisher was the Spear. Guess someone has to use it. SKIPBERG.

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SmartMuffin
01/17/12 8:04:00 PM
#158:


From: GTM | #156
I read through that and it reminded me of MWC


I'll bet MWC is the only person on this board whose writing from his teenage years is probably better than what he's producing now...

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JaKyL25
01/17/12 8:05:00 PM
#159:


From: GTM | #156
I read through that and it reminded me of MWC


Maybe that's why I actually don't mind talking wrestling with him. 0_o

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JaKyL25
01/17/12 8:10:00 PM
#160:


From: bryans7 | #157
1. What's a Ryback?


His old FCW gimmick pre-NXT

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01/17/12 8:12:00 PM
#161:


Tough Enough Contestant!

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MartinFF7
01/17/12 8:15:00 PM
#162:


According to his wiki page it looks like he keeps alternating between Skip and Ryback, heel and face. I guess they're testing out what works before he stops wrestling dark matches?

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JaKyL25
01/17/12 8:16:00 PM
#163:




Ryback on the loose.

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JaKyL25
01/17/12 8:36:00 PM
#164:


Okay B8, time for some conversation:

Wrestling storylines are often loaded with potential, and often fall well short of that potential.

What is, in your opinion, the greatest angle in wrestling history.

It's not about which one peaked the highest or had the coolest moment. I want to know which angle, from beginning to end, was executed the most perfectly, and had the most satisfying conclusion.

I'll throw out one of the obvious ones to start: The saga of Randy Savage and Miss Elizabeth.

Let's hear some more examples of sports entertainment at its absolute best.

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SmartMuffin
01/17/12 8:39:00 PM
#165:


The Invasion was good enough I suppose.

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JaKyL25
01/17/12 8:42:00 PM
#166:


The Invasion is not something I would have guessed anyone using as an example.

It's one of the very rare examples of an angle that had a great ending but was pretty crappy the entire rest of the way IMO.

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SmartMuffin
01/17/12 8:43:00 PM
#167:


Well I honestly can't think of many angles since I've been watching (attitude era) that actually ended properly and weren't rushed, aborted, or russo'd

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DeathChicken
01/17/12 8:43:00 PM
#168:


Invasion was amazing, right up until Stephanie got involved

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ScareChan
01/17/12 8:47:00 PM
#169:


I cant think of many angles period

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bryans7
01/17/12 8:48:00 PM
#170:


I remember enjoying the MVP/Matt Hardy US Title feud.

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01/17/12 8:50:00 PM
#171:


random answer: Muhammad Hassan

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01/17/12 8:51:00 PM
#172:


started out strong, ended before any real bad angles happened

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SmartMuffin
01/17/12 8:54:00 PM
#173:


From: GTM | #172
started out strong, ended before any real bad angles happened


Heh, it's sad that "ended before they could ruin it" is about the best we can hope for, these days!

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JaKyL25
01/17/12 8:55:00 PM
#174:


Raven vs. Tommy Dreamer

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels

Evolution

Kevin Steen vs. El Generico

just throwing stuff out there.

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edwardsdv
01/17/12 9:30:00 PM
#175:


I think I will back Evolution.

It started inauspiciously enough, but by the time it was over Trips the megaheel who buries everyone had established two hot new stars in Batista and Randy Orton.

Along the way you have their memorable holding of all the titles, their Loss at survivor series, lead to some cool moments, including Maven v. Trips and hell the whole raw that Mvaen booked, one ofthe best Raws of that era in my opinion ( I can still remember the whole night even now).

Their utter dominance had you just wanting Trips to die and I love when that happens since usually I cant help but like the heels more. When orton FINALLY won, it was just utter bliss and like watching a train wreck their downward spiral was every bit s satisfying as Trips run at the top was frustrating.

I mean, I am hardpressed to think of an angle that got going strong, had memorable moments throughout and SINGLEHANDEDLY made its product worth watching the way Evolution era Raw was made by that angle.

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edwardsdv
01/17/12 9:31:00 PM
#176:


Another great Angle:

Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar

It didnt run as long as evolution but for the period it was up and running MADE Smackdown what it was.

Also, just to be the first to say it:

Punk vs. hardy Summer 2009.

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EmDubyaSee
01/17/12 9:32:00 PM
#177:


Invasion. Best start ever, best end ever, and I personally had no problem watching Vince Bury WCW on the way to conclusion.

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FFDragon
01/17/12 9:53:00 PM
#178:


The Rise and Fall of Steenerico

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FFDragon
01/17/12 9:54:00 PM
#179:


oh

jakyl'd


...by an hour, christ.

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Lopen
01/17/12 10:56:00 PM
#180:


Things that come to mind without thinking too hard...

Jericho vs Shawn Michaels
MVP vs Matt Hardy
Jericho vs Dean Malenko
Trish Stratus vs Mickie James

I'm not sure whether I like that last one so much because it was a woman's storyline and those are never good and this managed to be good in spite of it but it's in the running for the best angle I can think of that didn't have its legs cut out from under it, didn't turn stupid, and wasn't sent rolling for so damn long you got sick of it. Most of my favorites are a victim of one of those so...

I have a feeling older stuff would do better as far as not getting their legs cut out/overdone but I can't in good faith vote those cause my PPV/product viewership pre-1996 is spotty enough that I'm not sure I got the whole gist of the feuds.

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Lopen
01/17/12 10:59:00 PM
#181:


Oh also I seem to remember enjoying the Jeff Jarrett vs Sting feud in late WCW but knowing how terrible the product was then I'm not sure that was because it was good or just "better than the other crap"

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edwardsdv
01/17/12 11:02:00 PM
#182:


My best "guilty pleasure" feud that i enjoyed for no reason has to be Sid vs. Nash in late WCW.

And I mean no reason, aside from like irredeemable Sid fanboyism.

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Dauntless Hunter
01/17/12 11:10:00 PM
#183:


I would say HBK/Vince was one of them, if only it had ended with the WM22 match. Unfortunately they dragged it out to that tag match with God at Backlash, and that was pretty lame.

I would however add HBK/Undertaker, taken as a whole from the WM25 build through the WM26 match and the farewell Raw the next night. Honestly the weakest part of that angle was probably the pre-WM25 build. If you recall, HBK spent almost the entire "Road to Wrestlemania" period in that nonsensical storyline where he lost all his money and had to work for JBL for some reason, and the whole Undertaker thing didn't even get started until after No Way Out.

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TVontheRadio
01/17/12 11:29:00 PM
#184:


Jericho vs Michaels, most definitely

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muddersmilk
01/18/12 7:55:00 AM
#185:


Jericho vs Michaels is probably my all time favorite feud. That feud got me back into wrestling for like 2 years.

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ScareChan
01/19/12 12:08:00 AM
#186:


When is the rumble? This sunday or next sunday

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Dr_Football
01/19/12 12:12:00 AM
#187:


Next Sunday

Always during the off week of the NFL playoffs

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voltch
01/19/12 12:14:00 AM
#188:


Should go head to head with the superbowl next time.

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Dauntless Hunter
01/19/12 1:03:00 AM
#189:


I wonder if Royal Rumble buyrates have gone down since they started having the Pro Bowl the same weekend.

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edwardsdv
01/19/12 2:49:00 AM
#190:


From: Dauntless Hunter | #189
I wonder if Royal Rumble buyrates have gone down since they started having the Pro Bowl the same weekend.


Like anyone cares about the pro Bowl

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muddersmilk
01/19/12 6:50:00 AM
#191:


I will be ordering the Royal Rumble, making it the first PPV I will ever buy.

So when it ends up being horrible you can blame me.

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Bidoof
01/19/12 7:02:00 AM
#192:


Dauntless Hunter posted...
I wonder if Royal Rumble buyrates have gone down since they started having the Pro Bowl the same weekend.

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XIII_rocks
01/19/12 7:05:00 AM
#193:


From: muddersmilk | #191
I will be ordering the Royal Rumble, making it the first PPV I will ever buy.

So when it ends up being horrible you can blame me.


Also ordering the Rumble.

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JaKyL25
01/19/12 9:06:00 AM
#194:


They started putting the Pro Bowl on opposite the Rumble in 2010.

2010 Royal Rumble buyrates were up from 2009.

2011 Royal Rumble buyrates were down from 2010.

I think it's safe to say the Pro Bowl affects nothing. <_<

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JaKyL25
01/19/12 9:40:00 AM
#195:


Jakyl Fun Fact

As of yesterday, Cody Rhodes surpassed Drew McIntyre and now has the 20th-longest Intercontinental Title reign in the title's 33-year history.

Jeff Hardy's 4th reign is next on his hitlist!

If he can make it to Survivor Series intact, he will surpass the Honky Tonk Man and become the longest-reigning IC Champion ever.

UNLEASH THE HONK-A-METER

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Coffee Ninja
01/19/12 9:46:00 AM
#196:


Are we Synchtubing NXT tonight? I don't see any reason why I should not be able to.

also wanna say Austin Vs McMahon, but that's never gonna really end. At least not until one dies.

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JaKyL25
01/19/12 9:46:00 AM
#197:


Just by making it to Wrestlemania, which doesn't seem that far-fetched, he will elevate himself into 9th place.

It's a long climb from 5th to 4th, though.

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JaKyL25
01/19/12 9:47:00 AM
#198:


Yeah, does anyone else want to SynchTube NXT later?

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muddersmilk
01/19/12 9:52:00 AM
#199:


If he can make it to Survivor Series intact, he will surpass the Honky Tonk Man and become the longest-reigning IC Champion ever.

UNLEASH THE HONK-A-METER


You know, this is the first time I can think of where I would be okay with the record being broken. You can do it Cody!

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Chronic1000
01/19/12 9:55:00 AM
#200:


My question is, who could Cody Rhodes lose the IC Title to? I really can't think of a midcarder who is to the level of the IC Title... which is saying something >_>.

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