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TopicSongs that haven't aged well
legendary_zell
04/10/24 11:22:25 AM
#19
masterpug53 posted...
Out of all the 'you've never actually listened to the lyrics have you' songs in the Rock pantheon, this is the one that still brings me the most (admittedly perverse) joy to spring on people.

Just looked it up. Jesus H. Christ, rock music was a mistake.

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TopicTips for being more hips and with it.
legendary_zell
04/09/24 9:08:34 PM
#14
Oh, and bring a guitar with you to every party or bar you go to. Just whip it out and start strumming a crowd pleaser like Wonderwall or Santeria.

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TopicTips for being more hips and with it.
legendary_zell
04/09/24 9:01:11 PM
#9
Bell bottoms
Leisure suits
Cocaine, speed, quaaludes
Use AAVE, but make sure it's from 40-50 years ago so you know it aged well

That should basically do it.

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TopicBlack GA voters sending message of Gaza to Biden not voting
legendary_zell
04/09/24 4:39:09 PM
#423
If you're making Yazarogi come across as the voice of reason on this topic....you've lost the plot.

But at the end of the day, a lot of this is not just a dispute about political tactics, many of these people think what Israel is doing is justified and that's why they get so mad that people are disgusted and heartbroken about what Israel's doing and our role in it.

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TopicBlack GA voters sending message of Gaza to Biden not voting
legendary_zell
04/09/24 3:52:00 PM
#316
Tanthalas posted...
Oh, don't even try to blame Biden for this one when you know fully fell Trump will be worse for Palestine.

Biden is to blame for what he's doing and every consequence of it, direction and indirect. Same as Trump would be.

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TopicBlack GA voters sending message of Gaza to Biden not voting
legendary_zell
04/09/24 3:50:32 PM
#312
SaikyoStyle posted...
How does Biden losing help Palestine?

It doesn't, so he should do what he can to avoid that. And we should do what we can to avoid that without greenlighting national atrocities. Both of those outcomes are aligned and require people opposed to genocide to voice that opposition.

I ask yet again, what do you WANT them to do. You all steadfastly refuse to answer that. I've been crystal clear on my position and what I want people to do and I accept the consequences and reactions. You all won't do the same.

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TopicBlack GA voters sending message of Gaza to Biden not voting
legendary_zell
04/09/24 2:38:52 PM
#161
I think some of you have been so scarred by the evil of the Republican Party, fascism and Trumpism that you've fundamentally given up on the idea of practicing politics in the deepest sense. You see simply pulling the lever for whatever Democrat that's served up to you as the entirety of possible resistance and you dump all the energy that would have been used to strike, protest, boycott etc into enforcing orthodoxy with the Democratic line because you think they're the only thing standing between us and fascism.

And there's a lot of truth to that way of seeing things. But it insidiously lets the Republican Party and the forces that led to Trump win because it forfeits so much of the power and influence you could have had. It forfeits the possibility of a better world, all impetus for the Democratic Party to improve, it boils democracy down exclusively to voting for the lesser evil and removes any incentive for that lesser evil to be...less evil. We have to find a better way than that or it'll be our doom.

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TopicBlack GA voters sending message of Gaza to Biden not voting
legendary_zell
04/09/24 2:28:27 PM
#150
Shadow_Don posted...
There are people saying that though. I dont know why you don't see this.


Will you answer the question? What should they do? Why are you deflecting to hypothetical other people when the people this topic are about are explicitly disclaiming that intent or message?

Who said I didn't see it? I've acknowledged in every topic on this subject that there's a group who are so disgusted by Biden's actions that they can't bring themselves to vote for him. I disagree with them for purely practical reasons. But those people aren't the subject of this topic.

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TopicBlack GA voters sending message of Gaza to Biden not voting
legendary_zell
04/09/24 2:25:57 PM
#147
LightningThief posted...
Aside from the usual bad faith actors in this topic (they know who they are), there are genuine left leaning posters here who definitely want to unironically see a trump presidency, and a worse fate for Palestine in this thread. Not understanding the "leverage" they think they have is actually nothing that actually helps the Palestinians given what their non vote means for the Palestinians.


You especially. You tell me what they should do instead? You're making wild bad faith accusations and dodging the central questions. You're accusing people who hate Trump with a passion and see him as a result of the failure of neoliberal politics as usual of wanting him to win, when we'll be first on the chopping block if that actually happens. So you better have a solution for us since you understand politics just so well.

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TopicBlack GA voters sending message of Gaza to Biden not voting
legendary_zell
04/09/24 2:23:14 PM
#144
BearlyWilling posted...
Start at the local/state level and maybe not in a race that is 100% going to be a Biden vs Trump repeat. If you have democrat reps in the house/senate that do not represent the will of the people, vote them out with democrats that DO represent the will of the people.

If we start voting people out in those elections, you have a far better chance, at least IMO, to leverage tactics like this ahead of a presidential raceso long as you do it early enough, anyway. Just my $.02.

The person you quoted is right though: threatening to abstain at a time when the opposition is a fascist dictator is not a good look.

It's been asked a million times and I've seen no response: what should these people who care about stopping a genocide do instead. They're not even saying they refuse to vote or vote for Biden, they're simply practicing politics by saying their votes are contingent. The same thing that millions of suburban voters, independents, moderates, and centrists do all the time. But when it's over a genocide, people reject literally every option that might even possibly have the required influence.

I'm forced to conclude that people simply want those who think a genocide is happening to swallow their tongues and vote Biden without fail. That often seems to be the answer people have towards the left, towards the young, towards anyone who doesn't see establishment Democrats as the epitome of politics done right. Just shut up and give us your support and be happy it isn't worse, don't advocate for anything different, don't make any arguments that make us uncomfortable, don't use anything other than approved tactics, don't do anything to rock the boat.

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TopicPoorly describe a game.
legendary_zell
04/08/24 11:15:42 PM
#39
Mentally ill twunk commits terrorism with a group of weirdos, then convinces them to stalk his former coworker.

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TopicGood luck trying to defend Trump now, Pro-Lifers
legendary_zell
04/08/24 9:58:48 AM
#7
They'll believe he'll whatever they want him to do as long as they give him unlimited power. That's kinda what fascists always believe, that their leader will vanquish their enemies by hook or by crook and place the in group permanently on top.

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TopicIs lightning air or fire element?
legendary_zell
04/05/24 10:16:25 PM
#27
I like it as it's own element or Holy. If not that, then fire, then air.

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TopicDutch woman chooses euthanasia due to mental health issues
legendary_zell
04/05/24 9:22:38 PM
#18
Pikachuchupika posted...
So suicide, but easier and sanctioned? I thought we wanted to prevent suicide, not encourage it?

It's not easier, committing suicide without interfacing with the medical system is way easier than this. All you need is a gun or a bridge or a pill or a car and a garage etc etc etc. That's why most are snap decisions.

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TopicDutch woman chooses euthanasia due to mental health issues
legendary_zell
04/05/24 9:05:08 PM
#13
We should do everything we can to take care of people and actually solve their problems.

People should also have the right to go out on their own terms, regardless of what others think.

The first one should happen before the second one, otherwise it leads to a lot of problems, if not eugenics.

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TopicRingleader of global monkey torture network 'The Torture Kings charged.
legendary_zell
04/05/24 2:43:37 PM
#21
Damn, we really really devalue non-human life. I have complicated feelings on the concept of prison and retributive justice, but if we're gonna have it at all, this guy deserves to get more.

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TopicNo Labels 2024 Presidential Campaign Fails to Launch
legendary_zell
04/05/24 12:41:02 AM
#11
CoyoteTheGreat posted...
These are the dumbest people in the world. The Democrats need a flat ban on anyone affiliated with No Labels being in their party after this BS.


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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 3:59:05 PM
#489
Kaldrenthebold posted...
Ding ding ding.

This view is in itself childish. It ignores the role of vested political and financial interests, political parties, the role of the media aligned with and owned by those interests, the difficulty of funding a campaign, the decades of propaganda against left of center and anti-war candidates etc etc etc. Candidates that would have opposed this are not on the ballot, not because they're not popular, not because they don't exist, but because such people never get that far in the current system anyway.

I will never ever ever concede that expecting a candidate not to facilitate a genocide is childish. I do expect all my candidates to be 100 percent aligned on that basic requirement. Yes, I do. The fact that we've gotten to a place where keeping to that basement level expectation is regarded as pie in the sky idealism is the problem itself.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 3:52:40 PM
#457
havean776 posted...
You have not given a way to stop the genocide and oppose the only man who is calling for a ceasefire.


He's the one blocking a binding vote on a cease fire though. You can't give him credit for allegedly doing a thing and imply that it's good, and also at the same time argue that it's fine that he's not doing the thing. And most of the American public is calling for a ceasefire, it's only among the political class that it's not popular.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 3:43:06 PM
#425
Xenogears15 posted...
So many people here forget 2016 and want to take a gamble again. Or are just accellerationists. Big yikes.

2016 happened because of the terrible vs terrible dynamic. Leftists and centrists are both repeating the same mistakes, not just leftists.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 3:36:36 PM
#406
To answer the allegedly unanswerable question: We should viciously and accurately criticize Biden for his actions, inactions, obstruction, and provision of cover for Israel. Some of you are claiming that you're fine with criticism and protest and are only opposing non-voters, but many of you have said criticism is inherently dangerous and can only have the effect of helping Trump.

We should mass protest, strike, boycott, do sit in, picket outside every rep and Senator's house, outside the Whitehouse, outside his personal house, outside his favorite restaurant and tailor, we should do the same at every defense contractor and government building sending bombs.

If we actually did all that and all that doesn't work, I'd feel very differently about Biden and the nature of our democracy. I think it would work if we actually did it. I don't think it's going to happen.

For the most likely scenario which is continued protest at around the current level, I think the best response is to try to escalate, to hope it works, and if not, weigh the pros and cons of support. Practically, I think that means voting for Biden if you're in a swing state. Especially for people who weren't willing to take the steps I outlined above, then you at least have the responsibility to mitigate domestic damage.

But I'm not going to begrudge anyone who genuinely has genocide as a hard stop and did something to try to change things. Or any Palestinian friends.


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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 2:53:52 PM
#281
Will_VIIII posted...
I also find it interesting that the people complaining about Biden supporting "genocide" (because by definition he actually isn't), they're going to enable the candidate that will make the situation significantly worse for said people.

This is what I mean. You simply think it's not happening, so you can't fathom the reactions of people who feel deep in their bones that it is. Who are living it. I wish you'd tell my lifelong Democrat Palestinian friend posting desperate messages on Facebook every day about the family, friends, staff members etc that he's losing that it's technically not a genocide because reasons and that he's naive for wanting to pressure the guy currently sending the bombs that did all that.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 2:50:14 PM
#272
LightningThief posted...
@legendary_zell
Which would still be partial blame to the people who are actively defending or participating in not voting, voting 3rd party, or voting for Trump.

Don't complain about things for Muslims and Palestinians getting more worse in Gaza or here in the United States if you are advocating for others to stay home or go 3rd party or vote Trump.

You say they aren't arguing "same thing both sides" but regardless their action literally is not even comprehending Trump winning is even more terrible for Palestinians. This isn't a matter of simple nuance. No matter if you are madly in love with Trump or Biden, or not.... one of those 2 people are going to win. Trump or Biden is going to be the next president in 2025, whether you like everything they've done or not, that's just reality.

That's not even getting into the list of other things like Abortion, LGBT, Trump wanting to be dictator, Trumls sycophants wanting to usher in christ totalitarian rule, etc. Because not voting at all and telling others "it doesn't matter who wins" already says you are "both sides the same"ing this to justify not voting.

We can literally set those other major issues aside as if you dont care about those things and focus just on Palestinians, Muslims and Gaza. Trump actively wants to do far more harm to Palestinians and Muslims both here in America and in Gaza. Even if we entertain "genocide Joe", the comparison between the 2 are not even close to being the same yet the spin is to desperately argue they are.

So like it or not, doing nothing is helping Trump, who will in fact make life even more worse for those people you claim to care about.

I'm not advocating for that. You deflect to those people in each topic on this, but I don't think I've seen anyone do that here. You never respond to the arguments I actually make because they're extremely uncomfortable to confront. I know, because I've gone back and forth on them in my head in an effort to do the right thing. And in doing so, I've come to the same practical conclusion as you, but you must understand that many people wont and you have to understand why. And it's not for the reasons you've stated.

When you tell people that by participating in the political system, they have no option but to do evil, they MUST vote for genocide no matter who they vote for, many many people will just opt out of that, become radicalized, they'll do the opposite of what we want. That shit isn't free, it has effects that we can't even fathom. That's why it's incumbent on us to not even try to make people swallow that vision of politics and to offer a different one where collective action can affect things for the better.

They understand that Trump is worse. Please understand that. It's incredibly insulting, alienating, and condescending when you insist that people don't get that. As I've said a trillion times, that's not the issue. The issue is whether Biden is bad enough that people give up on the whole concept of voting, political participation, etc.

I feel like it fundamentally comes down to not truly understanding or believing that people think a historical atrocity is happening. People deeply believe that and are horrified by it. When you're talking about "more or less harm" when the mass starvation of people is already currently happening and we're expected to pull a lever in favor of that because the other guy would just nuke them....what kind of system is that? That's a fundamentally irrational situation, you're going to get weird responses to that. That dynamic is the problem and it's what must ultimately be changed. They're not the same, but both are bad enough to blackpill people and that's all it takes. Do you get that?

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 1:30:53 PM
#132
WingsOfGood posted...
which means it is literally this

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef62e46c.jpg

You can claim nuance but that is literally what you are stating by claiming Biden lost your vote

Trump isn't bad enough to get you to vote Biden = Biden is just as bad as Trump

As tough as it is to say, Biden hasn't lost my vote. I've made the personal calculation that Biden is a better option than the alternatives, despite the evil he's committing daily. It's a very hard decision to come to and I don't feel good about it.

Many other people might not come to the same conclusion. That's what I'm saying. Your logic in that last sentence is just absurd. Someone can be much worse than someone else, while both don't meet basic standards of decency.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 1:23:15 PM
#127
mystic_belmont posted...
Let's say you have four voters, two are conservative, two are liberal. One of the liberal voters votes for Stein, while the other one vote for Biden. Both conservatives vote for Trump.

Congrats, Trump won.

That's true, but that's not Trump gaining votes. It's Biden losing one. It could be for a valid reason or an invalid reason. Or are you arguing that there's nothing Biden could do where you'd blame him for losing a vote? Is that just conceptually impossible in your minds?

Shadow_Don posted...
Honestly yeah I feel like I encounter these people all the time.

Like the guy in the other topic who passionately advocated for voting third party over Gaza and when asked who would be an adequate candidate he literally didn't know a single candidate who was even running.

Just completely fucking clueless on the issues.

Being ignorant about candidates is different from specifically not caring about substantive issues. Additionally, that person may have been an outright troll. That's not the type of person I'm talking about. I'm talking about the people I see at protests who are the same people who care most about all of the other various domestic and international issues, who vote, stay up to date on things, etc. None of them are the caricature you've got in your head.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 1:16:01 PM
#124
LightningThief posted...
Moot point if their actions still aid Trump, which is the actual true danger here.

There are people here who proudly advocate for people to either stay home or vote 3rd party. Which does help Trump, which consequently has the opposite affect of whatever plan they had to help Muslims and Palestinians abroad and even worse in the US.

This topic about who is causing that effect though. It's Biden unless you think people that think facilitating genocide is categorically unacceptable to earn a FOR vote should abandon that view for some reason.

If you think that somehow it's not happening or that Biden isn't facilitating it, that's one thing. It's wrong, but that's a more defensible view. It's another to tell people how much they should care about it. And it's indefensible to spend energy telling people to swallow those feelings than energy spent on getting Biden to stop pushing those people away through his actions.


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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 1:10:44 PM
#119
WingsOfGood posted...
Not voting Biden is Trump gaining votes or Biden wouldn't lose the election.

No, those are conceptually distinct ideas. Biden getting 75Mil votes while Trump gets 74 Mil and Biden getting 72 Mil while Trump Gets 74 Mil have different effects even though Trump got the same number of votes. Trump did not gain, Biden lost. That's what we're running the risk of here. And it's not even that straightforward since we have an Electoral College system. It only takes a few less votes in a few key states to flip the outcome.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 1:04:18 PM
#115
Heineken14 posted...
Yeah, people always just fall back on republicans being shit, but can never actually answer that.

Have you ever really had a conversation with someone who feels that way? Are you encountering people who are mad about Palestine and don't care about abortion rights, healthcare, policing, education, etc? Or are you just imagining that's what they think based on them saying they can't bring themselves to vote for Biden?

I don't think that's what's actually happening here. It's not that they don't care. They're heartbroken. Blackpilled. They weigh genocide differently than the people here. To them, it's not a buzzword, a charged accusation, it's a real thing that's happening and that they're being asked to ignore and vote FOR. They want another option, but they're being told it's childish to even ask for a non-genocidal option. They recognize that Trump will be even worse. That doesn't help things at all. It makes things worse. It's a natural reaction when faced with a situation that hopeless and anti-democratic to just check out.

That's what has to be confronted. The only options are to get Biden to change his stance or to simply hope enough people support Israel, don't support Israel but don't think a genocide is happening, or think a genocide is happening and can vote in favor of the guy facilitating it because they think Trump will be worse. That's shaky shaky shaky ice, which is something y'all never seem to acknowledge yourselves.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 12:57:08 PM
#111
bluezero posted...
What good is going to happen by voting for Trump?

Nothing, and anyone who advocates for that should be summarily disregarded. Luckily, I haven't seen anyone do that here. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about Biden losing votes, not Trump gaining them. The people pissed about Biden over Palestine are not going to vote for Trump. That's a strawman argument that hides the true danger here.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 12:55:09 PM
#109
WingsOfGood posted...
If Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself

How does Biden LOSE the ELECTION ?

How people feel about Biden is not decided independently of his actions. In fact, I'd say his actions have a lot to do with it. His actions are currently making people feel like they can't support him.

You can lose an election by not having enough votes for yourself or the other candidate getting more than you anticipated. I don't think the second one will happen this time, but it's possible to lose not through young people, Muslims, Arabs, leftists, etc voting FOR Trump, but by them being repulsed away from pulling the lever for Biden. By Biden's own actions. It simply takes a few thousand in Michigan, Pennsylvania, who have Palestinian friends that lost family or who read an article about Biden sending the bombs used to blow up aid workers.

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TopicIf Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself
legendary_zell
04/04/24 12:46:14 PM
#97
No one is saying that Trump would be better
No one is saying to vote for Trump
No one is saying that they're equivalent

What a substantial number of people are saying is that Biden's actions are sickening and unacceptable, no matter what the other guy did or did not do. You wanna talk about reality? Well the reality is that voting is an affirmative act and one that people tend not to do if they feel disgusted by the very thought of it. And genocide facilitation tends to make people feel that way.

Another key element of reality is that Democrats win when the President is someone to vote FOR, and they most often lose when it's considered crap vs crap. The administration's current policy is walking directly into that. It's what happened in 2000, what happened in 2004, and what happened in 2016.

You're presenting it as "adults" vs "petulant children" but hold your nose and vote for the genocider is a losing stance. You're only ever going to squeak by with that and then you'll wonder why you don't have the power to do anything useful. If you don't lose outright. You take pride in holding your nose, but for others, that's everything they hate about politics. You are a very small group of people in how you view politics. You think accepting perpetual complicity in horror is a sign of maturity, others see it as...horror.

You are very lucky people don't actually accept the same assumptions you do, because if they did, Republicans would never lose. People vote because they think something good might happen, not that they're locked into terrible things and are trying to show they're "mature" by voting for a lighter shade of black.

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TopicDo you or have you ever believed in an Illuminati-esque group controlling
legendary_zell
04/03/24 10:01:13 PM
#16
It's called capital.

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TopicIsraeli Protesters Storming Netanyahu's Home
legendary_zell
04/03/24 9:19:45 AM
#31
FortuneCookie posted...
Some of these responses are roundabout ways of trying to deny the existence of good Israelis.

"They're doing it for the wrong reason."
"They're still letting it happen."
"These same protestors will elect someone worse."

Because we see what the structure of the government and actual votes produce. We all wish it was actually a mass movement of people who want to end the war and end apartheid, settlement, etc. But that's not the case. It's kinda like the huge BLM protests in 2020 in the US, many people were out in the street, but a lot of those people were not on the same page, and overall, they had little effect.

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TopicIsrael intentionally targeted WCK workers
legendary_zell
04/02/24 11:10:52 AM
#30
It's state terrorism in order to engineer/continue a famine.

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TopicBiden campaign announces it's going to try to flip Florida blue.
legendary_zell
04/02/24 11:04:47 AM
#12
masterpug53 posted...
"Why is [insert state] such a GOP shithole and why are the Democrats in that state such incompetent losers?"

>Democrats announce plans to invest heavily in winning elections in said state

"Psh, what a waste of money, that state's a lost cause anyway!"

Please remember that one of the key reasons Crist didn't stand a chance against DeSantis was that Crist's campaign was flat broke for almost a month leading up to the election, and DeSantis had pots of money to throw around on local community outreach.

While as a Texan, I definitely agree that these states shouldn't be abandoned as lost causes, the rot is very deep in states like this. Loss leads to fatalism which leads to fear, incompetence, and corruption from state parties. It's hard to fix that from the top down within the context of one election cycle, with fascism as the consequence for failure.

I hope they pull it off if they're really going to go for it, because getting Texas and Florida could be what it takes to shatter the Republican Party. But the opportunity cost of putting resources there could be immense. The main thing that gives me hope is abortion directly being on the ballot.

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TopicIsrael intentionally targeted WCK workers
legendary_zell
04/02/24 10:27:56 AM
#19
Hopefully this will wake some liberals up as WCK is closely tied to a lot of popular liberal influencers/podcasters like Pod Save America. They should know that WCK of all groups cannot be credibly accused of being a Hamas front and that if Israel is deliberately attacking them....maybe people saying Israel is off the rails aren't just talking tankie nonsense.

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TopicAlleged Israel airstrike in Syria kills high ranking Iranian commander
legendary_zell
04/01/24 10:35:58 PM
#22
Israel is an apartheid ethnostate that regularly violates human rights and international law. They're not a liberal democracy.

Because of the aforementioned apartheid and enforcing an ethnostate and tying it to the very essence of their country. At least the people currently in power are.

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TopicUS approves 1,800 2k-pound bombs to Israel as Rafah invasion looms
legendary_zell
04/01/24 7:14:38 PM
#282
LightningThief posted...
You say that, but again the answer is no if the usuals pop in this topic who are literally advocating to vote 3rd party or stay home.

No, we can't just pretend those people aren't also here too, hence posts addressing that.

So you can't pretend those people (one guy) aren't there, but you can steadfastly and continuously ignore what I'm saying? How convenient.

I'll ask again, can we talk about what Biden is doing in enabling mass starvation, genocide, illegal settlement, and ethnic cleansing? Let's talk about what the President of the United States of America is doing, not what some rando on GameFaqs said.

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TopicUS approves 1,800 2k-pound bombs to Israel as Rafah invasion looms
legendary_zell
04/01/24 3:05:27 PM
#269
Okay, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't advocate non-voting. I disagree with those that do. I think as understandable as the impulse is, it's dangerous and unproductive. Trump must be defeated at the ballot box because the only way after that will by much less pleasant.

Now can we talk about what the current President is doing, whether it's justifiable, and how we get him to stop for both moral and electoral reasons, each of which are sufficient on their own as a reason?

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TopicUS approves 1,800 2k-pound bombs to Israel as Rafah invasion looms
legendary_zell
04/01/24 9:44:40 AM
#265
@Shadow_Don, I want you to think about the dynamic you're setting up. Your stance appears to be that simply talking about what the Biden admin is doing, not swearing not to vote Trump/third party, not telling other people not to vote/vote Trump/third party, but simply publicly voicing that you think Biden is doing a bad thing shouldn't be done because it could cause Trump to win.

That's not democracy or even politics at that point. That's letting yourself be entirely controlled by fear of the worst aspects of society, and thereby doing their bidding for them. It's completely giving up your power to influence your leaders, or even the idea of it. It's abdicating all moral responsibility. It's locking in that you'll always be stuck with something only slightly better than the worst outcome.

It's abhorrent and I'm not going down that path with you. One day you'll look back and be disgusted at the arguments you've made. I will not be disgusted at what I've done and said because I advocated for innocent life.

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TopicUS approves 1,800 2k-pound bombs to Israel as Rafah invasion looms
legendary_zell
03/31/24 10:48:38 PM
#232
Shadow_Don posted...
Ok but what is the solution if trump wins and actually makes the situation orders of magnitude worse as he says he will?

People who are terrified of this outcome should be doing what they can to make sure Biden does the right thing here, not trying to silence people who think a genocide is happening. I genuinely don't understand your stance here and how you can live with it. No one is disputing that Trump would be worse, but Biden's actions here are unconscionable and it's not just white socialists who think that. If we've gotten to the point where we can't criticize unconscionable actions and must remain silent about atrocities because they'll tarnish the person enabling them, our entire society has already failed.

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TopicBiden acknowledges 'pain' of Arab Americans over war in Gaza
legendary_zell
03/30/24 11:36:08 PM
#16
AbsolutelyNoOne posted...
I think I would've been happier if he didn't say anything


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TopicBeyonce did a cover of Jolene and it's even worse than you think it is.
legendary_zell
03/30/24 10:00:07 PM
#60
It's cringey and makes the song into a much less unique one, from one of heartbreaking vulnerability to typical "stay away from my man" stuff not too different from what you'd see during a Facebook argument in 2011. It's genuinely not good and I'm saying this as someone who was blown away by Renaissance.

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TopicUnpopular opinion, FF6 is the only FF with 10/10 World Map/ Airship themes
legendary_zell
03/30/24 9:44:17 PM
#7
7's airship theme is also an 11/10. I already can't wait for the sequence in the third game when it's stolen and when the crew gets their limit break.

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TopicUS approves 1,800 2k-pound bombs to Israel as Rafah invasion looms
legendary_zell
03/30/24 10:51:18 AM
#48
ClayGuida posted...
Stop giving right wingers ammo to propagandize.

Biden is the one doing that. We can't simply ignore evil because other evil people will use it to their ends. The solution to that is to stop doing the evil thing so it can't be used against you.

Ignoring it, defending it, or pretending it's not evil is not free. It has serious consequences morally and politically.

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TopicUS approves 1,800 2k-pound bombs to Israel as Rafah invasion looms
legendary_zell
03/30/24 10:44:59 AM
#41
Disgusting and an own goal. He gains nothing from this and only blackens his name. Unless you count preservation of our "relationships" and "geopolitical interests" which always seem to involve making money and killing innocent people.

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TopicC/D. People who are skilled at video games deserve the same respect as athletes.
legendary_zell
03/28/24 7:37:51 PM
#15
Sometimes there's an equivalent degree of difficulty/number of people who can do something. But it's closer to being a really good chess or poker player.

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Topicwhat even is Middle Class anyway? like i genuinely dont know
legendary_zell
03/28/24 5:14:34 PM
#37
If you are a wage laborer, if you need to work to pay bills, if you don't live off an inheritance or stock, you're working class.

Middle class is a meaningless badge people pin on themselves so they can feel that they're above being poor when they're just as subject to the whims of capital and the business cycle as anyone else.

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