Current Events > Alleged Israel airstrike in Syria kills high ranking Iranian commander

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68708923.amp

Fuck!

oh well

Welp, better just keep giving them more weapons.

literally gonna draw us into another war in the middle east

Hitting a diplomatic compound is pretty extreme, even by Israeli standards. They consistently refuse to follow international laws that are the only reason their country exists.

no you guys you don't get it, israel has the right to use US weapons to bomb whoever they want whenever they want with no diplomatic repurcussions whatsoever and every hospital and wedding is a secret hamas training camp

the only thing that can possibly avenge 364 Israeli civilian deaths is 33,000 Palestinian civilian deaths, that's just how math works

Give billions to Israel in exchange for a war with Iran. What a deal!

Hezbollah has been increasing attacks against Israel for the past week, and Iran orchestrated Oct. 7th. It's always so interesting how Israeli retaliation for their aggressiveness gets painted as "escalation" in the media...

Get fucked, Iranian Revolutionary Guard

MrMolinaro posted...

Hitting a diplomatic compound is pretty extreme, even by Israeli standards. They consistently refuse to follow international laws that are the only reason their country exists.

Yeah. Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis.... All of Israel's primary enemies. Well known for following international law. If they ever started intentionally firing at non-military targets, Israel sure would be in trouble!

Will Iran retaliate?

streamofthesky posted...

the past week

i realize your memory might not be that great since you think the conflict started on 7 October, but oh man, wait until i tell you about what happened way back in 1967

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOaeDHeJ80I

Military targets seem fair. I think most peoples concern is the civilians

Israel forcing the biblical prophecies

..or so would say some religious nuts

streamofthesky posted...

Hezbollah has been increasing attacks against Israel for the past week, and Iran orchestrated Oct. 7th. It's always so interesting how Israeli retaliation for their aggressiveness gets painted as "escalation" in the media...

Get fucked, Iranian Revolutionary Guard

Yeah. Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis.... All of Israel's primary enemies. Well known for following international law. If they ever started intentionally firing at non-military targets, Israel sure would be in trouble!

I don't know why Iran and their proxy wars against liberal democratic countries are so revered to people. Islamic fundamentalism isn't the side to cheer for. Get fucked and good ridance to that general, I say.

streamofthesky posted...

Hezbollah has been increasing attacks against Israel for the past week, and Iran orchestrated Oct. 7th. It's always so interesting how Israeli retaliation for their aggressiveness gets painted as "escalation" in the media...

Get fucked, Iranian Revolutionary Guard

The resident Zionist shill says what? But I'm sure you'd have problems with the Iranian military assassinating Israeli generals right?

And prove that Iran was behind Oct 7. Bibi was the one who deliberately aided Hamas to screw with the secular Palestinian factions.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/

Yeah. Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis.... All of Israel's primary enemies. Well known for following international law. If they ever started intentionally firing at non-military targets, Israel sure would be in trouble!

"Bbbut the Iranians don't follow international law!!! Therefore it's okay for Israel to not follow them too and starve Gazans and bomb hospitals!!!"

kelemvor posted...

I don't know why Iran and their proxy wars against liberal democratic countries are so revered to people. Islamic fundamentalism isn't the side to cheer for. Get fucked and good ridance to that general, I say.

Implying that being a nominal liberal democracy automatically shields you from criticisms and war crimes.

And what are the Western liberal democracies doing to help the Palestinian civilians? All talk but still selling weapons to Israel behind the scenes.

Iran is hummus

The only sources I can see claiming Iran orchestrated the October 7th attacks are from Israel, and they are about as trustworthy as Russia as a source at this point.

kelemvor posted...

I don't know why Iran and their proxy wars against liberal democratic countries are so revered

What liberal democratic country are we taking about here?

Ulfar posted...

What liberal democratic country are we taking about here?

Uh, the United States??

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/01/iran-iraq-militias-war/677295/

Also, believe it or not, but Israel is a democratic liberal country. They have free elections, freedom of the press, woman and LGTB rights, etc...

Also, every country relying on free trade through the Suez Canal is being attacted by the Houthis.

Israel is an apartheid ethnostate that regularly violates human rights and international law. They're not a liberal democracy.

Because of the aforementioned apartheid and enforcing an ethnostate and tying it to the very essence of their country. At least the people currently in power are.

kelemvor posted...

Also, believe it or not, but Israel is a democratic liberal country. They have free elections, freedom of the press, woman and LGTB rights, etc...

Also, believe it or not, that "democratic liberal country" is conducting a campaign of genocide.

streamofthesky posted...

Hezbollah has been increasing attacks against Israel for the past week, and Iran orchestrated Oct. 7th. It's always so interesting how Israeli retaliation for their aggressiveness gets painted as "escalation" in the media...

Get fucked, Iranian Revolutionary Guard

There is no proof of that at all.

kelemvor posted...

Also, believe it or not, but Israel is a democratic liberal country.

What's liberal about a theocratic ethnostate currently committing genocide after years of apartheid?

Did you considered apartheid South Africa to be liberal?

streamofthesky posted...

It's always so interesting how Israeli retaliation for their aggressiveness gets painted as "escalation" in the media...

Destroying a diplomatic consulate is a literal violation of the Geneva Convention.

More like only Israel has the ability to get away with blatant war crimes. Well, and the U.S., however the world/UN could do far more to Israel than the U.S.

streamofthesky posted...

Hezbollah has been increasing attacks against Israel for the past week, and Iran orchestrated Oct. 7th. It's always so interesting how Israeli retaliation for their aggressiveness gets painted as "escalation" in the media...

Get fucked, Iranian Revolutionary Guard

Yeah. Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis.... All of Israel's primary enemies. Well known for following international law. If they ever started intentionally firing at non-military targets, Israel sure would be in trouble!

Yeah I don't like Israel or their actions in Gaza, but I'm not losing sleep at night because some head muckity muck in the Iranian military got iced.

Fuck em

kelemvor posted...

Uh, the United States??

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/01/iran-iraq-militias-war/677295/

Also, believe it or not, but Israel is a democratic liberal country. They have free elections, freedom of the press, woman and LGTB rights, etc...

Also, every country relying on free trade through the Suez Canal is being attacted by the Houthis.

Liberal democracies generally don't ban media for criticising the government.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/01/al-jazeera-faces-security-threat-ban-after-israel-passes-new-law-benjamin-netanyahu

And using your logic, the Vietnam and Iraq Wars are justified because they didn't have elections in North Vietnam and Baathist Iraq, right?

oh god it's /ce/'s resident tankie

Doom_Art posted...

oh god it's /ce/'s resident tankie

Oh God it's/ce/'s resident neocon

Kradek posted...

Destroying a diplomatic consulate is a literal violation of the Geneva Convention.

More like only Israel has the ability to get away with blatant war crimes. Well, and the U.S., however the world/UN could do far more to Israel than the U.S.

Yeah, Hamas killing 1000 civilians including children and babies as a surprise attack makes them freedom fighters. Why aren't they being tried for those war crimes? Jesus Christ. All Hamas has to do is turn over the hostages and the cease fire will begin.

I'm done with this thread.

kelemvor posted...

Why aren't they being tried for those war crimes?

Because they're a terrorist group. Are you saying the IDF is also a terrorist group?

kelemvor posted...

All Hamas has to do is turn over the hostages and the cease fire will begin.

I don't know how much they can be trusted but the said they would a half and Israel rejected it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-netanyahu-rejects-hamas-conditions-hostage-deal-which-include-outright-2024-01-21/

NOTE: This is in no way suggesting that the terrorist are good in this situation. Just pointing out that they did offer that.

kelemvor posted...

Yeah, Hamas killing 1000 civilians including children and babies as a surprise attack makes them freedom fighters. Why aren't they being tried for those war crimes? Jesus Christ. All Hamas has to do is turn over the hostages and the cease fire will begin.

I'm done with this thread.

You should make that done with this site.

That was one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever read.

Genocide/ethnic cleansing apologists are the worst.

kelemvor posted...

I don't know why Iran and their proxy wars against liberal democratic countries are so revered to people. Islamic fundamentalism isn't the side to cheer for. Get fucked and good ridance to that general, I say.

Some people think that any enemy of the United States can only do good things.

kelemvor posted...

Yeah, Hamas killing 1000 civilians including children and babies as a surprise attack makes them freedom fighters. Why aren't they being tried for those war crimes? Jesus Christ. All Hamas has to do is turn over the hostages and the cease fire will begin.

I'm done with this thread.

I guess that makes Bibi guilty of funding terrorism?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/

YellowSUV posted...

Some people think that any enemy of the United States can only do good things.

It's simply a reaction to decades of US nationalist propaganda depicting it as the ultimate good, and whenever they commit atrocities they're just written off as exceptions or bad eggs or necessary evils.

kelemvor posted...

Yeah, Hamas killing 1000 civilians including children and babies as a surprise attack makes them freedom fighters. Why aren't they being tried for those war crimes? Jesus Christ. All Hamas has to do is turn over the hostages and the cease fire will begin.

I'm done with this thread.

You know, Israel sniped kids, watching kids bleed to death while stopping medics, killed journalists and medics, etc long before Oct 7.
Heck, it is almost 10 years ago since they used a battleship to kill kids playing soccer on a beach!
Yes, Hamas should be tried for their war crimes as much as Israel should.

Foppe posted...

Yes, Hamas should be tried for their war crimes as much as Israel should.

the payment will become due soon enough once they're done with them.
they'll take bibi and hopefully lock him up for life.

YellowSUV posted...

Some people think that any enemy of the United States can only do good things.

In fairness, that viewpoint comes about from studying every horrific and awful thing the US has done since WW2 in it's quest to kill anything that might resemble a better world for workers rather than corporations. And boy howdy have we done that alot.

Now that being said, the problem is that people get that box ticked that says "American foreign policy bad and usually justified by lies" and confuse it by making this leap to"that means everyone on the other side of US foreign is good".

The reality of it is, yes, the US is usually on the wrong side of this shit, but no that doesn't mean those on the recieving are good.

That also being said, a ton of the problems in that region are due to western fuckery. You ever wonder why the Kurds are minorities in like 5 different countries with no state of their own? Because the idiot Westerners that the redrew the borders after the WW1 ended didn't understand or give a shit about the people in the borders they drew. They cared about what they could get for themselves.

Iran is a perfect example of this. For decades we propped up a murderous dictator there. His opposition were mostly left leaning people who wanted less foreign interests involved in their oil industry, so we helped repress and kill them. So then when things got to the point where we couldn't control the situation anymore it was the religious fundamentalists who were the only ones with organizational capacity to actually lead a revolution.

Everhthing is a shitshow over there, but it's a shitshow we created.

ScazarMeltex posted...

In fairness, that viewpoint comes about from studying every horrific and awful thing the US has done since WW2 in it's quest to kill anything that might resemble a better world for workers rather than corporations. And boy howdy have we done that alot.

Now that being said, the problem is that people get that box ticked that says "American foreign policy bad and usually justified by lies" and confuse it by making this leap to"that means everyone on the other side of US foreign is good".

The reality of it is, yes, the US is usually on the wrong side of this shit, but no that doesn't mean those on the recieving are good.

That also being said, a ton of the problems in that region are due to western fuckery. You ever wonder why the Kurds are minorities in like 5 different countries with no state of their own? Because the idiot Westerners that the redrew the borders after the WW1 ended didn't understand or give a shit about the people in the borders they drew. They cared about what they could get for themselves.

Iran is a perfect example of this. For decades we propped up a murderous dictator there. His opposition were mostly left leaning people who wanted less foreign interests involved in their oil industry, so we helped repress and kill them. So then when things got to the point where we couldn't control the situation anymore it was the religious fundamentalists who were the only ones with organizational capacity to actually lead a revolution.

Everhthing is a shitshow over there, but it's a shitshow we created.

Thank you. Not many people understand history and how much western influence is the cause of middle East of today. But those that don't study it only look at today as if they are not complacent of their own.

It doesn't mean we can condone the actions and people of the past are to blame. But western powers are seen as hypocrites in those regions because the generations that grew up there have had to live with that constant interference in their lives. US doesn't have a favourably good view.

"the US is usually on the wrong side of this shit but this time is different, I promise, we totally won't regret this 20 years down the line" sounds eerily similar but I can't place why