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Humble_Novice
03/30/24 8:46:46 PM
#51:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwblaKmyVw

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R1masher
03/30/24 8:53:20 PM
#52:


deoxxys posted...
I really like the Miley Cyrus cover of Jolene

that kid can sing

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LonelyStoner
03/30/24 8:55:44 PM
#53:


ai123 posted...
Or, maybe she likes it.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Dolly never says anything bad about anyone regardless of how she actually feels.


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Scorsese2002
03/30/24 9:34:41 PM
#54:


Lol at the defenders on social media, album is a fuckin joke

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Delirious_Beard
03/30/24 9:43:05 PM
#55:


TinyTim01 posted...
What we learned from Diddy, Weinstein etc.

People that are famous arent their cause of talent, rather because they are supported by the system. And they get that support by supporting the system with their bodies. Beyonce wasnt even the best singer in Destiny's child, yet she was the leader and the breakout star.

Stars that dont play ball get exercised. Micheal Jackson was going against the record labels, all of a sudden they made up stories about him diddling children, even though he had support from many people defending him. Diddy has no defenders, cause he was definitely a diddler.

people overlooking this insanely deranged post

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tripleh213
03/30/24 9:44:44 PM
#56:


Yea it sucks. The original is way better.

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Humble_Novice
03/30/24 9:47:09 PM
#57:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjnC8HSRdU

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Phoro
03/30/24 9:49:54 PM
#58:


Is it worse than the original version?
I've always loathed that shit

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Villain_S_Fiend
03/30/24 9:51:13 PM
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Of course Dolly only has nice things to say. She might even really like it. That doesn't mean everyone needs to.

My issue with the changes she made is that they ruin what I get from the tone of the song. The musical feel of the song is the perfect backdrop for such a heartfelt lyrical plea - it's an absolutely beautiful composition.

Making the lyrics into more of a "fuck around and find out" story just conveys to me a lack of caring when it comes to that sort of thing; it's just making it about the threat she poses, not the one Jolene poses. It's too much of a departure.

I mentioned the song earlier, but I'll add the song itself, because I think it's a great example of the right tone for "fuck around and find out":
https://youtu.be/skacPVsLleU?si=TW-GX1YtkZkgomU4

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legendary_zell
03/30/24 10:00:07 PM
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It's cringey and makes the song into a much less unique one, from one of heartbreaking vulnerability to typical "stay away from my man" stuff not too different from what you'd see during a Facebook argument in 2011. It's genuinely not good and I'm saying this as someone who was blown away by Renaissance.

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Villain_S_Fiend
03/30/24 10:04:49 PM
#61:


legendary_zell posted...
vulnerability
That's the thing right there: vulnerability. Everything about the original communicates that, and nothing about Beyonce's cover does. She didn't take a song and "make it her own", it's just not the same song. It's like glorified sampling.

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hereforemnant
03/30/24 10:07:40 PM
#62:


You're high if you think this sounds bad. Her voice is on point & sounds great, but country music overall sucks as a genre, it's not Beyonce's fault.
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Tyranthraxus
03/30/24 10:08:23 PM
#63:


Delirious_Beard posted...
people overlooking this insanely deranged post
It's a 2009 account with 743 karma it's not worth responding to

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AgentCoulson
03/30/24 10:19:06 PM
#64:


I don't normally listen to this kind of music but I gave the original a listen just now and damn I love it. Listened to Beyonce's cover right after and I thought it was okay until around the 2:10 mark when she decided to go off the rails. I will say, it's very inline with the persona she's created for herself. She's Sasha Fierce not Sasha Vulnerable.

Edit. Also like Miley Cyrus version. Didn't expect to.

Also Jolene's standards must've gone way down if she's desperate for Jay-Z camel looking ass.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/30/24 10:22:58 PM
#65:


Bruh making a cover of Jolene into a stay away from my man style song with the man in question being Jay Z of all people isunderwhelming to say the least.

The line about raising her man and his kids is fucking wild


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ssb_yunglink2
03/30/24 10:24:18 PM
#66:


hereforemnant posted...
You're high if you think this sounds bad. Her voice is on point & sounds great, but country music overall sucks as a genre, it's not Beyonce's fault.
Jolene is a classic. Beyoncs voice here is just fine, its just that she changed the lyrics into being aggressive towards other women and acting like Jay Z didnt literally cheat on her

Just really tone deaf tbh

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hereforemnant
03/30/24 10:26:49 PM
#67:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Jolene is a classic. Beyoncs voice here is just fine, its just that she changed the lyrics into being aggressive towards other women and acting like Jay Z didnt literally cheat on her

Just really tone deaf tbh
Ohhh is the context for it in her cover that she's canonically defending Jay Z from another woman? Or is that the head canon? IDK how much the lyrics compare to the old version, I haven't listened to it in awhile.
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Cemith
03/30/24 10:32:23 PM
#68:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Like this is legitimately one of the worst covers I've ever heard in my life. It's worse than Avril Lavigne's Chop Suey and Metallica's Ecstasy of Gold.

Avril Lavigne's WHAT

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Tyranthraxus
03/30/24 10:33:45 PM
#69:


Cemith posted...
Avril Lavigne's WHAT
Imagine an entire shelter full of cats fighting each other to the death.


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StealThisSheen
03/30/24 10:34:56 PM
#70:


hereforemnant posted...
You're high if you think this sounds bad. Her voice is on point & sounds great, but country music overall sucks as a genre, it's not Beyonce's fault.

I feel like you've missed the point. It isn't about how it sounds, as much as it is about how she changed the lyrics and what the song was supposed to mean.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/30/24 10:38:17 PM
#71:


hereforemnant posted...
Ohhh is the context for it in her cover that she's canonically defending Jay Z from another woman? Or is that the head canon? IDK how much the lyrics compare to the old version, I haven't listened to it in awhile.
The way she talks about the relationship in her cover absolutely heavily implies that its Jay Z. Which is wack as hell.

Original Jolene was Dolly parton begging this woman who she sees as superior to not steal her man away from her. Its a song about insecurities and desperation, and based on Dolly Partons then new husband who did not actually cheat on her.

Beyoncs version is like the exact opposite, aggressively telling Jolene to stay the fuck away or shell get hurt, and is about a man who literally did cheat on her in real life

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MTRodaba2468
03/30/24 11:48:01 PM
#72:


Villain_S_Fiend posted...
That's the thing right there: vulnerability. Everything about the original communicates that, and nothing about Beyonce's cover does. She didn't take a song and "make it her own", it's just not the same song. It's like glorified sampling.
That's why I'm not a fan of the cover, either. Beyonce's gone out of her way to avoid showing vulnerability in her persona and music, to a detriment (there's a reason Lemonade is her best album).

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hereforemnant
03/31/24 1:20:09 AM
#73:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
The way she talks about the relationship in her cover absolutely heavily implies that its Jay Z. Which is wack as hell.

Original Jolene was Dolly parton begging this woman who she sees as superior to not steal her man away from her. Its a song about insecurities and desperation, and based on Dolly Partons then new husband who did not actually cheat on her.

Beyoncs version is like the exact opposite, aggressively telling Jolene to stay the fuck away or shell get hurt, and is about a man who literally did cheat on her in real life
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SuperExcitebike
03/31/24 1:37:53 AM
#74:


The cover is fine and the album is really fun. Bodyguard is definitely in SotY contention

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BB_mofo
03/31/24 1:40:02 AM
#75:


Frosted_Midna posted...
That is pretty dead on!

I didn't get the comic's punchline until I realized the other girl is supposed to be Jolene. Jolene in the song had auburn hair and green eyes.

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AgentCoulson
03/31/24 2:21:47 AM
#76:


BB_mofo posted...
I didn't get the comic's punchline until I realized the other girl is supposed to be Jolene. Jolene in the song had auburn hair and green eyes.

The Jolene in the comic seems to be Jolyne Kujo from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

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hyperskate65
03/31/24 2:53:22 AM
#77:


Actual good cover of Jolene: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1CD7p26kI1o

Also, the Beyonc version is not only bad, it's also very sad. We know Jay cheated. It's public knowledge that B herself basically dropped. So this is a really weirdly pathetic song basically telling other women to "back off" lol. I won't say I held her on a pedestal or anything, but I definitely lost some respect as of this song.

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ai123
03/31/24 3:36:54 AM
#78:


So people hate the song because they don't like her presentation of her real life relationship? I did not know people were such sticklers for (what they see as) biographical accuracy in music.

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pegusus123456
03/31/24 3:38:06 AM
#79:


ai123 posted...
So people hate the song because they don't like her presentation of her real life relationship? I did not know people were such sticklers for (what they see as) biographical accuracy in music.
No, I just think the lyrics are garbage and make only the smallest effort to fit with the tune.

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ai123
03/31/24 3:40:01 AM
#80:


pegusus123456 posted...
No, I just think the lyrics are garbage and make only the smallest effort to fit with the tune.
They are clumsy, that's true.

But it's odd to criticize the song (and her) on such as personal level. For not showing the correct emotion, for not talking about her marriage the 'right' way.

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Prestoff
03/31/24 4:35:15 AM
#81:


It sounded fine at first, but then the lyrics change just felt more and more awkward and it kept getting worst and worst as the song dragged out. I'm not feeling this album as much, but I give her credit for trying something different.

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toadfan64
03/31/24 4:48:35 AM
#82:


Miley Cyrus did an excellent cover of this song. Beyonce's is straight up trash.

The Blackbird cover is alright I suppose, albeit it's just her singing over Paul's guitar.

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bevan306
03/31/24 4:58:43 AM
#83:


it's ok, I've heard worse

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Kradek
03/31/24 5:07:58 AM
#84:


ai123 posted...
So people hate the song because they don't like her presentation of her real life relationship? I did not know people were such sticklers for (what they see as) biographical accuracy in music.

I get what you're saying, however I can also see the other side of it. It would be like if a right-wing piece of shit (Lara Trump) covered a pro-feminist song with a "actually women should be happy they even get to be in the kitchen" slant.

I haven't heard Beyonce's cover, however I do know about the original and if what people are saying about her lyrical changes are accurate, it seems like an apt comparison.

She is of course entitled to feeling like she needs to defend Jay and/or her marital commitment to him, I cast no judgment upon her for that as it's her life.

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Finis-XII
03/31/24 5:09:20 AM
#85:


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This post is making me cringe into the 9th dimension so hard, lol. Beyonce's cover isn't bad at all, I'd argue the lyric change makes it even better than the original. Also, saying "gif" with a hard G sounds dumb and it fucking sucks ass.

...Like, not only is your taste in music shit (and I say this as someone who isn't even a Beyonce fan) but you also took the cake on being the wrongest poster here with that bit about the "gif" pronunciation thing. You just had to add piss on top of the shit sundae.

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Kradek
03/31/24 5:12:07 AM
#87:


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I'm guilty of not hating it.

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Lmao fuck that band and anything they even attempt to do.

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pegusus123456
03/31/24 5:34:22 AM
#88:


Finis-XII posted...
Beyonce's cover isn't bad at all, I'd argue the lyric change makes it even better than the original.
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Karovorak
03/31/24 6:00:19 AM
#90:


Finis-XII posted...
Beyonce's cover isn't bad at all, I'd argue the lyric change makes it even better than the original.

Look, I can deal with stuff like "it isn't bad" or "it sounds good", but claiming that the lyrics are better?

Finis-XII posted...
This post is making me cringe into the 9th dimension so hard, lol.

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EyeWontBeFooled
03/31/24 6:13:49 AM
#92:


R1masher posted...
that kid can sing
The true Dolly Parton successor. She's gonna be a rock and country star for a long time :)

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Null_Gain
03/31/24 6:17:06 AM
#93:


Having never heard the original, Beyonce's version is pretty ok, if not for a little unintentional hilarity with the lyrics. The guitar and beat part of the song is solid.

I tend to not like county to begin with so maybe Beyonce's version not sounding like the original is a plus for me.

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Kradek
03/31/24 7:00:30 AM
#94:


Null_Gain posted...
Having never heard the original, Beyonce's version is pretty ok, if not for a little unintentional hilarity with the lyrics. The guitar and beat part of the song is solid.

I tend to not like county to begin with so maybe Beyonce's version not sounding like the original is a plus for me.

Dolly Parton isn't typical country, or at the very least she's not part of the reason so many people love to hate on it.

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Finis-XII
03/31/24 7:02:37 AM
#95:


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This post along with all the other responses to me just further remind me the GameFAQs community must live in a goblin planet bubble universe away from the rest of society.

Not a single fucking person I've ever known in my life has ever said "GHIFF", and any sane person (including the creator of the format himself) defaults to "jif" for a reason. Because the alternative sounds fucking stupid.

Null_Gain posted...
Having never heard the original, Beyonce's version is pretty ok, if not for a little unintentional hilarity with the lyrics. The guitar and beat part of the song is solid.

I tend to not like county to begin with so maybe Beyonce's version not sounding like the original is a plus for me.
Yeah I agree with this and another guy ITT who brought up a similar point.

I'll also note that I don't know and don't care enough to know about the lore of Beyonce's relationship drama with Jay-Z or how any of that adds context to the song here. I'm just basing my opinion on her performance of the song itself, and it sounds fine.

It's just strange and funny how Beyonce is maybe the third behind Marty Robbins and Neko Case as artists who can at least make country music actually palatable to me.

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pegusus123456
03/31/24 7:18:52 AM
#96:


Null_Gain posted...
Having never heard the original, Beyonce's version is pretty ok, if not for a little unintentional hilarity with the lyrics. The guitar and beat part of the song is solid.

I tend to not like county to begin with so maybe Beyonce's version not sounding like the original is a plus for me.
It sounds like the only part of the song you liked is from the original lol

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Jabodie
03/31/24 7:26:10 AM
#97:


Is this reaction to the song white culture? I ask this with sincerity.

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Jabodie
03/31/24 7:27:56 AM
#98:


Finis-XII posted...
Not a single fucking person I've ever known in my life has ever said "GHIFF", and any sane person (including the creator of the format himself) defaults to "jif" for a reason. Because the alternative sounds fucking stupid.
Probably the most false thing I've ever read in ten years on my CE.

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The_Sock
03/31/24 7:48:57 AM
#99:


I cant stand Beyonc. She honestly believes shes Gods gift to the world. She thinks shes better than everyone else. Shes mean to her fans and whats even worse is that she treats her dancers like shit.

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Finis-XII
03/31/24 7:52:18 AM
#100:


Jabodie posted...
Probably the most true thing I've ever read in ten years on my CE.


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