Poll of the Day > An Islamophobe, a racist, a sex offender and a white supremacist walk into a bar

(+) Yeah! (+)

Bartender says, "What'll it be, Mr. Trump?"
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It should be "walks" since the subject is singular
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Muffinz0rz posted...

It should be "walks" since the subject is singular

Wouldn't that give away the joke?
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Muffinz0rz posted...

It should be "walks" since the subject is singular

Topic title is 80/80 as it is, had to make some sacrifices.

Also, no period at the end, and I think there should be another comma after "offender" but admittedly grammar is not my strong suit.
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Truth_Decay posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

It should be "walks" since the subject is singular

Wouldn't that give away the joke?

A joke should be crafted to be ambiguous, not misleading.
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Far-Queue posted...

I think there should be another comma after "offender"

Officially, that comma (the "Oxford comma") isn't correct anymore, though I personally disagree with that decision because of the ambiguity it can introduce. You're fine as-is.
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What's an islamophobe? Does george W bush count?
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ungubby posted...

What's an islamophobe? Does george W bush count?

someone that doesn't wanna get murked by some terris
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Trump don't care what you are, as long as he can take your money.
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adjl posted...

Far-Queue posted...

I think there should be another comma after "offender"

Officially, that comma (the "Oxford comma") isn't correct anymore, though I personally disagree with that decision because of the ambiguity it can introduce.

Depends who you ask. Everywhere I know of still accepts the Oxford comma, though it is optional and it's considered fine to leave it off.

I like it for those rare instances where you want to make it clear that the last two items in a list are not meant to be taken as a single unit, though admittedly that's a rare application and the lack of universality in its usage does still leave some ambiguity when it's not used.
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*Facepalm* Seriously? Terrible joke. Jokes like this only work both if it's separate people and it's not obvious from a thousand miles away.
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Oxford commas shouldn't be considered optional. Fight me.
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Guys, honestly, who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?

MICHALECOLE posted...

Guys, honestly, who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?

Vampire Weekend sure don't.
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Bruh wtf is up with these mods

I get warned for saying Obama is a certain religion (which isn't offensive if the religion isn't bad, right?) but y'all get to say anything and everything about trump.
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Isn't saying white supremacist and racist both kind of redundant?
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Bruh wtf is up with these mods

Did you mark it? Possible no one has marked it.
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Yes
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Maybe the mods just haven't gotten around to it.
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Suuuurrreee
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Still up
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adjl posted...

Officially, that comma (the "Oxford comma") isn't correct anymore,

Says who? I'll fight anyone who says it's not correct. Newspapers and some others don't use it to save on page space, but other than that it's a choice as long as you stay consistent with it.
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Despite the fact that he is none of those?

Besides, he doesn't drink either.

Still up
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PaddysPub posted...

someone that doesn't wanna get murked by some terris

why the fuck did this make me lol

Racist and islamophobe are redundant because white supremacist covers both. Not that Trump is a white supremacist, a sex offender, racist, or "islamophobic" (the last of which is a silly baseless term). Well, it's possible he could be racist because we don't know his heart, but he's not the other things.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Bruh wtf is up with these mods

I get warned for saying Obama is a certain religion (which isn't offensive if the religion isn't bad, right?) but y'all get to say anything and everything about trump.

obama is jewish?
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I saw the topic title and wondered if I would be able to say "inb4 Zeus comes to Trump's defense," and then skimmed to find it. Yep, it looks like I'm too late to make that accurate prediction that's as easy as the vast majority of us find it to say "White supremacists are bad," without trying to shovel blame at other people who may or may not have been trying to defend themselves or others. Get a new shtick, man.
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Zeus posted...

Well, it's possible he could be racist because we don't know his heart, but he's not the other things.

Of those titles, only "sex offender" is the one you can definitively say he's not (pending resolution of several oustanding legal actions). "White supremacist" and "islamophobe" both also are based on opinion the same way as "racist", so if you're willing to leave open the possibility that Trump is a racist you also have to leave open the possibility of those two as well.
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Entity13 posted...

I saw the topic title and wondered if I would be able to say "inb4 Zeus comes to Trump's defense," and then skimmed to find it. Yep, it looks like I'm too late to make that accurate prediction that's as easy as the vast majority of us find it to say "White supremacists are bad," without trying to shovel blame at other people who may or may not have been trying to defend themselves or others. Get a new shtick, man.

How again do "defend yourself and others" by going down to fight people at a protest? Because that doesn't even quality as pre-emptive self-defense which is the flimsy excuse for the US attacking other nations.

Otherwise I believe in stopping propaganda when nobody else can be bothered to do it. When Obama was accused of being a Muslim, you had dozens step up to note that he's not. If Trump was accused of being a Martian, nobody would bother objecting despite the obvious untruth and, if a lie is repeated enough, it's believed. Yes, even the Martian lie could be believed.

darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

Well, it's possible he could be racist because we don't know his heart, but he's not the other things.

Of those titles, only "sex offender" is the one you can definitively say he's not (pending resolution of several oustanding legal actions). "White supremacist" and "islamophobe" both also are based on opinion the same way as "racist", so if you're willing to leave open the possibility that Trump is a racist you also have to leave open the possibility of those two as well.

I don't ascribe any real meaning to the term islamophobe, it's pure foolishness. As for white supremacist, it's a label connected with an affiliation. If you're not affiliated, the label doesn't necessarily apply and whatever relevant connotations it might carry are already connected to the word racist.
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And still up
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I'm legitimately bothered by the lack of a serial comma.

SmokeMassTree posted...

And still up

You sound surprised.

Zeus posted...

I don't ascribe any real meaning to the term islamophobe, it's pure foolishness.

How is it foolish? It doesn't seem that complicated to me. An Islamophobe is someone who discriminates against Muslims. That's pretty straightforward.

Zeus posted...

As for white supremacist, it's a label connected with an affiliation. If you're not affiliated, the label doesn't necessarily apply and whatever relevant connotations it might carry are already connected to the word racist.

Disagree, although I can see the argument.

I don't think white supremacy requires affiliation; to me it just means a subset of "racist" (specifically, someone who thinks whites are better than all other races). A racist isn't necessarily a white supremacist (since you can be racist against specific races rather than just "all non-whites", or you could hold a different race as superior and both of those definitions would qualify as racist) but all white supremacists are, by definition, racist.
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Zeus posted...

Otherwise I believe in stopping propaganda when nobody else can be bothered to do it. When Obama was accused of being a Muslim, you had dozens step up to note that he's not. If Trump was accused of being a Martian, nobody would bother objecting despite the obvious untruth and, if a lie is repeated enough, it's believed. Yes, even the Martian lie could be believed.

On the contrary, a fair number of people would stand up to defend all Martians, fictional or potentially historical. They'd call such a claim an insult.

Also, some of us who clearly dislike Trump due to his own merits would simply say no. We would say to let him fall to his own merits, regardless of the comparisons or parallels that can be drawn to the likes of Emperor Nero.
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And it's still up

Mods officially biased
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Well I guess the bartender was correct when he told me this place sells

mixed

drinks.

SmokeMassTree posted...

And it's still up

Mods officially biased

Or, maybe, there's another reason it's still up.

Think carefully now... I'm sure it will come to you.
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Zeus posted...

Not that Trump is a white supremacist, a sex offender, racist, or "islamophobic"

Not a racist, you say?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/27/hillary-clinton/true-hillary-clinton-says-federal-government-sued-/

In one instance, a black man asked about two-bedroom apartments at Trump’s Westminster complex in Brooklyn on March 18, 1972, and a superintendent told him nothing was available. On March 19, 1972, the black man’s wife, who was white, visited the complex and was offered an application for a two-bedroom apartment on the spot.

The government lawyers also interviewed several people who said executives for Trump Management discouraged rental agents from renting to black people. In one case, the government said the company’s comptroller instructed a rental agent to attach a sheet of paper that said "C" for "colored" to every application submitted by a person of color.

Not a sex offender, you say?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/04/16/trump/P6jVWXAzaG12Ou5dPXYCDL/story.html

^ that's one of dozens of articles on the Molester-In-Chief. Some settlements, no convictions, some suits still pending. Where there's smoke, there's fire. "Grab 'em by the pussy" and all that, remember?

Not an islamophobe?

Why try to ban all travel from predominantly Muslim countries? An irrational fear that all Muslims are terrorists, of course! Never mind Ted Kaczinsky, Timothy McVeigh, or the dude who was thwarted this very week:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/oklahoma-man-charged-in-anti-government-bomb-plot/2017/08/14/97816686-80f9-11e7-ab27-1a21a8e006ab_story.html

Don't hear Trump saying we should be banning white men over fears of terrorism. Why? Because he's not scared of white people. He's scared of Muslims, because he's small-minded and ignorant.

Not a white supremacist, you say?

Sure does like to defend them as "fine people", though. Nothing says "I'm not a Nazi" like calling Nazis "fine people"
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Far-Queue posted...

Zeus posted...

Not that Trump is a white supremacist, a sex offender, racist, or "islamophobic"

Not a racist, you say?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/27/hillary-clinton/true-hillary-clinton-says-federal-government-sued-/

In one instance, a black man asked about two-bedroom apartments at Trump’s Westminster complex in Brooklyn on March 18, 1972, and a superintendent told him nothing was available. On March 19, 1972, the black man’s wife, who was white, visited the complex and was offered an application for a two-bedroom apartment on the spot.

The government lawyers also interviewed several people who said executives for Trump Management discouraged rental agents from renting to black people. In one case, the government said the company’s comptroller instructed a rental agent to attach a sheet of paper that said "C" for "colored" to every application submitted by a person of color.

Not a sex offender, you say?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/04/16/trump/P6jVWXAzaG12Ou5dPXYCDL/story.html

^ that's one of dozens of articles on the Molester-In-Chief. Some settlements, no convictions, some suits still pending. Where there's smoke, there's fire. "Grab 'em by the pussy" and all that, remember?

Not an islamophobe?

Why try to ban all travel from predominantly Muslim countries? An irrational fear that all Muslims are terrorists, of course! Never mind Ted Kaczinsky, Timothy McVeigh, or the dude who was thwarted this very week:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/oklahoma-man-charged-in-anti-government-bomb-plot/2017/08/14/97816686-80f9-11e7-ab27-1a21a8e006ab_story.html

Don't hear Trump saying we should be banning white men over fears of terrorism. Why? Because he's not scared of white people. He's scared of Muslims, because he's small-minded and ignorant.

Not a white supremacist, you say?

Sure does like to defend them as "fine people", though. Nothing says "I'm not a Nazi" like calling Nazis "fine people"

Don't expect any follow-up from Zeus. Once you present sources, he's out. Make sure to keep bumping the topic because he likes to hope the other party forgets to reply.
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No, sometimes he comes back even then with sheer nonsense, at which point, yes, you know the argument is over and you're better off--for time and sanity's sake--just walking away and hoping enough people were paying attention that they see and understand how the argument went.
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Not deleted yet
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Not deleted yet

Keep thinking this through. You'll figure it out! I believe in you!
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I already said why

The mods are obviously biased towards terrible presidents

I think they hate America
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SmokeMassTree posted...

I already said why

The mods are obviously biased towards terrible presidents

I think they hate America

Nope! Guess again...
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SmokeMassTree posted...

I already said why

The mods are obviously biased towards terrible presidents

I think they hate America

The mods are the bartender

SmokeMassTree posted...

I already said why

The mods are obviously biased towards terrible presidents

I think they hate America

Lmao, obama was a great president and trump is a mediocre one. He isn't terrible yet but who knows, he might end up being a great one. Only time will tell. I think your biased because you think obama is a muslim and therefor a terrible president. We just joking about trump, no matter how true it may be.
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I don't think he's a terrible president for hiding his religion.

He's a terrible president for Obama care being garbage to anyone who isn't sick, handicapped, or just fucking lazy. We are still experiencing the side effects. My insurance is garbage compared to what it was before obama care was signed. He also said the pay gap is real, which is worse than anything trump has ever said. He hates America tho so I didn't expect much.

Trump actually cares about America. Y'all can talk all the shit you want about him, but you know it's true.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

He [Obama] also said the pay gap is real, which is worse than anything trump has ever said.

lol

SmokeMassTree posted...

Trump actually cares about America.

LOL!

Trump cares about money and fame. That's it. If he can get richer and more famous, or he can get his rich friends richer, that's all he cares about being President for. Trump doesn't give a shit about you, or anyone else who isn't in a position to benefit him in some capacity. That sensitive sally is a walking, breathing, shitting ego hellbent on acquiring wealth and notoriety.
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"Winning and ruling are not the same" - Tywin Lannister
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SmokeMassTree posted...

I don't think he's a terrible president for hiding his religion.

Nope!

SmokeMassTree posted...

He's a terrible president for Obama care being garbage to anyone who isn't sick, handicapped, or just fucking lazy.

This is also called "insurance". The same way car insurance is worthless for good drivers and home insurance is terrible for people whose houses aren't in the process of being damaged or destroyed.

SmokeMassTree posted...

He also said the pay gap is real, which is worse than anything trump has ever said.

Nope!

SmokeMassTree posted...

He hates America tho

Nope!

SmokeMassTree posted...

Trump actually cares about America

Nope!
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