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Gaawa_chan posted...

I don't even have enough money to go to the doctor, so no.

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Judgmenl posted...

This topic is evidence to suggest CRT does not exist.

But I'm looking at a CRT right now and I just have to go down to the local eatery to see one on display.

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...what? That makes zero sense. You might as well say I'm the rightful ruler of China, and I'd have as much claim as the RoP.

I disagree but the point is moot. I'm making fun of the fact that he put China in quotation marks.

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thedicemaster posted...

AI isn't involved.
they don't detect new images.

your phone gets a list of "fingerprints" of confirmed bad images, and it makes a list of "fingerprints" of your images.
it then compares these lists to see if there are any matches.

your own pictures will never get flagged unless someone already got arrested with those pictures in their possession.

in your example "Sally" wouldn't get flagged unless "loli lover" got himself arrested and they found her photos on his phone or pc, and added those photos to the list.

although I'm wondering, maybe this could become a new method for "swatting".
hackers secretly sending people images that were doctored to match the fingerprint of images from the list.

That sounds even worse since it sounds like it won't catch any 'new' stuff and only stuff they already know about. I already don't trust identification software because people will post images of rocks that, somehow, trip just the right flags to get flagged as potential porn. That's not to mention it's only a matter of time before someone discovers it doesn't work properly on some racial group for whatever reason. It's just a bad deal through and through and through.

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FatalAccident posted...

Lol china

Agreed.

The Republic of China is the rightful rulers of the land and not the CCP.

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Monopoman posted...

I'm sorry 50k subs on Youtube is not internet famous, I think the barrier for that term is at least 500k and probably means more 1million or more.

No. It's the approval of Social Media and article writers. Get that and you can have 0 subs and be 'famous'.

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adjl posted...

There wouldn't really be a need for subjective judging, unless we bring Minecraft to the Olympics (... I might watch that >.>). Pretty much any competitive game has scoring and/or victory conditions built right into it.

Don't ruin my vision of them debating if the Korean team should be docked points for zerg rushing and spamming 'kekekekek' as 'unsportsmanlike conduct'.

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So how do they tell the difference between, say, a mother who took a photo of their kid swimming naked because it's a cherished memory (somehow), a child who took a nude selfie (for some dumb reason. they're kids), and actual child porn? Plus what about all the times they'll, say, call the police because someone took a pic of something that vaguely resembled that and their AI mis-identified it?

Even if you're heavily in favor of this I just don't feel AI's are advanced enough to be even remotely viable... And I am MASSIVELY against this!

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

I voted in favor just because I want to see the Olympic Committee try to 'grade' something like Pokemon in the same manner that they grade gymnastics.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

The gimp he rode into town on was named Friday.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Maybe you should all just nominate one person to make all the decisions. Give him a few people to make sure those decisions are carried out. All will be okay!

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Do you imbibe the nectar of the Gaming Gods, Mountain Dew, regularly? Do you consume the manna that is Doritos for your gaming lifestyle?

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Lokarin posted...

Anarcho-communism probably could work now - all systems rely on exploiting the weakest and we're in an era where the working class is outright simping for abuse

Sorry but that's not the case.

The issue is that the fundimental basic needs of a society still need to be met. We still need people to go out to grow crops, raise animals, mine ores, and that's not even including things such as paving roads, building houses, electrical work, running power plants, and so-forth.

Increasing automation has drastically increased the productivity of the individual worker but it hasn't removed the worker from the equation. Even when those basic needs are met you will still need people to go out and do things such as design the luxuries you, doubtless, consider yourself to be spending time enjoying. Someone has to MAKE those video games, movies, shows, and so-forth and even the most die-hard creative would probably refuse to make a product if they didn't believe there's be some monetary reward at the end of it. So even in a society in which all basic needs can be met cheaply or even freely there will not only be a division of labor required but also systems to reward those who do opt to sacrifice their time to create.

The reality is that, not only is anarcho-communism not possible yet, but if it does become possible in the future it will likely be in a form we simply can't comprehend as of yet. What I personally suspect is a 'planetary colony' model in which colonists, in return for cheap/free goods, are sent off to planets and asteroids to develop them for habitation.

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I didn't even know what 'ROC' was until last night, so not closely at all.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Snarky, somewhat-insulting, retort to first post.

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Is that possible?

I was one of the first people to beat the online Bionicle game. I remember rushing online every day to check to see if they had added a new chapter and watched as they progressed from Gali to all the others. Kopaka was the last IIRC before they added the weird RPG bit right at the end. I think it was meant to advertise the Mask of Light.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Lokarin posted...

Mainly because an analysis of American culture doesn't tend to have practical application to ancient China.

This is modern day, right now, China I'm discussing. And it does because it means you've effectively made up a definition to further a point that doesn't make sense.

wydrah posted...

I do not think you know what cultural hegemony is.

Yes, non-European countries have been colonizers as well. But European colonialism is far more prevalent and damaging on a global scale. So of course that's my focus, particularly on a topic about racism in America, which also happens to be the strongest empire the world has ever known.

You want to discuss exceptions as if they are the rule.

I do know what it is. I also know you don't have an argument because you can't give viable definitions that don't invalidate your arguments. You've changed what defines colonialism three times minimum in this topic alone to suit your choice of a narrative and, frankly, only the one Lokarin gave holds any water. You're throwing around terms like 'damaging' without defining what that actually means, talking about how it's damaging on a global scale yet saying you're definitions only apply on a national scale, and discussing exceptions as if they are exceptions instead of simply part of a rule that's larger than your tiny definition allows for. Your own hyper-focusing on one specific set of colonial powers (and, let's be honest, you haven't really talked about the French, Spanish, Portuguese, or even the English outside of specifically American colonial issues.) means we have no choice BUT to speak about exceptions to a rule because you'll only talk about one example!

All for what? So you can say an Irish man who fled to America during the potato famines is part of a cultural hegemony that groups him in the same group as the English he fled from? That a family who lost members to the Nazi's are the same as them because they're part of a cultural hegemon? That the solution to past discrimination is present discrimination and the solution to present discrimination is future discrimination like a racist Ouroboros?

You're clinging to an ideology that only exists in a vacuum, can only define itself through struggle and oppression, ignores reality, and does nothing but spread strife and misery. You can't even account for what happens in other countries without having to rework how your entire vocabulary works simply because it ONLY works in an extremely specific time, place, and viewpoint! By the logic presented I could claim almost any group is a member of the oppressed and the oppressor because, shockingly, history isn't some neat little box in which one group of people are universal monsters simply because they fit into a cultural hegemon.

There's tons of people in America who aren't racist yet would fit in your definition of 'white'. People who work hard to help their friends and family, who love, care, and help people in need of help. You are saying that this is all irrelevant and that they are oppressors. What of yourself? Do YOU fit the classification of 'white'?

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

The switch easily.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Lokarin posted...

Colonialism is the act of a nation controlling a vassal nation or state, either through military or economic force (or any force, really) to exploit their natural and/or material exports.

For example, the interference with democracy in central america to install pro-american dictators in nations with fertile growing land to export bananas.

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As for white, it depends on the context - however, in the context of CRT which addresses SPECIFICALLY American issues, white just means the naturalized majority.

If you apply the principals of CRT to other nations then 'white' becomes a misnomer

Then it has nothing to do inherently with westernization, western values, exportation of culture, and isn't confined to Europe in the slightest as what China is doing to the Uyghur muslims and Tibet certainly qualifies as well as what the Soviets did to Eastern Europe.

Also, if the definition changes based on what nation we are observing, it is not a good definition. If I can define 'white' as 'africans' by choosing, say, Zimbabwe or some other African nation as well as Han Chinese in China or basically any other group in the majority in any nation, I would say it's simply invalid as a definition.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

wydrah posted...

also does not mean exclusively. if you want an exhaustive definition, go read a fuckin book

How ironic. Telling me to go read a book when you get caught up changing definitions. Here is your definition, in full, that you provided.

Colonialism is not simply violent oppression and slavery. It's also the Westernization of non-European (descended) societies. I said colonialism "exports" European culture. More modernly, American culture is exported. Our corporate brands--Disney, Coca-Cola, McDonalds--are not only recognized worldwide, but adopted, imitated, etc. And when the world is consuming our media, for example, they are consuming our culture, and will inevitably reshape some of their own culture according to it.

You also made sure to specify that:

This is different than, say, the Pokemon craze in the United States. Although we are consuming Japanese culture, this is not colonial due to the power imbalance. And there is a long history of this. We can look back to the 1850s when Matthew Perry demanded Japan end its isolationist policy of sakoku by trading with the United States. His forces totally outmatched Japanese forces, not unlike how Cortes' forces dwarfed the Aztecs. Another example, obviously, would be the Potsdam Declaration, which was a formal Westernization of Japan.

In your own definition, that you provided, you made it clear that it:

1) Exports European Culture

2) Involves westernization of non-europeans

3) Could happen when a culture isn't colonized but simply through colonial export.

However you then turned around and said that it didn't apply when there was a power imbalance. You also cited how America opened up Japan in the 1850's for trade as proof of this imbalance and ignored entirely how Japan had changed and grown as a country to the point where, in the 1940's, it was its own colonial empire that went toe-to-toe with America but I shouldn't be surprised that you're cherry-picking at this point.

Because you can't remain consistent. If colonialization, like in your earlier statement, isn't exclusively European then the whole notion of westernization, export of European culture, and that it can happen through the export of western products falls apart. However if it is an exclusively European thing that requires those things then you are willfully ignoring things like the Mongols, Ottomans, China, Soviets and the like who engaged in practices that would, by any sane and consistent definition, be considered colonialism.

So come on. Give me a straight, consistent, definition. What is colonialism? What is 'white'?

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

wydrah posted...

Colonialism is not limited to only European. I was merely talking within the context of European hegemony.

Colonialism is not simply violent oppression and slavery. It's also the Westernization of non-European (descended) societies.

Pick a definition and stick with it. Either colonialism is European-exclusive or it isn't.

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Put them under house arrest.

Then you need to give them a house so they can be put under house arrest.

Problem solved.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

wydrah posted...

Okay, let's back up. How are we defining "colonialism"? We probably have different definitions.

Colonialism is not simply violent oppression and slavery. It's also the Westernization of non-European (descended) societies. I said colonialism "exports" European culture. More modernly, American culture is exported. Our corporate brands--Disney, Coca-Cola, McDonalds--are not only recognized worldwide, but adopted, imitated, etc. And when the world is consuming our media, for example, they are consuming our culture, and will inevitably reshape some of their own culture according to it.

This is different than, say, the Pokemon craze in the United States. Although we are consuming Japanese culture, this is not colonial due to the power imbalance. And there is a long history of this. We can look back to the 1850s when Matthew Perry demanded Japan end its isolationist policy of sakoku by trading with the United States. His forces totally outmatched Japanese forces, not unlike how Cortes' forces dwarfed the Aztecs. Another example, obviously, would be the Potsdam Declaration, which was a formal Westernization of Japan.

I'm not reading the rest of what you wrote because it's not worth my time to break down every single thing that's wrong with it. I feel like I already put in a lot of effort into this bullshit.

That is an unacceptable definition.

Firstly, it ensures that a colonial power can ONLY be European. This is why I listed multiple empires which engaged in similar practices that were not European (and some of which even tried to colonize Europe). If a nation did literally everything you described but existed in South America instead of Europe by your definition it couldn't be a colonial power or be engaging in colonialism. A nation that doesn't attempt to westernize couldn't be considered a colonial power. What England has done to Ireland in the past couldn't be considered 'colonial' because Ireland is a westernized nation already. Heck, in theory on an alien planet a nation could do literally everything you're describing and still fail to meet the criteria because the dominate powers are on the South in their world. This definition is a purely political one that is sorely lacking outside of pushing a narrative.

Secondly it, extremely wrongly, conflates cultural EXPORT with cultural SURPRESSION. If a company like Coke makes a desirable product and exports it, possibly even destroying local brands, that's the result of a free market at work and not some white ethnostate oppressing poor locals (especially since this can happen between westernized nations).

Thirdly this definition ignores that other cultures are capable of exporting said culture as well. We're currently seeing manga and anime, distinctly Japanese products, outright crush 'western' alternatives in America. Middle Eastern, Chinese, and Indian food markets have found firm niches. Yet you would say that this is not the same simply due to 'a power imbalance' ignoring that this is simply not how international trade works and, even if it somehow was, that local markets are not required to buy their product over local alternatives. Coke can undercut a local soda brand. Coke cannot force you to drink it's product. Even when it undercuts it manages this through having both a desirable product and a large enough revenue base to absorb such an impact and not, as CRT would imply, through some form of racial advantage afforded to it for being a 'westernized company'.

Colonies exist for one purpose and one purpose alone. To extract wealth, resources, and the like for the home country. As such the very notion of colonization would need to reflect that. However every nation has treated their colonies extremely differently. For example the Spanish effectively stripmined their nations warping the land and people groups for the purposes of the crown while, in comparison, the French were loathe to leave their homeland and saw colonies almost as more glorified trading ports. However the best, most accurate, and acceptable definition is that 'colonization' is the method by which a colonial power exerts its control over the indigenous people of an area; often displacing them and replacing local governments with ones representative of the power.

This was things such as the Chinese colonization of Tibet, what the Soviets did to Eastern Europe, what the Japanese did, and what many historical powers did where they moved into a land in which they were not native, oppressed the local people groups, forced them into submission, and frequently destroyed any local culture cannot escape your terms simply because we're talking about, say, ancient Persia and Israel (which would not qualify under your definition because they are not European) or the Roman conquests of basically everyone (since there was no 'westernization' to speak of at the time).

Gaawa_chan posted...

... but it's literally designed to specifically examine American law and history, because America's relationship to the trans-atlantic slave trade and its race relations are unique (same goes for a lot of countries, but the point is that a more generic framework would not give the same insight).

It's always so telling when people who have no idea what CRT is start whining about it. It's literally related to the work of American heroes like Frederick Douglass, but people keep acting as though it's some sort of communist revisionist plot. It's not.

And let me guess 'real communism hasn't been tried' as well?

No one is disputing that America's history with racial relations has been... strained... at best. I mean the civil rights act only happened in the 1960's, we had a civil war over it, and the south basically rebelled against England because they were afraid that increasing English influence would result in their slaves being freed. However the solution to that isn't to cram all white people (some of which have some VERY strongly negative feelings about each other due to their histories) into a single homogenous group, proclaim they have all the power when many of them have ancestors who came to America specifically because they had NO power, claim they all engage in a racist system, and then redefine words and change history to non-sense meanings whenever someone points out that they don't make sense.

I mean, you guys haven't even defined what 'white' even IS yet. Just said that society defines that.

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Anyways. I've said my piece. I can never, and will never, agree with a viewpoint that so terribly misrepresents history, reality, and slaps both my personal history and relationships and my family's history and relationships in the face. I'm going to go calm down and enjoy some peaceful game for a while.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

MrMelodramatic posted...

^ why does Japanese empiricism matter on a discussion about racism in America? America was colonized by Europeans. No one is saying that a single social framework (like CRT) is a fits-all-situations lens for how society works.

Because a viewpoint like CRT can't function if it acknowledges that Europeans aren't the only colonial power in the world and similar, identical, and even worse colonial powers have existed; including among the very same groups that they are claiming are oppressed.

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wydrah posted...

While I agree that class struggle is ultimately the more significant struggle, I also acknowledge that white supremacy is real. The world was colonized by Europeans, so yes, European hegemony is real. And obvious?

Why can't both struggles be fought?

Also, why is the dominant culture in China at all relevant to white supremacism in the United States?

Because that's not true.

Firstly you are taking a viewpoint that can ONLY exist in a vacuum. For example, Japan was never colonized by Europe and, instead, became it's own colonial power dominating much of China and the Pacific Ocean (amazingly brutally I might add) yet no acknowledgement is made about such things.

Secondly, it completely ignores basically any form of history. Since, otherwise, it would also need to acknowledge that Europe was, effectively, colonized by the Muslims (Spain), Mongols, and Ottomans at various points among others. Or that not every European power was a colonial one (Poland). Or that Europeans HAD a united identity that was even slightly racially aligned especially along modern, AMERICAN, axis.

Thirdly, it's a gross misrepresentation of reality as it's presenting a class struggle as a racial one. That's simply not what's happening and, assuming the absolute best, is something that ONLY applies to one nation in one specific viewpoint.

Fourthly, it is horrifically offensive to ethnic groups who have also suffered at the hands of the very things you say white people are doing, yet were of the wrong skin color, and you are now saying they are the same as their oppressors BECAUSE of their skin color. Go up to an Irish man and say he's racially, morally, religiously, and so-forth identical to an Englishman and therefore not only never been oppressed but is an oppressor. See how well that goes.

And FINALLY, this whole thing, it's a complete, total, monstrous, slap in the face to any person of European descent who ISN'T racist! People who have formed close bonds and friendships with PoC's, possibly due to things such as mutual suffering, poverty, persecution, and so-forth, are being told, by a woman who admits to being uncomfortable around black people no less, that they're JUST as bad as she is and need to admit it and get over it. I can't think of anything that would make me more enraged than being told that I am in the same group of racists that she is, despite living my life surrounded by african americans, native americans, hispanics, asians, and so-forth, living a lifestyle of the poor, with family who were expunged BY the nazi's AND the communists AND were displaced by the English.

That book isn't worth the fire needed to burn it. That woman isn't worth the air she breaths. She's nothing more than a racist spewing racist ideas being co-opted by marxists who feast on strife for their own power. If you honestly think the solution to a problem like discrimination is MORE discrimination then might I suggest replacing water with gasoline in fire hoses or that the solution to fascists is more fascism, just against fascists?

History isn't some neat little package like whatever your college professor told you it was. The Irish were treated like garbage in America despite 'being white' and the same happened to groups like the Polish and Italians. Heck, Columbus Day, the day so many people rally against now, came about because Italians were being killed and they wanted to try and make some unified connection between them and the rest of America. Not because he enslaved people or whatever dumb reason the haters think; but because they wanted to promote UNITY between Americans and Italians.

So, instead of talking about this racist woman, you instead try to champion someone like Crispus Attucks? Or elevate a figure like John Henry to the same level as Johnny Appleseed or Davey Crockett? The multitudes of blacks who fought for the Union, or in WWI or WWII in spite of racism? Or in modern times, Daryl Davis who got multiple KKK members to leave and change their ways by befriending them?

Because otherwise you're stuck promoting a terrible ideology made by a racist woman and effectively flipping the damned middle finger at me every time I see a nazi/soviet bullet hole in my family tree.

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wydrah posted...

Idk where you're going with this, but societies do not exist in a vacuum, especially when we consider the ramification of colonialism "exporting" European culture globally.

Because various societies are radically different across the world. What is true for an American society doesn't hold true for, say, China where the 'oppressed minority' would be various religious groups (muslims, christians), ethnic groups such as Tibetans, and political dissidents. What you are effectively saying is that there is one society, European, that is utterly dominate and all others are attempting to imitate it. Either that or you are taking a struggle of CLASS and applying it to RACE then applying said resulting system on a global level to ALL cultures with no regards for their society, history, culture, or anything else about them. Something EXTREMELY emblematic of a 'white savior' complex.

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wydrah posted...

Race is a social construct. So, society.

So then what is true for one society does not hold true for another society. Correct?

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

wydrah posted...

you do not need to be white to willfully perpetuate white supremacy. Nor to be fragile about criticism against it.

So then what defines being white?

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

wydrah posted...

So fragile.

Who says I'm white?

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

wydrah posted...

i also want to point out the hypocrisy of someone who has read zero CRT calling someone who has actually studied CRT lazy

honk honk

You mean the book written by a woman who admitted she feels uncomfortable around african americans?

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HornedLion posted...

So I called a hit on my creepy crawly friends. These are the chemicals theyre using.

Borid
Orthoboric Acid
CB-80-Extra
Pyrethrum
Drione
Silica Gel & Pyrethrin
Gentrol
Hydroprene
MaxForce Magnum
Fipronil
Suspend SC
Deltamethrin

Anything I should be afraid of besides the fact that MaxForce Magnum sounds like a male pornstar?

I'm pretty sure it's a type of condom.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

1) Japan is NOT a small island. It's basically the side of the East Coast of the U.S. and is stupidly heavily populated.

2) Putting that aside, being an island nation has nothing to do with how well you are at sports. They're winning through hard work.

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hypnox posted...

The biggest example is Harry Potter. Why do wizards insist on living with outdated technology and not get with the times? I mean I know they can do magic, but there's other things that would make their quality of life better, and I never understood why they always refuse to embrace it.

Well, the books imply that the wizarding world became hyper-insular following, presumably, the witch trials as a way to protect itself. To them it's a defensive measure meant to keep themselves secretive that, unfortunately, results in them being largely cut off from technology. I mean, can you imagine just how swiftly Hogwarts would be exposed in the modern era thanks to social media and a bunch of dumb kids/tweens posting to twitter, tiktok, and whatever else? If you wanna stay secret best to just outlaw phones for all except a very small portion of trustworthy people.

But, in a more general sense, it's because no one would take, say, a camp made specifically for demigods if the daughters of Diana were learning to hunt with modern hunting rifles and drone scouting instead of a bow and arrow. Or a magic school that teaches kids spells in Latin but doesn't have a course about how to speak Latin. It not only breaks the immersion but ruins the whole point of what makes the society special in the first place.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

People get cause and effect screwed up ALL the time. I mean, a huge factor of the Black Death getting as bad as it did was people thinking cats were the problem. The reality was that cats were following and eating the rats that were carrying the fleas, so with the cats gone the plague BOOMED. Of course places that weren't affected by the plague didn't have as many rats and, thusly, didn't have as many cats... But people assumed that meant CATS were the problem and not RATS.

But really, pick any period in human history and you'll see people blaming something unrelated, or even helping, for something HURTING just because. Millennials aren't immune or free of blame by any means either. You'll see plenty of people pointing to a problem and blaming something else instead of the actual source of the problem.

Here's a simple rule of thumb. People will always find a way to blame something they hate and defend something they approve of regardless of the reality of the situation. Every time. It's why there's crazy people who are blaming 5G for COVID.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

There's a few magic classes with pets that can tank for a time; but none that I can think of that have been a true 'magic tank'.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

1) Gamefaqs was originally launched back in 1995. This means it predates things such as Google and many other internet mainstays and makes it one of the older sites on the internet.

2) Gamefaqs has run a total of 21 contests over the years. Of those 12 have had Legend of Zelda win in some capacity.

3) Likewise there have been three upset victories in L-Block, Undertale, and Draven.

4) ??? is currently the highest user level obtainable by karma. It requires over 10,000 karma to obtain. I am currently a sage nearing 4,000 and have had this account since 2010 if you want to know how long that takes to accumulate.

5) Gamefaqs hosts FAQS for games on over 130 different consoles. Admittedly no one cares about the Wonderswan Color among many other consoles though...

That's all I got for Gamefaqs... So for the remainder...

6) There is a species of spider called the 'Hobo Spider'.

7) The deadliest species to humans is not snakes or even other humans but, rather, mosquitos.

8) Despite what you might thing, chihuahua's are actually one of the least inbred dog species in existence. Sadly, due to the massive amount of inbreeding in dog breeds, they are still stupidly inbred even with that distinction.

9) When the Cascadia fault triggered on January 26, 1700 it was so massive it caused a tsunami that traveled all the way to Japan.

10) In September of 2020 we observed an x-ray eclipse in the Whirlpool Galaxy. This may be the first extra-galactic planet discovered!

Any suggestions for a fact topic for future days? Thoughts? ETC?

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Revelation34 posted...

A 13 year old doesn't know what they are doing. A 31 year old fanfiction writer clearly doesn't know what they are doing since they are writing fanfiction.

Well, the fact is that, if you're looking at a fanfic a 31 YO wrote to be part of their personal pleasure collection; you shouldn't be shocked when you see Spock, Kirk, and McCoy suddenly start disrobing or when Lara Croft finds a relic that unleashes tentacles or whatever. While it may be bad writing odds are it was written with the express purpose of being part of a personal pleasure collection and was never marketed or intended to be anything else. Note: I am excluding the latter group I mentioned from this (as they're a different matter entirely).

But the 13 YO crowd legit believes what they're writing is 'good' writing. Even ignoring the issue with experience/skill their 13 YO unoriginal character who is an edgelord with either a childish view of good and evil or doing horrific things thinking they're 'right/good' or whatever else is something they believe to be legitimately GOOD. So when they make a character that expunges X group of people that they disagree with they honestly think it's a good deed. They honestly believe that having something like a demon blade compelling them to do evil (often times which they engage in without hesitation) makes them a 'tortured soul' instead of a psychopath who was just waiting for an excuse.

I'm not saying you need to write perfectly from the get-go (especially as a 13 YO; barely a teen) but if I had to choose between some horny housewife writing a Fox/Falco piece that was never intended to be more than a wet fantasy dream and someone who makes the most generic BA tortured soul character who legitimately doesn't understand why exterminating gays/homophobes/whatever group they despise is a BAD thing (not to mention that the group is almost exclusively mega stereotypes), I'd choose the horny housewife. Especially if Wolf joined in at the last second.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

If what I said is wrong, please offer the correct answer so that I can learn it and adjust.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Zeus posted...

All fan fiction is cringey.

How many alts have you burned through so far harassing RK?

Disagree. Some of it IS well written. That stuff is almost never the 18+ stuff.

Anyways. On topic. The 13 is more cringy. Ignoring that a 31 year old has had time to, hopefully, practice their writing skill the fact is a 13 YO has a very... bad... idea of what constitutes 'good' writing. It's the kind of thing that results in edgelords who think darkness and evil are cool and that being 'misunderstood' is a rare thing that's never been done before and that their OC, who is pretty much just a petulant child lashing out in all directions and being evul because evuls is kewl but is really a good character at the end of the day and NOT something that's been seen six-billion times. The 31 YO stuff tends to just be some adult who wanted a cheesy schlock fest and, well, it might be cringy but not only is it usually at least slightly better written but it was never going to not be cringy. Looking at someone's personal pleasure piece and finding it to be little more than a personal pleasure piece is not shocking.

I WILL say, though, that there is a certain kind of 31 YO fan fic writer that's infinitely more cringy though and it's usually the one that basically turns whatever the source was into their own personal SJW fest and, if you dare to disagree, you're basically every thing bad under the sun and so-forth. However I feel that group is so exceedingly... distinct... that they should be mentioned separately from the normal writers in either age group.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

1) The oldest know civilization is the San people in Africa. They are believed to have come about in 140,000 BC.

2) Chemotroph's are believed to have been the first organism to exist on Earth. They are small organisms that obtain their nutrients from underwater geothermal vents.

3) The Clovus people are believed to have been the first people to arrive in the Americas from the Old World. They crossed over the Alaskan land bridge appx. 13,000 years ago to populate the two continents.

4) The City of Eridu, located in modern-day Iraq, is considered to have been the first city made by humans. The city is currently abandoned and little more than ruins; probably a good thing considering what happened when Saddam tried to rebuild Babylon.

5) Hinduism is considered to be the worlds first and oldest surviving religion. While various tribal beliefs existed beforehand Hinduism, founded appx. 2,300 BC, is likely both the first and oldest true religion. The next oldest that is still around today, Judaism, is believed to have been founded in only 600 BC. However there are many tribal beliefs, extinct religions, and unclear foundation dates for other religions.

6) The first item sold using a bar code was a pack of Wrigley's Chewing Gum in 1974. It was selected specifically because no one was certain they could print a bar code on something that small.

7) The worlds first computer programmer is considered to be Ada Lovelace who died in 1852. She designed a program to be used for use in Babbage's computer. However, as Babbage never finished building the device the worlds first computer programmer outdates the worlds first computer (the Z1) by over a century.

8) The worlds oldest known song, Hurrian Hymn to Nikkal, is believed to have been made in 1,400 BC. While this is the oldest known song few records survive from so long ago and modern musical notation is relatively recent. For all we known ancient people could have been listening to the Crab Rave!

9) The worlds oldest known bad review is 3,800 years old and details the complaints of one Nanni who had been delivered bad copper by a merchant by the name of 'Ea-Nasir'. He was such a bad businessman that multiple complaints about him and his terrible copper have survived to modern times and include things such as a failure to deliver copper. Nanni's complaint is as follows:

'Tell Ea-nasir: Nanni sends the following message:

When you came, you said to me as follows: I will give Gimil-Sin (when he comes) fine quality copper ingots. You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put ingots which were not good before my messenger (Sit-Sin) and said: If you want to take them, take them; if you do not want to take them, go away!

What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty-handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) mina of silver which I owe you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of copper, and umi-abum has likewise given 1,080 pounds of copper, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Samas.

How have you treated me for that copper? You have withheld my money bag from me in enemy territory; it is now up to you to restore (my money) to me in full.

Take cognizance that (from now on) I will not accept here any copper from you that is not of fine quality. I shall (from now on) select and take the ingots individually in my own yard, and I shall exercise against you my right of rejection because you have treated me with contempt.

10) The worlds oldest known joke dates back to 1600 BC in ancient Sumar. Be prepared to be blown away by how amazing it is! "Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husbands lap."

Any suggestions for a fact topic for future days? Thoughts? ETC?

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Wanded posted...

yeah but the point is to contrast both questions on the same people and hear them justify answers side by side, most libs say yes to ops question and no to my question claiming it's different, when i ask them why they either go i dunno or make olympic gold medal mental gymnastics to justify it, the kids argument has some merit, but even if i concede it they're pretty much still saying people who don't want kids and don't wanna date trans are transphobic, in other words they're answer isn't "no" but actually "yes, with the exception of".

I'm saying that it's way more complicated than what a simple 'yes/no' answer could provide. If I had to pick I'd say 'no' but even then that's more me saying 'there's not enough info' than 'it's not transphobic'.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Wanded posted...

you can surrogate through a medical process
with time it will probably be possible to create a baby from 2 males or 2 females, definitely before what you were talking about, what then

Who can say what the future holds? We're already seeing that ones online identity is becoming more and more 'real', artificial body parts are becoming increasingly capable, and who knows what else will happen in the future? I don't know what will happen or how people will act and/or react. There's so many moral issues and questions that I can't even begin to speculate on. Like if it's morally acceptable to modify an unborn being, effectively screening out 'undesirable' traits in favor of desirable ones. I'm not going to pretend like I can fully grasp what sort of issues might arise when we become capable of doing what you are suggesting.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Wanded posted...

adoption is a thing

Yes. But not every family wants to adopt. Feel free to chalk it up to us being big, dumb, stupid apes but propagating the bloodline and passing on our genes is important to us as a species.

Options exist, such as adoption or a surrogate or something, but not everyone is going to be comfortable watching their SO have sex with someone else to have a child or will treat an adopted child like they're their own. Just because something is POSSIBLE doesn't mean it's ideal, will work, etc.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Wanded posted...

now ask if not dating a trans person is transphobic and watch people flip

I mean, that assumes the reason a person is dating, assumes that the reason they rejected is transphobia, and assumes that a particular mindset that is not universal is the CORRECT mindset. If you have a woman who is dating specifically because she wants to settle down and start a family only to find out that the person she's dating is not only not able to provide that but isn't even a man, I wouldn't blame her for at least being extremely upset as a result. I can also see a partner seeing it as a matter of trust and secrets and some people will definitely feel tricked no matter WHAT the outcome...

And it's going to get a lot more complicated in the future. At some point what we currently define as 'trans' may be seen as abhorrent and archaic because someone wishing to transition can simply transfer their mind to a new body; or we'll become increasingly digitalized to the point where changing your entire body is as simple as creating a new character in a video game, or become so cyber/robotic that changing your sex is little different than changing out a chasse on a car. I mean, can you imagine how different life will be once the only thing stopping you from being a Miqo'te for all practical intents and purposes is adjusting a slider? Or transitioning is just a matter of uploading your mind into a new body or scheduling an appointment at your local autobody shop? The car mechanics of today becoming the gender transition surgeons of tomorrow...

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Decoy77 posted...

Not being interested in a person due to the color of their skin isn't racist. Some people like girls with big boobs some small boobs. Doesn't mean they hate the opposite kind, they just aren't attracted to it. Some people like short girls other taller girls. Doesn't mean they hate the opposite kind. Some are attracted to white girls some to black some to asian, etc, etc. Doesn't mean you hate the others just not something you are attracted to. Like red heads, blondes, black hair, and on and on and on.

I think the thing that's throwing people for a loop is the difference between 'I do not find this trait personally attractive' and 'this person is unattractive'. Especially since it's possible to find someone physically unattractive in one aspect but either not have it be a major degree of unattractiveness to the point where they still wouldn't want to be with that person. Plus remember this isn't consistent between the sexes. I.E. someone may find the phenotype of an asian woman attractive but the phenotype of an asian man unattractive in whatever context 'attractive' could be used in.

Ultimately I think the only real answer would be that there just isn't enough information in the question and the question itself is invalid because it makes multiple assumptions. It's effectively asking you to assume all the traits about an entire race hold true for a specific individual, rate that individuals appeal as a mate based entirely on physical attributes, then heavily skews any negative responses towards an assumption of racism.

For example, when it comes to Japanese people there's a MASSIVE amount of variety for both sexes. What is actually 'consistent' for a 'Japanese' person? Hair? Not all of them have straight, black, hair even though it is the dominate kind and there's a ton of varieties of things one can do with their hair. Skin tone? There's a variety of those even if they don't reach towards the darker end of the spectrum. Do I assume a Japanese woman has a small chest? A Japanese man is not muscular? That MIGHT be true on the average but no sane person would question for a second that exceptions exist.

The more I think about it the problem is that the question itself forces you to adopt a mindset dominated by assumptions made about a people group that don't hold true individually then judge an individual by those same assumptions (which may or may not hold true). If I said 'I wouldn't date an African-American man' I have to make MULTIPLE assumptions about what constitutes an 'African American' to answer either in the positive or negative.

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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage