Current Events > Does Colin Kaepernick have a case about NFL 'collusion' to blacklist him?

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toyota
09/08/18 7:36:00 AM
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It was obvious they all agreed to shove that guy out of the league because he was hurting the NFL brand that was making him money, but how is it any different to anybody else basically being fired for fucking shit up for a business?

Arent 'on call' staff members basically phased out in a similar matter, where if enough workplaces have a problem with a certain on call staff member then they just basically stop giving them work?

Plus from what I recall dude was becoming very average at best and only became somewhat relevant with his kneeling business
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Coffeebeanz
09/08/18 7:37:06 AM
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His stats are pretty mediocre, objectively speaking.
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bkkorps
09/08/18 7:39:37 AM
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000957720/article/bills-starting-qb-nathan-peterman-week-1-vs-ravens

yeah, he has a case.
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Coolppl Owns
09/08/18 7:55:10 AM
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Yes and I hope he wins
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/08/18 7:57:56 AM
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Coolppl Owns posted...
Yes and I hope he wins

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VipaGTS
09/08/18 8:01:52 AM
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All he has to do is point at the Buffalo Bills QB situation. Hes better than everyone they have.
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masticatingman
09/08/18 8:03:01 AM
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The NFL blacklisted him to a point (he's still had interviews and tryouts since his last snap - you can say they didn't mean shit but they still happened), yes, but to legally prove that owners colluded against him in a joint decision not to hire him is a different ball game. As far as blacklisting goes, many, many able-bodied players have been blacklisted from the league. If Kaepernick wins his case, he'll get a lot of money. If he doesn't, he'll still get years of publicity from doing as much. Without the case being an ongoing entity, he really wouldn't justify continued media coverage beyond occasional pieces. So it doesn't really matter to him what happens.
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KamenRiderBlade
09/08/18 8:16:54 AM
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The NFL and anybody associated with it is not obligated to employ him.

Working for the NFL is a privilege, not a right.
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tennisdude818
09/08/18 8:19:37 AM
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I guess leftist is a protected class now?
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frozenshock
09/08/18 8:22:14 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
I guess leftist is a protected class now?


Yes.

Unlike you guys, leftists actually fight for their rights.

Too bad if you didn't fight to be a protected class too.
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tennisdude818
09/08/18 8:24:14 AM
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frozenshock posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
I guess leftist is a protected class now?


Yes.

Unlike you guys, leftists actually fight for their rights.

Too bad if you didn't fight to be a protected class too.


They run to the government to force other people to do what they want. They fight to violate other peoples rights.
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Unsugarized_Foo
09/08/18 8:26:13 AM
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He's getting pretty far in the courts despite some of the richest men in the world wagging their finger at him
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frozenshock
09/08/18 8:26:25 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
frozenshock posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
I guess leftist is a protected class now?


Yes.

Unlike you guys, leftists actually fight for their rights.

Too bad if you didn't fight to be a protected class too.


They run to the government to force other people to do what they want. They fight to violate other peoples rights.


Yep. And there's nothing you can do to stop us.

In fact, I have the government on speed dial. You better hide your rights because the government are on their way to violate them.
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ScionTC_07
09/08/18 8:28:46 AM
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if he didnt.... his case wouldnt even make it this far
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KamenRiderBlade
09/08/18 8:31:39 AM
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frozenshock posted...
Yep. And there's nothing you can do to stop us.
It's cute that you believe that

In fact, I have the government on speed dial.
We'll make sure to block your phone specifically

You better hide your rights because the government are on their way to violate them.
We're calling the FBI on you, you seem like a sexual predator.
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omega cookie
09/08/18 8:33:59 AM
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All they have to do is tell the truth. He isn't good enough to offset the media circus he would bring. Unless he has tangible, credible proof of collusion beyond "They started guys worse than me", he's fucked.
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KamenRiderBlade
09/08/18 8:35:36 AM
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omega cookie posted...
All they have to do is tell the truth. He isn't good enough to offset the media circus he would bring. Unless he has tangible, credible proof of collusion beyond "They started guys worse than me", he's fucked.
I'm sure he's going to be black listed from all of professional sports at this point at any level.

Nobody will take him in anymore.
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DifferentialEquation
09/08/18 8:36:55 AM
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Could the "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences!" crowd defending Kaepernick explain how this is different from all those times that you cheered for companies firing people for expressing opinions you don't like?
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EternalDivide
09/08/18 8:42:17 AM
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All of the owners didn't want some side show ass clown on their team drawing negative attention and not offsetting that with good play. That's common sense.
The owners did not all call each other or get together and collectively say "You know that Kaepernick guy? Well fuck him. Let's make a pact that we blackball him." That's collusion.

That's on top of the fact that he willingly left the 49ers.
He does not have a case to prove collusion. I'm sure some activist judge will allow it to go to court but there's no chance of him winning because it's impossible to prove.

It's like arguing 32 different companies didn't hire an acne riddled 400 pound man who spouts anti jewish rhetoric on twitter to be their spokesperson because they all got together and decided not to. No. They all made the same decision independently because of fucking course they would all arrive at that same conclusion.
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known2FAIL
09/08/18 8:42:51 AM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Coolppl Owns posted...
Yes and I hope he wins

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frozenshock
09/08/18 8:42:53 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
We're calling the FBI on you, you seem like a sexual predator.


Muahahahahaha sorry you haven't been paying attention. The FBI is in our pockets.
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KamenRiderBlade
09/08/18 8:46:41 AM
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frozenshock posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
We're calling the FBI on you, you seem like a sexual predator.


Muahahahahaha sorry you haven't been paying attention. The FBI is in our pockets.
Or so you think!
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Kineth
09/08/18 8:47:15 AM
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known2FAIL posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Coolppl Owns posted...
Yes and I hope he wins

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TheRealDill2000
09/08/18 8:51:11 AM
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I'm torn on this. On one hand, I support the cause that Kaep is backing. The problem is that he took a misguided approach with the protest. His actions were disrespectful to our flag and military. As a result, he has drawn too much negative attention to himself and ruined his chances of getting signed by another team.
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Sephiroth1288
09/08/18 8:54:28 AM
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Since when was it a legal requirement for the NFL to employ people
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ZMythos
09/08/18 8:58:36 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
His actions were disrespectful to our flag and military.

No they fucking weren't
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DirkDiggles
09/08/18 9:01:49 AM
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TheRealDill2000
09/08/18 9:07:44 AM
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ZMythos posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
His actions were disrespectful to our flag and military.

No they fucking weren't

When I watch Fox News, I see veterans mentioning that all the time.
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Irony
09/08/18 9:09:53 AM
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DirkDiggles posted...
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BlackWoman462-X
09/08/18 9:14:59 AM
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He would have if he didn't sign with Nike.
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Kineth
09/08/18 9:16:31 AM
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BlackWoman462-X posted...
He would have if he didn't sign with Nike.


Nike has nothing to do with the NFL.
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BignutzisBack
09/08/18 9:20:15 AM
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He went from being a starting QB to out of the league, you can't tell me he wouldn't be a quality backup on most teams.
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rodu_jr
09/08/18 9:22:10 AM
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He doesn't want backup money
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KiwiTerraRizing
09/08/18 9:23:03 AM
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Yes, because the clearly did.
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BignutzisBack
09/08/18 9:23:15 AM
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rodu_jr posted...
He doesn't want backup money


When/where did he say or imply that?
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rodu_jr
09/08/18 9:24:36 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
rodu_jr posted...
He doesn't want backup money


When/where did he say or imply that?

He turned down Elway's offer the other year
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MonkeyBones23
09/08/18 9:27:12 AM
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No, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that they colluded. He put himself in a poor situation to get hired. No team wants a backup quarterback that draws so much negative attention that it becomes the only story the team hears about. It's not good for the fan base or the locker room.
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SageHarpuia
09/08/18 9:29:59 AM
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He pissed off fans so they fired him, that's just facing the consequences of your actions.
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SweetieBelle462
09/08/18 9:30:56 AM
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Kineth posted...
BlackWoman462-X posted...
He would have if he didn't sign with Nike.


Nike has nothing to do with the NFL.


Hey Kineth how have you been?
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ZMythos
09/08/18 9:46:52 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
When I watch Fox News, I see veterans mentioning that all the time.

That's because you watch Fox News.

They have a narrative.

The flag represents the freedom to protest. It's disrespectful to say he CAN'T kneel for the anthem.

Not to mention that he switched from sitting to kneeling for the anthem because a veteran told him its more respectful to kneel since it means respect for the injured and/or suffering.
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SageHarpuia
09/08/18 9:52:43 AM
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I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color."

Very respectful indeed.
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gatorsPENSbucs
09/08/18 9:55:59 AM
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No he doesn't and it's cute seeing people here pretend to know about sports stuff.
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Coffeebeanz
09/08/18 10:03:19 AM
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I think he'd be an OK backup QB, but honestly we seem to be entering an era where you don't necessarily need a rockstar QB to be a good team, so he'd probably be OK as a starter as well.

But acting like he's an MVP-quality QB is just silly.
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Megaman50100
09/08/18 10:29:37 AM
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A video analysis concerning Colin K.'s stats:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0cUTXwr-k" data-time="

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White Eagle
09/08/18 10:30:42 AM
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You get to draft first and (hopefully) get to add an important piece to your team for the next decade if you lose. You're not "supposed" to do that, but if you're not an elite team now then the incentive is there to help build the future. The Bills drafted the guy they want for years to come (whether or not he fails like other Bill QBs remains to be seen), so why sign Kaepernick?

So they can scrounge a couple more wins--hurting their draft position? So, if they decide to give their new QB playing time this year, they can be accused of bowing to pressure to bench Kaepernick?

Maybe there is proof of collusion out there, but it has to be proof--not an inference based on who gets to play on teams like the Bills.
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DoubleA22
09/08/18 10:32:35 AM
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No hes a terrible qb with a nightmare pr cloud that follows him
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Alpha218
09/08/18 10:33:23 AM
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If there was no validity to the case it wouldve been thrown out. Simple as that.

tennisdude818 posted...
frozenshock posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
I guess leftist is a protected class now?


Yes.

Unlike you guys, leftists actually fight for their rights.

Too bad if you didn't fight to be a protected class too.


They run to the government to force other people to do what they want. They fight to violate other peoples rights.

You do realize that Republicans control both branches of Congress, the presidency, and the Supreme Court right
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DoubleA22
09/08/18 10:36:54 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
He went from being a starting QB to out of the league, you can't tell me he wouldn't be a quality backup on most teams.


You don't bring in a distraction who is a backup...and hes a gimmick qb. Cant be placed into any offense and succeed. He needs a specific offense and playbook to be average at best.

Dont know why Kaepernick supporters ignore all the negative football play he brings. But I guess they gotta push that race war
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