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LeonhartFour posted...

You know, with all this talk about how Orla can't speak but Athena insists she can hear the "voice" of her heart, I was convinced we were eventually going to have a Mood Matrix with Orla. I'm still kinda disappointed that never happened. Seems like a missed opportunity to me!

Yeah, this was the most shocking thing about 5-6 to me - I thought FOR CERTAIN that they were setting up to do a mood matrix on Orla. I have no idea how it didn't happen.

$1,687.13

But that's over more than 10 years, so it's not really that much

First cross examination of the game:

AA1: Frank Sahwit
AA2: Dick Gumshoe
AA3: Phoenix Wright
AA4: Phoenix Wright
AA5: Ted Tonate
AA6: Ahlbi Ur'gaid

weird list

++ for correct spelling of matrix's plural

Yeah, 5-4 is Fulbright then Starbuck, 5-1 is Tonate, Woods mood matrix, then back to Tonate.

Nope. You never cross-examine Juniper at all, only a mood matrix.

LeonhartFour posted...

I'm trying to remember if Fulbright testifies on 5-4 day 1 but I don't think he does

He's the first one you cross-examine.

Ted Tonate is the first one you cross-examine in 5-1, too.

It's amazing how merely putting Rimes on the stand on day 1 is such an awesome misdirect, because 5-6 is specifically designed to fuck with AA conventions

such a GOAT case

After like six hours magus and yaga are nearly tied, they got Lenna back in w3 like 10 seconds apart

Dude brainbomb is a fucking meme on MU we all make fun of that dude all the time

He was terrible in his champs game

TheRock1525 posted...

weapon degradation without the ability to build your own weapons is stupid and anyone defending it is equally dumb

feel free to enjoy botw, but don't argue it's a good feature or it's to its benefit. it's not.

oh excuse me mr game design expert

Gotta root for my fellow z1r runner dragondarch

Xiahou Shake posted...

BotW is great. Not the best game ever but it's my #2 Zelda behind MM.

I had the same weapon durability complaints as many in this topic during my first couple dozen hours with the game, but I let go of the mindset of weapons having any real major value and hoooooly hell it made the game so much better.

You should maybe keep one or two weapons slot dedicated to big time weapons to use on huge threats, but everything else is 100% meant to be burned through as you fight. Grabbing stuff and breaking it over your enemy's head only to grab the next thing in the heat of the moment is super fun. Combat in general destroys every other Zelda to the point it's not even fair.

Thank you, I'm really glad others are backing me up on this

the best back to back cases are 6-4 and 6-5

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...oh, you thought I was kidding? no, that's really my answer

also lol "60+" last year's anniversary game had 172 players

it was more coherent than you would expect it to be

Dels posted...

ScareChan posted...

Dels posted...

Hey guys, the mafia championship sometimes runs out of subs because some communities don't bother listing a sub, so sometimes they'll allow two players from one community if needed. The final qualifying game starts next monday, it's 12 hour days 12 hour nights so it'd only last a week. If anyone wants to be added to the sub list, let me know. (No guarantees at all you'd be asked, it's just in case)

This sounds up my alley. I have been wanting to test my mettle elsewhere

You should sign up for Mafia Universe Anniversary

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/17223

I know it seems silly but they host these huge 60+ player games and it's actually really fun once you wrap your head around it.

also, last year's MU anniversary game was my very first ever game on MU so it's not unusual to do this

I couldn't have been more unhyped with BotW and I was blown away by how perfect it is

And like, if stuff didn't break, you would just get in the pattern of using the same one or two weapons all the time and it'd get boring. There'd be no reason to out looking for new stuff too. It would be totally stagnant. Weapon breaking is one of the best things in the game because it keeps your weapon loadout fresh.

I feel like I'm the only one who loves the weapon breaking system. The thing is, you just have to embrace chaos. Don't worry about saving your weapons.They aren't meant to be saved. Use them, and enjoy them while they last, and there will be other good weapons coming your way shortly. When one thing breaks, just pick up the next thing and keep going. I feel like breaking through the usual mentality of materialism in video games is very important to BotW not driving you nuts. Once you really embrace just living off of whatever weapons you happen to have any given time, it feels great. You just really have to accept it.

Other than that, for me, I love BotW's world because it actually feels large and open. I feel like I can run and climb wherever I want and I can kind of make my own paths and create my own challenges by whatever route I decided I wanted to take to get to a place. Challenges always have a way of feeling emergent, which is cool. I dunno, I just love chilling out and kind of getting lost in the world.

LeonhartFour posted...

You know, it's kind of astounding comparing the two DLC cases with each other. 6-6 feels so barebones, but 5-6 really feels like they put a lot of extra work into it. It has a voiced intro and closing monologue from Phoenix. It has several FMVs. Plus, the backgrounds are gorgeous. The Aqua Tunnel might be my favorite background in the series just in terms of aesthetics.

6-6 remains my biggest disappointment in the whole series probably, after how good 5-6 was, and then how good the entirety of AA6 is

If 6-6 were as good as 5-6 then AA6 would be my favorite AA game by a mile, but I can't quite put it there because of that.

The Zelda style is kind of pre-OoT so that counts as far as I'm concerned

revenge of the sith is fucking awful

except for the parts with palpatine because he's fucking great

We went over shitloads of valid criticisms on TLJ back when that was a thing to talk about

Nanis23 posted...

Paratroopa1 posted...

wow there's a surprising amount of victim blaming going on in this topic

I mean I guess it shouldn't be surprising but whatever

pretty much none of what the man in this article did is acceptable and it is not her fault for getting caught up in it

It's just me Ulti and Vlado
It doesn't count

Yet

yeah... it's not just you

KujikawaRising posted...

This is turning out as interesting as I expected. Americans don't give a shit when compared to other countries, especially those that qualified.

That said, I should have grouped Canada with the US tbh

I mean, it's just not a very popular sport here, it doesn't really have that much to do with whether or not we qualified

wow there's a surprising amount of victim blaming going on in this topic

I mean I guess it shouldn't be surprising but whatever

pretty much none of what the man in this article did is acceptable and it is not her fault for getting caught up in it

Paratroopa1 posted...

I don't really understand what differentiates Falco, Pichu, Lucas, Wolf, and Toon Link/Young Link enough to make them NOT echo fighters

unless some of them are receiving some major upgrades

oh and Dr. Mario

I know he has one different special but come on

also I'm pretty certain the sole reason they're putting Daisy in the game is to move a lot of unsold amiibo stock

I don't really understand what differentiates Falco, Pichu, Lucas, Wolf, and Toon Link/Young Link enough to make them NOT echo fighters

unless some of them are receiving some major upgrades

Proto Man, even though he's in Mega Man's final smash

Shaduln posted...

I wouldn't even consider myself upper middle class. I would consider myself solidly middle class.

Seattle is expensive yo.

And you're not even talking about actual Seattle here, actual Seattle is far worse

I think the lower bound of "upper class" begins at having a second home. If you can't afford a summer house you're just well-to-do middle class. If you can afford a summer home you might be rich.

Damian Tenma is like, my most underrated character in the series

He's one of my favorites but nobody ever talks about him!

I like how quickly he goes from scary and intimidating to obviously a super good dude and him going in-character to throw a wrench into the trial is just fucking awesome

He's so fucking cool

mike and jay are fraud hacks

rich evans is the best

LeonhartFour posted...

The end of the first day of 2-2 (which has a similar premise to 5-2) has Phoenix proposing that Maya left the room to explain how the Channeling Chamber Key was discovered outside of it. That's the only one that comes to mind.

Why do both of these examples involve keys to a large door and a locked room mystery

LeonhartFour posted...

Apollo barely escapes with a scenario that turns out to be 100% wrong, which is great.

This is one of the most interesting things about this case to me. Is there another case in the series where the defense proposes a really good-sounding theory that gains traction but turns out to have absolutely no truth to it whatsoever? Like, I think there are times where the defense gives a theory that is incomplete or has wrong information but at least advances some notion of truth - this one is 100% wrong but gets him out of the day and I think it's the only time that happens

NeoElfboy posted...

Why would you think it isn't intentional? It's not like the writers didn't know the twist. There's a few other little hints that are funny in hindsight, like Jinxie calling him a ghost.

I would say it wasn't written in quite the way that would make me 100% sure that they intended it. It's a common enough turn of phrase that it could have been coincidental and I can't think of a lot of other instances in the series of this kind of 'funny in hindsight' wordplay - it's not zero escape which is chock full of it for instance

Oh Jurassic World was great when people were being super violently dinosaur-murdered

Mike thought Jurassic World was great so sometimes I worry he has some kind of brain worm

(Crossing my fingers that I did not just start a fight about Jurassic World but I did not think it was a good movie)

LeonhartFour posted...

"My investigations are as thorough as they are foolproof, or my name isn't Fulbright!"

turns out he was right

man, sometimes I wonder if stuff like this was intentional

and if it was it just makes me sadder that they didn't stick the landing on the fulbright reveal

they were so close! so close

5-2's twist is one of the very most underrated in the series imo, it's perfectly played

The misdirect of the white hair in the mask is just so good

Klavier does get underutilized in 4-4 though. And arguably a bit at the end of 4-3, but he has good stuff earlier than that - I like that the first time in the ENTIRE GAME that Klavier shows any sign of surprise is when Lamiroir accuses Daryan. It's a good moment.

I actually sort of gained a newfound appreciation for Klavier on my AA4 replay. He's not so bad, the fact that he's a relatively normal guy instead of a brooding mysterious person with a dark past like... basically literally every other prosecutor, kind of makes him different, and I'm okay with that.

Yeah, counting Asinine Attorney seems pretty pointless, nobody really regards them as real cases.

The only thing that's interesting about Asinine Attorney is that it could technically mean that Klavier appears in AA6, which is very weird

I think it's funny how at this point, we can very easily say Phoenix > Edgeworth > Apollo > Judge > Athena/Maya > Gumshoe > Kay > Trucy/Ema/Franziska > Mia/Blackquill > Klavier/Lang/Pearl/Larry/Nahyuta > other people

and a lot of the movement at the top is pretty much done, or not going to change too much

...except Phoenix is not even close to being done, since he still has the most lines of any character remaining by far. I don't think he's going to crack 30000 lines, but can he crack 25000? He's got 5-1, 5-4, 5-5, 5-6, 6-1, 6-3, 6-6, with a major role in 6-5, and a few other lines peppered in here and there. I think it will be close.

Athena does contribute more in mood matrix segments than most court assistants though

LeonhartFour posted...

Paratroopa1 posted...

Athena vs Maya will be interesting

My gut tells me Maya wins but I'm not confident

Athena will pass Gumshoe though I am pretty sure

I think I'd bet on Athena beating out Maya. She has a sizable role in every DD case, including one where she's the lead. Plus, she's got a big role in 6-2, 6-4, and 6-5.

I'm really curious to see what the DD line counts look like without free investigations though. That might actually hurt the attorney/assistant quite a bit, at least in terms of overall line percentages.

It's hard for me to remember exactly how many lines she has in 5-5 and 6-5 because I don't have a good bead on how many lines court assistants get. She's only the playable character in 5-3, 6-4, and a very short bit in 5-1, then she's assistant in 5-2, 5-4, 5-6, 6-2, and some parts of 6-5, and then defendant/court assistant in 5-5 and minor role in 6-6. I'm not really sure if that's enough - but on the other hand, AA5 and AA6 are both really really long.

The thing is, Maya is going to pad her total pretty nicely with 6-3 and 6-6, too. I think she winds up surpassing 5000 just barely, so that's what Athena needs to hit. Apollo didn't get that far in AA4 and he had a little more time as main char... but he didn't have those assistant parts. Yeah, I guess Athena actually probably does beat Maya.

I am close to 100% certain that Blackquill catches Mia. Klavier has just over 1000 lines in AA4 and Blackquill should beat that easily. He might not have as many lines in any case as Klavier has in 4-3 but he has a big role in pretty much all of AA5, which is way longer than AA4, and then he gets to top it off with 6-4. He should be over 1500.

Apollo's definitely going to place third. 6-5 is a monster, but even that will only give him around 2000 lines? It's not enough. He's only the playable attorney in 3 more cases (plus one very short trial segment), an assistant in one, a witness in one, and then a minor role in two others. He's really hurt by the fact that he doesn't show up in four of AA6's six cases at all. (Which is funny, because he shows up in all six of AA5's)

Athena vs Maya will be interesting

My gut tells me Maya wins but I'm not confident

Athena will pass Gumshoe though I am pretty sure

Lang vs Klavier is low key an interesting battle btw, I think Klavier has enough lines in 5-3 to surpass him but I'm not 100% certain of that

Pearl will definitely surpass both of them since she has 5-5, 5-6, and 6-5 to do it

Larry will also surpass both of them just with 6-6

Neither of them will surpass Mia