Board 8 > Ace Attorney Topic Part 6: The Perceiving (Spoilers for AA1-6, AAI1-2)

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Filch is another one of those characters who doesn't seem like he should be as likeable as he is.
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I love Blackquill's nicknames and insults for people, such as calling L'Belle a deceptive dandy. I also enjoy the double Lord of the Rings reference in calling Filch both a "fool of a tanuki" and a "tricksy little tanuki."
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man DD's epic court themes are so good

top tier Announce the Truth, Pursuit, and Allegro themes for the series, to say nothing of the individual lawyer themes and Blackquill's theme
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one of my favorite aspects to the twist of Damian being the Amazing Nine-Tails is the fact that Jinxie was so dedicated to kayfabe that she wouldn't reveal that the person she saw was wearing his mask

it's such an incredible reason for Jinxie to withhold information and I love it
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Blackquill: Hmph. This is no more than guesswork and speculation. Now, stop your jabbering and--
Apollo: Objection! No, you twisted samurai! This time, you stop your jabbering and let me finish making my case!

+1000000 respect points for Apollo

it seriously feels so good to see him regain his confidence after Blackquill has slapped him around for most of the case

it's why Apollo/Blackquill is such a great rivalry
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5-2 complete

numbers forthcoming
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Total lines by character:

1. Phoenix Wright - 16418
2. Miles Edgeworth - 14764
3. Apollo Justice - 5690
4. The Judge - 5328
5. Maya Fey - 4441
6. Dick Gumshoe - 4089
7. Kay Faraday - 3370
8. Franziska von Karma - 2314
9. Trucy Wright - 2124
10. Ema Skye - 1897
11. Mia Fey - 1418
12. Shi-Long Lang - 1101
13. Klavier Gavin - 1061
14. Pearl Fey - 1035
15. Justine Courtney - 1016
16. Larry Butz - 1008
17. Raymond Shields - 971
18. Godot - 902
19. Gregory Edgeworth - 649
20. Lotta Hart - 648
21. Athena Cykes - 618
22. Tyrell Badd - 593
23. Dahlia Hawthorne - 578
24. Wendy Oldbag - 553
25. Sebastian Debeste - 521
26. Calisto Yew/Shih-na - 489
27. Adrian Andrews - 459
28. Winston Payne - 453
29. Manfred von Karma - 444
30. The Judge's Brother - 421
31. Shelly de Killer - 387
32. Lamiroir/Thalassa Gramarye - 382
33. Will Powers - 380
34. Simon Keyes - 380
35. Bikini - 351
36. Maggey Byrde - 323
37. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320
38. Kristoph Gavin - 319
39. Quercus Alba - 303
40. Valant Gramarye - 298
41. Luke Atmey - 292
42. Damon Gant - 285
43. Ini Miney - 275
44. Angel Starr - 272
45. Ron DeLite - 271
46. Rhoda Teneiro - 268
47. Katherine Hall - 267
48. Blaise Debeste - 265
49. Regina Berry - 261
50. Jake Marshall - 257
51. Simon Blackquill - 251
52. Jean Armstrong - 251
53. Nicole Swift - 250
54. Lana Skye - 249
55. Victor Kudo - 247
56. Mike Meekins - 235
57. Marvin Grossberg - 234
58. Jacques Portsman - 231
59. Spark Brushel - 230
60. Frank Sahwit - 219
61. Alita Tiala - 219
62. Patricia Roland - 217
63. Daryan Crescend - 216
64. Dane Gustavia - 209
65. Horace Knightley - 209
66. Florent L'Belle - 208
67. Maximillion Galactica - 203
68. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200
69. Penny Nichols - 194
70. Phineas Filch - 190
71. Jinxie Tenma - 189
72. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
73. Iris - 181
74. Damian Tenma - 176
75. Furio Tigre - 176
76. Zak Gramarye - 174
77. Matt Engarde - 171
78. Sirhan Dogen - 170
79. Cammy Meele - 168
80. Morgan Fey - 165
81. Redd White - 162
82. Bobby Fulbright - 154
83. John Marsh - 153
84. Delicia Scones - 151
85. Colias Palaeno - 150
86. Dee Vasquez - 148
87. Zinc Lablanc - 146
88. Desiree DeLite - 142
89. Trilo Quist - 140
90. Wesley Stickler - 138
91. Cody Hackins - 135
92. Olga Orly - 131
93. Lauren Paups - 130
94. Karin Jenson - 129
95. Guy Eldoon - 118
96. Wocky Kitaki - 112
97. Di-Jun Huang - 110
98. Richard Wellington - 107
99. April May - 104
100. Vera Misham - 104
101. Jay Elbird - 102
102. Yanni Yogi - 98
103. Lance Amano - 92
104. Jeff Master - 90
105. Viola Cadaverini - 80
106. Director Hotti/Doctor Hickfield - 76
107. Plum Kitaki - 76
108. Terry Fawles - 74
109. Drew Misham - 74
110. The Bellboy - 72
111. Ernest Amano - 68
112. Benjamin Woodman - 60
113. Sal Manella - 59
114. Chief of Detectives - 55
115. Bonnie Young - 53
116. Lisa Basil - 46
117. Machi Tobaye - 41
118. Turner Grey - 39
119. Elise Deauxnim - 30
120. Missile - 20
121. Polly - 20
122. Winfred "Big Wins" Kitaki - 20
123. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 19
124. Widget - 13
125. Romein LeTouse - 13
126. Taka - 3

Overall total lines - 92312

Total lines by segment:

5-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1149
5-2 Trial Day 1 - 904
5-2 Trial Day 2 - 875
5-2 Investigation Day 2 - 822
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Total lines by case:

2-4 - 5946
1-5 - 5913
3-5 - 5815
E1-5 - 4831
E2-5 - 4777
4-3 - 4494
3-2 - 4151
3-3 - 4063
E2-3 - 3959
4-4 - 3952
E2-2 - 3936
2-3 - 3884
5-2 - 3750
4-2 - 3468
1-4 - 3466
2-2 - 3119
E1-4 - 2935
E2-4 - 2868
1-3 - 2741
E1-3 - 2412
E1-2 - 1995
E2-1 - 1923
1-2 - 1773
4-1 - 1421
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
E1-1 - 1039
2-1 - 899
4-0 - 679
1-1 - 389

Total lines by character per case:

The Monstrous Turnabout (5-2)

1. Apollo Justice - 1529 (40.77%)
2. Athena Cykes - 618 (16.48%)
3. Simon Blackquill - 251 (6.69%)
4. The Judge - 247 (6.59%)
5. Florent L'Belle - 208 (5.55%)
6. Phineas Filch - 190 (5.07%)
7. Jinxie Tenma - 189 (5.04%)
8. Damian Tenma - 176 (4.69%)
9. Bobby Fulbright - 154 (4.11%)
10. Trucy Wright - 94
11. Phoenix Wright - 55
12. Other - 23
13. Widget - 13
14. Taka - 3
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Blackquill is awesome.
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5-2 has one of my favourite takedowns, the white hair in the mask is just so perfect. The smarm/satisaction as Apollo delivers "A DNA test is all we need to prove it, and we both know we'll get a match!" is great.

Interesting to see that 5-2 doesn't rack up a high line count despite its great length time-wise; I imagine this will hold true for the rest of DD/SoJ (well 6-5 will still be huge) but we'll see.
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I think this will be the case mostly for DD because the lack of free investigations takes away a lot of line opportunities. 6-3 might end up being the longest non-epic case in terms of line count.

speaking of which the fact that 4-3 currently holds that distinction says a lot
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Apollo: With that badge on, you suddenly look so...capable!
Phoenix: Ha ha ha. Um, thanks? (It's not like I was some lazy bum, you know!)

I mean
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4-3 is the longest non-epic case so far by line count?! it wasn't near the top in terms of play-time!
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well most of the cases above it in terms of playtime are ones I haven't gotten to yet or are actually epic cases
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You know, it's kind of astounding comparing the two DLC cases with each other. 6-6 feels so barebones, but 5-6 really feels like they put a lot of extra work into it. It has a voiced intro and closing monologue from Phoenix. It has several FMVs. Plus, the backgrounds are gorgeous. The Aqua Tunnel might be my favorite background in the series just in terms of aesthetics.
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LeonhartFour posted...

well most of the cases above it in terms of playtime are ones I haven't gotten to yet or are actually epic cases

5-2 and e2-3 are, right?
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Yeah, but the AAI games in general tend to have lower line counts because Edgeworth is a line hog and the format is different. Plus, 5-2 doesn't have free investigations, so that hurts its potential ceiling.
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Sasha you're killin' me with these bad puns girl
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although I love that the reason she asked Phoenix for help is because of cross-examining Polly in 1-4

reminds me of the first image in my sig
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(Is anger the only feeling I inspire in women?)

I feel ya Phoenix

I feel ya
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LeonhartFour posted...

You know, it's kind of astounding comparing the two DLC cases with each other. 6-6 feels so barebones, but 5-6 really feels like they put a lot of extra work into it. It has a voiced intro and closing monologue from Phoenix. It has several FMVs. Plus, the backgrounds are gorgeous. The Aqua Tunnel might be my favorite background in the series just in terms of aesthetics.

6-6 remains my biggest disappointment in the whole series probably, after how good 5-6 was, and then how good the entirety of AA6 is

If 6-6 were as good as 5-6 then AA6 would be my favorite AA game by a mile, but I can't quite put it there because of that.

I've made my peace with what 6-6 is and I just enjoy it for the Phoenix/Maya reunion.
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Oh man I forgot 5-2 and 5-DLC were back-to-back, nice. Probably my second favourite back-to-back pair after 2-3/2-4. (Phoenix doesn't actually appear behind the bench in 5-3 so it's easy to forget the relative order of it and 5-DLC.)
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Best back-to-back cases in terms of chronology is 1-3 and 1-4

Best back-to-back cases in case order is 3-4 and 3-5
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definitely 1-3 and 1-4

the best run of cases is 2-4 through 4-2 (or within one game, 3-1 through 3-5)

then there's E2-1 through E2-5, though its lows are lower than AA3's lows

case-wise there's 5-5 and 5-6, if you choose that order

... and of course, 6-5 part 1 and 6-5 part 2!
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the best back to back cases are 6-4 and 6-5

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...oh, you thought I was kidding? no, that's really my answer

SeabassDebeste posted...

the best run of cases is 2-4 through 4-2

one case too many

4-2 is still a bottom tier AA case that SD insists on defending as good despite the fact that he's too deathly afraid of AJ's badness to replay it

SeabassDebeste posted...

then there's E2-1 through E2-5, though its lows are lower than AA3's lows

nope E2-2 ruins it (E2-5 Beginning too)
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I like how Athena just accepts Phoenix's and Apollo's powers without really questioning how or why they work. She just takes their word for it. Apollo even comments on how easily she believed him, and she tells him that everyone's got a talent or ability of their own. Since she has one, she isn't surprised that someone else does, too.

Also 5-6 takes place almost exactly ten years after 2-2 so I guess that's how long the Magatama's power can last before it needs to be recharged.
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When I was doing my ranking of cases in my topic, and giving justifications for some of them, I forgot I was going to expand on my ranking of 4-2.

4-2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0P72P4qSPM" data-time="
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Paratroopa1 posted...

the best back to back cases are 6-4 and 6-5

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...oh, you thought I was kidding? no, that's really my answer

Perfectly fair answer! I honestly considered that one too, along with 1-3/1-4. Speaking chronologically of course, I thought that was clear by the fact that 5-2/5-DLC is what brought this up.

Leon, random question: what platform did you play the various games on for this playthrough set?
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3DS for everything except AAI2
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I like that the FMV that introduces Pearl shows the pink paint on the bottom of the penguin's feet

huzzah consistency and foreshadowing
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also it's kind of baffling to think that Athena's only a year older than Pearl, who's a year older than Trucy

Pearl is as old in DD as Maya was in PW1

Pearl is a friggin' adult now and Trucy will be in the next game
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Pearl: Wow, Mr. Nick, it looks like you've become a real adult since the last time I saw you!
Phoenix: (I've always been an adult the entire time I've known you, Pearls!)

Pearl so good
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5-6 Investigation Day 1 complete

it's kinda weird but I feel like Fulbright acts the most like a real, competent detective in 5-6

but if you saved this case for last you already know he's a fake
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You know, I've wondered if DePlume's book, "The Great Grief of the Great Thief," is supposed to be about Kay or is just an oblique reference. I wonder what the title of the book was in Japanese.
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I like the fact that Phoenix understands the obscure metaphors Blackquill tries to tell with prison inmates. It's kind of a subtle sign of his maturity compared to how he never understood any of Godot's coffee metaphors (as well as the fact that they always go over Apollo's and Athena's heads).
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The Judge immediately notices the bruise on Shipley's wrist.

Judge stepping up his game too
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I kinda wish the number of pirate coins had been 882
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"I wonder why did she was doing the same things she did a year ago?"

DD's localization is rough sometimes man
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I'm trying to think of how many cases have the true culprit take the stand as a witness on day 1.

Gant does in 1-5, Atmey does in 3-2 (which structurally is very similar to 5-6), Daryan shows up on the stand in 4-3 but doesn't give a testimony, and Marlon does here in 5-6. I think that's it.

Well, I guess technically it happens in 6-5, too, but they're two separate single-day trials in two different countries, so it's a unique circumstance, even compared to 3-2 or 5-6.
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It's amazing how merely putting Rimes on the stand on day 1 is such an awesome misdirect, because 5-6 is specifically designed to fuck with AA conventions

such a GOAT case

Rimes is still kinda suspicious from the get-go though because he's the only one who's openly against Orla.
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Does Tonate take the stand Day 1 in 5-1? Seems like an easy one to miss since nobody remembers 5-1 as a 2 day case.
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oh right 5-1 is technically a two day case isn't it

I don't even really count that one

I'm trying to remember if Fulbright testifies on 5-4 day 1 but I don't think he does
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LeonhartFour posted...

I'm trying to remember if Fulbright testifies on 5-4 day 1 but I don't think he does

He's the first one you cross-examine.

Ted Tonate is the first one you cross-examine in 5-1, too.

I thought you cross-examined Starbuck and Juniper first in those cases, but I guess I'm misremembering.
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Nope. You never cross-examine Juniper at all, only a mood matrix.

Well, I'm counting Mood Matrices (I guess that's the plural) as testimonies for the purposes of this project, but I knew Juniper had one at the beginning of 5-1.
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++ for correct spelling of matrix's plural

Yeah, 5-4 is Fulbright then Starbuck, 5-1 is Tonate, Woods mood matrix, then back to Tonate.