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Revelation34 posted...

I might just get a reader instead of buying physical. But I would want it to have internet access so I could read stuff on other sites too.

I know a friend of mine just used to use his iPad and would use some site or another to download books. So it should be possible to do even without a Kindle/Nook/etc.

It likely only matters how/where you want to go to get access to books.



Gaawa_chan posted...

Ah, I own that series in a single large book, but I never got through it. Maybe I should pick it back up again.

Yeah, most people who read it these days buy The Great Book of Amber from Barnes & Noble (which is basically all 10 books in one). It's pretty much the only Zelazny book they still stock/in print.

...which is a shame, because Zelazny is a great writer. He was a huge influence on the New Wave scene in sci-fi/fantasy, and he wrote a ton of short stories as well as novels.
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lihlih posted...

but does it anyways because she thinks it makes her look cool.

To be fair, if she's associating with people who think the brand is cool, and the fact that she's using it does in fact make them think that she's cool, then it's successfully working exactly as she intends it to.

She's not paying for the headphones, she's paying for other people's reaction to them. Or even her own reaction to them, if simply having them boosts her sense of self-confidence, self-esteem, and self-image.

People have paid far more for less.



lihlih posted...

I mean, buying fashion clothing is one thing.

How is it any different? You're buying clothes that will almost certainly not last as long and which usually aren't as comfortable as much cheaper brands. You're paying almost exclusively for the brand name, and the sense of ego you get when you or other people are aware of the brand you're wearing.

You're not paying for the product, you're paying for the name, and everything that comes with it.

Often, what you're ultimately paying for is the sense of superiority or satisfaction that comes from owning something others don't.



Lokarin posted...

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

"Vimes tried remember. It wasnt easy. He was vaguely aware that he drank to forget. What made it rather pointless was that he couldnt remember what it was he was forgetting any more. In the end he just drank to forget about drinking."

"If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasnt as cynical as real life."
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Ferarri619 posted...

It was a great action movie but lacking the "whole end of civilization" aspect of the old movie

That wasn't even really the whole point of the old movie. There's a fair bit of subtext there that most people completely miss because they hyper-focus on the ending alone.



Mead posted...

That entire trilogy is really good

like better than it has any right to be

It was. For a series of movies based on a franchise that had petered out decades earlier, starting with a film that feels like a remake/reboot prequel, it kind of feels like the whole thing should be incredibly cheesy, lame, and pointless. But it actually works pretty well.

Andy Serkis might be like 70% of the reason the movies work, though. He's like a crazy mo-cap genius.
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Comic Sans was always a great font. It just got overused like crazy, until it became a meme.

As with most fonts, it depends on what you're using it for. You shouldn't be writing school papers or business reports in it, but for more whimsical stuff it's perfectly fine.

Though personally, if you give me control over what font I'm using, I reflexively default to Times New Roman pretty much 100% of the time, unless I'm working on something where I'm trying to be artsy.
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Lokarin posted...

Tragedy is the other side of the mask of comedy...

Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall down an open manhole and die.
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I'd say the show should end, but that's mostly because I've been saying that for like 20 years now. Mainly because I have zero nostalgia or affection for it (it didn't come on until I was already in my 20s). It mostly exists outside of my awareness 98% of the time.

Though it mostly existing entirely outside of my awareness of it (except whenever my niece and nephew used to visit, because they were kids in the 00s/10s and would watch it constantly) is also why I don't really care whether or not it ends. If it runs for another 100 years it wouldn't overly affect my life all that much.



Mead posted...

If kids are watching it and enjoying it then why should they end it?

one of my nieces loves the show and she is only 5

To be fair, your niece also has 20+ years worth of repeats she can watch.

She could watch for nearly 100 hours straight and never see a single episode twice.

So it's not like she would necessarily even know if they stopped making new episodes tomorrow.

(and honestly, kids watch TV shows over and over and over anyway - for most kids, repeats actually make a show better, not worse)

The usual argument for why it should end though is because it's been running so long everyone involved is kind of burned out, they've long since run out of worthwhile jokes or stories, everything's become kind of formulaic, and none of the new episodes they're cranking out are anywhere near as good as the original ones. So a lot of people feel like it would be better just to mercy kill the entire thing before the declining quality just turns the whole mess into something people resent or remember poorly as opposed to something you think of fondly.

People cite The Simpsons as the archetypal "It should have been cancelled years ago" show (with Family Guy getting a fair amount of the same criticism these days), but when it comes to Spongebob Ren & Stimpy might be a better comparison. That show had a brilliant start, but started going downhill after only 6 episodes, bottomed out somewhere in the middle of the second season - and then got appreciably worse once they kicked John Kricfalusi (who created the whole thing and voiced Ren) off the show. By the end it became such a mess that I rarely think of Ren & Stimpy being a "great" show these days, and talk of a new revival of it doesn't excite me as much as it fills me with a dull sense of dread over how utterly terrible it will inevitably be.

Spongebob's already passed a few of those hurdles itself (with its original creator leaving, then coming back, then dying). If even fans of the show who grew up with it in the 00s/10s are saying the show has long since passed the point where it's worth watching, maybe it would be better off stopping.

Not that Nickelodeon will ever allow it to stop. As this point I assume that even if Tom Kenny, Bill Fagerbakke, or Clancy Brown retire or die they'll just recast their voices and keep going. Or find some way to use a computer to just generate new dialogue from old sound clips in some sort of dystopian future nightmare. A thousand years from now, the only things left will be sentient cockroaches and Spongebob.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP6frGtC5gw
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He who dies with the most toys wins.







Ehh, not really. While I'm extremely materialistic, most of my material possessions are tied to the experience of using them in some way. I don't own things just to own them. Like how I have a massive library, but I've read every book in it multiple times. Or how I own physical copies of all my games and movies, but I don't strictly value them simply because I own them, but because of the content of them.

So I suppose what I'm saying is that neither possessions nor experiences alone satisfy me, as much as the two things combined.
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I feel driven to solve problems when they occur and feel a sense of satisfaction from solving them, but I also feel like I'd be quite content if someone else solved all my problems for me.
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Sarcasthma posted...

And possibly badong.

You should strive to be gnodab instead.
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Revelation34 posted...

I might have to try reading all of these. I do have more freetime now.

If you're looking for light fantasy I could throw David Eddings into the pile (his two main series are 10 books and 6 books respectively), but a lot of people have gone off him in the last year or two, because of some personal issues that have come out about him and his wife/co-author that have kind of squicked a lot of people. Depends on whether or not you can separate the art from the artist, or if knowing there's some dark shit in his life will ruin your ability to ever look at his work unbiased.

Roger Zelazny's Amber novels (10 books - two series of 5 and 5 - but they're all fairly short) are another option, but they're generally a bit of an acquired taste (basically, you'll generally know by the end of Nine Princes in Amber if you're really excited about continuing or bored enough to want to stop).
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Zeus posted...

No, of course not, because they're separate people. It's a stupid question with an obvious answer.

Is it, though?

For most of human history, we'd treat neighboring tribes like subhumans. A few hundred years ago we didn't hesitate to move in and steal an entire continent or two from the original tenants. If we ever make it to space, and we're honest with ourselves, we probably won't give much of a shit about steamrolling through whatever aliens we find.

So why would parallel universes be any different? We'd always think of our own as "Home" and everything else is just a less important reflection or copy. We probably wouldn't hesitate to mine them for resources or use them to dump waste into. The fact that it's a common trope in fiction implies it's the sort of thing we think about.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExpendableAlternateUniverse

So why wouldn't we view alternate universe people as little more than resources walking around on two legs? If parallel me has a kidney and I need one, it's not like he's a real person or anything. Pssht, his universe is dumb anyway and his life isn't as cool as mine, it's almost like I'm doing him a favor letting his organs live vicariously in me!

The fact that other parallel universes may be thinking the same thing as us isn't all that likely to deter us, either. If anything, it might even encourage us to be even more ruthless and exploitative ("We've got to get them before they get us!").
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Zareth posted...

And you might say to yourself, this is not my beautiful house, this is not my beautiful wife

Same as it ever was.
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Mead posted...

that sounds so exhausting, truly

That's what all the meth is for.
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Having read the article, exactly how does which hand he was using play into things at all?
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PMarth2002 posted...

Murder is wrong...

If you find alternate selves who died early and used those organs, than its fine

But if it's you, wouldn't that be suicide and not murder?
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

or maybe just never steal money.

Or just don't get caught stealing money.
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No, I generally snap directly from being unconscious directly to being a fully aware know-it-all.
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More importantly, if you have sex with your alternate universe self, is it gay or just masturbation?

Also, would it technically count as incest, since your DNA would be even closer than any actual relatives?

Also also, how do you decide who gets to be top and who has to be bottom?
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GanonsSpirit posted...

I only read the main trilogy and didn't bother with the others. The 2nd and 3rd books are pretty damn good.

I read the first seven. I actually liked the Heritage of Shannara quadrilogy better than the original three.

It feels like it goes rapidly downhill after that, though.

Never got into Landover (Terry Brooks' other fantasy series). The first couple books never really grabbed me.
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adjl posted...

Even looking at older themes, they often hold up well when fully orchestrated.

The Black Mages, full stop.



Final Fantasy2389 posted...

From what I could see, all the songs were also from Japanese studios. Japan's just flexing.

To be fair, Japan generally doesn't pay attention to the fact that anyone outside of Japan actually makes video games. So they probably didn't know any Western video game music.
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GanonsSpirit posted...

If you want to read Lord of the Rings, but stop wanting read it when you start, just read The Sword of Shannara instead. It's a wholesale ripoff of Lord of the Rings condensed into one book.

Wheel of Time starts out the same way as well. As do about a thousand other fantasy novels from the 70s and 80s.

People here probably won't like Shannara if they're completionists, though, because there's like three dozen books in the series now.
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They should have stayed the Indians, but started dressing in saris and henna tattoos, and come out to the field dancing to Bollywood musical numbers.
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I'm moderately surprised no one posted this yet:

http://youtu.be/1c1F0PpbHdg?t=20



Muscles posted...

I like my sugar with coffee and cream

Too sweet to be sour, too nice to be mean?
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Mead posted...

it means exactly what you think it means

I think it means the person typing just had a stroke.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

So is boredom

True, but that doesn't alter or contradict my statement in the slightest.
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Muscles posted...

say what you want about the USA they won't send you to a labor camp and kill your family for stating "my government is corrupt and evil"

No, we usually do it based on racism instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_and_reservation_inequality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Italian_Americans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_migrant_detentions
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Metalsonic66 posted...

Literally the most fun and lighthearted part of the book but okay

Being lighthearted doesn't necessarily prevent it from also being boring. And fun is incredibly subjective.
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acesxhigh posted...

you should read about the "White Terror" and events of the Chinese revolutionary war. I don't think history looks back too fondly on the Chinese Nationalist Party either. Their only saving grace was that their western allies were quite fond of fascism too.

Speaking of White... that reminds me of something that most Westerners have completely forgotten about, but Russians never did:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

Western interventionism in general (and American interventionism specifically) was a huge part of the 20th century (and in some cases one of the huge negatives of Wilsonian ideology), and a lot of the "bad guys" see those things in a very different context than Americans do. Usually in the context of hiding our own imperialistic, evil actions behind the thin veneer of bullshit morality.

Russians have basically spent the last hundred years being fully convinced that the US wanted them broken and weak. And the hundred or so years before that they were fighting "The Great Game" with the British. It's not entirely surprising that they question our motives for things nearly as much as we question theirs.
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faramir77 posted...

From my point of view the Jedi are evil

You'd be right.
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Mead posted...

why are they evil? What do we actually know for certain?

not saying you are wrong

It's always worth noting that a lot of the things Russia and China do as part of their political agenda are spurred by a perception that THE WEST is a monolithic force that is opposed to them, and they need to defend themselves against aggression.

And one of the reasons why they always scoff when we try to criticize them on the basis of civil rights is because they're fully aware of how full of shit we are when we do it.

The Chinese declare sovereignty over a particular patch of sea, the US and British immediately fly plans over the disputed territory as if to say "lolno". And then the Chinese look out across that water, and they see South Korea and Japan as strong US allies, along with Taiwan as a constant thorn in their side, ringing them in.

Now imagine how the US would perceive things if the Chinese put military bases in Cuba, Greenland, Canada, and Mexico and started sending Chinese planes flying over US shipping lanes just off our coast. We'd be nuking Beijing by noon tomorrow.

Perspective is a funny thing.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

I think they tried that a bunch of times

There's actually an old Chinese proverb that goes something like "That which is apart must inevitably come together, that which is together will inevitably separate".

Basically, nations break apart and reform of their own accord over time. Attempts to force the issue (like people constantly taking apart Poland) tends to have the effect of making the pieces involved even more determined to pull back together (like Poland, or East/West Germany).

An outside force breaking up China would probably be the surest way to guarantee that everyone in China would fight to reunify.
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helIy posted...

the tom bombadil part in the books is what made me stop reading because it was so fucking disgustingly boring

To be fair, the books really only got super-popular in the 60s, when everyone was high on drugs. And Bombadil is pretty much the living avatar of hippie stoners.

So if you didn't like him, you clearly just didn't smoke enough pipeweed.
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Mead posted...

doesnt the ship like crash or blow up if you dont do them?

Technically, if you were playing in a session and no one did a single task, everything would be fine.

Theoretically, you could spend the entire game just sitting in the cafeteria until everyone got bored. There's no time limits on basic tasks.

It's part of why the imposters can sabotage (to force people to split up). While doing all your tasks leads to an auto-win for the good guys (and the point of it is to help pull the innocents to different parts of the ship to make kills easier for the bad guys), you don't actually have to do a single task if you're clever enough to figure out who the imposters are and just airlock them (or drop them in lava, walk the plank, etc).

But I was being sardonic in my original post.
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Zeus posted...

I feel like people are taking Muscles' trollish shitpost (or shitpostish troll topic?) a lot more seriously than they should.

If we stopped taking shitposts seriously there'd literally be no conversation on PotD at all.
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Zeus posted...

...it was just then that I realized PO was a Dave Meltzer mark. The only question is whether he got indoctrinated by Meltzer into this nonsense, or sought out Meltzer because he was indoctrinated

Thanks for proving my point more eloquently than I ever could.
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Because the Chinese are very open about how violently antagonistic they would be to anyone who actually acknowledges Taiwan as a separate entity, let alone the "real" China.

Taiwan is neither enough of a threat or an asset to warrant the US to care about it vis-a-vis realpolitik, and regardless of how often either side of the political spectrum shouts about freedoms or democracy or civil rights or human interest, realpolitik and economic power are pretty much the only things that actually matter in global politics.
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IronBornCorps posted...

I know the ending was botched, but him and Moxley in that barbed wire match was pretty good up to that point. He really has a lot of depth in terms of styles he can wrestle.

That's not even on him, that's production and the company they outsourced pyro to.

Which isn't to say that Kenny can't botch, or that he's a perfect wunderkind who aces everything he's ever done. But it's not really on the wrestlers if something doesn't explode right unless the wrestlers were literally the ones who set it up.
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Zeus posted...

No, almost all of them are circling back to the same awful primary source. If it was coming from Meltzer -- who is to close to AEW these days he's widely believed to be on the payroll -- that'd be one thing. However, all of this is coming from the same disreputable source.

Except it's not, but you're just refusing to acknowledge that because if you did you'd have to change the opinion you already decided was objectively correct and which is now set in stone.

Just like Cornette!



Zeus posted...

No, it's the other way around. I listen to him BECAUSE he shares my opinions on shitty wrestling.

The fact that you tend to parrot back most of his pet insults whenever you're talking about specific people very strongly suggests that you've been influenced by his thinking a lot more dogmatically than you're willing to admit.

A lot of your confirmation bias is also you judging things based on what he's said. You've even openly admitted this previously. "Jim said this was bad, so I went to check it out." The problem is, that's absolutely going to color your perspective even if you don't realize/accept that.

You know, in exactly the same way you and Cornette are basically accusing Meltzer of using his opinion to brainwash dumb marks into believing Omega is better than he is just by constantly talking him up and repeating the praise all the time.

But of course, they're the marks. YOU'RE the one who has it all figured out. Only you and Saint Jim understand the true objective reality that is professional wrestling. Anyone who disagrees must clearly either be deluded, or in on the scam.
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Final Fantasy2389 posted...

Ugh. They're the worst. Jim Cornette needs to keep his awful opinions to himself.

Jim's actually extremely intelligent, and a lot of his observations about old-time wrestling can be really insightful. If you just listen to him in that context, he's pretty good.

He just has a hate-boner for modern wrestling, which kind of irrationally blinds him to anything and everything other than the fact that it isn't exactly the type of wrestling he grew up with, and is therefore evil. The sad part is, because he couches all of his criticism in over-the-top insults, abuse, and rhetoric, it actually winds up completely obscuring the moments when he does have a legitimate criticism of the modern style or presentation. He's become the boy who cried wolf. Except in this case, he's the boy who cried about blow-up dolls, invisible grenades, and pockets.

Of course, there's plenty of people who are absolutely convinced Cornette doesn't even actually hate AEW, as much as he's lost himself in his role of "HEEL MANAGER" and is fully aware that by shitting on it he can draw attention from its fans and remain "relevant" in modern wrestling. So he's overselling all of his opinions and deliberately trolling AEW fans. The fact that his hate for WWE is somewhat passive ("I find this boring and thus don't really watch") is different from his hate for AEW ("This enrages me and therefore I will watch all of it to find things to make fun of") comes across like a bit of a work.

There are also people who point out that, as much as Cornette doesn't hesitate to shit on Trump and his supporters, Jim basically conveys most of his opinions in exactly the same way Trump does. They may have radically different political perspectives, but how they choose to present those perspectives is pretty much the same. So the irony is kind of delicious for people who dislike him. He's very much a demagogue personality relying on emotion and tricks of speech to impose his world-view, and savagely insulting anyone who disagrees with him.

Either way, the real problem isn't Cornette himself as much as his fans who aggressively take his gospel and preach it to anyone who'll listen, treating his every word like dogma, using all of his pet insults and nicknames as if it makes them sound clever, and generally coming across like parrots. It's the same reason I generally loathe political discussion of all kinds online - most of the people talking are just repeating soundbites they barely understand but which they've internalized because "my side" needs to win.
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Zeus posted...

Technically Masters was the original name for the series, so that's not unusual.

The original cartoon was "HE-MAN and the MASTERS of the universe", the theme song is just some dude singing "HE-MAN" over and over again, and literally everyone called it "He-Man". So it's kind of an understandable assumption. Especially since the later cartoons also all included "He-Man" in the title - and one of them didn't use "Masters of the Universe" at all ("The New Adventures of He-Man").

Granted, the movie was just called "Masters of the Universe", but the movie was also terrible and was more of a stealth adaptation of Kirby's Fourth World than anything actually related to MOTU, so it barely counts for anything.

It's also worth noting that while the toyline (and franchise overall) was generally known as Masters of the Universe, they also never really used that tag for anything She-ra related, so MOTU was very much reserved for the He-Man side of the line.

So let's be honest, while you could technically argue that the Masters of the Universe franchise doesn't revolve around He-Man, it totally does. And if you tune in to a MOTU show expecting He-Man but it turns out it's mostly about Man-at-Arms or Orko, you're probably going to be annoyed. So there are implications there.
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11110111011 posted...

Wow. It just isn't very good. I couldn't get past the 2nd episode.

The whole Teela thing at the end of the first episode was just awful and the 2nd episode started with characters I care nothing about. Total bait-and-switch act. No wonder He-Man's name isn't in the title.

From what I've heard, the original trailers and "reviews" for it were heavily manipulated to fool people regarding what kind of show it is, but now that the review embargos are off and people can actually talk about it everyone's pointing out that it's not like was originally presented at all. Kevin Smith's taking a bit of shit at the moment for lying about it.

Also, if you dislike Teela you're probably out of luck, because apparently the whole show is deliberately built around her.

Then again, some of the loudest complaints may be coming from people with a very specific bias, and I was never going to watch the show regardless, so I can't really say how accurate any of that is.
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Zeus posted...

The guy who broke the original story for both -- or at least took credit -- was Cassidy Haynes of BodySlam.net (have you ever heard of him or the site?) and other websites picked up on it. Almost all of them seem to eventually link back to Cassidy's original, unverified claims.

I've actually heard of BodySlam.net, yes. They break a fair number of stories.

But my point was, it doesn't really matter how unreliable the original source is if much more reputable people come out later and say "Yes, I verified this with my own sources, it's true."



IronBornCorps posted...

What's your problem with Omega?

Zeus is a Jim Cornette mark, and is thus morally obligated to hate Kenny Omega and everything he's even remotely involved with, no matter what it actually is.

Kenny Omega could save a dozen orphans from a burning building, and Cornette would accuse him of setting the fire, then complain about the invisible man and 9-year old Japanese girls for a half-hour.
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Mead posted...

I was the only one actually doing the damn objectives

That's damned suspicious.
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Mead posted...

Based on this alone, in my mind your mother and my wife would probably get along

My mother gets along with pretty much everyone. But if your wife also enjoys British mysteries they'd be the bestest of friends.
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Mead posted...

just getting fucking readers block at one point where he spends like three and a half pages to describe what part of a forest looks like

Never read Lovecraft. Most of his stories are like 27 pages of description and 4 pages of story.
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Zeus posted...

which was started by a wrestling "journalist" with an unverified Twitter handle and 2k followers, along with a no-name ".net" website

Sean Ross Sapp/Fightful is actually pretty damned reputable (about as reputable as you can be in this carny business), and other people have backed it up, so it's probably true.

But it's worth noting that all that was really reported was that Punk was talking to AEW on a regular basis (and Meltzer confirmed it's been going on for a while now). People online are the ones who've picked it up and run with it to spin it all the way up to "Punk's definitely already signed and is going to debut in Chicago", so that's on them more than anything if it doesn't happen.

It's also worth noting that even if he DOES sign he still might not wrestle. He's enough of a troll that he could potentially just want to manage or announce or guest-appear rather than sign on as an active or semi-active wrestler.

Though AEW supposedly agreed to Bryan Danielson's request for a lighter schedule and an open contract that allows him to wrestle in other places (specifically New Japan), so they'd probably be open to a more flexible deal with Punk as well, which might help convince him to have a few more matches with opponents he finds interesting (he's mentioned a number of AEW people he'd enjoy wrestling in the past).
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Muscles posted...

The only good scenes in that whole trilogy were Bilbo finding smeagol/the ring and Bilbo talking to Smaug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubynOv3VKB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17kvIcRtMhM
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My mother enjoyed that movie.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

I hate to say this, but I feel the same way about Les Mis

Les Mis the book can be a phenomenal slog.
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