Lurker > KanzarisKelshen

DOUBLE EXTEND! Enjoy the stomach cramps!
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Dante, the Agents, Sorey, Shulk and Ellie vs. Kirby.

Terrains: The Corridor (3 GP) vs. Bubbly Clouds (Max GP). Match takes place on Bubbly Clouds.
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EXTEND! Bass loses 25% of his max HP!
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Nothing happens. :(
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And crossposting from Peacetime: Luca Blight was KO'd by Wrex.
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Mewtwo vs Lopen is UNFROZEN. Mewtwo may now choose to defer for the next 15 minutes.
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We have come to terms. Lopen gets 15 minutes of extension to declare Wrex, or not.
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Tira's dual personalities have a conflict before the battle starts, and Tira is distracted for the first 5 seconds of battle (Start of Battle).
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ScareChan posted...

but wasnt he negative 18 anyways? wouldnt that just zero out

He recovered 9 GP from paydown refunds, then 20 GP from infra, which put him at positive values - enough to pay down Kefka, but not Luca or Armstrong.
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Vergil takes 139% of his max HP in damage! KO'd!
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Akuma is confused and joins the fight as a third party.
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No extend :(
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"You Kirbies are a dangerous species..."

DOUBLE EXTEND! Let's see if the Mewtwowing commands more respect than the Kirbwing!
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"I am your Mirage! The true self!"

EXTEND! No evil clones today!
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Agnes, Agents and Seraphim Clones are Sealed. Clone Shulk is Confused.

That'll be all.
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Potemkin is put to sleep, Kratos is Sealed, and Arthas...is possessed.
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Updated recharges for Gravy vs Johnbobb, headed into this week's wartime:

Gravy
Recharges: Y'shtola (Scion, 2 weeks)

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Johnbobb:
Sora (Friends, 1 week), Sonic (Super, 2 weeks), Arthas (Sindragosa, 2 weeks), Booker (Branches, 1 week)

(Note: THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE TODAY'S ABILITY PHASES. Just in case it wasn't too clear.)
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Damus possesses Raiden and brings her over to her side.

(This happened at the beginning of wartime, for clarity's sake.)
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Ellie is soul-ripped.
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Terra is KO'd. No need to roll or ask for pool selections because she blocks the whole ability.
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- SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB (Pre-Battle) - CATS sets up the match the bomb. One random rosterable mercenary from each side will be KOed, though if his attached mercenary is selected they will escape the blast and avoid the KO and CATS may choose a pool of 3 rosterable mercenaries for one of the sides.
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Spencer became an MvC legacy character just like Cap Falcon always shows up in Smash, off MvC3. Including him makes sense considering how much people loved yelling "BIONIIIIIIC AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRMMMMMM!". Do agree the roster is pretty weak tho
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Up. Should play some once I'm done eating.
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Lopen posted...

I'm saying I don't want a paydown extension I want a Wrex extension without a paydown extension. There's no reason to assume Mewtwo pays down differently without me telegraphing a Wrex kill on Luca

Trying to reach trdl atm

Will let you (and mewtwo) know what's going down as soon as I have his opinion on this
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YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING. (Start of Battle) - CATS's leader may issue an order to his attached mercenary. This order is something the mercenary will consider given from the merc's highest ranking superior, and may be given before or after rosters are done. Everyone on the team will follow the lead of CATS's attached mercenary regardless of personality or berserker traits. However the order given will be converted into CATS speak by an admin when being put into the battle write-up.
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greengravy294 posted...

i say we split the timelines so i can play mercs ty?>

You're not frozen, go do your stuff
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Lopen posted...

So basically he gets to know my intent was to kill Luca. Despite him waiting till the last possible minute to do his paydowns with all information available to him and me theoretically being able to do that anyway.

Would you say a onesided extension on paydowns is at all fair when you could've still Wrexed Luca if you wanted to?
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Lopen posted...

What if I don't want to pay anyone down and just kill Luca does he get more paydown time.

That's an interesting question cause theoretically you could've just done that regardless. My gut instinct is that the paydown window would have to time out and then you'd have a chance to use Wrex (or you could do it earlier but then he could paydown someone else in response).
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FFDragon posted...

I just don't think admin errors should ever adversely effect player plans, and that chunk of GP just materializing out of the ether in a playoff match definitely qualifies.

So the argument is what

Roll Lopen/Mewtwo back to Results, then let them redo their peacetime phase on the quick across a couple hours, THEN go to war properly?
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Lopen posted...

Also why should Mewtwo get more time for pay downs. He had information the whole time.

Because otherwise you get an unfair advantage, instead of both sides having a level playing field. It's possible he'd want to pay down Armstrong this week if you paid someone else down, for example. This really shouldn't be complicated or arguable.
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FFDragon posted...

I side with Lopen on this one. That much of a swing in GP should allow for a tier change.

The irony here is that going to Low already was a tier change since Lopen's bold was past deadline and the 'proper' roll went to High >_>

But yes, this is kind of messy. No denying that.
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Lopen posted...

He gained FIFTEEN gp? I don't even want to battle in low this week if he has that much gp. I arguably don't even want to megasteal from him. Like so much of my gameplan changes with that much more gp on table.

FWIW I don't think it was a scumlord move from Mewtwo to point this out today (waiting until there were seconds remaining to state it publically is a different story, that IS scummy). He legitimately probably just missed it up until this point. Otherwise I'm certain he would've at least put money towards EXCELSUS last week to try and force a cage match against Bass.
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(Oh, and for the sake of further fairness - these 45 minutes would start ticking down five minutes from now, at half past, assuming there are not weighty arguments against this.)
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Lopen posted...

What is Mewtwo's actual gp total.

27. Add 15 to his current one. After Kefka and Luca, 13 GP remaining.

(Note: this extra time for paydowns would apply to both sides, not just Lopen. Fair is fair.)
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Regardless though: given that you are here and present, I think it is reasonable to allow a brief extension for paydowns (and wrex) since yeah, hiding gamestate info is no bueno. 30 mins + 15 for wrex should be reasonable. Any objections?
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So you thought it was not prudent to inform me why

I did send you a discord PM. I take it it wasn't received?
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Lopen vs Mewtwo is FROZEN, for the record, at least for the moment.
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Lopen posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

I'm almost tempted to say that if errors aren't announced publically by the player whom they'd favor they shouldn't count

I agree because if he had this in his pocket the whole time I was baited into a low tier match I would've put off a week when I you know, had a low tier.

It shouldn't be my job to do bookkeeping for Mewtwo. I've caught errors for my team.

I don't think he did. I was informed a few hours ago (and spent the rest of the time prepping standings and checking to make sure it wasn't a farfetched claim). If he was hiding it for that long you'd figure he would've told me earlier after the low tier match was locked in.
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Lopen posted...

I mean how long has this been. What week. It was said this was a Chris match? So he could've revealed this last week at minimum. Maybe further! There should be a statute of limitations on reclaiming lost gp.

Koala was paid back owed GP several weeks after the fact so Mewtwo definitely should get his $$$$, the only question is whether saying so publicly right when the other person can't counter should be frowned upon or not.
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Lopen posted...

Well I picked low assuming his gp was accurate.

And I would've Wrex'd a guy were it revealed at anything resembling a normal time

This is why I ask everyone to check for errors during results

Not that I don't appreciate being informed during peace, but the standings are posted early for a reason. I'm almost tempted to say that if errors aren't announced publically by the player whom they'd favor they shouldn't count just because you should at minimum have had a chance to respond to this. I'm not super keen on players gaming information like that. >_>
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Mewtwo59 posted...

So do I have Luca or not?

Considering you paid for him, yes.
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Mewtwo59 posted...

You didn't update who on my team is eligible.

I actually did! Forgot to strike out the high tier paydowns tho
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MajinZidane posted...

yeah that one seems a little loose, what exactly caused this increase in income?

He literally said so. I forgot to subtract Chris' tier bid money and Mewtwo bid Chris' max when facing him, so he's owed some $$$$.

Lopen posted...

Is that going to fly I mean really

I checked the archives to make sure I wasn't being BS'd and it checked out. So yes, since it'd be terribly unfair to deny Mewtwo critical GP he is owed and SHOULD have right when it matters most.
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Gravy defers.
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Gravy attacks Johnbobb [Tier: High]
Scare attacks Boko [Tier: Low]

Gravy - Bossman Coolguy's Kingpins (10-0, 85GP)
Low: Eleonora Yumizuru (UPGRADED), Agnès Oblige (UPGRADED), Y'shtola (UPGRADED)
Mid: Sorey (UPGRADED), Kefka (UPGRADED), Flynn (5/5 char, 15/15 abil), Mewtwo (UPGRADED), Terra
High: Shulk (UPGRADED), Dante (UPGRADED), The Agents (UPGRADED)
Supports: Dr. Light (Link: Dante)
Recharges: Y'shtola (Scion, 3 weeks)
Notes: Four Seraphim, Dante, Kefka and Terra are Sorey's Sub Lords, Agnès is a Black Mage

~VS~

Johnbobb - Pink Floyd's "The Kirb" (5-6, 72GP)
Low: Kirby (15/15 abil), Booker (20/20 new1), Sonic (10/10 abil, 15/15 new2), Richter Belmont (10/10 new1)
Mid: Akuma (25/25 new), Sora (25/25 new), The Prince (25/25 new), Potemkin
High: Vergil (15/15 new1), Kratos, Arthas
Supports: CATS (Link: Akuma)
Recharges: Sora (Friends, 2 weeks), Sonic (Super, 3 weeks), Vergil (Cocky, 1 week), Arthas (Sindragosa, 3 weeks), Booker (Branches, 2 weeks), CATS (WAR, 1 week)
Notes: Has 5 recalls left

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Boko - Boko Reunited (9-1, 84GP)
Low: Nilin (10/10 abil2, 10/10 new), Tira (15/15 abil, 20/20 new1, 15/15 new2), Morrigan (5/5 abil, 10/10 char), Poison
Mid: Ansem (10/10 new1)
High: Lightning, Dark Samus (20/20 abil, 5/15 new), Grigori, Dizzy (20/20 abil2), Kuja (20/20 abil)
Supports: Monokuma (Link: Lightning)
Recharges: Dizzy (Child, 1 week), Nilin (Mix, 1 week), Kuja (Invincible, 5 weeks), Damus (Corruption, 3 weeks), Ansem (Darkness, 10 weeks), Lightning (Servant, 3 weeks)
Notes: Lightning has saved Serra's soul, Dizzy is Poison's client, Memory Remix has hit: The Agents, Flynn, Ellie; Damus seeds: Raiden (MGR), Morrigan is Lightning's servant, Morrigan auto-has Enhancements and Hexes, Lightning is Beary Deceptive, Poison and Dizzy are making a surprise entrance

~VS~

Scare - Team America (6-5, 28GP)
Low: Chrom (10/10 abil1-v1), Vanille (20/20 new), Cadence
Mid: Lucina the Hellspawn, Dr. Wily (15/15 abil-v1, 20/20 new), Ryu H, Bass.EXE (10/10 abil, 10/10 new), Raiden (MK) (10/10 BLUNDERING)
High: Diablo (20/20 abil, 25/25 new), Raziel (5/5 abil1, 5/5 abil2), Raiden (MGR)
Supports: Deathwing (20/20 new) (Link: Raiden)
Recharges: Raiden MK (Kombat, 1 week), Raiden MGR (Ripper, 1 week), Diablo (Terror, 3 weeks), Vanille (Sunshine, 1 week), Lucina (Foreseer, 1 week), Wily (Capsule, 2 weeks)
Notes: Scrapped RMs: Wind Man, Strike Man, Cut Man, Pharaoh Man, Ice Man, Splash Woman, Skull Man; Wily has Sword Man, Shade Man; Ryu H has 2 essence, Diablo has 25 souls, is the POKER KING
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Mewtwo attacks Lopen [Tier: Low]
Tirofog gets a bye week [Tier: None]

Lopen - Machina Maw (9-1, 122GP)
Low: Rikku (20/20 new, 5/15 char), Kirby (UPGRADED), Tira (UPGRADED)
Mid: Yu Narukami (15/15 abil-v2), Liquid Snake (15/15 new), Bass.EXE (UPGRADED), Duke Nukem (8/10 new1)
High: KOS-MOS (20/20 new1), Urdnot Wrex (25/25 new), Donte (UPGRADED)
Supports: CATS (10/10 new1, 20/20 new2) (Link: Rikku), Taiga & Illya (20/20 new1, 20/20 new2) (Link: Yu Narukami)
Recharges: KOS-MOS (Calculation, 3 weeks), Illya (Dojo, 1 week), Duke (Foot, 1 week), Rikku (Mix, 3 weeks, Steal, 4 weeks), Tira (J/G, 7 weeks), Kirby (J/G, 7 weeks), CATS (DESTRUCTION, 4 weeks),
Notes: Yu S-Links: Rikku (10), Tira (10), Bass.EXE (10), Kirby (10); Corrin is female, Wrex: Booker (3), Kefka (4); Rikku, Kirby, Tira and Duke are injured (1 week)

~VS~

Mewtwo - Ms. Ellie and the Boys (4-7, 13GP)
Low: Ryu (SF) (6/20 abil2), Eleonora Yumizuru (UPGRADED), Agnes Oblige (5/5 char, 15/15 new2)
Mid: Kefka (10/10 new), Armstrong, Luca Blight, Turok (20/20 new1, 20/20 new2, 10/10 char-v1)
High: Revan (20/20 abil1), Id (15/15 new1, 20/20 new2), Grigori, Raiden (MGR)
Supports: Phoenix Wright (Link: Ellie) (15/15 new2)
Recharges: Raiden (Ripper, 2 weeks), Turok (Totem, 3 weeks), Phoenix (OBJECTION!, 2 weeks), Ryu (Law, 7 weeks), Ellie (Final Hour, 6 weeks), Armstrong (Believe, 1 week), Id (Split, 3 weeks)
Notes: Turok has all abilities + Pulse Rifle, Revan is a Neutral Scoundrel Sentinel, Turok is Joseph Turok, Agnes is a White Mage, Id is a PS for Luca

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Tirofog - Ride The Lightning (5-6, 44GP)
Low: Sub-Zero (5/15 new3), Booker DeWitt (20/20 CAGE), Ryu3 (10/10 abil2), Nilin (UPGRADED)
Mid: Cloud Strife (20/20 new1), Terra Branford
High: Archer (30/30 UBW), Lightning, Lilith (15/15 abil1)
Supports: Professor Oak (15/15 abil, 15/15 new1) (Link: Nilin), Chrom (Link: Lightning), Yuffie Kisaragi (Link: Lightning)
Recharges: Lightning (Aether, 1 week, Pair Up, 1 week), Archer (Drowning, 4 weeks), Cloud (..., 4 weeks), Lilith (Phase Strike, 4 weeks), Ryu3 (Accession, 4 weeks)
Notes: Cloud is Archer's master, Lilith is a Controller, Ryu3 genes: Pac-Man, Neptune, Thrall, Fetch, Armstrong, Grigori, Diablo, Damus, Geese, Crono, Kuja, Neclord, Kahn, Alice, Mega Man, Sorey, D.va, Knuckles; Memory Mix bans: Bass, Elma, Kain; Lilith is Cloud's waifu, Lightning has Master Emerald (3 weeks)

~VS~

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Can't, she's undead.
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Nobody could tell me bout all this crap in results huh

(my bad for getting it right the first time but TRUE SADNESS still)
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ScareChan posted...

So 2 weeks and ticks one down in results

Two weeks of cooldown. As in, two weeks of 'you cannot use this'. Meaning it starts ticking down the week after being used.
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ScareChan posted...

shouldnt wily capsule only be 1 week?

No, Ellie's sessions cost 20 XP
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