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TopicDBZ Dokkan Battle Topic - Thank You Tickets Return
HashtagSEP
12/24/18 5:02:03 PM
#186
Yeah, Im out of story stuff to do. Ive just had extremely bad luck with pulls in general. Some of my best cards I only got because I literally bought them with those special stones you got from buying certain packs or whatever.

Ill probably keep it around and just get daily gifts, but I cant get myself excited for banners anymore because Ive gone tens of thousands of stones without good return, and now the game is starting to power creep me out of everything
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TopicDBZ Dokkan Battle Topic - Thank You Tickets Return
HashtagSEP
12/24/18 3:15:47 AM
#184
I think Im done with the game because the power creep gacha garbage is getting to me and I cant even just get characters that I like

Thanks for all the help up to now everyone!
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TopicDBZ Dokkan Battle Topic - Thank You Tickets Return
HashtagSEP
12/24/18 3:12:54 AM
#183
280 gems and the only featured ones I got were
SRs

My SSRs were all garbage like Good Buu

I have great sadness and also hatred
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TopicDBZ Dokkan Battle Topic - Thank You Tickets Return
HashtagSEP
12/21/18 3:09:38 PM
#164
Thanks!

I'm trying to build an INT team, particularly for against EZA Cell.

https://imgur.com/a/XWSaV8E

Any advice?
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TopicDBZ Dokkan Battle Topic - Thank You Tickets Return
HashtagSEP
12/21/18 1:19:38 PM
#161
So I can unlock all paths on INT Janemba. I think I heard he's getting an EZA eventually. Anybody know the best way to go with those additional stats?
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Topicyour guys thoughts on Smash Ultimate
HashtagSEP
12/20/18 2:01:49 PM
#15
Santa reeeeeally hates inconvenience, so stuff like the aforementioned menuing and stuff like it not saving which costume you used really bug him

Not saying he's wrong

Doesn't bother me much, though. Best Smash by far.
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TopicSmash Bros Ultimate Topic 3: Mii Swordfighter Edition
HashtagSEP
12/19/18 4:42:34 PM
#255
All stages are available from the start. Saffron City's there.
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TopicOne removed from The Last Jedi-- The movie is still fucking awesome (spoilers)
HashtagSEP
12/19/18 3:10:56 PM
#61
CelesMyUserName posted...
Bitch Admiral Lady >>>>>>>>>>>>> Poe

ST needs to stop trying to make Poe a thing he's garbage and his plot in TLJ was pure shite.


Nah Poe is great
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TopicOne removed from The Last Jedi-- The movie is still fucking awesome (spoilers)
HashtagSEP
12/19/18 12:38:47 PM
#18
Nanis23 posted...
I mean really you could have a nice topic saying you disagree with people that hated it and explain why you think it was a good movie
But instead you act like a stupid child "lol bunch of nerds" "fuck off with that" "fuuuuuccck"

Elitist nerd


This might be the most hilarious post in the world judging by who it's coming from
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 464: Keep Her Name Out Your Mouth
HashtagSEP
12/19/18 9:12:19 AM
#313
Ali's great, though, so it's okay

I, for one, accept the coming mega push that WWE surely won't screw up
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TopicCloud is in full beast mode this contest
HashtagSEP
12/14/18 3:56:45 PM
#10
GreatnessIsHere posted...
What do you think happens when those games come out?


I don't believe GameFAQs will still be around in 2055 when FFVIIR comes out
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TopicBlizzard cancels plans for Heroes of the Storm esports stuff.
HashtagSEP
12/14/18 3:49:00 PM
#12
Shaduln posted...
Except they said they are still going to be reworking heroes and releasing new heroes?


GASP! Didn't you know that you know less about the game you follow and play than people that read an article on the internet? Dead games aren't fun for anybody, but surely you knew that. You didn't? REALLY?! And you have two badges?!

AH-HAHAHAHAHA!
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TopicSuper Smash Bros. Ultimate Topic 2: Unlock your characters, get your mains
HashtagSEP
12/14/18 3:04:47 PM
#459
I feel like using a hammer on the "don't use hammers" achievement would rip a hole in time and space
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/14/18 1:06:45 PM
#330
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Bryan says what's really hard is having an intervention with Vince. He's not wrong. But Steph and Trips should be the ones pushing for this because it will be their company soon enough. They have the most to lose.

I still don't necessarily understand what is so hard about writing a 3 hour wrestling show still. Like, take out commercials and you're down to maybe 2.25 hours, if that. And then add in match times where the writers are largely uninvolved for the most part except for a finish. Take out time for entrances and stuff too and promotional videos and that takes even less time out. So they have 30+ people there to write awful dialogue for people and figure out a general storyline direction? That somehow it's so hard that it has the writers up at 3 in the morning trying to figure out?

It sounds like the whole creative process is seriously fucked up somewhere.


I mean, it's definitely harder than most TV in that you gotta fill atleast 2.25 hours every single week with literally no normal "seasons" to create downtime in between, and you gotta do so by taking into account that people will or will not react the way you are hoping to and things may or may not need to be changed on the fly, whether because of that or an injury or who knows what else.

So is it likely very difficult? Yes.

Is it anywhere near as difficult as they seem to be making it, or too difficult for a company that has as much money as WWE? Absolutely not.
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TopicDISTURBING realization that I haven't noticed for over 20 years [sm64]
HashtagSEP
12/14/18 9:39:12 AM
#20
Yeah, I hear it instantly now yet never realized it before.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 2:25:11 PM
#308
TheRock1525 posted...
The movies that make the most money have clearcut heroes and villains. Doesn't mean the villain can't be endearing or even somewhat right (why hello there, Kilmonger) but at the end of the day I think the WWE very much needs to live in the world of "here's our good guys, here's our bad guys, they will fight."


To be fair, the most popular movies have also had clear cut examples where popular reaction dictated what a hero or villain was!

The government tried to tell people to like Captain America, and he got booed by the "core fanbase" (the army). But then through his actions, he won them over and actually became the hero the government wanted him to be. Then the government decided to label him a villain over that one accident, but people still mostly stood by him until they actually witnessed him fighting other heroes, causing destruction, and so on. Then he became a villain/criminal to the people.

The cases where the government tried to tell people what to think basically failed, but people had natural reactions to his actions.
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TopicSuper Smash Bros. Ultimate Topic 2: Unlock your characters, get your mains
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 2:14:50 PM
#350
ExThaNemesis posted...
Incineroar is the worst character in the game.

Imagine having a f-smash that you need an additional input on in order to make it work.


I haven't played him much. Are you being literal, or are you referring to his command grab?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 2:08:26 PM
#305
NBIceman posted...
As an outsider, I have no idea what's actually going on with Becky or that segment, but the whole thing was caused apparently by semantics born out of the binary face/heel dynamic and the extent to which people even think it exists or has to exist.


To be a bit more clear, my argument wasn't that face/heel should or has to exist. My argument was moreso that WWE is very much keeping Becky in a place where they can easily tell fans "You shouldn't cheer her now" at any point and against any opponent, be it Asuka or Rousey or whatever, and thus I couldn't get on board with the thought of giving WWE the benefit of the doubt on stuff that's happening now because they're still going to try and tell fans what to think regardless of what they actually think, instead of just embracing the reactions.

And because of that, it kinda dampens my enjoyment of the product a bit, because I know that even though I like something now, next week I could get WWE going "Okay well now you have to boo her because X."
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 2:04:17 PM
#303
Eddv posted...
Lopen posted...
Normally I'd be with you, but unlike most things this is good in the now so I don't care as much.

Usually it's me saying "they're going to ruin it" when we've got tepid/bad segments that could potentially be leading to something good. I actually enjoy the (top 3 of) Smackdown Women's division right now though so while them ruining it is a likely scenario it's not really a "give it a chance" kind of thing. It doesn't need to be given a chance. It's just good as it is. Knowing they'll ruin it shouldn't hurt the enjoyment right now. I'll just let it ruin the enjoyment then and enjoy that it's much better than expected now.


Bingo. Is this train gonna run out of fuel? Absofuckinglutely.

Is it good now? Yes.

Their goal with Becky is very obviously to push her as a Tweener so she can feud with both Charlotte and Rousey (who you cant turn heel because shes literally your only full time star with mainstream appeal when Cena isn't around).

This is how they get there.


This is what I'm expecting and am fine with, that she's the "face" against Charlotte and will be the heel against Rousey.

I just got told their goal now was for her to be face, not tweener/heel later, and thus the argument.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 1:30:12 PM
#298
Lopen posted...
I guess the only real thing is that you see it more likely she could go fully heel with minimal change to the presentation and character than he does.


It basically comes down to that he thinks the Charlotte turn/Becky sorta-turn happened due to WWE caving in to fans and was the long term plan all along. I think it was a product of the audible from Becky getting hurt, that they wanted a heel to beat down Rousey, regardless, and so I am skeptical of the longevity of us "getting what we want," and, like you said, they could just change course at the drop of a hat.

It's not even a huge disagreement. He's just very adamant and, well, I never miss a chance to argue.

It basically amounts to that I'm skeptical and believe I have reason to be, given WWE's history, whereas Rock says I'm just looking for stuff to be negative about.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:54:59 PM
#294
Lopen posted...
I agree but I just don't see the problem with that, I guess. It seems like a weird thing to have an argument about. She's clearly being booked as the top woman of her division, and credibly, which is all that matters.


I don't see a problem with it, either, necessarily. Rock does. The argument is basically that I said she's not face and he insists she is and it got overblown from there.

Basically, Rock believes that WWE is listening to the fans and building toward this grand Becky face revival/mega star push of Austin levels. I made a post like a week ago saying I'd be happy if it went there, but I'm skeptical of WWE actually doing that, because it feels more like any of Becky's "face" qualities just came specifically because of WWE's last moment Charlotte heel turn in order to get the Ronda Rousey story that they wanted. I said I'm skeptical because this doesn't feel like it's WWE giving us what we want, it feels more like they just called an audible, and I'm worried about what happens when the audible ends. He then started his whole "You just want to be negative and look for negatives, even when they're giving us what we want" schtick and here we are.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:47:20 PM
#290
Lopen posted...
I mean if you wanna be a skeptic and say they're bound to mess it up then fine but I think the finish to Smackdown was done about as well as it could be.


I agree. Because Becky's not face.

That's my only point.

I'm not actually saying the segment is bad. I'm saying it works perfectly fine specifically because she's not a face.

We can agree to disagree on the levels of how well it'd work if she was, but I'm not actually saying the segment was bad.

My entire argument is just that WWE views Becky as a tweener at best. They don't currently view her as a full blown face.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:45:56 PM
#286
TheRock1525 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
You ask her ONE TIME to take a beating to establish Asuka and it just ruined everything, apparently.


It ruins it if she's a face, yes.

Which is why she's not a face.

Which is my initial fucking point.


So basically you want Becky to be all powerful and never ever lose. And that faces can never fight each other or stand tall over one another.

Even though its happened all the time in WWE. Michaels over Cena. Rock over Austin.

God no wonder you all fucking loved Strowman when I found him boring as fuck.


I literally never said any of that and you're being dishonest on purpose.

I am 100% FINE with Becky being beat down.

Literally the reason we're arguing is because I say she's not a face and you insist she is.

I'm saying that Asuka beating Becky down and standing over her is stupid if WWE is pushing Becky as a face mega star.

But they're not, so it's fine.

That's literally my whole point. The segment is fine because Becky isn't a face in WWE's logic. She's a tweener.

I'm saying the segment would be stupid if she were seen as the next big thing face, and so the segment going the way it did is proof that WWE does not see her that way in the current moment. They see her as a tweener at best.

The segment as it stands is perfectly fine.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:40:50 PM
#278
Lopen posted...
Eh I think even if she was a full face it's fine-- face Austin has stunned faces before, but I agree she's not one yet.


Well, Austin stunning faces and faces beating down Austin are two different things. Becky beating down Asuka would be expected, but Asuka, the full face, beating down Becky and with the message of we're supposed to cheer means Becky isn't supposed to be seen as a face.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:39:15 PM
#276
TheRock1525 posted...
You ask her ONE TIME to take a beating to establish Asuka and it just ruined everything, apparently.


It ruins it if she's a face, yes.

Which is why she's not a face.

Which is my initial fucking point.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:36:43 PM
#273
Lopen posted...
Face standing tall over tweener leaning face and heel is completely fine.


This is what I'm getting at.

Rock is insisting Becky's a full blown face.

I'm saying she's a tweener at best.

That's literally the area of contention. I'm saying that if Rock wants to believe Becky is being pushed as an actual face, even a morally ambiguous one, then what they did was wrong.

If she's a tweener, then it's fine.

The argument initially started over whether WWE sees her as a face mega star or not. I said they do not. I said that Asuka standing tall over her means they don't view her as more than a tweener.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:33:53 PM
#271
NBIceman posted...
Are we just going to ignore scarlet's post, then? Because he was 100% right.

What about a brawl to the back? Those have fallen out of favor too and they're usually great.


I mean that's partially what I'm saying. Rock is adamant on Charlotte reaffirming herself as a heel, so have Becky and Asuka stare each other down in the end if he doesn't want the former to change.

I don't actually care what it got changed to... Stare down, brawl, whatever.. I'm simply arguing that Asuka beating down Becky and then standing over her as a face was the wrong move.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:33:02 PM
#269
TheRock1525 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
If WWE actually is trying to push Becky like this Austin-esque face mega star, then yes, having another face beat her down, stand over her, and get cheered for it is stupid.


Cause Rock or Mankind never stood tall over Austin.


If you can come up with a segment where both Rock and Austin, or Mankind and Austin were both faces, and Rock/Mankind beat down Austin, stood over him, and got cheered, then please do.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:31:14 PM
#266
TheRock1525 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
..Literally where did I say that? Everything else can play out the same way. You just keep Becky out of it and have her stare down Asuka at the end.


So Charlotte gets DQ'd, wails on Asuka, then Asuka turns the tables and it makes Charlotte look like a reasonable contender... how?

"Oh look, I can't beat Asuka so I bet get DQ'd."
"Oh fiddle sticks, I can't even do a proper beatdown. And I've lost twice to Becky clean on PPV recently. Please take me seriously in this upcoming match."


...I mean literally both of these things are what happened in the segment you're defending to begin with...?

Have her get distracted showing off to Becky while she's beating on Asuka if you really want. It's not hard.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:29:18 PM
#264
Like, this would be the equivalent of Elias just turning face, but then because there's a feud of Him/Lashley/Rollins, Rollins beats Elias down and stands over him to cheers, and then going "Yep, WWE nailed Elias's face turn!"
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:26:41 PM
#262
If WWE actually is trying to push Becky like this Austin-esque face mega star, then yes, having another face beat her down, stand over her, and get cheered for it is stupid.

So either your premise that this is what WWE wants is wrong
Or the ending was stupid

Pick one.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:25:28 PM
#260
TheRock1525 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
Though if you want a legitimate answer, which I don't think you actually do...

You have Becky not even get involved at all. Much like when she left the contract signing early, you have her keep her distance and look on while whatever happens between Charlotte/Asuka. Then, if it still ends in Asuka standing tall, you have her stare her down and end the show there. You certainly don't have her get beat up and stood over by somebody who you're portraying as a better face/more deserving of being cheered and basically go "Cheer this one!"


So basically you have either Charlotte (who's on a PPV losing streak) or Asuka (same) take a significant loss before the PPV with no involvement from the champ.

But the way they did it was stupid. Uh-huh.


...Literally where did I say that? Everything else can play out the same way. You just keep Becky out of it and have her stare down Asuka at the end.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:24:07 PM
#258
TheRock1525 posted...
They pretty much nailed this segment and you are so desperate to complain about anything that you want to argue it was wrong.


HashtagSEP posted...
"WWE did something stupid but it's your fault, not their fault."

Okay, I see you're sticking with that argument.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:21:05 PM
#256
Though if you want a legitimate answer, which I don't think you actually do...

You have Becky not even get involved at all. Much like when she left the contract signing early, you have her keep her distance and look on while whatever happens between Charlotte/Asuka. Then, if it still ends in Asuka standing tall, you have her stare her down and end the show there. You certainly don't have her get beat up and stood over by somebody who you're portraying as a better face/more deserving of being cheered and basically go "Cheer this one!"
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 12:15:24 PM
#254
TheRock1525 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
If WWE actually thought of her as an Austin face and actually wanted her cheered as such, they wouldn't have literally just gone out of their way to use her to have Asuka get cheered over her/at her expense.


If the WWE wanted Charlotte to be heel, they wouldn't have had her attack two of the most annoying heels on the roster the first Smackdown after her heel turn at Survivor Series.

Like someone had to stand tall before a PPV, what did you want? Becky and Asuka to stand tall together, completely contradicting Becky's character? Maybe have a dumb Ryback/Cena tug of war over the belt while Charlotte's CM Punk looks on with sadness? If Becky stood tall at the end over Asuka and Charlotte, it wouldn't say any more or less about their alignment AND make it more susceptible for her to lose. And if Charlotte won you would be bitching about how the WWE makes everything about Charlotte and this is just further evidence it will be Charlotte vs. Ronda at WM.

Please tell me the ending you would have preferred that reinforced Becky as a face while not contradicting her Austin-style behaviour.


"WWE did something stupid but it's your fault, not their fault."

Okay, I see you're sticking with that argument.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 11:56:02 AM
#251
TheRock1525 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Because Asuka is the conquering face. Becky is the morally questionable Austin-style face. That should be pretty obvious when she says she's gonna slap everyone on the roster after telling them to form a line.


Nah. The fact that we were supposed to cheer Asuka over BOTH of them means they're both shades of heel. WWE does not think Becky is a face right now. They're just portraying her as slightly less heel than Charlotte.


Becky cuts promos literally thanking the crowd = they still think she's a heel.

Alright.


If WWE actually thought of her as an Austin face and actually wanted her cheered as such, they wouldn't have literally just gone out of their way to use her to have Asuka get cheered over her/at her expense.

WWE is purposely keeping Becky within the lines of heeldom/as close to it as they can so that Ronda's the conquering face against her. The only person they actually want Becky cheered against is Charlotte.

It's barely been a few weeks and they've already gone "Cheer for this other person instead, cheer for this other person instead!"
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 11:31:39 AM
#242
TheRock1525 posted...
Because Asuka is the conquering face. Becky is the morally questionable Austin-style face. That should be pretty obvious when she says she's gonna slap everyone on the roster after telling them to form a line.


Nah. The fact that we were supposed to cheer Asuka over BOTH of them means they're both shades of heel. WWE does not think Becky is a face right now. They're just portraying her as slightly less heel than Charlotte.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 11:25:46 AM
#237
TheRock1525 posted...
What she do that was super heel-y on Smackdown? Because all I saw was her talk shit per usual then get attacked by Charlotte so she retaliated. Like was Asuka a heel because she smashed people with a weapon, too?


She just watched Charlotte cheat and beat up Asuka, a face, and then Asuka was portrayed as the conquering face that took both out and got to be cheered standing tall. The hero shot to close out the show was literally Asuka standing over Becky.

WWE has them as squabbling heel and heel people like less, Becky and Charlotte respectively, and face Asuka.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 10:58:26 AM
#227
TheRock1525 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Then there's reaching such a level of cynicism that if you're not even AS negative about the product as others then you're a stupid idiot.


Also this isn't the case. What makes somebody a "stupid idiot" is when they say things like "Rusev and Cesaro are exactly where they deserve to be" and then go apeshit on somebody for saying "I don't trust WWE with this Becky angle." You say people get on your case for not being negative, but you got on my case for even daring to think this angle isn't going to be utterly perfect.


I have literally never said that but a-o-fucking-k.


TheRock1525 posted...
No one should be lamenting the fates of Rusev, Cesaro, or Zack Ryder. They basically ended up where they deserved to be.


...?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 10:57:04 AM
#225
Eddv posted...
on others Rusev was getting over as a face with a heel act and predictably when they turned him face finally it didnt go well because.... Its not a face act. We argued about it in this topic and it came true.


I disagree with this because literally like a few short weeks into them actually being faces and getting cheered, they nuked the angle by starting to tease a breakup for months on end. It was definitely working initially.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 10:20:31 AM
#220
TheRock1525 posted...
Then there's reaching such a level of cynicism that if you're not even AS negative about the product as others then you're a stupid idiot.


Also this isn't the case. What makes somebody a "stupid idiot" is when they say things like "Rusev and Cesaro are exactly where they deserve to be" and then go apeshit on somebody for saying "I don't trust WWE with this Becky angle." You say people get on your case for not being negative, but you got on my case for even daring to think this angle isn't going to be utterly perfect.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 10:13:32 AM
#219
TheRock1525 posted...
And you act like they spent years fighting Becky's current reaction. They spent, what, a month? 6 weeks? Wow they just fought tooth and nail over it. This ain't Roman here.


I still can't believe that you still think WWE "gave the fans what they want" on Becky and didn't just adapt to a situation they felt was more important (Rousey).

Hell, this past Smackdown just proved Becky's still a heel in WWE's eyes.
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TopicDBZ Dokkan Battle Topic - Thank You Tickets Return
HashtagSEP
12/13/18 10:00:08 AM
#122
Are we expecting anything really good soon or is the future Gohan banner worth pulling on?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/12/18 1:38:49 PM
#160
They just had Ali take on Bryan so maybe they'll start integrating them more

I can dream
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TopicIncineroar sucks.
HashtagSEP
12/12/18 9:46:32 AM
#19
Haste_2 posted...
Just the name "Inceneroar" sucks. It has no ring to it. Charizard works great. Likewise with Typhlosion. Infernape is decent. Blaziken, too.


Incinerate
Incineroar

It's great and follows the same naming theme
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TopicSamus beats Mario by 448 votes without the Registered Voter boost.
HashtagSEP
12/11/18 4:00:46 PM
#8
The will of GameFAQs has spoken

Get rekt smaus
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TopicThis contest is exactly why Chrono needs to be in Smash.
HashtagSEP
12/11/18 11:36:51 AM
#18
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Menji posted...
You want another swordsman?


Get rid of corrin and Ike. Useless garbage.


Ike is great and I'm sorry you're not cool enough to realize that

And that's putting aside "Get rid of two of the unique ones and keep all the clonessss"
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
HashtagSEP
12/11/18 10:05:12 AM
#81
I take offense to this discussion

Farts McDoogle is a respected journalist and has worked hard to build up the credibility he has. To see his name thrown about with such disrespect is shocking.

If I don't get my news from Farts McDoogle, it's not news.
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TopicImportant FFVIII news, apparently (mega spoilers?)
HashtagSEP
12/10/18 3:19:11 PM
#17
LeonhartFour posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
It has always made the most sense


I mean not really

it's based on a misinterpretation of what the game tells you about sorceresses having to pass on their powers before they die and some people thought that meant they were essentially immortal

I'm sure Square is aware the theory exists so that might have just been a fun nod to it


Well, they did a "fun nod" in Dissidia, too, by making their exclusive specials named the same! And it's not really just laziness since no other hero/villain sets did that.
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TopicThe, uh...the first Sonic the Hedgehog movie poster is, uh...
HashtagSEP
12/10/18 12:26:15 PM
#33
Yeah, I don't really see the problem too much? It's strange because we're not used to seeing Sonic with realistic arms/legs, but beyond that... Eh, it's fine?
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