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TopicSit down and write the damn thing.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 4:09:49 PM
#11
ai123 posted...
That's not 'over' revision, That's bad revision. Often the result of too many different people having input.

An author refining their work with a competent editor will get best results.

Don't even worry about 'over' revision, and definitely don't make it an excuse for not working on the text.

True. Each one of the three examples that I mentioned had outside input.

Super Mario Bros.: The Movie had new directors wanting to turn the story into Blade Runner Lite for the MTV generation before Nintendo told them to cut out the violence and sexual innuendo. Tomorrow Never Dies had Henry Kissinger of all people telling them that their original plot was a bad idea. They hastily cobbled together a new story about a news mogul starting wars so that he could write about them. And The Lost World saw Michael Crichton pressured by Steven Spielberg to write a sequel he never intended only for 80% of the content to be disregarded.

But, still. I do run into issues on my own. Like, I feel that my antagonist is lacking, so I flesh them out and develop their personality more only to read older notes and discover that this was a case where less was certainly more.
TopicSit down and write the damn thing.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 4:01:49 PM
#8
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


That's a lot to juggle. I've mostly given up hobbies and I'm still getting nowhere fast.

Trumble posted...
The biggest obstacle I've always had to this is worrying that people will just go full English-teacher on it and overanalyze it for shit that just isn't there. Seems dumb, but it really puts me off wanting to make anything with much of a story to it.

I'm worried about projection in a "Will people claim that I'm racist if this character has anger issues?" kind of way. Paranoid is probably a more accurate term.
TopicSit down and write the damn thing.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 3:58:40 PM
#7
Doe posted...
Things I learned at college
* A change in setting is a scenario, a change in character is a story
* The most important part of the process is the revision.

This is a double-edged sword though.

Many substandard stories come about because of over-revision. They revise, they revise, they revise, and then they become so fatigued with revision that they stick with an idea that isn't as good as the ones that they had previously discarded. This is what happened with films like The Lost World: Jurassic Park, the 007 flick Tomorrow Never Dies, and Super Mario Bros.: The Movie.
Topic"Coyote vs ACME" won't actually see the light of day.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 3:52:57 PM
#5
I think the film would have eulogized the Road Runner cartoons. How could you make new shorts about Wile E. Coyote using Acme products to try and catch the Road Runner after making a movie about a lawsuit? Even if they were in different continuities, I think people would be looking at it like it was a settled dispute.

That said, the whole notion of a tax write-off on a movie is terrible. It's literally charging people for a film they're never going to see because that money comes from tax-payers. I agree with the people in the other topic who said that, if you're going to label a property as a write-off, it should automatically be released to the public domain.

Even then, it's still bullshit to think that you deserve money because you wrote film that isn't likely to perform well at the box office. But, at the very least, they should not be able to shelve it and make money off of it.
TopicSit down and write the damn thing.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 3:49:07 PM
#3
Heh.

I'm going over the outline now. I just realized that I hadn't actually established in the new outline what the relationship was because I hadn't settled on whether they would be siblings or cousins. This is a mess. I'm indecisive to a point that I can spend 20 minutes debating over what I want for dinner and I'm trying to write a coherent story.

BucketCat posted...
me with gamedev lol.

you got this, TC. I do too. we got this.

Thanks. Best of luck with the game development.
TopicAre you an uncle/aunt?
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 3:25:49 PM
#12
Two nephews, one niece.

TopicCindy Crawford's daughter: "reading is sexy"
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 3:22:48 PM
#2
Very sexy.

Reading is nice too.
TopicCoyote vs Acme to be a Tax Write off and deleted.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 3:15:54 PM
#92
This is too easy to abuse.

I bet you that, if you wanted to independently tell a story with the same premise, WB could still sue claiming that they originated the concept. Not only can they make money off of films without ever releasing them, but they can potentially play dog-in-a-manger with regards to scenarios and content.
TopicSit down and write the damn thing.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 3:12:46 PM
#1
Two weeks ago, I rewrote the outline for the story that I'm working on. I eliminated a love triangle and made the woman at the center of it the sister of the guy she wasn't currently dating. Now, I want to reinsert that aspect of the story and I have to painstakingly go through line by line and change it back.

I do have an earlier draft saved, yes.

However, that wasn't the only change made to the story. Since I want to keep the other changes, I'm going to have to do a side by side comparison of the two drafts and handpick the scenarios that I want to keep.

I need to stop outlining, stop second-guessing myself, and just lock myself into one scenario by actually sitting down and writing it.
TopicWhy are the choices only "War is bad" and "Wow cool robot!"?
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 2:10:39 PM
#5
War is bad, but cool?
TopicBob Igor says Marvel is cutting the fat.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 2:07:12 PM
#56
I like the idea of limiting the MCU to key franchises and putting greater focus on them.

....but we know it's going to mean cutting out heroes like Black Panther and Shang Chi to have more White superheroes instead.

>_>
TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 2:05:29 PM
#132
When did I say that you claimed to argue something other than what you have posted?
TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 11:30:39 AM
#130
LightningThief posted...
As for whether you want to block me, just do it. Some seem to think that's some kind of devastating thing to announce.

I don't think that you'll be hurt by not being able to read my posts anymore. I'm just giving fair warning that I don't think that you're posting in good faith anymore and that I'm ready to be done with you.

My posts have all been about that meme I posted of those crying boohoo tears about seeing more non white people in entertainment, and falsely waving the banner of "accuracy" in stories where it doesn't apply.

I don't think that meme was ever about people waving a banner of historical accuracy. It's just about people being mad at seeing People of Color in their media.
TopicThey make a big deal about batmans no kill rule but.....
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 11:23:26 AM
#18
It doesn't make sense that an individual as obsessive as Batman would have a no kill rule. At this point in his mythology, jest just the Punisher without guns.

Everything points to him being someone who would snuff out a life, but he's owned by a studio that finds that morally reprehensible to a point that "good guys don't kill" is life's one self-evident truth. (Remember World War II when the Allies beat up and arrested all of the Nazis?) That, and they want the excuse for return villains.
TopicCoyote vs Acme to be a Tax Write off and deleted.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 11:18:59 AM
#57
I'd rather have Batgirl or Popeye.
TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 11:17:42 AM
#128
I've given several counterarguments to your accusation of hate. You're still stuck on the notion that nobody would push back against a hardline quota except for hatred.

I don't believe at this point that you're discussing this in good faith. Either you're too proud to admit that you might have been premature in your assumption or you're trolling for the sake of trolling. Either way, I should block you and be done with it.

TopicWow, Kevin Nash fucking sucks
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 11:11:57 AM
#5
Nash has a said some things over the years that I've agreed with. But, with the benefit of hindsight, I don't know that he's ever said one positive or sympathetic thing regarding women.

Vince traps a woman in increasingly nonconsensual scenarios. He's protected by an NDA. She's freed from it, and from him, when he fails to pay. And all Nash has to say is that she's looking for a payday?

Not a good look for him. It's not even a defense of Vince. It's just a straight up attack on his victim.
TopicCoyote vs Acme to be a Tax Write off and deleted.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 11:00:34 AM
#48
Ivynn posted...
A man who hates movies is running a movie studio.

Ugh. It's Cartoon Network all over again.
Or WWE all over again.

How do people who hate the thing keep becoming boss of the thing?
TopicChristian theocracy in action. (Arizona's "RESPECT" Act)
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 10:57:35 AM
#23
hockeybabe89 posted...
You sound a little triggered

There do exists theistic Satanists. (Probably fewer in number than sun-worshippers.) For the most part, you have the LaVeyan method of, "I'm worshipping the bad guy, lol."

It's a protest religion. And they have every right to it.

I don't have to like it. That's what freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and freedom of speech are all about. As long they're not actively hurting you, they're allowed to do as they please.

So, while I don't like their religion, the thing that triggers me in this equation is someone telling them they have no right to it. I don't have to like their religion. You don't have like to like mine. The important thing is that people are allowed to keep their own religion, or leave religion alone, so long as they don't infringe upon the rights of others. This Christian group is attempting to do just that.
TopicPresident Biden can't remember when he was VP or when Beau died
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 10:48:54 AM
#320
1337toothbrush posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2dcf07f2.jpg


FortuneCookie posted...
If Biden died, I would vote his corpse over Trump.

TopicCoyote vs Acme to be a Tax Write off and deleted.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 10:47:55 AM
#39
WB is making a business out of charging the general public for movies they don't get to see.
TopicPresident Biden can't remember when he was VP or when Beau died
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 1:07:50 AM
#311
If Biden died, I would vote his corpse over Trump.
TopicRemember being a CHAD was a thing?
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 12:57:12 AM
#3
You couldn't have Chad as an alpha and Chud as an omega. It's too confusing, too easy to hit the wrong key. One had to go, so we stuck with chuds.
TopicChristian theocracy in action. (Arizona's "RESPECT" Act)
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 12:54:47 AM
#7
electricbugs2 posted...
Pointless.

Hobbs is going to veto this and send it back to them with a loogie in it. What a complete waste of time.

Now that I think about it, that's probably their only real intention. They'll get shot down, but it'll appeal to religious conservatives because they're were the ones fighting the good fight. It's the damned liberals who want to protect Satan and his wicked followers.
TopicChristian theocracy in action. (Arizona's "RESPECT" Act)
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 12:52:22 AM
#5
Satanism exists as a troll religion. But, yeah, this is absolute bullshit.

And don't put me on their side, but this is the kind of bullshit that inspires people to troll in the name of Satan.
TopicAll cosmetics in Stellar Blade are in-game unlockables.
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 12:45:57 AM
#4
Nice.
TopicThe Rock is the head of the table .
FortuneCookie
02/09/24 12:11:31 AM
#5
To this day, it bugs me that HHH scored the last pinfall in their rivalry.
TopicMan beats his own father to death for getting covid vaccine
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 11:40:17 PM
#14
More and more, this cult turns into the one from Conan the Barbarian.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1bd95819.jpg

"You see this? They call it the 'Fangs of the Serpent.' And this one was thrust into a father's heart by his very son! And my own daughter has fallen under this Thulsa Doom's spell. Is there a dagger such as this in her hand for me?"
TopicHouthi Rebels Sentence 13 to Death on Homosexuality Charges in Yemen
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 11:30:36 PM
#6
In real life, rebel scum usually are scum.

>_>
TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 11:12:59 PM
#122
Robot2600 posted...
again many people are missing what disney is actually saying.

one way to think of it is this:

"At least half the staff should be women, but if you can't find a woman then a black person, gay, old white man, or handicapped person will do."

an "Underrepresented" group is also old people. white women. white straight christian women count. an old white guy would count.

biggest nothingburger of a memo

We established that a long time ago. I don't know why this conversation is still going.

TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 10:44:56 PM
#119
LightningThief posted...
Notice literally none of my post not once said the word hatred.

You are correct that you never typed the word. But you directly accused me of hate by deflecting my use of the word back at me. Your exact words were "That is what you are saying." The word that, in this context, referred to hatred. You were directly accusing me of hatred.

Anyway, I don't care about Beauty and the Beast. It was just an offhanded example.

All I'm saying is that hardline quotas can potentially get in the way of certain stories. There may be times where having a predominant ethnic group can contribute to a story rather than detract from it. (I extend that courtesy to all peoples.) If you disagree, you disagree. Maybe you feel in earnest that literally every story, regardless of setting, would benefit from the diaspora of humanity comprising the majority of cast members rather than any individual ethnic group. But don't project bigotry if someone else feels otherwise. That's too great of an assumption to say that it's the only reason someone might disagree.

I've even said that 80% of stories would benefit from having half or more of the cast be comprised of members of underrepresented groups.
TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 12:49:31 PM
#113
LightningThief posted...
I didn't say you did this either.


LightningThief posted...
More blatant by the fact that you think Black History films teaching about literally black history is a counter argument, further proving you do not understand the difference.

Ugh.

I would appreciate it if you kept your stories straight.

TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 12:45:12 PM
#111
LightningThief posted...
The word hatred was never typed in any of my posts.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/08aa1774.png

Don't pull an "I'm not touching you" because you technically didn't type the word. I said I don't hate minorities and you said, yes, I do.

It's still the accusation that you made. Back it up with something or let it go.
TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 12:25:23 PM
#109
I didn't say I was learning history from movies. I said I was using the month as an excuse to revisit a genre that I find entertaining. Everyone knows that you go to the library to learn and the theater to be entertained. But, hey. It's par the course for your overreaching accusations.

Are you done? Do you have anything else to say? You haven't sufficiently proven that I "hate minorities." It's a lot easier to throw out false accusations than it is to defend against them. Innocence doesn't have to be proven. Guilt has to be proven.

The charge was hatred and you haven't come up with one argument to support that. If you disagree with me on the demographic makeup of a historic film, that's one thing. You have every right to argue that audiences should be cool with any cast in any film. But don't accuse someone of racial hatred when they've brought several counterarguments and you haven't produced a single one beyond "Well, only a racist would complain about the cast of a movie..."
TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 12:11:22 PM
#106
If Beauty and the Beast, Mulan, and Spider-Man have roughly the same cast, that's a problem. No setting has a voice. They're all interchangeable. Period and setting become a backdrop and nothing more.

I'm not saying that you can't tell a version of Mulan where she leads a diverse team including a Native American lesbian, a Black man, a White man, and a Native American man against the enemy. But I'm saying don't cry racism if someone makes another version a later on that is more accurate to the historic setting. Don't block somebody from doing that film because it doesn't meet the quota. Don't tell them that they have to set the next version of Mulan in the 27th century so that everyone can be invited to the party.

If you think it's racist to not want literally every film to have a Captain Planet or Power Rangers cast, then your definition of racism is far too broad.
TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 12:03:17 PM
#105
LightningThief posted...
The only one lying is you, that or you're confused. Disney's Beauty and the Beast is literally not all about France. The story could take place in Quebec or Louisiana and the main plot of the story doesn't change. It was never about France.

You seem to be confused with a story being set in a specific location, and the story being actually about the where its set.

You said that hating minorities was the only reason anyone could have a problem with every film having a cast comprised of more than 50% underrepresented groups and you doubled down on it. With historic context being no excuse. And you doubled down on it.

I gave examples of how a Disney version of 18th century France could still have diversity and inclusion without the French comprising less than half of the cast of their own film. I conceded that, if the location were changed to a fictional setting, they could do whatever they pleased with the cast and it wouldn't matter. I've mentioned that my own writing includes diverse casts. None of that matters, apparently. You're grasping at straws and acting like you have a smoking gun. Some settings are different from others. Some casts should be different from others.

I've been using Black History Month as an excuse to watch blaxploitation films. These movies include White, Hispanic, and Asian characters from time to time. But 80% of the cast is going to be Black because, while fictional, they are categorically films about life and conflict in predominantly Black locations. If somebody remade Super Fly or Dolemite and decided that Black people should make up less than 50% of the movie, I wouldn't be pleased about that either. (Also, if I "hate minorities," why am I watching these movies anyway? Since you know what I'm *really* thinking, why don't you use your psychic powers to share with the rest of the board my lucky numbers, the subject matter of the book that I'm working on, and what I had for dinner last night?)

Disney's Beauty and the Beast isn't my racist safespace that I go to in order to get away from diversity. I haven't seen the movie in its entirety since 1994. I'm just using it as an example of a setting that would be predominantly Caucasian.
TopicTrue Lies was a 10/10 movie 30 years ago
FortuneCookie
02/08/24 1:12:51 AM
#20
Music_Rock_Cat posted...
Wasnt that like the last real Arnold movie back then?

Yeah. Everything after that was downhill.
TopicGOP Candidate burns Missouri Public Library books with Flamethrower
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:57:37 PM
#56
HylianFox posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d9321792.jpg

Simpsons once again predicting the future.
TopicWas dropping the atom bomb the correct thing to do?
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:56:02 PM
#47
No.

Next question.
TopicNow I'm conflicted on Trump.
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:55:20 PM
#51
Cocytus posted...
On the one hand he makes me laugh. On the other hand Biden forgave my student loans.


FolkenRawr posted...
According to your sig I am partially nekid

Between their post and their signature, I picture the kind of individual who says "post characters that are practically you" before posting a photo of Heath Ledger's Joker.

>_>
Topic"You know, Ben, it really is the Night of the Living Dead."
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:53:57 PM
#4
MorbidFaithless posted...
What are your thoughts on the ending? Apparently Romero didn't intend to have any theme or message about racism with what happens, but a lot of people interpret it that way.

I can see why people would interpret it that way. From what I've read, and it could be hearsay, Duane Jones wanted to insert commentary on race and George Romero did not - but later regretted that he hadn't.

Personally, I think it's better the way that it is. Ben was the first Black protagonist in a movie for which race was not an essential part of their character. It's the first time that a Black guy was just a guy. I wouldn't want to lose that.

The film still has some commentary with regards to the Vietnam War and possibly gun violence in general. It's perhaps a little too subtle for the film's own good. George Romero's name appears above an American flag in a graveyard and there's an American flag in the closet when Ben finds the rifle. The third film spells the antiwar message out for the audience by setting it in an army base and making the soldiers invariably evil. And, of course, the second film is rife with commentary on consumerism.

TopicDriving While Trans Now Illegal In Florida
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:38:22 PM
#114
LSGW_Zephyra posted...
This is supposed to be illegal. The government should have supremacy but... Until it gets solved in courts

I'd almost like to see Florida secede from the Union. Then we could reclaim the land and dictate terms to their State government. All people created equal -- Fact, not opinion.
Topic"You know, Ben, it really is the Night of the Living Dead."
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:35:27 PM
#1
That movie actually does have a title drop. At one point, Ben references the "flesh eaters" outside the house. Flesh Eaters was the original title the movie was released under, but they had to change it because it was already taken. I wonder if we would be calling ghouls/zombies "flesh eaters" today if that title had stuck.

It's a shame that Duane Jones wasn't in more movies. The character is very rough cut but, if you pay attention, you can tell that the actor is a more educated and articulate individual. It gives the character a unique aura about him. He's a very magnetic protagonist. Jones was predominantly a stage actor and taught acting as well.
TopicElon Musk reacts to Disney's inclusion standards.
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:22:09 PM
#102
RamenNoodles posted...
Elon Musk if you look over the years has become more and more starved for attention. I honestly think he constantly has bad takes now because it gets him tons of attention and he knows it.

The same is probably true for Trump and his combover. "No attention is bad attention."
TopicShould humorists feel pressure due to evolving standards of taste?
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:20:58 PM
#4
Kinda. It's really an issue by issue thing.

What people don't get is that "offensive humor" is a redundancy. Humor is defense mechanism for the things which offend our sensibilities.

TopicZOOTOPIA 2 is coming out in
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:17:44 PM
#11
I hope they have a female fox/wolf/dog this time. Predators are normally sexier than prey. Lola Bunny is a bit of an exception. Judy Hopps, at least for me, is not. She looks too much like a human with floppy ears; a short-haired human with floppy ears. And a cop too.

I'm not full ACAB, but it is definitely unsexy to be a part of a system that constantly preys upon minorities, immigrants, and other disenfranchised individuals.

Topicwhy was there such a strong sexual component of the brony phenomena
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:15:41 PM
#21
Puglia77 posted...
I watch it for the plot

Plot meaning the booty

I used to have a rule that I only allowed myself to fall for furry characters who were bipedal. One look at Rarity and I knew it was a matter of time before I broke that rule.

>_>
TopicIs sexual attraction to anime girls a sign of degeneracy?
FortuneCookie
02/07/24 11:14:17 PM
#18
That's part of the appeal for me, yes.
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